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quite a day a lot of news. >> a lot going on and so much more to come. i'm john berman. "at this hour" starts now. it is 11:00 on capitol hill and it's looking like high noon in the showdown over government funding. the threat of a shutdown looms larger than ever. hard line conservatives are bulking in a last minute reprieve offered by their own party and democrats are not budging without a deal on immigration. cnn's sunlen certificaserfaty i capitol hill. are there enough votes to avoid a shutdown in the house? >> we simply don't know yet. speaker of the house paul ryan staying far away from making any sort of predictions on vote counts himself. he spoke at the press conference here on capitol hill and he was asked do you think that this new
plan that you guys have together will have enough support in the house to pass? he said, look, we haven't even whipped it yet, staying away from any, making bold predictions whether it would pass or not. certainly house republican leadership behind the scenes they are feeling a bit more confident and spending bill that came together overnight and presented to their conference. that keeps the government funded for at least the next 28 days until february 16th. the new plan does not address d taxt ca, what many democrats want to see included in the spending plan. but it does add funding for the children's health insurance program, extends that for another six years, something that many democrats wanted and delays some key obamacare taxes. key here is what house conservatives, many members of the house freedom caucus, can they get behind that plan. that is a big question for house republican leadership going forward as they certainly try to sell his plan up here. >> if they do sell it sunlen and get it through the house, then
the ball is in the senate's court. what would happen with democrats there who would wield some power because republicans don't have a filibuster proof majority. >> that's key when and if it gets to the senate, that's going to be the big question. republicans do need democratic support here and need 60 votes to get it through. once it eventually reaches the senate and that's something that republican leaders are very mindful of. they have to get at least nine democrats to sign onto the bill and certainly that puts a lot of democrats who do have leverage here in a tough spot. many have said they are drawing the line in the sand and won't vote for a spending bill that does not address daca but there are others, especially those in tight re-election races towards mid-term election that may vote for it. saying that he wants to keep the government funded. we also heard really committal
zain, i'm tired of voting for cr and that's a lot of sentiment that people have, this band aid stop-gap measure is not something they want to put their name to. brianna? >> thank you for that. this morning president trump's chief of staff is reaching out to lawmakers in search of common ground. the president makes a trip to capitol hill and caitlin collins has more on this. is there any indication where the president is on a bill on a proposal that would avert a government shutdown? >> well, the white house has already been pre-blaming democrats for this. but let's be clear the white house is aware of these optics, this is a republican controlled white house and republican controlled congress. they know what the optics are going to be if the government does shut down while they are in control. yesterday at the press briefing, sarah sanders said that the white house was still looking to get a clean two-year budget deal but i've been speaking with sources inside the white house
this morning after the republican leadership proposed plan b essentially last night and they said we can expect to see some kind of formal support for this proposal come out of the white house here today. now, we haven't heard from the president on this directly, but there certainly is a chance we could today as he travels to capitol hill this afternoon for a congressional ceremony to honor former senator bob dole. the white house said there are no plans for the president to stop into any lawmaker's offices while he's there but this is certainly a president where he makes up his mind on spot and can certainly choose to do so if he feels he needs to garner a little more support in order to avoid a government shutdown here today. >> i also want to ask about some numbers that the trump administration has released. it's a report on terror talks about foreign born terrorists and critics say this is trying to shoalw a link to immigration policies that the president is it not like, when really the vast majority of deaths that are caused by terrorists are caused
by american born terrorists talking about attacks seen in recent years. tell us about these numbers. >> reporter: report blasted out by the department of homeland security and department of justice, two reporters, 11-page document is raising more eyebrows than this is answering questions. there's a few rnsz why. makes a claim that 73% of those convicted of international terrorism charges in u.s. federal courts happen post 9/11 were because they were foreign born people. now, it leaves a lot to be desired because it includes a terrorist act committed abroad but doesn't say exactly how many. it doesn't provid a breakdown of how many individuals were arrested for acts committed on u.s. soil and it doesn't explain how many foreign nationals were radicalized only after they entered the united states. it also doesn't include those con vicked of offenses related to domestic terrorism either. we saw the president touting this report on twitter last
night. but he left out the word international, which is a key word when we're reading all of this. it's also raising eyebrows because not many people miss this came out as talks were going on on capitol hill. >> we heard yesterday morning she testified before congress as well and she was asked about some of these questions that you outlined there, caitlin and she just didn't really have the answers, which seemed i am plausible considering she seems to be a good hold on these things. thanks so much. we cnn political analyst jackie kucinich and chris cillizza. let's start with the immediate crisis, shall we, jackie? is the government going to stay open? these proposals we're seeing before house republicans and you heard the house speaker hasn't whipped this. this short term measure, is this
something republicans will go along with. >> >> i think remains to be seen. you heard skepticism from mark meadows as recently as last night. the freedom caucus is under a lot of pressure to vote for this and bring this along. it doesn't look like they are there yet. >> and it seems like -- i don't understand why they would vote for it if i'm trying to put myself in the shoes of what they want because this puts you right back in the same place in a month. you don't get a whole lot out of it if you're a conservative republican. then you're sort of buying time for republicans to come up with a compromise for democrats which if you're a conservative, that's not what you want to see, right? >> you are giving the leadership what it says it needs and what it wants, which is not really the primary concern of the house freedom caucus, nor the major concern of the liberal life. they are more idealogically driven than prag natically
driven. that said, i don't think there's any -- caitlin mentioned this, i don't think there's any debate if the government shuts down, republicans are getting blamed for it. majorities of the country blame republicans in 2013 in the wake of that shutdown and in '95 and '96, the last two shutdowns we've had. in both of those situations there was split control, republicans controlled congress and democrat in the white house. there isn't that now. donald trump can tweet as much as he wants about democrats, they don't want to fund our military, republicans control everything point a, point b, the average person has some sense of that. that's where i think it's problematic. >> i was talking to some senate republican staff this morning and there is cautious optimism that paul ryan will be able to push this through. once it gets to the senate there's also a cautious optimism that these democrats primarily those from red states facing very tough re-election bids will sign on to this. what that means in 28 days, i
don't think they will look that far at that point. as far as the immediate problem, there is very cautious optimism that the government isn't going to shut down. >> we're going to be right back where we are now in a month, right? >> yep. >> this is what we do. >> seriously, it is rinse, repeat, free oak out. and democrats are going to feel even more emboldened to try to stop this if this children's health insurance measure is not a part -- and what goes through right now passes it's not going to be a part of this next package. also, the closer we get to election day, the harder it is to get anything done. >> does it help, chris, i wonder, by not dealing with daca right now, in what has become such a terrible environment because of what came out about what the president said, about african nations and about haiti and there's just -- there's so
much -- there's normally animosity but there's just -- you can feel it, right? it's very palpable. does it help to give everyone a little breathing room for a month? >> i think time heals a lot of wounds and you would rather take the heat off of this. it feels like a month but it's been less than a week since donald trump had that immigration meeting in the white house. so sure, in theory, but i'd remind you, they had issues with daca -- this is not -- the border security funding versus daca protections fight is not one that suddenly became contentious because donald trump said what he said. this is one in which there are two blocks within the parties that feel very strongly, one on border security, one on daca, i don't want to say never they shall meet, but it was a big moment but in a month to jackie's point, in a month they
did a two-month continuing resolution, in two months we would be back in the same place. it is not at tered by kicking the can down the road. >> when i was in college, i was in the library the night before writing that paper. >> you get a month long extension, you don't start that day writing for the next month. you start the night before the month-long expansion. >> it expands to the time allotted. as we look in the short term towards a discussion on immigration again, jackie, do we really have a sense of where the president is and what he wants on immigration? >> it seems like right now he's much more aligned with his staff than as we heard senator graham say yesterday, than he is with senator durbin and senator graham. we've seen this can change. there's that addage that whoever is in the room with the president last is the one that changes his mind. however, it does seem like his chief of staff john kelly, perhaps stephen miller have the
president in a place where he's not as amenable to some of the more moderate proposals. >> jackie, thank you so much and chris cillizza. bringing this morning, steve bannon to cooperate with special counsel bob mueller after house investigators accuse the former white house chief strategist of stone walling. we'll have details on that ahead. plus, the white house doctor says the president is in excellent health. but his results indicate he has heart disease and is borderline obese. what is going on here? we're live with the fact check from dr. sanjay gupta. lite autos we know that when you're spending time with the grandkids every minute counts. and you don't have time for a cracked windshield. that's why we show you exactly when we'll be there. saving you time, so you can keep saving the world. >> kids: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace ♪
the house intel committee couldn't do it yesterday but cnn is learning that the former white house chief strategist is going to talk with prosecutors rather than testify before the grand jury. this comes after bannon was subpoenaed by mueller and the house intelligence committee after refusing to answer
questions about his time working for the president or his work during the transition after the president was ee leked. bannon reportedly will talk openly with mueller's team and he might go back before the panel tomorrow to answer more questions. bannon is just one of several current former or trump insiders appearing this week. senior white house aide rick dearborne set to testify this hour and corey liewandowski wil appear before the panel and hicks could get the call on friday. shimon, what else do we know about steve bannon coming back before the intel committee for a second time? >> reporter: right, brian tha b, that's supposed to happen tomorrow, that he is expected to appear before them tomorrow. as to whether or not anything will change in terms of the questions they specifically have for him, relating to the
transition and to the time he was at the white house, it's unclear if he's going to answer any of those questions. it's really not up to him. he claims it's up to the white house. he's claiming that they essentially gagged him and told him he could not speak about that time period. more importantly though, i think is the special counsel his appearance before the special counsel, when that will happen. that's going to be a significant time period. he will not be able to claim executive privilege in that case when he appears before the special counsel because if he does get into a place where he starts refusing to answer certain questions, remember, they have the grand jury subpoena that they can still basically force him to appear before a grand jury where he would have to answer questions or plea the fifth. >> all right, shimon, thank you for that update. let's talk with cnn legal analyst and former special assistant of the justice
department michael zelden. explain this to us, shimon says now they have in their back pocket still this subpoena before the grand jury. but why was bannon subpoenaed when he seemed to work out what everyone else did, which was just having an interview with the counsel's team? >> i think that you see in mueller a view of people that he trusts and doesn't trust. so with manafort, for example, we asked, why did they have a no-knock entry into his apartment, why not knock on the door and come in? because he didn't trust manafort. the same thing is probably true with ban. doesn't trust him and wanted to send a message that this is serious stuff. you can't just be talking to attorney for the independent counsel staff and the same way you talk to wolf and fire and fury book. different environment. >> he's said he's invoked executive privilege as we understand when he's talking to
house investigators up on capitol hill. he's not going to have that protection when he talks to robert mueller's team. but i do wonder, he has invoked executive privilege when he's talking to house investigators when it comes to his time on the transition, not just his time in the white house. does he have that protection under executive privilege? >> no, and actually, of course it's the president who has to assert the executive privilege, it's not bannon's to assert. the president has to tell bannon, i direct you not to answer the questions because i'm asserting executive privilege here. >> if he's saying he's been instructed by the white house, isn't that the same thing? >> yes, exactly. when you say bannon is refusing, bannon has been instructed to refuse. with respect to mueller -- >> but the transition, that's not you're saying that's not covered, he should be answering questions about the transition? >> right. we've learned from the united states versus nixon supreme court case and in re sealed case, investigation by
independent counsel that these privileges are very narrow in scope. they are not broad and involve time and government talking to the president or talking to another top level executive that is going to be briefing the president. so the -- so the use of this in the transition, post his tenure in the white house, talking to people that don't have anything to do with the president, it's all spear yus. >> what is the strategy in your mind. is it so bannon and his team is deal ling solely there's one ga in town talking to robert mueller's team and not going to confuse it with talking with house investigators where you could get conflicting testimony. what is he trying to do by invoking executive privilege on the president's executive privilege on a time period when he clearly should not be? >> it's not clear what the white house's strategy was in directing bannon not to answer
questions for a period of time where no privilege attached. if he does that with mueller, it will be a brick in the wall of obstruction again. it will be another factor he takes into account with respect to the white house's behavior. >> you don't rule -- >> it makes no sense what they did on the hill yesterday because now he's under subpoena and going to come back and they are going to ask these questions. if he refuses, they can take him to court and compel him to answer these questions under penalty of contempt and he can be jailed for that. >> and a judge will specify very clearly, look, that privilege that has been invoked or that you've been told has been invoked -- >> applies or doesn't apply. >> what happens if he were to -- if he's risking to be found -- risking that, if he is found in contempt? >> remember susan mcdougall in the white water case, went to jail for 18 months to refusing to answer starr's question. >> how do his comments, it's a different situation when you're
mouthing off in a book like "fire and fury", wolff's book we saw. how do they play for steve bannon legally? >> it depends. if mueller believes that he has truth behind these assertions that there are facts that underlie it, for example, he said bannon said, money laundering is the key to all of this. it's a plain as the hair on your face. mueller is going to say, tell me why that is. give me the factual basis for that statement. he said that the june 9th meeting was treasonous. mueller will want to say why, how do you know? what facts give rise to that opinion? mueller will drill down on the factual basis for these bold assertions which are fine to make in a tell-all book but not fine to tell in a grand jury. and mueller will want to know what the difference is between them. >> michael zeldin, thanks for explaining it to us. coming up, can you be an in excellent health and also have heart disease and borderline obese? according to the president's
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president trump gets a clean bill of health from the white house physician who says his overall health is excellent. s about an a lot of focus on the fact that trump is borderline obese by current medical st standards but the numbers more concerning have to do with his heart. dr. sanjay gupta looked over the results and tell us how the president shapes up when you compare this to medical standards for a healthy heart. >> reporter: well, the president does have some evidence of heart disease, based on a test that looks for this plaque buildup in the blood vessels around his heart. it's a pretty well known test. to be fair it's something very
common in someone of his age, just about half of the men of his age are going to have the same level of heart disease that he has. he's also as you know, he's borderline obese according to the measurements the doctor gave us and high cholesterol which he's being treated and the dosage of that medication will increase. he also had two other tests that give a picture of the here and now if you will. they give a picture of how is his heart functioning right now? despite what the cholesterol is and heart disease is, that's an echo or ultrasound of the heart and test that basically sees how the heart performs when it's stressed and according to dr. jackson, those tests look normal. so his heart looks to be functioning normally but there's certainly things to watch out for. >> what would a doctor put more weight on, the buildup, calcium number you're talking about or the echo? >> i think for the here and now it's the echo. is there a problem that's currently happening with his
heart? does the heartbeat abnormally, something abnormal when the heart is stressed in some way. according to dr. jackson's reports, that's not the case. the heart looks to be fine right now. there is some evidence of disease though and that means there's disease in the blood vessels that feed the heart. if that disease or that narrowing gets worse over time, that's when you start to worry about some heart problem down the line. they can categorize this by the amount of plaque he has in his blood vessels. he has a moderate chance of having heart problems over next several years. if he doesn't do anything about it, if he doesn't correct the diet and increase exercise and take medications and do those things that dr. jackson i think any doctor would recommend for him. >> and we know, sanjay, that his -- if you want to call it a lifestyle profile in terms of his exercise, what he eats and he has a diet coke addiction. he has several of them per day. knowing that, what would the recommendation be to a patient
like that? >> reporter: well, you know, what dr. jackson said he's recommended is to go on a low carb, low fat diet, which makes a lot of people's eyes glaze over when they hear that but that is going to be the standard recommendation, a heart healthy diet. he would talk to the white house chefs about that and engage the help of the first family to make that more of a reality and some sort of exercise program. he doesn't really have an exercise program right now. so starting anything would be an improvement in terms of exercise but that's again what dr. jackson is talking about and i think any doctor would recommend for a patient like president trump, 71 years old, with what is a fairly average sort of amount of heart disease, he also is increasing the dosage of that medication, that cholesterol lowering medication, which i think is very important here, given his choleserol has continued to go up. the bad type of cholesterol has continued to go up and amount of
heart disease he has has continued to go up. some numbers over the past year increased significantly. >> thank you so much for explaining that to us. dr. sanjay gupta live at the white house today. now i want to talk about senator jeff flake, delivered a scathing speech on the senate floor a short time ago and compared president trump to soviet dictator joseph stalin. the arizona republican criticized mr. trump for his attacks on the media. >> des positive tix is the enemy of the free people, which makes the free press the guardian of democracy. when a figure in pow are reflectively calls any press that doesn't suit him fake news, it is that person who should be the figure of suspicion, not the press. we know well that no matter how powerful, no president will ever have dominion over objective reality. and an american president who cannot take criticism who must constantly deflect and distort
and distract and find someone else to blame is charting a very dangerous path. simply put, it's the press's obligation to uncover the truth about power. it is the people's right to criticize their government and it is our job to take it. >> so what is jeff flake's objective and do his words even matter? he is after all going to leave the senate. joining me to talk about this is political comment ator, cnn political commentator and former communications adviser for trump campaign. jason, when you listened to jeff flake's comments and a lot of it he was talking about a need for shared truth and he was really saying there shouldn't be an attach on truth that donald trump executed in his belief. what did you make of the kmebts. >> i was watching the speech and found it pretty ridiculous, this is what the swamp does. we're talking about the
potential government shutdown in coming friday unless hill leadsers can come together and put together a plan. the president is trying to get a deal done on daca. >> republicans are going it alone right now it looks like. >> democrats need to get with it and keep government open. i think that will really bite democrats if they don't come on board and do something here. but we have a president willing to come up with a solution on daca and something to reform our broken immigration system. this is something that senator flake has been championing for the last 18 years been in washington. he's been in washington for a long time, but rather than go to the senate floor and do something about keeping the government open and making sure the military is funded or coming up with a deal on daca, the significant issue, he'll be known for trying to take on trump and number two his position for open borders, instead he's attacking president trump. today it sounded like a jefferson jackson day stump speech than trying to solve any problems. >> what do you think, paul?
>> senator flake is one of the most conservative members of the republican party and that speech he gave it on the senate floor. that will be an important part of the history of this era. he is only one year into a four-year contract and already distinguished himself as a lee ar. mac death doth murder sleeps, donald trump murders truth. two thirds of people think he's not honest, leading members of his own party point that out. the first real act was to lie to the american people, about something stupid, the size of his crowd but he has been actually counted by fact chec r checkers and counted 2,000 lies in less than a year. he is an extaf grant extraordinary liar brought the morale rot to the american presidency and member of his own party calling him out is historically significantly, not politically, won't get a budget
passed but it's terribly important because it's part of a larger picture. when you compare our president, my president to joseph stalin to duterte, the dictator in the philippines and bashar al assad, that's extraordinary. i never even heard a democrat -- >> do you think that's a fair comparison? >> in the sense they lie, yes. >> they are known for other things too, paul. >> to be clear. >> it was a speech about attacking a press. this president attacks the press. i would extend that, he doesn't only attacks the press but calls judges so-called judges and attacks them and said the fbi is in tatters because they are investigating and cia is like the gastopo, he attacks any check on power because he would to be like duterte, stalin, putin. >> i think it's completely out of -- to compare the president of united states to stalin who
killed millions of people. it shows how personal it's become for creatures of the swamp. it goes back to my earlier point, what did senator flake think he was going to accomplish by this? it's pretty clear the republican party shifted a lot since he got here 18 years ago, no longer relevant and lose his primary if he ran for re-election this go around. he's bitter. >> i've even heard democratic observers paul say i don't know if he should be compared to stalin and they have raised that question. however, john mccain takes a more nuanced approach in an op-ed he wrote, also from arizona, he says in this "washington post" op-ed, these efforts are being closely watched by foreign leaders who are already using his words as cover as they silence and shuder one of the key points of democracy. the point is so donald trump, you know, if you don't lump him in as you say and many others say with stalin, there are other leaders who have at their
disposal harsh measures that are not acceptable here in the u.s. and they use donald trump for cover. >> none of that is happening here in the united states. obviously -- >> i'm talking -- that's not the question. donald trump talking about foreign leader who's look to what he says and use that for cover in what they are -- in what they are doing, which is even taking out individuals in their country. what do you say to that? >> respectfully speaking, i think that's plain silly, that a dictator in another country will use -- all believable that they could use president trump as an excuse for their behalf yor. there's no place for violence and no place for treating journalists like that, which they do in some these dictatorship countries and trying to pull president trump in on that is out of bounds. senator flake and senator mccain they lose the moral high ground they might have with their argument when they get in and going into the name calling and throwing attacks like that. to compare someone to -- >> john mccain didn't call him a
name here. >> saying comparing him to -- pulling in dictators from other countries. i mean it's the juxtaposition of the two they are trying -- >> plainly admires these dictators. stalin had around him an evil machine. this president has a virt uous machine of democracy but that's the test. this will be the test of the trump era. those that believe in freedom and truth and justice and donald trump who attacks all of those things including truth every single day. >> i'm out of time. thank you gentlemen so much. i appreciate it. the prospects of a government shutdown. they are looking more likely by the second in fact. are lawmakers just going to kick the can down the road or can they reach a deal that strengthens the border and helps hundreds of thousands of d.r.e.a.m.ers who fear being deported? we'll ask a lawmaker in the thick of this fight next.
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it penetrates deep to treat. it soothes, moisturizes, and creates an spf 30 barrier, to protect against flare-ups caused by the sun. herpecin l. with every passing second a government shutdown is drawing closer and house republicans are pushing a one-month stop-gap plan to keep the lights on. can the majority party get the deal done without democrat support. that is looking unlikely. conservatives are not on board with the rest of their party. house freedom caucus chair mark meadows says between the nose and undecided, there's not enough support to pass the plan with republican only votes. scott taylor of virginia, thank you for taking the time today. >> good afternoon, thank you for having me. >> i want to know what you think, there really seem to be a couple of camps here and i'm wondering which one you're a member of. there is this plan that the leadership, your leadership is
proposing a 28-day extension to fund the government and gotten sweeteners for democrats like an extension of the children's health insurance program for six years or on the other side, you have conservatives who are saying we want a full year of defense funding with a short term funding extension. where do you fall? >> well, at the moment i'm undecided on the whole thing. obviously i serve and have the honor of serving a district that has more military and veterans than anyone in the nation. it's a big deal to make sure we get rid of these caps because we have a huge problem of military readiness and maintenance and deployment schedules have been extended. that's really bad for our military. we had almost 80 deaths if i'm not mistaken of training last year. at the same time, shutting down anybody, it's truly not. i'm been on this program before and speaking about the daca population, republicans want more security, we want disincentives that have the
problem happening again and in exchange we're dealing with this population, which i think we should do. at the same time, i don't think it's appropriate to put that on a spending thing and hold up military spending. i gave you a couple of reasons why militariwise with the daca population on a spending bill. it's an abdication ofshut down on that. >> what is it going to take for you to come to a decision? >> so i think i'm going to have conversations back home with folks in the military and my constituents as well too. i'm conflicted of course because i know that crs, this continuing resolutions that happened, it's a bad way to run government and happening for a while now. again, it hurts our military, it hurts folks fighting every day and people have literally died because of training accidents and not being prepared. i'm conflicted about it but at the same time, i know it's bad to shut down government and it would hurt -- it would harm virginia and my district of
course. but at some time we need to stand up and need to say that these crs, that this sequest sequestration are hurting men and women fighting for us. >> do you like the idea of a full year -- do you like the idea of a full year of defense funding attached to a temporary funding for the rest of the government? are you comfortable with that but you have reservations? if so, comfortable with that, my reservation, i don't think the senate will take it up. for the first time in ten years, the house has passed all 12 appropriations bills and i think it's the responsible thing to do to fund the military, of course, and i don't think it's a partisan thing as a republican and democrat we should come together as americans and do that but i'm not sure the senate will take it up, that they have the 60 votes and playing politics to do it and so that's my -- >> you're right, it's widely seen as unrealistic for even
getting through the house. that's really a problem. even besides getting the ball in the senate's court, i wonder then -- >> if i may, i think it would get through the house pretty convincingly with the senate. in leadership's mind, the senate won't take it up. >> the senate won't take it up. >> the senate won't take it up. which is again in my opinion irresponsible for our military -- >> unrealistic it would get through congress. it is not seen as a realistic vehicle. then you have one option, this option that your leadership is proposing, unless there's some other option that you were in favor of. or are you just more willing to have democrats in the house instead have to vote on it and try to blame them even though you guys are in power and it seem you would be blamed for a shutdown? >> i don't care about the blame. it's important we fund our military. i don't care about the politics when it comes to that. it's important. that to me as an american,
that's the first thing we should do. again, i'm not blaming democrats but i do think it's irresponsible to try to put daca on the spending thing when it should be alone separate with the republicans that want border security and more disincentives to have this happen again. i don't think it's responsible to have that in a spending bill. >> it's not -- this new proposal by your leadership, it's not on that proposal. it's -- it's not on that proposal. >> that's correct, but democrats are trying to force it on the proposal. that's my point. >> i will end by saying it seems possible that senate democrats would pass that. we will see. congressman scott taylor of virginia, we certainly appreciate you being on with us. thank you. >> thank you so much. >> still ahead, a deep freeze hitting millions and causing misery at airports, this is a live look at security lines in atlanta. we have the latest on the flight delays next. this this this this is my body of proof. proof of less joint pain and clearer skin. this is my body of proof that i can take on psoriatic
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millions of people are feeling the freeze this morning, and a lot of them are not used to feeling it. overnight, there was a winter storm that dumped snow, ice, frigid air from the florida panhandle all the way to new england. officials are warning people to stay off the roads. thinking about flying? that's not going to be a whole lot better than driving today. over 1500 flights have been grounded so far. the worst of the cancellations are hitting boston and atlanta. that's where we find cnn's diane gallagher. she's live inside of atlanta's hartfield jackson international airport. there are a lot of people moving pretty darn slowly behind you. >> reporter: yeah, i just want to illustrate, all of these people, there are four lines
just like this one that go all the way back to tsa security this way waiting to get in. this is, of course, the busiest airport in the world. you're talking a quarter of a million passengers who come through every single day. they had a lot of delays this morning. some of the runways were shut down. delta, which of course this is its hub, has canceled about 600 flights so far. that's not even counting all of those delays from the other airlines in delta as well. there are people who sat on tarmacs waiting for their flights to deice. then you've got the domino effect. everybody who's come out to try and rebook, even if there are planes here, they may not have crews in atlanta to get them to other places right now. and as you guys know, this storm is going up on the east coast and the mid-atlantic. so some places aren't able to ak semitho -- accept those flights as well. a lot of people here say they're trying to be patient. they understand planes, snow, and ice don't mix very well. still a lot of patience they'll
need. >> certainly. diane gallagher, thank you so much. up next, the clock is ticking toward a government shutdown. we'll have the latest from capitol hill after a quick break. new year, new phones for the family. join t-mobile, and when you buy one of the latest samsung phones get a samsung galaxy s8 free. plus, unlimited family plans come with netflix included. i tabut with my back paines, i couldn't sleep and get up in time. then i found aleve pm. aleve pm is the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. i'm back. aleve pm for a better am.
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