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east coast we're live with new developments, big day for president trump tomorrow, he's going to sign the sweeping tax cut bill a big victory for him on the heels of embarrassing defeat in alabama just ten days ago now will be republicans who passed the tax bill clearly on president's side or steve bannon who has the president's trust but pushed his support behind trump's candidacy. also tonight united nations voted against president trump decision to recognize jerusalem as israel's capital. >> we will remember when so many countries come calling on us as they so often do to pay even more and use our influence to
their benefit. >> i want to bring in our analysts and c flrnn political commentator, i hope i can make it through this how you guys doing. >> merry christmas don. >> thanks very much. president trump celebrating first major victory on tax reform and you say the establishment is up and steve bannon is down talk about that, josh. >> if you look at the last couple weeks, mitch mcconnell has finally pushed through a major legislative achievement and shrewdly gave a lot of credit to president trump. this is the sort of thing that will raise donald trump and mitch mcconnell and then you have alabama propping up roy moore's candidacy and helped to
convince the president to endorse roy moore and they were humiliating when moore was beaten by a democrat. trump's not fixed with princi e principles or loyal to his advisors he tends to side with whoever is winning right now mitch mcconnell is winning and so if stands moving forward trump will be more inclined to listen to him. >> yeah. jason, a new report says steve bannon has told people he's grown disillusioned for donald trump's governing style blaming his children for pushing the bad decisions saying he has lost a step like an 11-year-old child what do you think of this. >> that's giving him a lot of credit i wouldn't have gone to nine. we're talking as if all these republicans are not going to
just end with steve bannon here's what will work donald trump will say something he shouldn't say and then call steve bannon and do whatever steve bannon tells him to do because steve bannon's going to flatter him, he's going to do it and then in congress people like mitch mcconnell are going to act like they're against steve bannon because he's crazy and then they're going to get freaked out about losing primaries so they will end up being with steve bannon anyone. everybody in the picture except congress will be swept out of washington except steve bannon and you will have democratic coming in beginning of 2019 that's when something will finally get done for the american people. >> why do you say the president trump will follow whoever talks to last. >> that's how it works whoever is in his ear that's who he goes with. particularly if they said something nice. i did the dishes tonight he's probably watching if i give him
credit for it maybe he will never hate tweet me i don't know. that's how he works. they create briefing documents with his name in it so he will pay attention to what's going on in north korea so they had complete control of the government then the ire year and all they have done is pass a tax bill that the majority the country doesn't like they passed not for the american people i think it's loosing for the country it's unfortunate for all of us. >> go ahead alice. >> to jason's point the majority of people in this country don't like anything that goes on in washington so no surprise they're not excited about this tax reform plan because they doesn't know what it means for them yet. i do believe it will mean money in their pockets. >> they don't believe lawmakers.
>> exactly but i do believe what this is going to mean we've said the facts before the average american family this will mean about $2,000 for them by the end of tyear and that's a lot of money for many families. once they start seeing the benefits of this will start coming around. i think the democrats need to be careful trying to push this as something really bad and everyone doesn't like it because once this starts paying off for the american people they're going to have a tough time come the mid-term elections. what the president has learned was yes he and bannon are going to be close allies but also learned that he needs to work with the quote establishment g.o.p. if he wants to get things done and they have learned doing things the bannon way sticking heels in and everyone holding ground doesn't always work, it didn't work with health care but working across the aisle and everyone giving and compromising is how you get things done.
>> okay i have noenanother ques for. any of the democrats want to respond. >> sure about the taxes, sure. here's the thing rn, don, you h to use up any trust that the american people had in you so badly to get to the point you can't actually sell a tax cut and the reason they can't sell a tax cut because it's not the american people don't know what's in it's because the american people do know what's in it and they say we see what you're trying to do, to throw a little bit our way and give a massive amount to the richest people in the country. that's what is happening. the american people see right through then the ire thing. that's why it is as unpopular as it is. >> democrats lost hundreds of seats once obamacare came into
eerve effect so they're not the high ground when it comes to speaking truth in washington, d.c. i think let this play out and let the people see how this benefits them and let's talk at the end of 2018. >> alice, a minute ago you said the people didn't know what's in it but once they found out they will like it but you turn it around and compare what i'm saying to obamacare my point is, one minute the republicans are claiming that that's a terrible way to defend obamacare the next minute they're saying that's what is going to happen on the tax cut. the american people see through this not because donald trump is unpopular or republicans in congress are unpopular they see right through it because giving massive tax cuts to rich people and nowhere near the rest of the country has never been popular. a really popular president in
congress couldn't pull that off either because it's a bad idea, and people don't like it. >> josh you can get in here. >> i think they're both right. right now public opinion polls show by in large american people side with jason on this. they believe 60%, 70% of them is a giveaway to the very rich and corporations. i think alice also has a point if this bill turns out to be as good for middle class families as said then maybe public opinion will change i will add most independent analysis suggest most effects go to the wealthy and we're probably not going to see a pronounced effect for middle class voters so going forward if republicans can't change the story around this bill, change the public perception and convince people it really is for the middle class than bannon amitch mcconnell and trump will have big problem next year.
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work about the tax bill she said this today that didn't make a lot of sense. >> i am looking forward to travel in april whether people see the effects of this in their paychecks next year. >> but when they file in april it is for 2017 it won't be effected by tax reform a simple fact to screw up as a senior advisor. >> i've been on a round table with her and she's extremely are knowledgeable specifically in regard to the child tax care credit and was instrumental in this. she was referring it to this will be the last time to do it the old way a reminder why it will be so much better in 2018 i
take her at her word that's what she was referring to. but look don't be mistaken she's very well spoken and understands what the tax reform package is all about. >> she said it's like being on a post card that's not exactly true is it. >> got to be a real big post card. i'm not going to criticize ivanka trump i highly doubt her dad even understands it very well. the president of the united states doesn't have understanding beyond i won something in congress and save him a lot of money which would make him one of the only people in the country that knows about that because he won't release his taxes in the long run i'm not going to go after her for knowing what the president probably doesn't know. >> you said tax reform when it takes effect will make the blue
wave in 2018 even bigger. how so. >> look i'm not sure, you talking to me? i don't think that was me but i will talk about it. >> josh, did you say that. >> no. >> i thought it was jason who said that. >> no but look i'll save jason and take the baton. if rank and file voters wake up to the fact most tax benefits aren't going to them if they get their paychecks and aren't larger will increase voter antipathy between trump and republican we are seeing it across new jersey and alabama there's a lot of anger there's stories in the wash times and the post and republico on the way in, the republicans in the white house are alarmed to the fact that a lot of voters especially women supporter votes
are plummeting. i don't think there's a ton of evidence in the bill they're going to. i don't think ivanka trump going out delivering misinformation when tax reform will help that effort. >> jason i'm told it was you. you probably don't remember. >> it sounds like me. >> here's why it's the case. >> the reason it's the case is because folks are wide awake, they see what's going on and recognize president trump and other folks, republicans in congress can call this tax reform as often as they want but people know it's not reforming anything. it's giving a massive tax cut to the wealthiest people in the country as a pay off to their donors who helped them get elected that's why now they're starting to talk about ed care and social security and going after that because they know
they spent a bunch of money of tax dollars sending a vast majority of it to the richest people in the country and they got to pay for it somehow and will try to did that by making the disabled and elderly pay for it. the american people think it's a bad idea and i agree with them. >> those on the left are so obsessed with what this means with regard to reducing the corporate tax rate -- if they would stop obsessing and focus on who will benefit is the middle income americans and the ben 23efits it will mean for th is where the focus needs to be. same time if this doesn't pan out or work like i hope it will yes this is going to be very devastating to the g.o.p. come midterm elections and will be a tremendous impact and something
that the democrats will certainly capitalize on but i think it will be good and productive. >> his approval rating right now is in the low 30s. that's not something that any person running for office really wants to campaign along with. and especially with this tax reform package if it's not good and president's approval rating stays where it is that's not something you want to campaign on. in my view i think the president is best served to do private fundraisers, work with donors behind the scenes and let the kaech canadia candidates to push their message to get elected and let this tax reform package help to boost the
sails during the elections however we know the president loves the roar of the rallies and he does want to get out there. if the poll numbers increase get out the more the merrier but as it stands right now not something candidates need when trying to make their case with voters. >> this last minute deal seems to be a skinny measure, government only funded until january 19th a couple weeks away, it includes a short-term extension to the surveillance plan and extend children's health care short-term insurance are you happy with this scale at all. >> no and i don't hi the american people are happy with this massive drama because the republicans won't actually do the things they should be doing,
won't look out for dreamers, the idea we will put off taking care of kids and making sure they have health insurance until the last second like it's a term paper it's embarrassing. it's fascinating to me that president trump seem to think they will blame whatever party is responsible for making it happen he was like i alone will fix everything and they prove to be completely incompetent and think they will get away with blaming someone else foreit but they've been doing it all year. american people won't give them the benefit of the doubt on that, they shouldn't. >> thank you very much. we'll talk more about president trump recognizing jerusalem as the capital of israel. l .
an intensity international rebuke of the trump's administration decision to recognize jerusalem as israel's capital. so here's a screen shot of the u.n.'s final vote 128 countries voted in favor of the resolution. 35 countries abstained. only 9 countries voted against it. these are very dramatic results other than israel our biggest ally, either voted against the u.s. or didn't vote at all. are you surprised? >> it is a stunning rebuke started on monday when the u.s. stood absolutely alone on this. now today they did get some more support.
i mean there were people that voted against this that we weren't sure they would. there were more abstentions than we thought we would see. there were rumblings that canada and australia would abstain although those countries that abstained will not move their embassies to jerusalem so the u.s. was not completely alone they did have support even if just in the form of abstention, it is a big deal. when you think about it there was another vote in the u.n. not long ago rebuking the u.s. for still have an embargo on cuba that vote was even bigger that was the u.s. and israel alone and 191 countries against. but it didn't get the attention this did. that's because this is israel and jerusalem and a stunning change and also because of all of the rhetoric we've been hearing coming from the u.s. including language that sounded kind of threatening and then
turned into a threat, a threat of removing fundsing from the u.n. and from countries that don't go along. >> kim, does this say anything about our allies and how other countries view the president or the u.s., are we losing our credibility? >> this is making countries that had stood with us make a choice based on principle in front of their own people and in some cases some have chosen to vote against the united states despite the threat of losing funding, that could force them into the influence of russia, china, would-be super powers that are trying to vie with the united states for global influence. s the other thing it could do if the u.s. has made these threats and don't follow through than we are, as we've been accused of being a paper tiger who makes threats but doesn't make good on them. the problem is the u.s. is going to be facing some situations like in the next six months
perhaps a north korea that truly does have a ballistic missile that they can put a nuclear weapon that reaches the united states where the u.s. will need consensus with the united nation nations and have squandered a lot of that good will today. >> this is nikki haley. >> the united states will remember this day for which it was singled out for attack for the very act of exercising our right as a sovereign nation we'll remember it when we are called upon to once again make the world's largest contribution to the united nations and we will remember when so many kunitz kuni countries come calling on us
>> so is it appropriate for the president and u.s. ambassador haley to issue threats like this or is this exactly what president trump's base wants to hear. >> it's not sur prizing considering trhetoric we've bee hearing, to try to cut the funding up to 50% was one of the goals, you see not much desire in congress to do anything of that sort and when they pass spending bills and congress is controlled by republicans you want to keep that funding at obama era levels and in many cases raise that funding even higher. there's plenty of criticism it had is not the time to be making threats like this because as kim alluded it to there's a lot going on in the world, major humidity cris
major humanitarian crisis. so the u.n. needs partners in a lot of the major problems it has been facing and will face around the world. is it realistic this is going to happen? many we talk to say no. when you look at how much the u.s. pays for the u.n. the u.s. alone pays for more than 20% of the u.n.'s total budget. the u.s. alone pays for nearly a third of all u.n. peacekeeping many see that as absolutely necessary but i think it is realistic down the road some of that will get cut back. >> former cia director tweeted this out today --
those are strong words, what's your reaction? >> that was had is second tweet on twitter. he's new to twitter today. what the former director is saying reflects a lot of intelligence officer's opinions on how this president is messaging the wider world. what they're worried about is that it is going to play into anti-american narratives, whether it's a russian narrative about the u.s. or extremist that is trying to get followers to a militant group saying they are bullies and don't want to listen to the rest of the world. it's their way or the highway and they worry it will ultimately damage not just u.s. securities in terms of feeding terrorists groups but it also makes it harder for allies to work with us. you see a number of arab leaders have cancelled meetings with the vice president and had to call
off a whole leg of his middle east tours. a number of christian leaders, even the head of egypt's university cancelled meetings guys him, that's a single that these countries going forward to fight extremism will fight hard on some of the decisions out of washington. >> what do you think of this. >> party time. i think maybe the dress code should be no regrets or you're in the right club. or you know, maybe them jealous or some dress code make them wish you were with us. it's interesting in fact it's sort at the u.n. who sent us this invitation added think of this as just a first symbolish
step the united states taking note who supports us who doesn't. so starting out with a party thanking the people who either voted against or abstained or didn't vote at all a little reception to be held on january 3rd, welcoming those people and thanking them as she put it for friendship. kind of interesting. they're seeing this as they put it symbolic first step. >> thank you both i appreciate it. when we come back an incredible story about one adopted family two babies and race in america, you don't want to miss this. in, we have a short amount of time to get our patient to the hospital with good results. we call that, the golden hour. evaluating patients remotely, is where i think we have a potential to make a difference. we would save a lot of lives if we could bring the doctor to the patient.
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white parents their separate hearts and meeting as adults here's the report. >> it was a bad day. was a bad day for me. >> a searing decision that ripped through the sanburg family. steven sanburg was just eight adopted by loving parents in the suburb of chicago, deerfield his parents wanted to adopt again, a baby girl in 1962 arrived at their home. lynn sandburg is the father. >> do you remember the first moment you saw this little girl. >> yes. >> what did you think. >> absolutely dumb founded didn't know what to think. the baby was black. >> what happened after the shock. the initial shock faded? for you? >> this isn't going to happen. you have to know what was going on in the -- in our town at the time. >> the civil rights movement the
country still deeply segregated and in the all white suburb pledging to bring black family foz the subdivision near the san burg home. later would march in selma to montgomery and now gazed at the african-american she named rebecca they called her becky. >> she wanted to keep the baby there was never a question. these were not the timings to bring a black child into that atmosphere. i felt that i had to make a tough decision and that's, the decision i made. it was heart-wrenching. it really was. remember sitting on the step, my mom. took away got my baby sister. and she had gone.
i didn't know why. i didn't talk to anybody about it. it was not something that i wanted to bring up. ever. >> why? >> because it hurt. >> a few months later the sanburg's adopted this girl, amy. they eventually divorced but the decision they made about their first daughter haunted manager she wrote about the girl for years in her diary. these words more potent, the loss of rebecca i will never forget if there is a god she was in a good and loving home. she was adopt bid a black family in chicago grew up in that loving home marge imagine. amy grew up to by a artist and they tracked each other down and led to this meeting. >> i was relieved when she told me about her what happened to
her and her upbringing and thanked me actually. >> she thanked you? >> yes. for doing what i did. she felt it would have been a bad thing for her to have been brought up in that neighborhood. >> do you feel better about what happened. >> i feel better but i still would have rather have had my sister. >> cnn la jolla, california. >> wow when we come back we're going to talk to them. goent anywhere. twogether, ay great things come in two's. don't go anywhere. right now when you get an unlimited family plan, netflix is included. wow t-mobile covers your netflix subscription, so you can catch the hottest new movies and shows all year long on us. amazing and it's your last chance to buy any of these hot new samsung galaxy phones and get a 2nd one free. that's one samsung for you and one to gift. just in time to finish off your list. t-mobile...holiday twogether.
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it weren't for me being who i am she wouldn't have will the life she had. so we're connected by the spirit. >> did you ever feel amy like there was something out there missing, tugging at your heart that said i got to figure this out? >> yeah i mean, i think every adoptee feels that way just from having been abandoned at birth but also once i knew about my parents child before me in the back of my head there was always a voice saying i need to find that person. >> yeah. how did you find out? >> i was about nine years old and my brothers were playing football in the backyard and i came out, i was a tom boy, i was wearing a football jerusalemry and one of my brothers said, you know, girls doesn't wear football jerseys, why don't you
dress like a real girl like our other sister. i could just tell by the way our other brother looked at him something untake-backable had been said and i ran inside and asked my mom and she said to me listen carefully because i'm only going to tell you this story once and she only told me the story once. >> so the story again to remind viewers that the family wanted to adopt a child when the baby was arrived the baby was black and they weren't expecting a black baby they lived in an all-white neighborhood and sent the baby back and eventually got amy so after treyvon martin and the divisiveness in the kunitz motivated you to find angel. >> yeah i started watching the daily news, stories about police
misconduct how blacks were being treated in our criminal justice system and i started getting angry honestly, it wasn't like i didn't know that these things were happening but it just became so prevalent and then sandra blaine was i think the straw for me. because i linked it to rebecca in my head, a woman. and i wanted to know as my mother wondered in her diary whether or not angel was okay. >> yeah. rebecca is the name your family gave angel you thought it was rebecca then. >> but angel you were adopt bid a black family after amy's family sent you back, tell me about your upbringing it was a comfortable, loving family? you lived near each other right? >> well i grew up in chicago. >> okay. >> i went to school in hyde
park. amy was in deerfield so we weren't close together but i went to school in hyde park and we had a really good up bringing. my parents were business owners. we had a summer home in union pier, michigan and i had a very diverse lifestyle. the people in my school and my parents really loved me and i was raised by an entire community of aunts and uncles, but nobody blood. so my understanding of family, you know, it from the very beginning was much deeper than blood. >> and then, after that, as you became an adult, you fell on some hard times, right? you had some trouble. >> i did. i did. >> but you pulled yourself back together and became reacquainted with your children? >> absolutely. >> do you think race had anything to do that or just
growing up -- >> just growing up living in america. i think this story has no color. the face of it could be anyone, especially my hardships. i like to think it has nothing to do with race, however i'm a little smarter than that, and i do understand his decision was about race but my life has not been racially motivated, shall i say. >> amy, you grew up in a wealthy white family, grew up with the nice things, went to good schools you also had problems as well. are the stereo typical upbringings of race not what they've seem? >> it changes all of our assumptions of white privilege and black hard ship. i didn't have it easy growing up as a child. it wasn't a horrible childhood but it was at times difficult,
not just because of the divorce but because of some other unfortunate things that happened during my childhood. and honestly, i told angel this, i'm happy she didn't go through what i had to go through. >> a couple years ago, angel, you met amy's dad, the man that didn't want to adopt you and sent you back. you thanked him and told him it was the right thing. why did you think it was the right thing for a white family to do back then? >> because of the life i ended up living i know i'm exactly where i'm supposed to be. i always felt wanted within the family. amy was speaking of adoptees feeling a sense of abandonment, and i never felt that. i always felt a sense of love. i was always surrounded by love. so i think that has a lot to do
with it. >> the two of you have thought a lot about race and how it can lead you on different paths in your life. what have each of you learned from each other? first from amy? >> as i said we're quick to make assumptions. i think it's in our society we're so polarized not just by race but my politics, religion. and i think if we were to stop and take the time to do the hard work, it's easy to look at things in black and white, pardon the pun, it's so easy. but it's so difficult to stop and look at the nuances and look at the things we have in common as opposed to the things that are different about us. i've really evolved through this whole process myself and i consider myself a progressive and somebody that's open minded and through this process i
discovered i have a lot of growing yet to do and i'm thankful for having lived through this, and continue to live through this. >> angel? >> what i've learned from this is the oneness. that we're all one. i never new the sandbergs existed until two years ago. and when i met amy or when amy found me first, i was totally overwhelmed that someone would come looking for me because i had been looking for -- you know, in my self-discovery i had been looking for a link to my own family, still am. so i've always felt just a great joy for amy. and i've learned that, you know, just stay open. stay open. you never know what life is going to bring you, but it's always going to be something good. >> what a good note to end on. thank you both. i have to say, amy wrote and
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