tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN January 2, 2018 6:00pm-7:00pm PST
his and my button works. sara murray is at the white house. >> we haven't heard from the white house on this, but remember, this is a tweet from the president. it is essentially an official stately from the white house and it marks a change in rhetoric. remember, this is a president who has decided he's going to push the envelope when it comes to kim jong-un. he's not going to shy away from comparing the size and effectiveness of buttons in this case. but also from personal insults in the past. remember when the prosecute was abroad on his asia trip. he tweeted why would kim jong-un insult my by calling me old when i would never call him short and fat? not exactly the kind of diplomacy we're used to seeing but perhaps not a surprise from a president who billed himself in the campaign as someone who is going to be unpredictable. i think that's certainly what we've seen. >> it is certainly a ratcheting
up of the rhetoric when it comes to north korea. >> reporter: especially when you consider what we heard from secretary of state rex tillerson. we heard that the u.s. would be willing to come to the table and have conversations with north korea, and we've heard them say they're willing to have talks with south korea. but the president kr contradicted tillerson saying now is not the time for this. when you look at rhetoric like this, it doesn't look like the u.s. and north korea will be cottage together for one-on-one talks anytime soon. this is coming from the president on his twitter feed. it'll be interesting to see how the people who are in charge of our diplomacy are grappling with this tonight and the days that come. >> joining us is retired army lieutenant generally mark hurtling a hurtling. general, you conducted military exercises in the korean peninsula. what do you make of this tweet
tonight? >> anderson, i'd suggest that it's not good to address complex international engagement issues on twitter. diplomacy is not meant to be done on that kind of a device. especially when you're talking about posing the world's most powerful man, president trump, the leader of the free world, with a guy who's really a third-rate dictator. you're putting them on an even keel and allowing them to be seen by the entire world going at this schoolyard bullying fight. having conducted exercises on the korean peninsula, if this comes to a catastrophic war, or some type of conflict, it's going to be like nothing we've ever seen before, especially if it's some type of nuclear exchange, which is what's been in these tweets. so i don't see any of this as contributing to a diplomatic solution or some kind of peaceful solution to what's going on on the korean peninsula. and that's my primary objective
as a soldier. >> many of the president's supporters will say this is a sign of strength by the president who doesn't use the kind of galactdiplomatic langua that's been used in the past. general hurtling is saying essentially this is president trump lowering himself to the level of kim jong-un and sort of getting into this war of words on the same level. >> frankly what i saw the tweet tonight i was pretty shocked. as a national security professional that has dealt with north korea for many years, i personally just was aagaas at what was said on twitter. the general is right. the chances for miscalculation right now on the korean peninsula are very, very high. i think trump's tweet is not very helpful. especially on the heels of the news on potential south korean diplomacy.
it could also potentially goad kim jong-un into additional prospective action. >> do you think this was a reaction to have some sort of talks? obviously the language south korea's been using vis-a-vis north korea is much less bellicose than the language of the u.s. >> it could be a reaction, which is highly problematic. the most important thing the presumption should be doing right now is standing by our south korean ally in their efforts on diplomacy. it's very important that the united states and south korea stay on the same page when it comes to dealing with north korea. >> general hurtling, there was a new year's message yesterday from kim jong-un who said, quote, the entire mainland of the u.s. is within the range of our nuclear weapons and the nuclear button is always on the desk of my office. certainly inflammatory, but i guess some might argue par for the course for north korea's leader. >> i think it's goading. kelly would probably confirm
that that this is what we're used to from this guy. he's looking to pull senior level or higher level leaders into a fight with him so he can look really good. here's the other thing, anderson. a smart guy once told me whenever you're doing an international relation and dealing with one country, you have to consider the rule of five. in this particular case, the other four are russia, china, japan, and south korea. and the case we're talking about, russia and china want us to look somewhat like the irrational actor. south korea wants our support in what they're doing. we have to consider those things and not be as -- i would suggest mr. trump should not be as transactional, one on one with nock as he should be in considering the entire region and what's happening there. we do not want to be responsible as the ones who start a war that would be cataclysmic in terms of hundreds of thousands of
casualties. >> appreciate your time. i want to bring in the panel. gordon, you study north korea for years. how surprised were you by the language of this tweet and what effect do you think it has? >> extremely surprised. and the reason is, if you go through the policy options that president trump has, those policies he's pursuing, this tweet doesn't help any of them. you've been asking tonight, okay, previous policies haven't worked, maybe something like this will. but as you go through those options, you can see it doesn't help. that's really going to be the test. it doesn't help coercive diplomacy sanctions. it gives us problems with south korea. look, united states is crazy, so we should be helping north korea, and that's really going to be the test that we're not going to moscow and beijing. hard to do in any case, but much
harder now after this tweet. >> it does seem that a lot of it is not thought out in general. it's more reactive and emotional. but for supporters who would say, well, there's the crazy man theory, the idea he's unpredictingble is a good thing and this adds to it. >> it works if you're north korea. it doesn't work if you're the united states because the rest of the world looks to you for security. the rest of the world looks to you to enforce the international order. you can't be the crazy one. and so that's really where this breaks down. so if you're north korea, yeah, look a little crazy, it helps, but not if you're the u.s. >> james, you worked in the white house. >> i think he's trying to project strength. he's certainly speaking to his supporters, the american public trying to project strength at a time when the north korean leaders are taking a shot at us. >> bragging about the size of
anything, does that project strength to anybody? as the congressman was saying earlier, anybody who's bragging about the size of anything, doesn't that project weakness? >> it does. you have to remember north korea has a history of making provocative comments. they're not just making them now. and barack obama used to ignore them and that's what most presidents do. whereas donald trump is sort of projecting insecurity by having to respond to this and then sort of do this one up man ship mine is bigger than yours. and then saying mine works, it's like baiting him to say yours doesn't, show us that it works. this isn't a game. we're talking about nuclear war here. >> scott? >> the general said something, the thought of president trump punching down. back during the primary, he
would freely punch county at candidates who barely registered in the polls. clearly he's not someone who's content to let a third-rate dictator get away with an insult. he's not going to let kim jong-un have the last word on nuclear weapons. we can debate. i'm sure the media is going to judge, this was a terrible idea. here's what i think we should be focused on for the purposes of educating the american people. kim jong-un says i've got a nuclear button that works. president trump's tweet says we don't think it works. we haven't seen a clear national address on exactly what north korea can do and what our capabilities are. tell the american people whether north korea can actually fire a nuclear weapon at us or not. >> i think the education needs
to happen is to the president of the united states on why these tweets are not only problematic but dangerous, and what the real-life implications are not just for american citizens, but our allies in south korea are with tweets such as this. further more, i have questions for twitter. the president's tweets in my opinion clearly violate the standards. so how long are we going to allow the president of the united states to act as a reckless bully on the internet, a bully that has the power to bring us into nuclear war? >> those tweets violate twitter standard 90% of the tweets i see. >> they're removing people for things every day. but i think donald trump's twitter account is a little bit different. he could literally start an armed conflict. >> there's a whole military process. i don't think a corporation should be reining in the president of the united states. >> who then because it seems as
though -- >> rein him in from what? making statements? you may disagree with that but asking a corporation to check and balance the president of the united states? >> do you believe that these tweets is something he's thought out and run by some folks? or is this something he saw on tv, or read something, just in the moment? >> no, i don't think he necessarily thinks these tweets out, but clearly his posture on north korea has never changed. he doesn't want them to have nuclear weapons. he hates it with kim jong-un or anyone else taunts him. this is nothing new, his position on north korea. the concept of reining him in needs to go somewhere else. >> this level of rhetoric doesn't strike me as that new. explicitly raising the possibility of nuclear war, he's repeatedly doubled down on this rhetoric.
it's not new for him to issue these provocations. there isn't a grander strategy of the patenting war gaming out what tweets are going to provoke what response from the north koreans. but i find the suggestion that he's speaking to the american people very weird because this would be a domestic play for it american people. i think he's scaring the crap out of them. >> we'll continue this conversation. it's an important one. we'll be right back. try cool mint zantac. it releases a cooling sensation in your mouth and throat. zantac works in as little as 30 minutes. nexium can take 24 hours. try cool mint zantac. no pill relieves heartburn faster. turn with one a day men's. a complete multivitamin with key nutrients plus b vitamins for heart health. your one a day is showing. save up to $8 on one a day. see sunday's paper.
general hurtling called this tweet problematic. will someone inform him i, too, have a nuclear button but it's a much bigger one than his and my button works. back now with the panel. gordon, to the extent that -- it's hard to predict how north korea responds to anything, but how does something get interpreted in north korea if that matters? >> it does matter because we're trying to influence north korea into a certain course of action which is to disarm. they're going to look at this and say it elevates kim jong-un because he's on the same level as the president of the united states. >> which is something they wanted for a long time. >> and our foreign policy is really to build coalitions. if you look back at prior tweets on north korea, june 20th, those
were coalition-building messages to people. this one is a coalition destroying message. when the u.s. has been successful, it's been with a coalition. for instance,, the gulf war. that's exactly what we need to do. we need to not only have our allies, japan and south korea, but we also got to neutralize moscow and beijing. and a tweet like this does absolutely the opposite. president trump has squandered an opportunity. >> we didn't see that effect with the fire and fury you mentioned earlier and the rocket man comments before. as a matter of fact it drew more attention to the issue and the united states stepped up its diplomatic engagements after the comments were made via twitter. most folks will say twitter isn't the best way to conduct diplomacy, but the book is being rewritten on that.
it's something leaders are using time and sometime again. >> i agree with the idea that the tweets before didn't have the kind of cataclysmic effect that some predicted but that speaks to a different sort of effect that these tweets are having, which is a sort of numbing effect and people starting to ignore the things that are said by the president of the united states. we're seeing all day around the world, the president can pop off like this and people just sort of brush it off. and that itself is dangerous when he's not taken seriously. >> as a press secretary for people, i want to dispel the myth that all of a sudden our messages are going to twitter hashtag, 280 characters. that's not how politicians communicate. and donald trump's diplomacy is dangerous. for anyone to assert otherwise is crazy. >> the election would say the
opposite. >> this is a question more than a comment. but i wonder if the president believes his messages to north korea are not being received, if he believes his secretary of state is not delivering messages. if he believes his government apparatus as it sits is not effectively showing his anger. so what's the most powerful thing at my disposal, this twitter. >> it goes back to the night we were all in washington for the alabama election where secretary tillerson indicated the u.s. policy was totally reversing itself and he was willing to sit down with north korea one on one about anything. i remember when we were announcing this, because it was breaking news, we were cautious in saying, look, we don't know if this is actual white house policy or is this a government which is not all on the same
page. and gordon, it does seem like that was an outliar comment. >> yes. the administration's had a problem with message insuldisci. they had this under control. that actually looked like they were getting things sorted out. and then you have an incident you talk about where tillerson says something which clearly is not the president's policy. you know, people can blame tillerson for this, but really the responsibility belongs to the president because these people work for him. and so when president trump needs to get a message across, i have no problems with twitter but when he gets a message across, it's got to be clear and consistent. people have to understand all the united states is behind it, and it's also got to be a message that goes to our allies. this one certainly didn't. >> we're going to have more ahead tonight including new reporting on the campaign adviser and witnesses in the
russia probe. we'll be right back. i take pictures of sunrises, but with my back pain i couldn't sleep and get up in time. then i found aleve pm. aleve pm is the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. i'm back. aleve pm for a better am. you won't...that is,w much is until you taste our new menu. discover more ways to enjoy seafood with new tasting plates small plates, with big flavor- like yucatan shrimp covered in chili-lime butter and caramelized pineapple. and if you like hot, buttery maine lobster, get your hands on this petite red lobster roll. for new entrees, explore globally-inspired dishes like dragon shrimp with a spicy soy-ginger sauce. with so many new dishes and all the classics you crave, what are you waiting for? come taste what's new at red lobster. this is dave, his dog cooper, we sell socks. why socks? we found out that socks are the number one most requested clothing item at homeless shelters. so for every pair we sell,
we donate a pair to someone in need. but first we had to fix this. socks shouldn't fall down. fixed. lack of arch support? fixed. socks shouldn't have an annoying seam. fixed. the result? socks so comfortable we've been able to sell and donate over two point five million pairs. get an additional 20% off your first order at bombas.com.
in addition to president trump's sal vo in his twittered war with kim jong-un and the justice department, there was this reporting on one part of the russia investigation. also a top campaign adviser, abedin. instead according to the "times", the spark came when australian officials told about a drunken night george
papadopoulos had in london. he, quote, made a startling revelation. russia had political dirt on hillary clinton. three weeks earlier, mr. papadopoulos has been told moscow had thousands of e-mails that would embarrass mrs. clinton that were apparently stolen. president trump tweeted this signaling where he thinks the focus should be, quote, crooked hillary clinton's top aide, abedin put classified pass words into the hands of foreign agents. sailors pictures on submarine? jail. also on comey and others. someone who was at the sister, former director of national intelligence george clapper. >> you were the director when the fbi launched its investigation. was george papadopoulos a major
factor in the launch of the investigation? >> well, not to my knowledge contempt radiancely. george papadopoulos was a name that was not on my radar scope at the time. and the first i knew about him and his role was when the plea bargain was announced. the short answer to your question is no, i was not a name known to me at the time. >> there's a lot you can't say, but there were other factors that launched the investigation, not just george papadopoulos? >> exactly. i think there were a number of factors that i think probably influenced or stimulated the fbi to initiate the investigation. i think this was certainly a contributing factor, but i don't think it was the exclusive or first reason why the
investigation was launched. >> president trump decided the steel dossier as reason the investigation was launched. he tweeted they use this pile of garbage as a basis for going after the trump campaign. was the steel dossier a major factor or a factor at all? >> well, not actually. it was not. when i say that, i'm speaking specifically about the intelligence community assessment that we, i say we, the fbi and cia along with my office put together the assessment that we published on the 6th of january and briefed then president-elect trump on. the dossier was briefed to him separately by then-direct comey only for the purpose of telling him about it, that it was out there. but it was not an integral part of our assessment. there was lots of other evidence we used which we had very high
confidence in to compile that assessment. >> about pads, the the "times" report read he was brash, boastful, yet competed expectations and was a tantalizing target for a russian-influenced operation. from what you know in operations like that, would he be a prime target? >> absolutely. the russians would look and apparently did look for anyone they felt they could ingratiate themselves with by offering, whether valid or not, information or dirt on hillary clinton. and so someone who professed to be a part of the campaign as a foreign policy adviser, this would be an ideal target for the russians. >> from every intelligence official i've talked to, they say that they would launch multiple probes, that it
wouldn't just be papadopoulos, they would try for as many as possible. >> absolutely. it appears to me that's what they did. they would put feelers out, extend their tentcles to everyone and anyone who would talk to them. >> i want to ask you about something the president tweeted. he wrote crooked hillary's top aide put classified pass words into the hands of foreign agents. jail. deep state justice department must finally act, also on comey and others. the idea of a deep state is another idea the president and his allies have been pushing for a long time. when you hear whether it's the deep state justice department, this notion of a deep state. >> i think it's -- to me it's absurd. i guess what this refers to is a conspiracy somehow among
careerists in the government who are in opposition to president trump or probably more accurately, who are not seen as sufficiently loyal personally to president trump. >> that word careerist is used by a lot of trump allies in a negative way. to you, what is the value of having career professionals who have devoted their entire lives to a particular subject working in the government? >> first, i guess this qualifies me at least as a former member of the deep state if you buy at a absurd proposition. there's tremendous value to the career employees throughout the civil service in our government. this is one of the strengths of our government because it provides a continuity, it provides knowledge, an expertise
more on the russia probe. the role of george papadopoulos, and new insight into the dossier. the founder of fusion gps weighing in the "new york times." i want to read you the key packages. they write, in the year since the publication of the steel dossier, the collection of reports we commissioned about donald trump's ties to russia, the president attacked us on twitter. they sought to tarnish our firm. conservative news outlets have spun a succession of conspiracy theories about our motivates. they write republicans refused to release full transcripts of our firm's testimony, even as they selectively leak details to media outlets on the far right. it's time to share what your company told investigators. yes, we hired mr. steel, but we
said without informing him who we were working for. why did he seek to do deals in a corrupt police state. what came back shocked us. mr. steele saw this as a crime in progress and decided he needed to report it to the fbi. it also says we don't believe the steele dossier was the trigger for the investigation into russian meddling. our sources said the dossier was taken seriously because it corroborated reports they received including one inside the trump camp. the founders of fusion gps back with the panel. joining us is jeffrey toobin. >> i think this is the defense they have put out before. i think what's news in this op ed piece is the idea that one
person, a person in the trump campaign who was cooperating or talking to the fbi at this very early stage. >> right. sources said the dossier was taken seriously by the fbi because it corroborated reports the bureau received from other sources including one inside the trump camp. >> i'm certainly unaware of who inside the trump camp was dealing with the fbi. but certainly i think we all would want to know today who was talking to the fbi within the trump campaign. >> we don't know if that occurred. this is based on an unnamed source to the founders of fusion gps. >> correct, so we don't know if there's such a person. but if there is, we would want to know who it is and why they felt compelled to go to the fbi in the middle of presidential campaign to talk about possible relationship between the trump campaign and russia. >> in light of the papadopoulos news, it raises more questions
about when this investigation got under way and how and how extensive it already was long before the election. >> also, i think what it's focusing on is the republicans' lack of interest in investigating this. the president doesn't want any investigation, and then you have republicans on the hill who spent all this time, 21 hours worth of transcripts and hearings and they're not following any of the leads the fusion gps people are suggesting they follow. they suggested they pursue deutsche bank records which must recall since subpoenaed. i don't know if that's the same thing. >> they also talked about questionable property deals. >> and instead of investigating what they're telling them to go after, they're just basically going after fusion gps. this has been something we've seen republicans doing over and over, attacking the steele dossier even though he's a highly respected person and is
trustworthy. everyone's focused on delegitimizing the investigating. >> another large question that is raised by this, the fbi was obviously deeply involved in investigating the trump campaign during the trump campaign. the public was advised the fbi was investigating the clinton campaign, but we never were told that they were investigating the trump campaign given the incredible political damage done to hillary clinton by the fbi. and by its investigations and by james comey. the idea this investigation was going on so extensively for song and we knew nothing about it, that's a real important post-script to the 2016 campaign. >> as a pr professional, i read this op-ed and i wonder what the fusion people are going to do next. they said they want the full transcript of their interviews
released. if the congress won't release them, are they going to hold a press conference and submit themselves to media scrutiny? that might be a wise tactic. one thing we have to think about as recommends, how far it turns out, is the issue of meddling versus collusion. i think the republicans would be wise to acknowledge and get their arms around meddling occurred. it's fine to think no collusion occurred, but acknowledge the meddling and then set forth some parameters how we're going to prevent it in the future. that's the responsible governing amuse her move here. >> but if that is the case, is there a chance that the meddling lends itself to attempts to collude? i think that's a very interesting semantics, the types of words you're using. i don't think the congressional investigations should limit themselves to one particular
area that they should look at. our tax dollars have been spent on an extensive investigation. so anything that comes before the committee that it incredible should be investigated. ho how far does the rabbit hole go? it's very confusing, as you can tell. we should not be suggesting that the congressional committee should limit themselves because that's not the best interest of the american people finding the truth. that's in the best interest of the president. >> does anything stand out in this op-ed? >> i think the advertisement, if you will, is their attempt to -- look, they entered the fray of politics. this is the business they're involved in. it's a high-profile business and they got caught. and members of congress, chairman of the judiciary committee, the chairman of the intelligence committee are
asking questions. and they don't like it. >> what did they got caught doing. >> they're opposition research. >> they got caught in the fray of this -- >> it's not illegal. it's just normal behavior. i don't understand. >> this is what research firms do, every campaign has one. sometimes you have a research person on staff. they go out and find information about your opponents. caveat, usually you don't get that information from a foreign entity. i think it's reckless for you to suggest they got caught doing something wrong. >> i said they got caught in the fray of a political campaign that's now being exposed and questions are being asked. and they're not happy about it as a business. so this is what you see. >> i heard a lot of republicans say essentially what scott was saying, which is the president could take the high road. he could see i deplore any attempts to meddle if they
occurred. we're going to get to the bottom of this and make sure it doesn't happen again. >> have you been following the trump presidency? >> are you waiting for that? >> i'm not, but he takes this issue so personally that he can't do that and it's caused a lot of this muddling we're having now. >> even if he can't, the congressional republicans can't. ultimately we're wondering, i know we have reports today we'll see dualing reports. but to me, you could really get ahead of this thing if you're the congressional republicans by showing the american people a forward-looking way to stop meddling in the future. i think that's what i want to know. can they do this again? >> why can't they release the transcripts. why can't we see? >> i do want to see the transcripts, but if releasing that information would impede mueller, which is something we don't know, and i think jeff could weigh in on that. if there's some inter-connectivity there, you wouldn't want it to mess up
something mueller's doing. >> that won't take long, no. >> we should remember this is a question, russia did clearly meddle in the election. that's not a democrat or republican issue. it's an american people issue. russian can and probably will do this again. midterm elections are coming up, and we should all want to know what happened and how to prevent this. >> we have to take a break. more ahead. we'll be right back. with key nutrients plus b vitamins for heart health. your one a day is showing. save up to $8 on one a day. see sunday's paper. but some of us make somethinge make sommuch more. dinner.
coaching means making tough choices. jim! you're in! but when you have high blood pressure and need cold medicine that works fast, the choice is simple. coricidin hbp is the #1 brand that gives powerful cold symptom relief without raising your blood pressure. coricidin hbp. . tonight's breaking news, the founders of fusion gps speaking out tonight and the question of collusion, something at the talked about in their "new york times" op-ed, quote the intelligence communities have known for months that allegations of collusion were pouring in from the independent sources in the campaign. back now about the panel. jeff, you were saying something. >> they raise a very good
question of why haven't their transcripts been released. usually when a witness testifies before a committee under seal, it's to protect either the individual's privacy or classified information. they obviously have next o objection. i think they are calling out the committees for a certain degree of hypocrisy because it is true they have leaked certain parts of their testimony to sympathetic news outlets, but why not let the chips fall and let's see if there were any allegations of i am propriety. >> they wouldn't have a copy of their own transcript? >> no, they've asked for it but they have not gotten >> it the only thing i wonder
about is clearly these guys know stuff. i don't know what they know, 21 hours worth of stuff. if i were an investigator and i were questioning other witnesses or targets about what these guys may know, i'm not altogether certain italy want everything they know in the public domain. but wouldn't it be better in some ways for the other independent investigators to keep mystery about what fusion gps told congress? >> they're looking to gather facts and evidence and come to some conclusion, that's when you'll see the reports come out. >> would there be any legal jeopardy request if these two founders held a press conference and regave they are testimony? >> that's what this op-ed piece is. >> but in greater detail obviously. >> these are available people. they are not hiding. >> would they be in legal jeopardy? >> not at all. even in the grand jury.
if you were a witness in a grand jury, you can walk out in front of the courthouse and i say i told the grand jury the following ten things. there's no prohibition on individuals talking about their own testimony. they simply would like the full transcript because they feel like they have nothing to hide. >> i also feel like the republicans aren't taking the investigation seriously, so they want the transcript to come out so we can all see. i'm just taking what they wrote in this piece, so everyone can see what they shared with congress, and that congress hasn't been taking this seriously even though thief given them a lot of evidence and things to follow up on. >> there's an amazing fact in here, that the only bank records subpoenaed by the entire house intelligence committee are gps's bank records, not donald
trump's, not jared kushner's not paul manafort's. >> i think it's been clear for a while that this committee was not going to be the one that got to the bottom of the russia investigation. there has been concerted effort for quite some time, and we've seen >> and discredit a lot of the investigation or turn it towards hillary clinton or toward the democrats. the ultimate arbiter of all of this is the mueller investigation. that is going to be in my mind and mest of the people watching, the most serious and nonpolitically biased investigation. >> the only picture who has the full picture of this is mueller. the senate committee, the house
committee -- >> when the president or the lawyer says they believed the end is in sight, do you believe that. >> i think the only person who knows is robert mueller. how much is still coming in terms of requests, but there's no way of telling how much when he's wrapped up. >> there is a major trial scheduled for may in 2018, the manafort and gates trial. if you look at the volume of material they have and we don't know a fraction of it, there is a lot to assimilate. the white house lawyers -- the first round of interviews has concluded the white house has produced all the documents they have requested. but that just means a first round has concluded. >> there'll be other rounds? >> presumably. just because you interviewed
some people once does not mean you're not going to interview them again. >> look, the democrats motivation on the house and senate side are up coming elections. they want to continue tadrag this out as long as they can to try to impact the 2018 -- >> are you sure that's true, any of the actual focus groups i've been in, no one has said i'm going to the polls on russia. i think the democrats on the house and the senate side are interested in the investigation because we need to know what happened. >> i'm sure it's all moral high ground. >> there's got to be politics involved. >> we've got to take a quick break. everybody on the panel, brace yourselves. the unforgiving cold striking much of the u.s. could become more miserable this week. a monster storm threatening a large part of the u.s. a weather
let's give this guy gig- really? and these kids, and these guys, him, ah. oh hello. that lady, these houses! yes, yes and yes. and don't forget about them. uh huh, sure. still yes! xfinity delivers gig speed to more homes than anyone. now you can get it, too. welcome to the party. the punishing chill that's impacting much of the country is expected to get even worse in some areas later this week. the brutal cold is even tormenting parts of the south. here's a water fountain frozen
in pensacola fla. and later this week it could strike with freezing temperatures, ice and snow. so much so it would resemble a winter hurricane, returned to a rare weather phenomenon known as a bomb cyclone. tom, what are we expecting in the coming days? what is this bomb cyclone thing? >> this is when a pressure of a storm system actually drops 24 millibars in 24 hours. every state in the u.s. hit the freezing mark today. all of the lower 48 had wind chills in the teens. notice in white, anderson, these are the departure from normal. to nearly a 30 degree temperature, off what is average in dallas. in atlanta this morning, 1 degrees. at the same time in anchorage.
it was 39. in fact the high temperature was the highest in panama city at 44. the nasa rover recorded a temperature of minus 2. look at the wind chills. it's colder in chicago than on the surface of mars at minus 15 as well as detroit. you showed the temperature of this frozen fountain. we're talking about i-10, i-95, interstate 75. how about this, snow in the last few hours making its way off the coast of texas, the parishes of louisiana. we've got warnings. your eyes are not deceiving you, winter storm warnings in northern florida extend all the way up the coastline. it's not just the icing but heavy snowfall. here's where the bombing takes place. this area of low pressure after dropping a few inches on the
beaches of north and south carolina will create hurricane force winds. right now the system stays well-off the coast it'll just be tropical storm force winds, anderson, but it's trending closer to the coastline. which even without 8 to 10 inches of snowfall, the winds alone could knock out power to thousands. and then we're going to have because of this broad circulation, the coldest air of the season moving in back behind it. >> first of all, it's colder in minnesota than on mars? >> it is, right now. yes, it's not good right now. >> and all this snow on the east coast, when is that supposed to happen? >> well, tomorrow morning. it begins really overnight tonight into tomorrow morning for florida, and then we'll see 2 to 3 inches in parts of georgia and south carolina. it's really wednesday night in the midatlantic area. of course that trending westward is not good, but then we could see upwards to a foot of snow.
parts of rhode island, connecticut, eastern massachusetts well to the north. i know you're getting the feeling back into your ears after enduring the coldest new year's eve drop after 100 years. but that temperature you endured with andy i think the high temperature in new york on saturday might be 9 or 10 degrees. so it's really going to be massive. and just when we thought we were going to see the end of it on sunday, another batch moves in next week. >> time to hand it over to jake tapper. "the lead" starts now. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. good evening, and welcome to a special prime time edition of the lead. president trump this evening responding to the nuclear threat from north korea n way the world has never heard from an american president. north korean