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your cars calls as soon as the white house re-opens again. >> the best part is the hat. that he put the hat on for the picture. thanks to all of you for joining us. and don't forget you can watch outfront any time. go to cnn go. "ac 360" begins right now. it is over. president trump should be signing it any moment now. this should get the government back open for business only 22 weeks. president trump and the gop. here is what happened today. senate majority mitch mcconnell struck a deal. mainly a battle over immigration
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reform. deciding the fate of daca. democrats want to stop any deportation efforts of the so-called d.r.e.a.m.ers. mcconnell said he would be open on a later date. they agreed to re-open the gr t government based on the promise. as for democrats, senator schumer is facing criticism. he went as far as calling today's deal a good solution. >> now, there is a real pathway to get a bill on the floor and through the senate. it is a good solution. and i will vote for it. president trump's unwillingness to compromise caused trump shutdown and brought us to this
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moment. the facts are well-known. >> meanwhile, plenty of questions around the extent of the president's participation in the negotiations. the white house is taking a victory lap. >> what the president did clearly worked. 81-18. those numbers are much more in the president's favor. >> politics as usual. all sides blaming the other a claiming victory. latest from capitol hill, we find phil mattingly. who are the winners and loser in this. >> 104 democrats in the house voted against this proposal and while they are not all homogeneous, it was largely the daca issue and largely the trust deficit that exists. nothing should have moved forward without a clear promise
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that house should take up without a clear movement forward. those are real problems. you are hearing from the activist, and hearing it from the base and a lot of democrats. this wasn't a good deal. you look at what this deal brings to the table. that is a win that chuck schumer says a win. republicans didn't necessarily give up any major leverage or make promises they didn't think they could keep and they re-opened the government with the same bill they put on the table on friday night when everything shut down. this wasn't exactly a glorious moment in the history of the institution. the real question is do short-term victories equal long-term gains. do democrats end up better in the long run. those questions not likely to
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get answers for a few weeks. >> the reality is that you look at the shear scope of the issues still on the plate. 90 plus billion dollar disaster relief bill. two year budget agreement that raises spending caps on defense that republicans are very interested in getting. the democrats made clear they are not going to sign on to until there is daca resolution. the time line here, they haven't been able to do anything quickly in this chamber or in these chambers in a long period of time. and whether they can do anything now it is open at that. one of the interesting elements is you look at winners and losers, and there are nuances. bipartisan group, 25 senators in the last three or four days made ties or bonds if you will to try
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to push to where there is a resolution. can that serve as a baseline to the institutions moving in a better direction. that is an open question and hearing that from a lot of senators they are hopeful that that might be the case. we have seen groups falling on their face in the past. a lot of people are seizing on if nothing else, maybe that can serve as some type of baseline moving forward. as you noted a lot to do and very little time. we will have to wait to see. >> thank you very much. i want to go to the white house. gym -- jim acosta is there. >> reporter: there was a wall for daca deal that was put on the table the white house rejected it.
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it w telling aides, it was too liberal. the president only spoke with republican leaders up on capitol hill and so he was no longer wheeling and dealing with the democrats. that was left to the senate leaders up on capitol hill, schumer and the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell now from what we understand, some of this was by design, you recall, anderson, all weekend long we never saw the president, it was sort of the art of the conceal and that was by design we are told. they didn't want the president to be associated with the shut down. they did not want to think the president when they were watching it unfold and that is why the president stayed under wraps. >> moving forward will the president work with both parties to avoid another shutdown with both parties. >> he did that today. he met with a group of republicans and later senator
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manchin and doug jones. they didn't get a whole lot done there. a meet and greet session for jones and the president. however, it is an indication that the president is willing to meet with senators from both parties moving forward. the question is whethe the white house is asking too much from democrats. i talked to various sources in the administration today who said that a wall is simply not enough to get a deal to protect the d.r.e.a.m.ers from deportation. it has to be a wall plus other items like ending the diversity lottery system, or chain migration. consider this, i talked to one senior administration official who said quote, a wall does not equal border security end quote. and the president essentially is listening to his aides people like steven miller and the white
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house chief of staff, john kelly. considering last friday, and the question is at this point can they get to a point where both sides get to a deal to protect d.r.e.a.m.ers, it is going to be a wait and see process. >> thanks very much. angus king voted yes, he joins us now. can you explain what changed in your view from friday night and today. republicans saying they didn't cave to any demands. and democrats are saying this is a win for gop. >> we got a firm commitment on the floor before the entire country from the majority leader to bring a daca bill to the floor in a neutral format. i think the term he used was a level playing field and that is a first. talks about yeah, we will do it someday, but date certain,
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february 8. this is the second time that the immigration bill has been on the floor in the united states senate. getting that commitment was important. now the question is will the majority leader honor that commitment. and there is a bipartisan group that i met with all weekend. there is a group of republicans there who are committed to making something work here and that is additional pressure on mitch mcconnell. >> republicans say there was always going to be a bill. >> i think that commitment was important. last night i wasn't satisfied he said sort of vague, today it was much more implicit. he talked about a vehicle, a
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level playing field vehicle. it was a more explicit commitment. and that is what i think made the difference. this is not a small deal. people are saying, i heard one of your reporters saying we can't guarantee what the house is going to do. you can't. that is not how this place works. the best thing we can do in terms of the house is get a bill that passes by 60 or 60 votes and then we have the president's attention and the house's attention and that is what we are trying to do. i was in a bipartisan meeting with a dozen senators on both sides starting to work on the border security issue. the wall does not equal border security. i have been saying that all along. we are trying to find what the formula is for true border security. >> what the white house is saying, they are not just talking about the wall, but
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about chain migration and other things like that. >> this is not comprehension immigration reform. this is daca and border security. and if they try to broaden the discussion, it is going to unwieldy and unpopular to bring the coalition. start talking about all of these other issues. if they start loading it up, it is going to be impossible. the president said he wants a solution to daca and wants it bipartisan. >> the meeting two weeks ago, the president seemed to agree with senator feinstein about doing daca and what he termed comprehensive immigration reform.
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when republican kevin mccarthy jumped in, he seemed to side with the republicans and then go back to the democrats. >> the president should try to narrow his position and make it clear. mitch mcconnell on the floor this past week said i can't vote on anything or bring anything on the floor until i dretermine wht the president is for. basically mitch mcconnell separated himself from the president and said we are not waiting anymore for the white house to settle on a position. on february 8, if we haven't been able to resolve it through internal discussions which is what we are trying to do starting two hours ago, if we are not, we are going to bring a bill to the floor. >> i appreciate your time. thank you very much. we will hear from a congressman who voted no and has concerns. . also a porn star who is trying
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president trump still has not signed the bill and that should happen any moment. joining me congressman. i think that the dysfunctional way to run government is like paying your rent every week as opposed to the end of the month. a dysfunctional way of running government and it is about the opioid drug epidemic, and not only giving chip. it is about disaster relief. none of these issues were addressed. obviously, the d.r.e.a.m.ers were left out one more time and i felt compelled to vote no. >> do you think the democrats given up a certain amount of
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leverage and believing that a deal on daca is down the road. >> i am concerned the republicans will resort to this kind of tactic to create a crisis. and score cheap political points. so i am concerned about that. but the d.r.e.a.m.ers are, the issue of the d.r.e.a.m.ers are meritorious on their own and the rank-and-file members of the senate and the house of representatives have worked hard to bring forward proposals that the president has not taken up and it is as sichl mple as that. so we are concerned the president is not invested in this. he will come forward on the state of the union and of course leaving 800,000 d.r.e.a.m.ers out in the cold. >> your colleague said that senate democrats were quote getting their butts kicked.
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will you agree with that term? >> well the pendulum may have swung a different way today. we will live to fight another day. we are concerned that the promises that were made are true promises. this is my first year but i learned quickly many promises are not kept. i am concerned on the eighth we will lead to another assault against d.r.e.a.m.ers. equating immigrants and d.r.e.a.m.ers to violent criminals. how vile is that. fanning the flames of racism. i am here to fight for the d.r.e.a.m.ers. and we will be waiting again on the eight8th and see what happe again. >> because mitch mcconnell made this publicly and his language
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was not as divisive rhetoric, he felt more confident that he will come it a deal or dealing with this. >> there are debates that show no commitment to resolving the criticals needs. i met with a group of d.r.e.a.m.ers. if you see them and see what they stand for, their aspiration, their energy and love for this country, you can't say no to them. they got caught up in this debate about whether or not government will be shutdown. it is unfair to them and their families. >> i appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> thank you so much. >> i want to talk about this with our panel. ana, you heard the congressman, did this accomplish anything in your view?
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>> i think it brought the issue to the forefront and highlighted the urgency of the issue. it has shown us the faces and the stories of d.r.e.a.m.ers. we have seen the stories of people getting deported and separated from their children. what it is doing to the american families and american way of life. it is highlighted urgent issue that needs to be addressed. also showing the horrible -- it showed that chuck schumer could take a position and could hold it for two days. you know, i think it has shown us a lot of things. but we don't know what the end game is going to be yet. >> robbie, is it a mistake for democrats to go along with this? >> i am as frustrated as anybody out there.
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lunacy that we are leaving these d.r.e.a.m.ers. we are in a lunatic situation. if what we really care about here is getting policy passed, we took a step in the right direction. a few days ago, we weren't getting this vote. and hopefully now there is going to be a vote and it will pass and political pressure to force the president to sign. this is not an ideal position but as democrats we need to step back and recognize the incredibly difficult situation that chuck schumer was in and applaud these senators for holding the line and moving the ball down the field. >> is that what was done? >> i don't see that at all. what this showed was that the
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democrats are more interested in illegal immigrants that people in the military and our workingmen and women. republicans have done this in the past and republicans got their head handed to them. ted cruz did it in the past. and the public said no. don't do that. if you have a problem with immigration or obamacare deal with it. be adults. the democrats did not learn that message. what they found out is the american public said no. we don't gagree what you are doing -- >> it is more complicated than
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this. putting illegal immigrants ahead of the working men and women and ahead of the men and women of arms forces. the type of people for whom we need to find a solution. people may not like the shutdown but the irony and the juxtaposition what made it complicated is they approve of the d.r.e.a.m act. most people see d.r.e.a.m act kids as a special category within undocumented immigrants. they came here through nor fault of their own. not their own action nor own decision. and now they are americans in every way but one. does this country have the heart, do republicans have what it takes to see families separated and then lecture us about family values. to see employers left without employees and lecture us without
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business. to see schools empty of students and lecture us about education. >> you are missing one very important point. the bottom line is the people who are here illegally, are here illegally. we break up families all the time when people commit illegal acts. and the reality is you mentioned -- >> but senator santorum. >> those have an opportunity to gain citizen under the law. there are pathways for people going forward and what republicans are asking for, what donald trump is asking for is something very, very reasonable and so far the democrats have been unwilling to move forward. four things, four things that the democrats have voted for time and time again. border security, end of the visa
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lottery, chain migration to be limited. put together these four things not 20 other things. >> why haven't the democrats -- >> before you respond i have to take a break. i am going to talk over you. we are going to continue this in a moment. we will take a break and be right back with the panel.
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breaking news the shutdown ending. congress approved the deal to keep the government funded. robby, back to you. >> what senator santorum was pushing this argument that the gop pushing all day was that the democrats only care about immigration. the reason why this is so important is because the president ended the program. he could have left this daca in place which by the which everybody supports and we wouldn't be having this fight.
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these shallow arguments on both sides need to stop. so much these senators have in common and we saw them working together. let's stop all of these silly games. i don't care who won the shutdown fight. we might get the policy this country needs and wants. >> wasn't it a court that declared what president obama was not constitutional? >> i am sure president trump could have done something to save this. he is having it both ways. and changing his tune every day. let's remember too, the senators came to the president with a bipartisan agreement on this exam he was the one who blew it up because he couldn't control his mouth and made racist statements. he is the real problem here. and we should be proud that a bunch of our senators stood up. >> senator santorum is it clear
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to you how much president trump was involved. was this white house victory or mcconnell victory? >> when you have a winning hand, you hold your hand. there was no reason for the president to go out and negotiate against himself. there was no reason for the president to go out and do anything other than stand his ground and say we will deal with this issue separately. not going to include this in the spending package. i agree something needs to be done on this issue. i also want to point out the president was following the law unlike president obama who didn't follow the law when it came to these d.r.e.a.m.ers. the reality needs to move and if you would, my suggestion is that paul ryan and the house get a bill, do the four things that president obama has said he wants to do. put those four things in a package and send it to the house
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and show they are willing to pass the bill. get it to the senate and let them deal with it. >> ana, do you think it was a mistake, the democrats would have been blamed for this shutdown if it went down longer? >> look, i'm not sure if it was a mistake or the right thing to do. but for this, there would be no promise from mitch mcconnell to be a vote before february 8 on the daca issue. and it is an issue where the clock keeps counting down. if you are a daca kid right now, you realize you only have six weeks left. they have had six months to deal with since donald trump ended the executive order. whether it was a mistake or not we will know the answer on february 9, february 10. when we know the answer which
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this leads to legislation. peoples' lives are in limbo or whether we -- ask me then. >> robby, i talked to independent senator angus king and be the fact that mitch mcconnell made a public pledge that is what made him decide to vote for this continuing resolution. >> the senators obviously know him better than i would. i don't trust him that much. but i do trust the senators on both sides that are saying that they believe he will keep his word. i think ana had this exactly right. we will know in early february if this was a good deal to make. given all the information today this was the right choice for schumer, the right choice for the democrats. and americans should hold the majority leaders' feet to the
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fire. what is remarkable is that everybody agrees on this. we should be possible to pass this. >> one republican senator -- is the senator's criticism fair? what we know about mr. miller next. when you look at the mercedes-benz glc... with its high-tech cameras and radar, contemporary cockpit, 360 degree network of driver-assist technologies and sporty performance what's most impressive about the glc? all depends on your point of view. lease the glc300 for $449 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing.
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more on our breaking news, republicans and democrats passing a bill on capitol hill to keep the bill running until february 8. this was the first shutdown ever when one party is in control. graham wasn't shy in laying some of the blame on the white house. >> the reason we yank these things back is because mr. miller, i have known him for a long time. i know he is passionate and an early supporter of the president, but i will tell you his view of immigration has never been in the mainstream and we will never get there as long
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as we embrace concepts that cannot possibly get 60% votes. press secretary pushing back. we are doing our best to carry out what the president has laid out. and steven is no different on that front than anyone else. that is how the white house sees it. but no one will dispute miller is not shy. >> reporter: the man at the center of the immigration battle who seems like he is always ready for a fight. >> one of the most outrageous, insulting and foolish thing you have said. >> reporter: found the ultimate national platform. after the 9/11 attacks, he penned -- wasn't patriotic or
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not. in that same article, miller co complained about rampant political correctness. >> i would say and i will do things that no one else in their right mind would say or do. >> reporter: all of this it seems just a dress rehearsal for his next stop, duke university. writing for the duke chronical miller sounded the alarm for immigration. at duke, miller also made a name for himself in the national media by speaking out in support of the duke lacrosse players in a racially charged rape case. >> nothing seems to be changing. >> reporter: the lacrosse players were eventsly exonerated. after graduating, miller moved
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to washington d.c. miller helps sessions derail an immigration deal by distributing a handbook packed with talking points to help kill the bipartisan effort. in washington miller connected with steve bannon who gave him entry into donald trump's orbit. miller on the world stage crafting trump's speech, accepting the republican nomination. >> i hum bly and grateful accep your nomination. >> reporter: after a federal judge struck it down miller suggested the judge had no right to question the president's authority. >> the whole world will see as we begin to take further actions that the powers of the president to protect our country are very
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substantial and will no the be questioned. >> reporter: asked if miller has veto power. >> the only person i am aware of that has veto power is the president. >> no, you can be con did desce. >> reporter: all in a day's work for the kid from santa monica. let's go to chris cuomo on what is coming up. >> tonight we are going to do it different. we have the big shot from the white house returning kellyanne conway. she is going to be asked to do something she has never done on tv before. >> what's that? >> whoa, that is the tease, my
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over the weekend as the senate was wrestling with the shutdown. the chairman was meeting with key members in the house. releasing a classified memo about alleged fbi abuses. those abuses republican says resolve around the steele dossier. chairman deven nunez wants some of the memo to be declassified. he may have made unauthorized
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disclo disclose yours of -- >> you have seen this memo. but generally, how would you characterize it? >> the memo, it harkens me back to benghazi where there was an effort to come up with all of these conspiracy theories on how there had been a stand down order and people deliberately acted poorly. that is what this is. the latest installment in this one-man operation. all in service of calling into question bob mueller's investigation and trying to provide some, any substantiation to the crazy charge of so long ago that the obama administration was somehow spying or wiretapping the trump
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campaign. >> what do you say to that? >> i would say that it is partisanship at its worse. many people years from now will look back on the damage they did to the fbi and the doj based on no evidence. and the reason i say no evidence anderson s because the memo is based on highly, highly classified things. so highly classified, but that certainly your average member of congress has not seen. so inasmuch as members of congress are out there making confident assertions, what they're doing is putting their credibility at risk because they haven't seen any of the underlying evidence which does or does not suppose the talking points, the allegations that compromise this memorandum. and, look -- >> wait. they don't even know what they're talking about? >> they have not seen the evidence which underlies the talking points, the allegation in this memorandum. so they have no basis to know
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other than devin nunes' personal opinion that there is any truth to these charges because they have not seen the underlying classified information. >> some of your colleagues are calling for full transparency. what's the harm in releasing a redacted version of the memo? >> well, i actually would support that. look, i'm not a big fan of putting out republican talking points where there isn't an ability to ability for people to look at the underlying classified information. but if it's anything like the four-page memorandum, which a quick reading -- you know, the thing just kind of reeks of poor work, of bad logic. i imagine they'll clean it up, but if you can see the actual memorandum, you would see that in the very first line of the memorandum, there's something said that is obviously untrue. so, you know, i think it's important -- i'm always a fan of transparency. i think it's important that this get out of here. then i think it's important for the fbi, whose reputation is being damaged, who is being dragged -- the fbi, these are
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people who keep us safe, whose lives are on the line. they are being used as a political tool by devin nunes and the conservative press to try to damage mueller's investigation. i think it's really important for them to find a way to rebut what i think are fundamentally rebuttable charges. >> does it make sense the fbi's request to get a copy of the memo was declined? >> it's interesting you say that because that should tell you something. you know, if you make an accusation against somebody and then you say, you can't even see the accusation, that should tell you something. there's a reason in court that you put accusers in front of defendants, so that you can have it out. so the very fact they won't let the fbi see this memorandum -- and i know why. it's because that memorandum is so flimsy, is so pathetic in the allegation it draws, that the fbi would have to get over classification challenges but they'd make quick work of saying this is flat out wrong. the fact they're not making it available to the fbi should tell
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it may come as no surprise that the woman at the center of an alleged affair with donald trump is beginning to cash in on the publicity. her first appearance in south carolina coming as a liberal watchdog group filed two complaints today saying an alleged cash payment to her by a lawyer for mr. trump violated campaign finance laws. we asked intrepid brian todd's to report on stormy daniels' first public since the storm began. >> reporter: tonight stormy daniels is capitalizing on her alleged affair with donald trump but not revealing details about it. >> it's the trophy club on the heels of stormy's national publicized alleged affair. >> reporter: daniels appeared at this strip club in greenville, south carolina, over the weekend. the owner won't tell us how much he paid her or how much he made, but he said he booked her as soon as he saw published reports on the alleged affair. >> there's no politics involved. i happened to be dumb lucky with when it's happened.
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>> reporter: daniels made a quick getaway after her performance and would not talk to journalists about her alleged sexual encounter with trump reported by in touch magazine and "the wall street journal." but she was quoted as saying her life since the story broke has been stressful and amusing. stormy daniels has had a long career as a porn star. >> i'd be willing to show you around. you'd be surprised at how much there is to do around here. >> reporter: and even a potential senate candidate. but "the wall street journal" says that shortly before the 2016 election, she was paid $130,000 by trump lawyer michael cohen to stay silent about alleging a sexual encounter with donald trump in 2006. cohen has never denied making the payment. and tonight there is new information about a reported attempt to cover up her claim of an affair. in 2011, michael cohen threatened to sue "in touch weekly" magazine if it published their interview with her according to four former magazine employees who spoke to
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the associated press. in touch never published daniels' allegations of an encounter with donald trump at a golf resort in nevada until now. before the associated press story broke, cnn asked in touch's new editor why it was held for seven years. >> why wasn't it published before, i can't really speak to. in fact, i don't have the answer. >> reporter: one trump biographer isn't surprised that his lawyer reportedly threat nds to sue the magazine. >> he has a long pattern of going after people legally, mr. they've criticized him, whether it's someone who has some embarrassing information about him. he uses threats, lawyer letters, actual lawsuits all to control the message. >> reporter: michael cohen did not get back to us regarding the associated press report that he threatened to sue in touch magazine. the magazine's representatives told us they would not comment on that report, but cohen has previously denied that the affair took place. and vice president mike pence has just told the associated press that the reports about the alleged affair are, quote, baseless.
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anderson. >> thanks very much for watching 360. time to hand it over to chris cuomo for "cuomo prime time." >> thank you, anderson. everybody is celebrating, but tell me, who won? the gop? first shutdown ever with one party in control of congress and the white house. a band-aid that ensures we do this again in three weeks. the democrats? what did they get? a promise of good intentions. is that helping d.r.e.a.m.ers sleep better tonight? i'm going one-on-one with kuns lore to the president, kellyanne conway. she says the democrats made the right deal. let's see if she can prove it. it is time to get after it, my friends. i'm chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." breaking news tonight, shutdown delayed. both sides approved a spending plan to keep the government running, but just for three weeks. i guess that buys democrats and republicans more time to strike a deal on