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that's what those results that i just readout to you show. >> crime wave? we agree we don't want crime. >> they're part of a crime wave, absolutely. i don't think you can completely separate the two. they are a part of domestic violence. i think it certainly would be part of a crime wave that we are focused on addressing. and you can see some of the things that we've done since taking office. >> tell americans how he feels about this issue and try to do what he can with the bully pulpit to -- >> i think he has, peter. i'm sorry. hold on. i was polite and letting you finish. >> i'll listen. >> let me be very clear on this. the fact that you're basically accusing the president of being complicit in a school shooting is outrageous. >> i'm not -- his advertisement that accuses the democrats of being complicit on a different topic. i'm not accusing the president of anything. >> ignoring the fact that the safety and security of our borders is very different. the president has been very clear and instructed the top law enforcement agency in this
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country to crack down on crime and to do everything they can to prevent these types of things. we've talked about it here numerous times and we're going to continue moving forward in that process. thanks, guys. >> 00% willing to speak with mueller? >> let's start there. i know we have to get to the russia investigation. i know we've got to get to immigration. let's start with what happened in kentucky yesterday. this 15-year-old comes into this school and so many people were injured. there were deaths. again it's an excellent question. david chalian, from peter over at nbc about where is the president on this? why doesn't the president come out and publicly acknowledge that gun violence in our nation's schools and churches and theaters and what have you, and do something about it? where is he? >> right. whatever sarah sanders can point to of having the justice department get a review going, that's not going to satisfy the
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questio question. >> no. >> that peter was getting at. there is no answer. the president has clearly not made this a top priority polish of his administration. peter was right to note what the comments were back at the time of the las vegas shooting that that wasn't the time but there's been plenty of time since. the real answer is we've not seen this president create this as a center policy priority. >> what do you make of it? >> i think one of the things that's very shocking about all of this is how it has become an ordinary thing, day in and day out. and the fact that it's not getting addressed gets harder to understand by the day. but how many school shootings have we had? how long does this go on? i remember columbine, when it was a huge story and we all thought it would be different.
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then we had connecticut. and it's just, i think, remarkable, that we haven't. >> seeing far too many times dealing with these shootings. it's for another day and another discussion we should have. but it is something we should hear from the president. i'm just going to say that. let's move on to immigration. sarah sanders saying the white house will release, what did she call it, legislative framework, demands, on monday. from one of the questions there from the press pool it sounds like they had talked to some members of congress in developing this framework. what do we know about this framework that's going to be announced monday? >> first, let's look at the calendar and see what monday is, the day before the state of the union address. this is the conversation that they want to put, to sort of tee up the president's big speech on tuesday, to have this framework
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out there in advance of that. perhaps that's a little hint of what we may hear from him on tuesday. i would also note, you are right, they spoke with house republicans, senate republicans and chatted with democrats as well as part of this. and the key point that the notion is they're going to try to put something out that they believe can satisfy both house and senate concerns, i can't wait to see what that is. because house and senate republicans are in such different places on this issue that it is very hard to imagine that one document from the white house is going to solve what has been an issue that has been tearing apart the republican party for the better part of a decade. >> and you're so right to point out, this is the day before the state of the union. jamie, you jumped out and said nobody knows where the president stands on d.r.e.a.m.ers and he has just been on the phone and he wasn't a central figure in this negotiation down on capitol hill. this puts him in a position of strength. >> absolutely. if he succeeds, as david said, it's the immigration miracle.
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what have we been talking about? four factions, five factions in all of this. look, donald trump likes to be what, the deal maker in chief, the negotiator in chief. we've been talking, since the shutdown, that it didn't look like it was going to go in place. he has been criticized for being quiet in the white house and not doing anything. remember the picture coming out where he's sitting on the desk with the hat on making the call that people thought looked a little posed. this is what he likes to do. he's saying, no, you're not -- you're all wrong. i am doing something. and surprise, surprise, monday, as david said, the day before, he's going to have the solution. >> lastly, david, and then we're going to go on this russia investigation and, yes, we broke the news, sara murray and team that steve bannon will be the
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next to be questioned by robert mueller. we still have the white house spokesperson standing at that podium and saying this whole thing is a hoax. what planet are they on? >> saying it emphatically. they are definitely on a different planet than house and senate republicans and democrats on committees investigating this. mueller's entire team and fbi agents. none of those people would say this is a hoax for the most part. the president is on a bit of an island here. what was so interesting in sarah sanders' exchange with maggie haberman, our colleague and contributor of "the new york times," when pressed it reminded me that the president spoke about this at a press conference almost a year ago. is she denying anything that the campaign did at large or is she just denying the president's action and knowledge? she separated out for a moment saying speaking that the president did nothing or knew nothing about this. that's what she is claiming. that was a very interesting answer to me, that she didn't
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completely sort of circumscribe her response with the campaign. >> separated the president out of there. noted. thank you, david chalian and jamie gangel. if you are just joining us on this -- wednesday? wednesday. one of those weeks. sources saying special counsel robert mueller as i mention aid second ago, plans to question former white house chief strategist steve bannon about the fired fbi chief james comey and national security adviser michael flynn, according to sources. also sources say mueller wants to ask the president himself about both flynn and comey. my next guest is someone who has questioned the president, someone in the late '90s. solomon eisenberg, attorney in
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the clinton, monica lewinsky case. the fact that comey and sessions have been questioned and plan to question bannon by the end of the month. >> i think it may be an indication that things are wrapping up for the heart of the investigation. but it's very speculative at this point. very difficult to say. >> tough to say. maybe wrapping up. of course, the big fish at the end of this, presumably, is the president of the united states. we know that the president's lawyers will likely push for, we've heard, written aurs answers, according to sources to cnn. i imagine mueller's team went bite on that, right? they want him eyeball to eyeball n a standoff over an interview, solomon, what are the leverage points for each side? >> great question. no way mueller's team will
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accept only written responses. mueller's team will say we want to question you. then the president and his attorneys will have to make a decision. they can say for sure you can question me and let's talk about the ground rules or the president can say pound sand, in which case mueller will issue a dprand jury subpoena. then the president will decide whether or not, a, he goes to the grand jury and testifies. almost certainly not. b, he invokes his fifth amendment privilege against self incriminati incrimination, which doesn't sound quite as crazy as it did when people first started talking about it or c, he says to mueller, kind of like bannon did, okay, since you subpoenaed me i'll go and have an interview with you. >> let's picture the room. you have the president, presumably his lawyers present in the room. mueller and his team. does mueller do the questioning or is it someone on his team and mueller pipes up here and there?
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>> the person leading that particular phase of the investigation will do the questioning with mueller obviously having the ability to jump in. mueller, unlike a lot of people who are u.s. attorneys or special counsel, actually has a tremendous amount of law enforcement experience. so, he would be fully capable of doing it. the real key about an interview, if president trump has decided i'm not going to invoke the fifth amendment, you really want that interview to be informal so that ty cobb can be in there, maybe john dowd, too, can be in there with the president. as a person who sat in many interviews with clients there's a lot you can do as an attorney to protect your client in such an interview. if, for example, bob mueller asks a question that's ambiguous, you can say, hold on a minute, bob, do you mean this or do you mean that? if your client, in all innocence, gives an answer and has left something out that he knows he has left out intentionally, you can say wait a minute, mr. president.
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you forgot about this. this is something that happens all the time when clients go in to be interviewed, usually after they've pled guilty. and the role of the attorney is very well prepared by ty cobb. >> let's get to it, solomon. you were kind enough -- we asked you to come up with key questions that if you were a lead investigator or mueller himself would ask the president. were you mad at comey's handling of the clinton e-mail probe? why is that key? >> well, i don't know that it is key. because, based on the public record i've seen, i don't think there is much of an obstruction case, unless there are things that mueller knows about that we don't, which is quite possible. i thought that was an important question because the president
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has indicated that he was mad at jim comey's handling of the e-mail investigation. do you think he went too easy on mrs. clinton or went too hard? i actually think -- if i'm not jumping ahead, i think the most important question to ask the president is did you tell anybody, any of your people, to repeat or to give any false story to federal investigators? to me it doesn't matter how many false statements the president made -- i'm not saying he made. >> sure. >> but how many false statement he made public ly or his people made publicly. the question under obstruction law is, did you make false statements to federal investigators? that's the most important question, i think. >> but solomon, to your point about you don't think there hch of an obstruction case -- you're the pro when it comes to this kind of thing. don't you remember the interview the president gave to lester holt who acknowledged i wanted comey go because i wanted this
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russia investigation to essentially go away. >> i believe that is almost completely irrelevant because he has the constitutional authority. he's not above the law but has the constitutional authority to fire comey. so the fact that he's firing him because he thinks comey is getting too close to him, to me, is not criminal obstruction of justice. congress might want to impeach him for it but it's not criminal obstruction of justice. let me tell you, i've seen people on tv, my counterparts, people are all over the block on this. i know the case law is not rock solid. there are some appellate level cases that indicate it's enough if you have a corrupt intent, even if you're doing something that's otherwise lawful. i disagree with those. in all of those cases there was incredibly deceitful criminal activity involved. i don't believe that proposition
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holds water. there are two supreme court cases, not directly on point, but they seem to indicate that to have criminal obstruction, you've got to have some kind of deceit of investigators, some independently criminal activity. so the law is unsettled. nobody knows for sure. i don't think there's a case based on what i've seen. >> okay. and another question you gave to our producers for the president that you would ask. did you know justice department attorneys had already told sessions that rules h s mandates recusal? >> that's of some importance. if the president knew -- let's say some department of swrus ethics attorney said, you know, under this federal regulation or statute, you've got to recuse yourself and the president knew that and went ahead and had somebody asked ag sessions to recuse himself, you may be getting closer in that
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circumstance. the most important question still is what instructions did you give to people, if any, to tell a fake story to law enforcement? i do think a very important question would be did you hear about any of these russian offers of dirt during the campaign, having dirt on hillary clinton? and, if so, what, if anything, did you do to indicate that you wanted that dirt delivered to you? that's obviously a relevant question. there's a law that forbids knowingly and willfully relying on aid from a foreign government during a campaign. even that law requires that you know you're violating election law when you do that. >> these are all excellent questions. solomon, please come back. i wish i had more time with you but i have a feeling we'll learn more about this potential
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scenario. thank you for joining me. >> sure. a sitting congressman who admits he called a female aide his soul mate and wrote her a letter, referring to her as his complete partner. he settled that claim she made against him. still the republican party says it's too early to tell if they'll support his re-election. former doctor for usa gymnastics sentenced up to 175 years in prison for one of the largest child sex abuse cases in history. dozens of young women who came forward are finally getting justice. >> there's a lot of grief that is mixed with a lot of victory. i think victory is a good word for it. >> i'm at a loss for words. i've been crying all day. i'm so happy. >> you said little girls come back to destroy your world. you think you accomplished that? >> yeah. he's going away for a really long time. he's not practicing medicine
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i am angry today. i am angry that a monster got away with abusing young girls for decades. a doctor, a trusted adult, a master conman larry nassar. i'm angry because he got away with it. he got way with treating his young girls by sliding his fingers into places. these national heroes we gather around the tv to watch every four years, these young women were treated with anything less than the utmost respect. it makes me sick. after rachel denhollander came forward and thanks to these investigative journalists who did not relent, and the 37,000
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vile images uncovered, 166 impact statements in this michigan courtroom, thanks to these women about what happened under towels, in gyms for years, finally this monster is getting the justice he deserved. add it all up, 175 years in prison. and it is just a reminder, if i may, to everyone watching as the assistant district attorney so poignantly pointed out, so many victims of sexual abuse have to hide their pain when they did absolutely nothing wrong and when victims come forward and are criticized they often are perceived as liars when proven true. i don't want to be angry about these cases anymore. we have to speak up. we mustn't be nice and keep quiet all the time. we must be brave. judge rosemarie aquilina saying it was a pleasure to put him behind bars to sign his death
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warrant, as she put it. a powerful summation of the brave testimony we all watched live. >> this court heard from several women some decades later who were initially determined to be confused or to be liars. he was believed over these children. what does it say about our society when victims do come forward and are automatically met with skepticism, doubt, treated as liars until proven true. with each time he got away, he was empowered to continue and perfect and abuse even more. we have seen the worst of humanity and the best in these past few days. the pain and destruction caused by evil, selfish takers like this defendant. but we have also seen how one voice can start a movement, how
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reckoning can deliver justice, how a community can can support and empower and start healing. >> would you like to withdraw your plea? >> no, your honor. >> because you are guilty, aren't you? are you guilty, sir? >> i have set my plea exactly. >> you have not yet admitted what you did. you still somehow think you're right, that you're a doctor, you're entitled, you don't have to listen and that you did treatment. i wouldn't send my dogs to you, sir. you do not deserve to walk outside of a prison ever again. you have done nothing to control those urges and anywhere you walk, destruction will occur. to those most vulnerable. my page only goes to 100 years.
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sir, i'm giving you 175 years, which is 2100 months. i've just signed your death warrant. >> with me now, ashleigh banfield, hln host of "crime and justice with ashleigh banfield." i'm sure you were as riled up as i was watching this whole thing, especially today. but this judge -- this judge, how unprecedented was that? >> it was remarkable. i think it went on for over 45 minutes, the dressing down of this defendant. but i think there was something going on that might have been bigger. and that was the movement. in her words -- and i'll paraphrase because i could never match what she did -- this is something that has hit the headlines because of the work of brave young women, journalists who were dogged and the system
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itself, which she said is a great american system of justice. we're all hoping, brooke that we don't have to be as angry as you are, as we all are. because of this, women and young girls might actually speak up more, might be believed because there's action, real action. >> so a total of 175 years. >> uh-huh. >> has he gone away forever and ever amen? >> hardly unlikely he will ever see the light of day. he has the federal sentence for the porn charges. he will never walk freely again. the judge is right when she said i just signed his death warrant. i have to say there's nothing like cheering on a judge who finally just hands it to someone like this. >> yeah, she did. >> at the same time, part of the reason the american system of juris prudence is so good is because we are reserved and we are meticulous and definite. we deal with facts and facts alone and there's supposed to be
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a dispassionate way of asserting yourself from the bench. i was a little worried that this could be an appellate issue. i don't think it will be. look, you can try to get on the record with anything but she really did bring a lot of sort of personality into the way she read his own words in that scathing letter. >> the bones in the courtroom. >> there was the applause as she left the bench. for all of those reasons i got a little nervous that this might give ammo to larry nassar to come back at the system to say we aren't thrilled with the way this jurist presided but i think the net effect of what happened was pretty clear. justice was served over and over again. up until now, it has not been. >> ashleigh banfield, thank you so much for popping by. we'll see you on hln tonight. next, republican congressman admits to telling one of his aides that she was his soul mate but insists it was not sexual
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a republican congressman using the word soul mate to describe a former aide who accused him of harassment. he denies harassing the one-time staffer he, quote, developed an affection for and is still running for re-election. here is what kyw was told about the settlement. >> why did you pay her off using taxpayer money? >> bus i wanted her not to walk
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out of the situation once it got engaged with attorneys in a way that was going to be harmful. i paid a severance because of it. i cared about her. >> doesn't that show guilt on your part? >> no, it does not, in my mind. >> the house ethics panel is investigating this congressman. let's talk it over with national political writer for the pennsylvania enquirer, the one who interviewed the congressman and broke this news and also cnn political commentator with us here. congressman who used thousands of taxpayer dollars to settle a sexual harassment claim of his former aide who he tells you was his soulmate. tell me more about what the congressman shared. >> right. he says -- this was his defense of a story that breck over the weekend, "new york times." he was saying that he had developed this affection for this aide because they had
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worked together very closely for a long time and that he had been it acting harshly toward people right around the time of the affordable care act, under a lot of pressure for it. he took her out to ice cream one night, learned that she was in a serious relationship with someone and wanted to express his affection for her in order to keep -- doing that, having it out in the open, they could keep it from becoming something else and something inappropriate and so he expressed that they were soul mates, that he handled the news of her boyfriend poorly and gave her a hug that he says lasted maybe a little longer than it should have that night and later wrote this letter. >> as someone who worked on the hill and i worked closely with the congressman.
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he never referred to me as his soul mate. he wrote a very nice letter when i left as well and it didn't say anything to the effect of i said yes to you but said no to the president and the speaker and spoke very affectionately the way representative meehan did with this aide. he's in his 60s, is married and has three kids and one of his kids works in the congress as a staffer, a committee staffer. so i can only imagine the embarrassment that he has brought on his family by having any kind of affection, calling -- i would hope that your wife was your soul mate not a staffer, female staffer in your office. this is unbelievably inappropriate. and the fact that he used taxpayer money to make this settlement is even worse. in my opinion, that disqualifies him from being a member of congress. and i hope that the people in his district find -- figure out the same thing. >> he's running for re-election.
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we know that. but the fact -- i think the thing that gets me he's admitting, telling jonathan, just talk, talk, talking for 40 or so minutes and this what he's sharing publicly. it make mees wonds me wonder th going on in private behind closed doors in an office if this is what he says publicly. >> and there was a nondisclosure as part of this settlement. the staffer is very upset and her lawyer came out and said he needs to shut up because he's violating the privacy agreement and she doesn't want to relive this nightmare, i'm sure. yet the congressman feels compelled to continue talking about this. it's almost like a nervous tick when you know your guilty and you want to put it all out there and he put out text messages between them and showed the letter he wrote to her. it doesn't make you look any
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better. it's completely inappropriate. i don't know what's go iing on this district but his democrat challenger had to pull out a month ago because of sexual inappropriate actions against him. i don't know what's happening over in that district in pennsylvania but they need to get it together. >> tera, thank you so much. jonathan, thank you very much, with the pennsylvania quirer. we'll come back and check in. we have breaking news now. republican lawmakers escalating attacks on the fbi, claiming there was evidence of, quote, unquote, secret society of agents opposed to the president. we'll dig into those accusations and more. we'll be right back.
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security analyst and former assistant secretary for the department of homeland security. just off the top, mike, hearing that he was questioned, obviously, part of this massive probe, what does peripheral witness mean, by the way? >> well, i mean, i am speculating here but would assume in this case what they're talking about is somebody who is on the edges, they don't believe has any sort of direct information but they want to be thorough in this. so this doesn't surprise me. i like pompeo. i think he's a good fit for the agency and has proven himself to be very good there so far. and i would actually like to think that all of this is going on outside our view. i don't think it's a bad thing that we didn't know it at the time. not have everything publicized. >> just wanted to get that in. escalating attacks on the fbi from a number of republican
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lawmakers, they're saying they've been told of, quote, a secret society of anti-trumpers in the agency's ranks. the claim is allegedly part of new text messages released by two senior fbi officials, robert mueller later removed them from his team. >> i've heard that there was a group of management in the fbi holding meetings off site. all i said was when paige and stroch describe -- i had corroborating potentially. there's a lot of smoke out there is all i'm saying. >> let's talk about the smoke out there and this notion of a secret society within the fbi. your reaction? >> all i'm saying, all i'm saying. once they're pressed on the secret society they read it somewhere. let me make it clear to the
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viewers. we do know there were text exchanges between two fbi agents who were having an affair. those text exchanges included their personal feelings about donald trump before he was president and then -- and also hillary clinton. let's just say they weren't kind to most politicians. the idea that this is a secret society is undermined by the facts and so egregiously undermining of the fbi's bread and butter of what they do, right? we're talking about this case, about trump. 99% of fbi agents are working on protecting you and i, right? and then the third is anyone who has been in law enforcement, public safety, homeland security, will tell you that agents tend to be, let's just say, sort of right of center. it's a much more cautious group of people. they're not hugely progressive. these are people that one would
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say are on the spectrum of politics tend to be on the side that's closer to trump. the idea that there's these level progressives who have infiltrated the fbi, anyone who has worked with the fbi will tell you i haven't seen them. >> mike, to you. this argument that these texts offer the words unvarnished information whereas testimony prepared by a team of lawyers. does he have a point? >> couple of things. first of all, if there is a secret society i hope there's a secret decoder ring or some kind of secret handshake that goes along with it. >> very funny. >> to the point it was just discussed i know a lot of agents and people in the bureau, have a tremendous amount of respect for those people who, every day, as it was just said, are protecting us. i know a lot of them across the political spectrum. those on the right, those on the left. that's the way life is. but as far as what's happening right now, the missing text
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messages of the secret society, when you open up an investigation and you have this broad playing field and it's not a narrow focus -- this is what happens. it ranges all over the place. what we've got a problem with is both sides have a hypothesis or premise that they would dearly love to prove. you can't run an investigation that way. whether it's the house intel committee or anyone else, aside from the mueller investigation, they're chasing a premise. and you can't do that. you have to build your investigation on actual facts rather than speculation. otherwise, the whole thing is shaky. the mueller investigation has an optics problem. if you're in favor of transparency, just look at everything. for the sake of optics, we do need to chase down this issue that we're dealing with, with the fbi and this potential for a
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small group of them to allow their personal political beliefs to invade the agency. >> the premise of which you look at the entire investigation. >> right. >> this whole thing, obviously, has become a shocker, largely political, right? you have democrats just announcing they're going to release this counter memo to the republican fbi rapport. if it were a democratic president attacking the fbi like this, what do you think republicans would be saying? >> i think they would rightfully be very nervous. and criticize it. president trump is their boss, right? it seems weird that the boss is criticizing the fbi. he's the boss, right? for those of us who have been in government a long time, long part of our careers, there is an ethos about protecting the united states that lasts throughout presidents, whether
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they're democrat or republican. for the president to essentially say you're either with me or you're not american, in some ways, right, you're not supporting americas is tremendously scary for the long term. fortunately, i think, the fbi knows better. secondly, i do think this story that came out earlier in the week, that the president of the fbi director wray, who isn't publicly critical of trump and supporters attacks on the fbi, that he was willing to resign based on pressure he was getting from the white house. that had tremendous sort of applause, quiet applause within the fbi because they know that their guy is looking out for them. and that's all that matters. >> sure they did. juliette, thank you. mike baker, good to see you. thank you so much. next here cnn is on the ground in kentucky after that dv stating school shooting. two students were killed. 18 others injured. we'll talk live with a parent who helped dozens of kids take
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president trump now wants to take the lead on white house investigations. tonight a bipartisan group of about 40 lawmakers is meeting to work on a solution. all of this comes as a michigan doctor sits in jail detained by immigration officials after living in the u.s. legally for almost 40 years. jason carroll has the story. >> reporter: a year and a half into their marriage, michelle said she and her husband lucas were looking forward to settling
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into life together. he is a respected doctor, specializing in internal medicine and she is a nurse. neither suspected a knock on their door could end up destroying their lives. >> this is my first marriage, my only marriage. and i didn't see it ever getting ripped apart like this. i said till death and i didn't say until you deported. >> reporter: last tuesday immigration agents arrested him and detained him at the calhoun county jail in michigan. >> i don't know what is going to happen. most of these people were recently arrested. the people in here with different stories and it kind of blew me away. >> reporter: his wife and sister now in a legal battle to bring him home. >> i haven't slept. i haven't eaten. i'm not tired. i just have adrenaline and i am
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going to do whatever it takes to have him be back with us. >> reporter: niec's story began in 1979. his mother escaped communist poland and was granted permission to legally enter the united states. >> that's your mom there in. >> that's my mom. >> eventually their mother got u.s. citizenship and in 1989, niec got permanent status. >> the permanent resident card, it gave us comfort. >> reporter: that broke in when immigration officials determined niec should be detained for offenses committed when he was 17 years old. saying it is the result of two 1992 state convictions for malicious destruction of property and receiving stolen property, both of which are crimes involving moral turpitude. his family said one incident involved damages to a car costing about $100. they say the other one was expunged after he completed a youth training program. now it seems that conviction was
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not completely wiped from the record. >> even though record has been sealed, i.c.e. is able to get access to these old records. they might be the only ones that can access it. >> reporter: niec's past includes driving under the influence in 2008. that case dismissed after he completed probation. in 2013, he was charged with domestic violence involving a previous relationship. he argued it was self-defense. a jury agreed. and found him not guilty. immigration officials did not cite those issues but did say niec came under their scrutiny due to more than a dozen minor traffic violations, including driving without a seatbelt. his family says they are proud americans. they cherish this picture of niec's mother on the day she became u.s. citizen. >> i just wonder what she would be thinking now. >> up in heaven. it is one of the things that breaks my heart. i know she would be like, i
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can't believe after all i worked for and all we did and the man that i see him being now. that this is what's happening. >> reporter: through the tears they hope an immigration judge will allow niec to go back to doing what he did before. living legally here in the united states. >> thank you so much for that. by the way, any moment now we will be getting video in of president trump meeting with mayors from all across the country as a number of them dropped out of this whole discussion. the white house is calling it a political stunt why. did they not want to show up? stand by for that.
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and it was the second school shooting in two days. today we learned the names of the victims. bailey holt and preston cope. a friend of bailey's spoke to cnn about her. >> she was goofy and funny and super sweet. her smile was so contagious. everybody loved her. you see on the news your friends running. and where the shooter was shooting, it was my group of friends. i don't know the shooter personally. i really don't want to either. i would tell him that he hurt so many people. if you're a bully, there's no reason to take other people's lives. i would forgive him, obviously but let him know the pain that he put everybody else through. >> the alleged shooter here also 15 years of age. 15. expected to be charged as an adult as a murderer and 12 additional counts of assault. the grand jury meets february
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13th. that's the latest in kentucky. absolutely horrible. with that, i'm brooke baldwin in new york. we'll send things on washington. the lead with jake tapper starts the lead with jake tapper starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- >> could we be weeks away from the end of the russia investigation?" the lead" starts now. >> he was it's once prescribed as president trump's brain. what will had steve bannon be able to tell robert mueller when he sits down with him? plus, an all out political war as some lawmakers claim a secret society inside the agency working to take down the president. wait, what? then it's likely the worst scandal in sports history. he had almost as many victims as jerry sandusky and bill cosmetic about it and harvey winestein