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alabama in pensacola florida and this rally comes four days before alabama special election. but it also comes as a new poll from pew shows president trump approval rating has hit a new low of 32%. 63% there disproving of the job president trump is doing. in a tweet this morning president trump offered up his loudest support of roy moore yet. first the president attacked the democrat running against roy moore and then ended with this full endorsement in all caps here, vote roy moore, the last three words at the end of the tweet. alex is with me live in pensacola, alex, that this means basically nearly in alabama, and this is a rally for roy moore. >> yeah, this is all but an official rally for roy moore. this is not so subtle wink at
the fact that he is down here ocean hally essentially to voice his support for roy moore on the election on tuesday. we are only about 20 minutes from the alabama here in pensacola. shares a tv market with mobile, alabama. now we know that roy moore will not be attending this rally. the campaign has told that 100% he will not be attending. i've asked them whether any members of the moore family or campaign will be attending, they said they are not sure. but you can imagine that trump will be at some point during the course of this campaign style rally be mentioning his support for moore. he has issued a full endorsement. and another tweet from the president this morning saying we cannot have a liberal like doug jones in the senate. that he needs the vote of roy moore to advance his agenda, whether it's for the military,
whether it's for the second amendment, whether it's for immigration. now, the closest link that has officially been established between this rally here in pensacola tonight and the white house is the fact that trump's daughter-in-law, laura trump, who is the wife of eric trump, the second son of donald trump, has put out a robo call encouraging supporters of the presidents in alabama to come here to this rally. the robo call said that ht rath rally is taking place nearby. but there was one person some five hours away who also got that robo call. so they are encouraging people to come here from far and wide to attend this rally here tonight in pensacola in florida 8:00 p.m. >> so pensacola tonight. mississippi tonight. we'll get into that in a moment
prominent people not attending. thanks for staying with me. new investigation more to this trump meeting that the president's son had said. initially remember the gathering was about adoptions they said. and donald trump junior who attended the june 20616 meeting at trump tower said once the meeting ended there was nothing else to it. >> there wasn't really follow up because nothing there to follow up. but in the end it was bait and switch what it was supposed to be about. so there is nothing there. >> nothing there. so later it came out that maybe there was a little more to it. the meeting was about getting dirt on president's opponent hillary clinton. now we are learning a little more there was a little more communication in a follow up to the meeting. so with that piece of it today, jessica snyder is with us now live. so jessica, what's the third piece of this conversation?
>> so we are learning now, brooke, there were follow up emails after that trump tower meeting in 2016. they were sent to a top trump aide and one of the russians who actually attended the meeting. so first off, one of those emails was sent to senior trump aide dan skavino, so rob gold sent this email, and then get donald trump to create a page on the russian social networking site called vk. and in that email gold stone said that, quote, don and paul were on board with the idea. of course that's a reference to then campaign chair paul manafort as well as donald trump junior. so a source tells cnn that gold stone had mentioned media post idea at the end of the meeting. continued to push it weeks that followed. but a cnn search we could not find any indication that the campaign ever set a page up.
then, brooke, there was another email, it was dated june 14th, 2016, that was five days after the trump tower meeting. in that email gold stone actually forwarded a cnn story on russia's hacking on dnc. he sent that to russia pop star. and also gold stone described the news of the hacks as quote early weird given what they had discussed at the trump tower meeting five days earlier. but one of the sources we talked about downplayed the interaction saying news of the dnc hack was only surprising because of the run up to the trump tower meeting the russian participants had promised information. that information, that dirt was never provided. but, brooke, all of these emails have come out now because they were raised in the closed door hearing that happened two days ago. donald trump junior though said he couldn't recall the
interactions mentioned. and importantly we know that rob goldstone, he's agreed to talk with congress, with both the house and senate intelligence panels, that could be as early as next week. so we have these emails a lot more information could be forthcoming when goldstone comes to the united states and goes before congress. >> jessica, thank you for the latest piece of this puzzle. let's talk to our guys here, ethics czar and watchdog group in washington. so gentlemen thanks for being with me on this friday. ambassador eisen let me begin with you, first we heard from, it's this pattern of i don't recall, right. and don junior says nothing to see here with regard to the trump tower meeting, it's all about adoptions. then it's dirt on hillary clinton. then apparently this bit maybe
we have this idea of getting trump on networking site for russians, russian americans. your response to that? >> well, brooke, thanks for having me back. and it's yet another example of the profound connections between russia and the trump campaign. and here what you have is follow up. and you have an assertion that don junior and paul manafort are supporting this. and an outreach to skavino. so that suggests there is much more to the meeting that we don't know about. don junior asserted the attorney-client privilege when he was talking to congress this week. and there is grounds that seems at least questionable. so there is some additional impediment there. then there is the other email,
the eerily weird email. so i think the ties are getting deeper and deeper the more we learn. >> what are you thinking? >> well, i agree with him about the eerily email. that could cut either way, particularly given the sort of set up for the meeting. but i would note the emails we are talking about, so far as we know to this point, didn't go to don junior. so you have goldstone who wasn't part of the campaign, as you put up in the graphic, he was portrayed as a low man. >> publicist. >> who kept pinging people in the campaign. but that's not the campaign. and what's not clear yet is whether they did anything in follow up. it may well be that what don junior said back in july is absolutely accurate, that is there is nothing to follow up on. i think the obvious way to find
this out is when goldstone gets under oath in front of the committee, and to the point you just heard about the privilege claim, it wasn't related to these emails, but i do think don junior will be back in front of that committee. because i don't think when all sides review the claim of attorney-client privilege related to the conversation he had with his father, and that may feel weird to people, gee, i can't talk to my dad, forget he was a candidate for president, feels strange to people, but you don't have a privilege unless you are a child meaning under 18, with a lawyer, when you are talking to your parent. if are you an adult talking to your parent in the presence of a lawyer, that's sharing information and waives the privilege. so i think that's coming back to the committee. >> yeah, mostly experts, that i talked to that yesterday on that said that doesn't totally fly. and i think you are right, we will learn so much more when
they hear more from don junior but also more from goldstone. let me move on because legal experts are also saying that the charges that have been filed in robert mueller's russia investigation show he is making progress. but since last week it was a week ago today, right, we were all over the breaking news, bombshell guilty plea from michael flynn and people coming forward under mining mueller in favoritism and attacking his personal integrity. so just a sampling now of the last 48 hours, if you turn on fox news. >> let's face it, what we are seeing here is a pattern and practice of mueller hiring known clinton and obama political insiders and boosters, supporters to undue a presidential election. that was the election of donald trump. >> robert mueller's partisan, hyper partisan attack team will
name names tonight and explain who these trump hating investigators are and why this entire witch hunt needs to be shut down immediately. mueller is compromised on this. so and sessions has recused himself from so much of this. so how does it work? only logical way to get to the answers for the american people is to a point a special second counsel. >> mueller is corrupt. senior fbi is corrupt. the system is corrupt. >> so that last voice there, that was former house speaker newt gingrich. >> he tweeted this back in may. let me read this and bring two gentlemen back in. he tweeted robert mueller is suburb choice to be special counsel, impeccable and honesty, media should now calm down. >> do you agree with this criticism? what's your take? >> let's start with the trigger point.
it was not flynn. flynn was not trigger. in recorreent days we have lear there is not just one but multiple participants that mueller has brought over from doj in this investigation that whose bias is reasonably questionable on objective basis. people who took questionable actions in hillary investigations are now on trump investigation. that was very unwise. at least from an appearance perspective. and last night we had on cnn paul was here, used exact same word newt just used, corrupt in describing ken star when he was in the bill clinton white house. i think, frankly, this sort of push back has not happened up until now, by and large, on the republican side, but now suddenly there has been a burst of data points that call into question, not just mueller, but the structure that he's put in place and the bias inherent in
that structure the people he's hired. that's where this attack is coming from. this is one of those examples of why it's important in the judiciary process to not only act with propriety, but to be above the appearance of impropriety and that's been sacrificed here. >> norm, your response, would you agree with ken or not at all? and as you answer, do you think there is any sort of potential here that president trump who has the ability to fire the special counsel here, do you think based upon everything we have seen on fox, and from some republicans, is he considering doing that? >> well, i have to respectfully disagree with my friend, ken. bob mueller is a republican. he was made fbi director by republican administration. not just newt gingrich but broad
bipartisan applause by mueller when he took this job and done it in ha objective way. there was an issue that arose as to one of the investigators. bob mueller did the right thing. he referred it to the ig. has to do with the man's text messages. a career fbi senior one and removed him from the investigation. what more sign of independence do you need than that? i've written extensively with the butcher a, so it's bipartisan, brooke, that all of these conflict claims is a make way. they go no where. so i believe it's a very independent, fair investigation. if you look at the charges you can see that. then in terms of the firing the right wing is trying to goad president trump into firing bob mueller because they know the exposure that the president has. now, i've just issued a report at crew, at my watchdog with
coauthors. it's not so easy for the president to fire mueller. that would be very complicated and very hard to do. i don't think the president is going to take the bait. so far he's been advised not to do it. and i think as long as ty cobb is there in the white house, he's cooperating. he believes it is a close question which way the obstruction will go. others may go down. until the president believes he's going to go down, i think mueller's job so far at least as of today is safe. that could change at any time. we have a mercurial president, but not so easy to fire the man. >> every day seems like an eternity. so who knows what happens between today and next twrfrida >> i think within the white house they believe only politically firing comey was what blew this all up. i don't think they'll do a
similar type mistake. >> a pleasure sir. eisen thank you so much for coming back to both of you. have wonderful weekends. we have a lot to talk about. coming up next civil rights civil rights museum in mississippi this weekend, the reason, because president trump is going to be there. also, strong words from former president barack obama invoking nazi germany as he warns about today's politics. also one thing he says what used to drive him nuts during his presidency. we have more on cnn coming back. ® lowers a1c, and now reduces cardiovascular risk. victoza® lowers my a1c and blood sugar better than the leading branded pill. (avo) and for people with type 2 diabetes
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you are back watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. two civil rights legend are boycotting the opening of the museum this weekend. why? because president trump is going to be there. when they got word president trump had accepted the information, they leasreleased statement. quote, president trump disparaging comments about women, the disabled, and countless others that have given their all for mississippi to be a better place. cnn contributor is with us today and cnn political political coms
here as well. >> is there anyone in public life who deserves to have us trust their judgment about what is right and wrong, it has to be congressman john lewis. this is a history museum and we have to remember our history. this is the man started the sit in movement in 1960. one of the original 13 freedom riders. when folks marched across the bridge and met with opposition of police officers, it was john lewis who had his skull fractured in the march. and didn't stop there. he did this for decades. he's saying, listen, something that i don't feel is right about standing next to ha president who i believe is destructive on civil rights. and if the man is saying that, i think we deserve to not question
john lewis but what he thinks about president trump that makes him feel that way. >> how do you feel? >> i think it's ha missed opportunity. i'll quote the chairman in tennessee who said if your job is to get people to understand a different perspective, and you think tt person needs a different perspective is the president and he's willing to be in the same room with you and listen to your speech, you take that opportunity to bring people together, not to divide them. i unfortunately i think representative lewis looked at this as a political opportunity to kind of make it do a stunt against donald trump. and that's personal. that doesn't help with the conversation on civil rights or racism or anything else in this country. bottom line is the president is the most powerful man in the world. and if you feel like his viewpoint needs to change, why would you not take an opportunity where he's going to be sitting next to you to use
your influence, your history, your credibility, your story to influence the president of the united states of america. and there are a lot of people, including the aclu, local chapters, who have both come out and said they think it's appropriate for the president to be there and take this opportunity to not boycott but to get him to try to look at your perspective. it divides people. which doesn't bring it together. which i thought was entire purpose of the museum. >> josh, he makes a point. listen, i'm from georgia, the man is a legend. but the notion that he's not showing up, you are right, he wrote history, right. but is he missing the chance to stand up, confront racism, talk to the president? >> i don't think so. one, in these events and i've been to many presidential events before, they often have a way to
make the president hear what he wants to hear, and get him out of the room before he has to hear anything else. so no guarantee president trump would be around to hear a critique from john lewis. but you also have to remember when john louis shows up for something, so he would be lending his credibility to the political move of president trump. how can you say you are for civil rights one day at a museum opening in mississippi, and the next day support someone like roy moore one state over in alabama, accused of assaulting women, except for slavery that was a time when america was great back then. donald trump is showing with his actions he's opposed to civil rights and lewis won't stand next to it. >> that's where i was going to next. how do you square that? the man is in pensacola, a stone
throw away, annie sen hallyd es rally for roy moore. and asked a question of roy moore asking him when was the last time america being great, and roy moore acknowledged history of racial divisions, and i'm quoting him, i think it was great at the time when families were united even though we had slavery, they cared for one another. our families were strong. our country had a direction. this is a man that the president is supporting. and not even 24 hours later the president will be in mississippi, you know, at the civil rights museum opening. how do you square the two? >> i'll take your premise and say it that way. if that's how you see the president and roy moore, why wouldn't you take an opportunity to talk to the president of the united states of america on stage about your perspective and your view point. i've said this i'm not a supporter of roy moore. i don't think he should be in the senate.
that's my personal opinion on this. many voters in alabama say he doesn't represent my values, but he represents my interests. tan that's why he's probably going to win this election. but the bottom line is go back to congressman here. if you say that the president's viewpoint needs to change and you use what you just said as the example, how do you change that man by not showing up, not talking to him, not engaging him, but you criticize him? i mean, criticism doesn't bring people together. it doesn't bring people to your way of life or your perspective. the best conversations i've ever had with people that i disagree with are sitting down face-to-face, and then saying just look at it from my perspective or understand my life from my perspective. this was an opportunity for congressman lewis to do that. and unfortunately he missed the boat for i think political points that he thought i could score against donald trump and look at me standing up to him and getting to imply that he's a
racist and people will love me for it. that doesn't bring me together. >> that's a good point and fair point. however, when you sit down with those folks you disagree with, if you really want to make change, you do so in private yach. you don't do so when the cameras are out there. >> civil rights museum opening is good place to start. >> i'm sure john lewis would sit down privately. >> take place behind the stage. you have no idea what conversations might take before that event or after that event or even at the event. >> i've been to many of them. >> so have i. >> and they shave a way of avoiding those conversations. i'm not going to associate myself with something that is morally problematic. and you know what if he got beat over the head in alabama, he has the credibility for him to say that and us to believe him.
>> let's take a minute to talk about. please stick around. former president obama says a stark warning. then also breaking news involving the alabama senate candidate, speaking of, a woman, one of the woman who accused roy moore of sexual assault when she was 16, she spoke handout about remarks written by roy moore in her high school year book. is she still standing by that claim? we'll hear from her coming up.
former president barack obama is issuing a stark warning about today's politics. speaking before the economic club of chicago referenced nazi germany, to emphasis of becoming complacent and dis engaged. cnn obtained the video of his remarks. >> we don't have to tell people what they should do. but i wouldn't under estimate the very simple act of being engaged, paying attention, and speaking out. and typically that's what it comes down to in a democracy. and i do think because we have been so wealthy and so successful, that we get
complacent and assume that things continue the way they have been just automatically. and they don't. you have to tend to this garden of democracy, otherwise things can fall apart fairly quickly. and we have seen societies where that happens. right. now presumably there was a ball room here in vienna in the late 1920s or 30s that looked pretty sophisticated with the music and art and literature and science that was emerging, it would continue in perpetuity. and then 60 million people died.
an entire world was plunged into chaos. so you have to pay attention. and vote. [ applause ] >> wow, obama did not name president trump directly, critics are already calling this availed attack against his successor. ben, when you first heard that audio, what were you thinking? >> i think it was sad that the former president of the united states of america would go to the point of somehow fear monger people saying our democracy is in bad shape just because he doesn't agree with the political opinions of donald trump. that the next things that's going to happen you'll have 60 million dead people. the holocaust was a horrific thing in history that let's hope will never come close to being matched anywhere in the world. but for political purposes to then use it to your advantageous
because you don't like who is in the oval office, i think is probably a low point, i think, in barack obama's career. i've never heard him say something like this or go to this level. this is internet conspiracy type crazy talk and it's unfortunate that it came from barack obama, especially knowing just how horrific the holocaust was. you don't make comparisons ever especially for a political point to attack someone politically because you don't like them or their policies. that's sad and sick. >> the conservative media strg afield day with this. jumping to headlines like obama compares trump to hitler. joshua, did he think this through? >> there are some folks being political here and it certainly wasn't president obama. you must have watched a different video. because i saw a thoughtful
statement from a states man who loves his countsry says we have to keep watch. the reality those things did happen less than 100 years ago in this very world. and we need to make sure they never happen again. and, you know what, we do have certain threats to our democracy right now. just was it last week or a week before the president of the united states is using his twitter platform to retweet and share a false video from the right wing group in the u.k. back in the united states the president is looking at a march in charlottesville good people on both sides. there is a reason to be worried. he didn't speak to president trump. but he's saying we have to keep watch. >> it was very clear he was implying this was towards the current administration. you are a smart guy. let's not act like that wasn't directed towards donald trump. own it. okay. if barack obama is going to say
this, and it's go go to represent the democratic party, at least be honest enough it's clear he was talking about the current administration and donald trump and trying to make a comparison. that's just disingenuous to imply someone wasn't talking about this administration. it's clear he was. >> yeah, sure. >> you said these were thoughtful words and well planned out by barack obama. do you think he was being vague and not talking about this administration? >> come on. >> i think it's fascinating from our friends on the other side that we start using words like disingenuous and questioning people's motives right away. the president was talking about history. >> who was he talking about here? >> if i could finish. >> if you wouldn't mind letting me finish. >> i'll let you finish. but tell me who he was talking to then if you said he wasn't towards donald trump. >> he was leaving it up to
americans like you and i to reach our conclusions. and i'm concluding that donald trump through his actions retweeting a right wing fascist in the u.k. that are allies, i'm concluding these are threats to our democracy that occurring in this country today. and that's something that i'm concerned about. the president is not going to weigh into partisan but it's up to us to be watchful. >> you just gave three examples. >> i can give more. >> connecting the caution, everyone pay attention that barack obama just made directly to donald trump, but then you say two sentences earlier that this was not directed towards donald trump and the administration. >> because i'm not the president of the united states. >> so you are connecting it but no one else should. got it. >> no, you can. i can. but he wasn't. i can as a citizen of this country listen to the
president's words and mick my own conclusions. you've made conclusions as well. >> so your conclusion is it's against donald trump but it wasn't when barack obama said it. >> i've been listening. that's basically my job. and i hear ben saying it was clearly donald trump referencing donald trump. and joshua saying it's up to the american people to be the ones to decide who they think president obama the inference was about. needless to say, thanks for being on. it was a healthy discussion. so i appreciate the extra time. thanks so much. ben and joshua. thank you. coming up next here, california, the chilling images from the fires there. horses scrambling to escape the flames. look at that. we'll talk to one man who already lost one of his thoroughbreds and trying to save the others. back in a moment.
it just won't stop. now six wildfires burning in southern california. these two new fires, the lilac is in san diego county, and liberty just north of there. so together all six account for 160,000 acres of scorched earth. there is some good news. crews are starting to make progress on containing the massive infernos in l.a. and ventura counties. but some of the thoroughbred seemed hopeless. set free from their barns to escape. trainers say they report hearing them scream as they race away. lost one. and little red feather racing
club. billy, i'm so sorry for you, these are absolutely gorgeous creatures. how close have your horses come to these flames? >> thank you, first of all for having me on. before i get started i want to talk closely, so many heros down here that rescued some of these horses. nearby farms and training centers. and it's really amazing the out pouring of support and volunteers that have driven down to del mar racetrack where many of the horses are. i heard last night or this morning over 800 horses down there. some race horses. some riding horses and pleasure horses and those people, from the bottom of my heart, and anybody who is in our industry, just thank you. >> billy. >> i wasn't at san luis ray last night. my trainer phil was there and he used the term apocalyptic.
i'm sure everyone has seen the footage and horses running wild and did their best, but unfortunately there were casualties, it's just a nightmare. it's not funny, but you never really how dangerous and serious it is until it hits home. and our industry has come together. and it's just been amazing. >> it is emotional for you. and understand bly so. can we just close this out. i love how you thanked all the wonderful people helping you out. and of course del mar racetrack huge thanks to them. tell me why these beautiful animals are so special to you. >> you know, personally i grew up with them. and they are my passion. and we have at little red feather so many incredible partners. we ran a partnership. so we have over five or six
hundred partners that are a part of these majestic animals. they bring so much joy to us. and they do, you know, they just do everything in their power to provide thrill and excitement and they are so beautiful, it's just a shame what has happened here. i don't really understand it. >> just seeing them running, seeing them running from the flames. it is heartbreaking. billy koch thank you so much for spending a couple minutes with me. we wish you the very best, the communities, the people, the animals, everyone, and everything matters, just so much. >> i really appreciate you having me on. i'm sorry i got emotional. you are always a help. if there are volunteers who want to go to del mar racetrack, there are tons of horses there that need water and just to be moved. we just found seven horses nearby farm that we hauled to del mar. and you can obviously give lfr
is our personal charity. you can also get another charity. >> we'll get the information put out there. i promise you. we'll put it on my twitter. del mar racetrack. billy, thank you. let's stay in touch with you and your horses. i appreciate you very much calling in from southern california. coming up though next we have to talk about the president. president trump rallying just 25 miles from the alabama border tonight. and just four days before alabama special election. this is happening as new poll is in showing the president's approval rating hitting a new low. we have a live report coming up. ♪ this holiday, the real gift isn't what's inside the box. it's what's inside the person who opens it. ♪
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ball all the way to philly. they will come by any minute. i'll hop in and take that game ball over to the field. and what happens when i say go army. >> go army. >> it's going to be incredible game. the 118th edition of the army navy game right here in philly is right here 3:00 p.m. eastern. >> i know sailors that would take issue with this crowd. i love this game. thanks to the you and the crowd. back in just a moment. because there are options. like an "unjection™". xeljanz xr. a once daily pill for adults with moderate to severe ra for whom methotrexate did not work well. xeljanz xr can reduce pain, swelling and further joint damage, even without methotrexate. xeljanz xr can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections, lymphoma and other cancers have happened. don't start xeljanz xr if you have an infection. tears in the stomach or intestines,
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