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vitriol over politics. not for my taste. >> you know, what is for your taste? you are headed to the super bowl? >> my plane leaves in two hours. it is 15 below with the windchill. >> thanks for joining us. i'm rene marsh. >> i'm >> thanks so much for joining us. i'm renee marsh. >> i'm dave briggs. "new day" starts right now. see you tomorrow. christopher wray warning do not release the memo. >> i think the american public wants as much information to be released as possible. >> this process is a sham and it is putting our national security in danger. >> did devin nunes work with anybody in the white house? >> not that i know of. >> he is acting as an agent of the white house. he voted on a document. >> he pressed rod rosenstein whether he is on his team or not. >> there is a pattern of donald
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trump doing this. >> i don't think hope hicks is the issue here. the issue is the president. >> i don't think it would be fair to say this is some sort of smoking gun. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day". it is is thursday, february 1st, 6:00 here in new york. here's our starting line. a public clash is playing out between president trump and top law enforcement officials. in a rare public statement the fbi is expressing, quote, grave concerns about the accuracy of that memo. president trump is in a showdown with two ofs own top appointees. the top democrat is accusing the republican chairman devin nunes of secretly altering that
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controversial memo before he sent it to the white house for review. president trump could decide as early as today to milwaukee it public and questions continue whether nunes worked with the white house on that memo. another important development in the russia investigation, the "new york times" has a report that says special counsel bob mueller is is zeroing in on a potential coverup of that now infamous trump tower meeting between russians and trump campaign officials. remember when the president allegedly dictated awe statement aboard air force one insisting the meeting was about russian adoptions. remember e-mails showed it was about the russians promising dirt on hillary clinton. now the question is did a top aide to the president suggest an intent to obstruct the e-mails, thereby obstructing justice. according to sources, president trump asked rod rosenstein if he was on his team. was this another attempt by mr.
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trump to get loyalty from someone investigating him? we have it all covered. let's again with abby phillip live at the white house. abby >> reporter: good morning, chris. all eyes are on on the white house today about that gop memo and how and when it's going to be released. sources tell cnn that it will be today even though the president's own fbi expressed concerns about the factual accuracy of that memo. overnight, fresh drama unfolded in this ongoing saga. the ranking democrat on the house intelligence committee, adam schiff, accusing gop khaur man, devin nunes, of sending a skrtly altered version of his memo to the white house alleging fbi abuses. >> this is not about the facts. this is about a narrative that the chairman wants to put out, misleading narrative to undermine the if you can, undermine the department, and ultimately undermine bob mueller. >> reporter: schiff writing in a
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letter to nunes that it was materially different than the version of which the committee voted. he called it a strange attempt to on thwart the publication of the memo. >> i asked the chairman did he work with, and i asked all the preliminaries, you know, coordinate, discuss. and he said not to my knowledge. i asked did your staff. and then he became quite agitated and said i'm not answering that. >> did devin nunes work with anybody in the white house on that memo? >> not that i know of. >> he was a member of trump's transition team. he was asked to step aside the committee after rushing to the white house to discuss intelligence related to the probe. nunes was eventually cleared. the memo setting up an unprecedented showdown between
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the president and his hand-picked fbi director chris wray. they asserted they have grave concerns about the material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo's accuracy. they warned it would be extraordinarily reckless to relea released. >> don't worry. 100%. >> reporter: a source tells cnn the white house may release the memo as early as today, possibly with some redactions. it is not clear if it would address concerns about it being incomplete. they informed the president they want to talk about the now
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infamous statement on board air force one. a former spokesperson plans to tell them that hope hicks sat on a conference call that don jr.'s e-mails with the russians promising dirt on hillary clinton will never get out. leaving corallo concerned thhic could be contemplating obstruction on of of justice. in december, fbi director rosenstein was in a meeting in which president trump asked him if he was, quote, on his team. he is the person in charge of the russian probe. he made testimony before congress saying that no one has ever asked him for a loyalty pledge.
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today, president trump is going to be going to west virginia to speak before a gop retreat with lawmakers. again, this gop memo still happening over everything that the president does today and in the hours as we go forward. alisyn and chris. >> abby, thank you very much for all of that. joining taos discuss, cnn political analyst john avlon and counterterrorism analyst phil mudd. before we get into the details of this mist ru republican memo, and there are many new details to get into, president trump is now publicly sparring with his own appointees. so the top republicans, christopher wray, fbi, deputy ag. these are people that he hand-picked. >> right. >> and now he doesn't have faith in. >> this is not trump against some alleged obama-backed deep state. this is trump feuding in public
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with his own appointees leading law enforcement. that speaks to a much bigger problem. because if his own guys are telling him not to do things and he is feuding publicly and throwing them under the bus, is he backing law enforcement, is he at war with it. it is just not loyalty oath we seem to be looking for against the back drop of an increasingly intense situation. >> sparring suggests there are some on both sides. he hasn't even read the memo yet. this is more about his wanting to advance awe cause. phil mudd, give me a twofer. have you ever seen anything like this before? and, two, what troubles you the most? >> what troubles me the most is the president has drawn battle lines. not just between him and some
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officials he selected to help run government. it is between the white house, the executive branch that he in theory runs to say not only are those deep state theories true, we are seeing them phraeul out in the russia investigation. what bothers me here, when there are indictments, and i believe there will be this spring or summer, the republicans doing this, including devin nunes, had set up what that narrative will be. and that narrative will be this is more representation of the deep state. >> yeah. >> we should oppose the rule of law in this country. we should try to undermine whatever indictments follow. but the way, the one time i have seen this in this country. 1950s, when people in congress said there is another deep state, couple mists, and that proved to be wrong and ripped the country apart for years. >> the point phil is making about a narrative is very important. that is what gets propagated on
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partisan media channels. you saw it in certain lines in the state of the union. if the end game isn't to undermine, under cut or delegitimize the investigation into the president, those battle lines are in people's minds. >> i want to ask a question about this memo. we have new information about it. so devin nunes altered the memo. >> that's what adam schiff said. >> and nunes's people say it. they made little cosmetic changes for grammar. or they altered it a lot, which is what adam schiff's people say for editorial reasons and to water it down before sending it to the white house. either way they altered it. isn't there protocol? we talked to jackie speier about this yesterday. the amount of vetting and the back and forth normally that happens if you are going to release any sort of classified information that goes to the
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cia, the fbi, the white house, back to congress. so they are altering it without doing this protocol. >> it's worse than that. the responsibility of the congress is not just passing laws. they have a responsibility for educate the american people for stuff that is so complicated people like me can't even understand it. you see a conversation from capitol hill saying this is about transparency, showing the american people what we think about deep state activities at the fbi. well, transparency means now the american people who don't follow this stuff like devin nunes does have to sort through a republican memo that went to the white house that was different, a democrat memo and whatever the fbi says about the investigation. to me transparency is four memos. >> and if it's done in the word of transparency, it reminds me of the princess bride. they keep using that word. how is it transparent, john avlon? this was a stumper question last
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night on the on show. so you think that the fisa application was done wrongfully. yes. you think the dossier was used as a basis and shows a nefarious attempt to go around normal reporting. yes. have you seen the fisa application? no. wait. have you seen the application for the judicial proceeding that you are saying was done wrongly? no. but this memo is how i'll get to see it. so you are concluding -- this was steve king, one of the loudest voices. but he's not alone in the gop. so you're saying that you know it was done wrong but you haven't seen -- and the doj officials are offering you something unheard of. we'll come in, answer all your questions about how we did the fisa act. and he says how do you know i can trust them? >> right. so a lot of things are, first of all, thank you for the "princess bride reference. this is not a search for the
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truth. it is about partisan posture. it is something that republicans have always backed more kael except now seem to be shimmying on when it comes to the chief executive sending messages. it doesn't make logical sense. it under cuts the premise. it appears to be the case related to transcripts on devin nunes. the direct question that there was some connection between nunes's staff and the white house and the memo. it dates back to previous incidents. >> may i do my own dramatic? >> please do. >> this is from the house intel committee. it was released monday. when you, as the majority, conceived of doing this memo for release to the body and to the public, in preparation, the thought of doing it, the consultation of it, was any of
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this done after/during conversations or consultations with anyone in the white house? >> that's written by a lawyer. >> he answers i would just answer, as far as i know, no. so he does not know whether he consulted. here we go. congressman quigley says, mr. chairman, does that mean that none of the staff members had any consultation, communication at all with the white house? devin nunes says, i'm not going to entertain a question by eat member. that is not an answer, phil mudd. >> it sure is an answer. we have the most significant investigation under way in this country both at the fbi of individuals at the white house but also at the congress by individuals who earlier were accused of inappropriate contact
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with the white house. they're claiming there was no contact or they don't even know about contact between their staff and the white house. that's laughable. washington, d.c. from the outside looks like a big city. it's not. i guarantee somebody said something to somebody. >> sarah huckabee sanders did they consult, not that i know of on. that's what nunes is doing well. i don't want to go there. sometimes when people refuse to answer tells more than the answers that they give, john. where does it lead? this memo comes out and that's it. the genie is out of the bottle. when some big shot comes on and says i was there for that application and that dossier was a little bit. we had all of these layers and this thing was this thubg, people will have heard it and that's it. >> what it should be about is a search for the truth. in the end, the truth will come
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out. if this is designed to undermine legitimacy of the investigation, to distract and deflect from that progress, that's all they want the initial partisan reinforcement to deepen the battle lines. that is what is is so dangerous on. between the white house, his own administration, fbi, administration. they are saying it would be extraordinarily reckless to release this and the president says he's going to do it anyway. >> 100%. focusing on the initial statement about that 2016 trump tower between between russians and trump campaign officials. here is the new question based on new information. did one and a high profile one of trump's aides try to suppress evidence. facts next.
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president's son about that meeting would, quote, never get out. let's discuss with cnn legal analyst, michael zeldin and carrie cordero. carrie, we'll start with you here. of course point of fact, those e-mails did get out. don jr. released them if we are talking about the same body of information. what is the potential relevance of of that information to investigators? >> well, it's just another indicator that they tried to cover up the purpose and what happened at that june 2016 meeting. mark qaa rollo was the head of the office of public affairs at the beginning of the bush administration. he understands investigations. he understands how the justice department works. and so he's going to be a credible witness, i think, for the mueller team when they interview him. if the story he has to tell if
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there was some effort, we don't know exactly whether or not sort of the way in which hope hicks meant those statements if, in fact, she said them. but certainly the story that he has to tell will indicate that they were trying to in some way hide what went on in that particular meeting. >> so, michael, the question is how do we know what he will say since he hasn't been called before mueller yet. this is based on three sources with knowledge of what he plans to say, we're told. and when he is called in two weeks we think before robert mueller. does it involve intent about what hope hicks meant if she said these e-mails will never get out. and how can we know what her intent was? >> well, i think in some sense hope hicks's line, whether she said it or not, and bob troud
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said she didn't say it, the overarching point is you have three people here who are endeavors to interfere with an investigation by putting out a false narrative about initially what that meeting was about and then continuing that throughout the rest of the summer. and so it shows i think almost more than hope hicks's inept, what the intent of the president was. we talked about this previously. the president is the subject of the obstruction investigation more than anybody else. and when you have to prove obstruction, you need to have a window into the thought process of the potential obstruction because it is is a crime that requires specific intent to obstruct. so this is another window just like the allegations that he attempted to fire mueller in june. this is another indication of what the president's state of mind is.
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and the president's state of mind from the carollo testimony as reported in the "new york times" and from the others is that he's intending to interfere with this investigation by a series of lies to the american public and actions with respect to specific individuals. >> right. with due respect to hope hicks, intent can go lots of different ways. they're going to talk to her. this already did talk to her. they will make their assessments that way. carrie, another window opened up. this one is on the opposite side of the ball. peter strzok, lisa page, the fbi lawy lawyer. it comes out he was fundamental in the drafting of the letter comey put out saying they were reopening the clinton investigation when they found the he mails on anthony weiner's
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laptop. the reporting seems that strzok wanted that open, that he was aggressively pursuing going after the e-mails, he wanted it investigated. but he was against it being made public the way comey made it. what is the significance? >> well, it is is significant, first of all, because peter strzok has been maligned particularly by house republicans for having potential bias. this whole thing, his involvement in the investigation and whether or not there was any type of bias is the subject of didn't of justice, office of independentor general investigation. and so that investigation, those reports are extremely stepsive. the inspector general is very aggressive. and so i think eventually -- those reports usually take a lot of time. but eventually we will understand better the narrative. what's interesting about it is it actually feeds into what traditionally those who have criticized director comey,
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former director comey for doing, which was -- it really seems like they were struggling in the fbi with what to do with this new information around september, october, before the election. and that is understandable. they had a major investigation going on. tradition in the department is not to do things in an investigation or speak about an investigation in a way that would affect an election. and so this is obviously just another indicator that that conversation was ongoing and they were struggling with what to do. some people disagree with the way director comey handled it. it sounds like peter strzok came out differently than portrayed. the maligning of him being a career agent, even if it turns out he did certain things problem particularly with the text messages, we need to reserve our judgment in casting people's entire career into a persians when we don't know the results of that investigation
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yet. >> such a great point, carrie. obviously the picture of strzok is more complicated than people are depicting it. next topic, michael. there is cnn reporting that in this december meeting with the president, president trump asked rod rosenstein, are you on my team? to some ears that is another loyalty test. to some, that's how president trump talks. he would ask that if we talked to him today. he has done this before. you're with me or against me. you're on my team or not on my team. do you hear that as something grossly inappropriate? >> well, i don't know about grossly. but it certainly is counter to the longstanding policies that inform the way the white house and the department of justice are supposed to communicate with one another about ongoing matters. and so we see a pattern of behavior with the white house in
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intervening, if you will, in the department of justice with respect to ongoing matters. remember, the president gave an interview, i think it was wmal radio, saying how he laments the fact that he can't be even more involved with ongoing doj matters. so it seems that either he is just deaf to the realities of on the roll of the white house independent of the department of justice, or he's engaging in a purposeful pattern of intimidation or loyalty, aogts or something that is designed to impact the ongoing investigation. because remember he asked at the time of the on my team request, he asked rosenstein, how's the investigation going? in what way is the direction going? so he is asking for more than are you on my team. he's asking for inside information, if you will, about the investigation. and at the same time, remember,
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he is feeding questions to congress that they are to ask rosenstein in his december house testimony. those questions being reported is whether or not seasonally mueller has a bias bias against him because the president didn't choose him as the interim fbi director. so you see again through this the thought processes of a president who is hell bent on making sure that this investigation is going slow and against him. >> all right. carrie, michael, thank you both very much for all that expertise. so there is a polish-born doctor in new my who has been detained by i.c.e. even though he has been living in the u.s. four decades. today a judge could set him free. we have an update on the story next. how do you win at business?
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the trump administration is extending temporary protected status for syrians living in the u.s. for another 18 months. they have been exempted from deportation since 2012 because of the ongoing civil war in syria. homeland security say syrians who arrived of august 2016 will not be eligible under the new policy. a polish-born doctor detained by immigration officials after living in the u.s. after 40 years, is expected to be are released on $10,000 bond. the michigan doctor was 5 years old when his parents fled poland in 1979. he received a temporary green card and later became a lawful permanent resident. dr. niec had 18 encounters with law enforcement in the past. most traffic. there was a child abuse claim.
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it was investigated and found to be unsubstantiated. his family launched a liam fight to keep him in the united states. a blast of cold air and snow set to invade the northeast. when will it hit? i didn't know we haven't been having a blast of cold air. what's happening, chad myers, in your forecast? >> i know where you are and i know what your feels-like temperature. i know where andy scholes is in minneapolis and what he's going through. we'll take a deep breath. wait until you see his live shot. it feels like 24 below. brought to you by green mountain coffee roasters, packed with goodness. this forecast is not packed with goodness at all. the arctic blast is on the way. it will change. there will be a rain event today in new york to a snow event late tonight. it will be only late tonight. today is really good shape.
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it will rain in the ohio valley, through charleston, west virginia, and the delaware water gap. we will see that rain change over to snow as the cold air comes in. it is one thing after another here. new york city, 31 tomorrow. it will be colder in the morning. that's when roads will get icy. guys, you need to get an "early start" tomorrow in the northeast. it will be a little bit frozen out there. >> all right, chad, appreciate it. got to come with the facts. that he wants how it is. senator joe manchin said we should stand together, work together. you know how the white house paid him back? by sending the vice president down to his home district to attack him and say joe voted no when it mattered to you most. manchin responded by saying this is why washington sucks. we'll take you inside what happened and why next.
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vice president mike pence taking a page from the play back. the vice president attacked the senator five times on twitter with the #joevotedno. manchin fired right back. let's discuss all of this with john avlon and david drucker. here's how manchin fired back. i am shocked that after the vice president worked for almost a year in a divisive and partisan way to take health care away from 2,000 west virginians, bankrupt our hospital and push tax cuts for the wealthiest americans and huge corporations that he would come to west virginia and continue his
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partisan attacks. the vice president's comments are exactly why washington sucks. it was joe manchin who just this week said democrats weren't being respectful during the president's state of the union. >> the fact that he did it on twitter uncharacteristically. multiple times when they are meeting in west virginia. this is coordinated. this is designed to soften up manchin. it is in decent because it goes to a guy who tried to work. the push back, a, he goes after trying to take health care of people. he says the tax cut was about millionaires. playing the class card. a lesson from trump. this is why washington sucks. that's indelible. a strong push back by manchin. >> david drucker, it is just proof of maybe an unwillingness to work with the other side.
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it just shows what you're really about. you play to advantage. you are not planning to work with the other side. >> look, everybody in washington plays to advantage. >> not joe manchin. look what it got him. >> joe manchin is doing what he needs to do to try to get elected in a state where president trump has a 70% approval rating. it plays to his advantage to call out his democratic colleagues and talk about how much he wants to work with the administration. everyone is playing politics here. nothing wrong with that. both sides are trying to pick up a seat, hold say seat. this is the behavior we're going to see. joe manchin has a really tough fight ahead of him. politics has become so tribal. even though he is very well liked, everybody refers to him as he joe. not governor, senator. they just call him joe. it always worked out well for him. it will be a tough test for him. a day after the state of the
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union as the president called for an end to some of the bickering. i suppose the vice president could have waited a week before he did this. but we're going to see more and more of this as we get deeper into the year. >> why wait to show what you're about. >> a decent very val after the hypocritical headline, i guess. but welcome to 2018. >> it is broad shoulder said politicking as vice president pence would say. >> trey dowdy surprised people by saying he is not only leaving congress but politics altogether. this makes him the ninth republican committee chair who is leaving. we have a graphic of the others who announced they are leaving. john, what's this about? >> look, this is fascinating. most republicans who are leaving, and there are a lot, many are cent rifts in swing districts who don't feel like suffering a primary or challenge or being caught up in
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anti-trump. trey dowdy has been a hero as a straight talker, liked and respected by colleagues and has political capital from the right. >> until benghazi. >> but among republicans he is very well respected. that said, the fact his statement was said i prefer to be in a part of my career that rewards and seeks fairness. justice on the aisle, not political. it is forwardly stunning. not only discussing with washington but an oping seat on superior court. it may not be the last we see him of but the last we see in congress. >> all right. that's good. david drucker, john avlon, appreciate it. important developments here. later on, we're going to talk with joe manchin tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern. what does he make now of his bipartisan efforts? republican lawmakers are
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andy. >> reporter: i'm from houston. tom brady, like i said, this is his eighth trip to the super bowl. this is extra special. he grew up in california but his mom's side of the family is from browardville, minnesota, about two hours away from downtown minneapolis. this "bleacher report" brought to you by the new 2018 ford f-150. brady, he says going to browardville is something he's fond of. aunt, uncles, cousins they still live there. there you will find the biggest tom brady shrine. some of his fondest memories as a kid were going to his grandparents's farm. >> it is is very special. i've come here my entire life. since i was baby, i've been coming to minnesota. i love the life here. some of my great of memories as a kid can were coming up here and working cow witness stand my
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grandpa and hanging out in the silos and the haystack above his barn. it's great. i love being here. it is a great state. obviously i love the people. and my mom is here. it's such a special connection. >> a lot of tickets for this sunday's game, alisyn. chris was just giving me a hard time about the weather. i have it for you here. negative 2 degrees outside. i walked three blocks to get to our location here. that was the longest three blocks of my life. >> that sounds horrible. you can cover the whole game right from there. >> get outside! >> i appreciate that, alisyn. >> andy, thank you very much. okay. so coming up, we have the latest on the deadly accident on board the train carrying gop members.
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say what up, rocco. ♪ ♪ ♪ olly. congressmen with medical training jumped into action rendering first-aid to the injured. joining us now are two of those congressman. they are trained physicians.
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gentlemen, so nice to have you with us this morning. >> thank you. >> good morning. >> listen, thank goodness you were on that train. thank god. you never expect something like this to happen, but you two were as well prepared as anybody could be. congressman, can you tell us when you understood your train had hit a truck and when you realized the scope of that accident. >> when we first knew something was up, it felt like we had gone over a boulder. we saw a truck had been hit, a garbage truck. then i heard someone say there's a couple people on the ground. i checked on my family and started to find my way off the train. along the way out on the window i could see a neighbor or someone coming along checking pulses. we then made our best effort to
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get off the train and go and tend to them as quickly as possible. >> and sadly, i know that you tried but were not able to save one of the men in the truck. congressman marshall, what that that like? >> when i got there dr. winstrop and others doctors were with the patient. dr. rowe was trying to find an airway. we initiated cpr and tried for several, several minutes. eventually ems showed up. we tried shocking the patient a couple times. still unsuccessful. kept with cpr. just never really got the gentleman back. >> congressman winstrop, can you just tell us about the scene. you said eventually ems showed up. how long was it until they showed up and how hard was it to get people help? >> you know, they got there actually pretty quickly in my mind. when i got off the train, i
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yelled to the gentleman that i saw checking pulses. i asked him did he get a pulse? he said not on that one. that's the one that dr. marshall was working on with dr. rowe. i went to the other patient. dr. mike burgess was with me as well as several other doctors. he was bleeding from the nose. we were very diligent in trying to make sure that he maintained an airway and that he kept breathing and checking his vital signs. i ultimately one of the spouses on the train is annan she anesthesiologist. she tried to do an intubation. he wasn't sedated but it had a positive effect because he reacted to that. of he gradually was a little more responsive, show unconscious. he left still breathing on his own but facilitated as his airway was maintained. >> it is is just incredible. the stories of what happened on the train are incredible.
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the fact that all of you were doctors. the fact that there was annan she'sologist, a pwraoeft on the train. it just sounds like, you know, for something -- if something horrible had to happen, thank goodness you all were there. congressman, i just need to change path, the course a bit here. i do want to ask about one of the top stories, the memo, republican memo crafted by devin nunes that was september to the white house and maybe released to the public. there are now questions about the changes republicans made before sending it to the white house. do you know what those changes were? >> well, the only thing i was aware of making some grammatical changes and making sure we did not describe someone's job as a national security. i did have a chance to see devin nunes's statement. it speaks for itself. a lot of accusations flying
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around, unform. i want to continue in my role in all aspects of this investigation to just seek the truth and make sure that the american people have the ability to understand what their government is doing. >> listen, the fbi says that the memo does not seek the truth. we have grave concerns about serious omissions of fact. >> christopher wray said it was factual. someone an expert in the fisa court said it was factual. >> when did christopher wray say it was factual because now they don't want to release it because of its accuracy. >> i find it very interesting. i haven't been back to the secure facility to engage in deeper conversations. but i want you to keep in mind one thing. we have subpoenaed the fbi and the doj for months.
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and they have stonewalled on. >> on what? what were you looking for that they have stonewalled you on? >> we asked certain information, and they were not turning it over. some information they said didn't exist and then we found out it did. let's continue to go through the process, get the truth to us and to the american people. because if there's any problems with the processes we have, we have to correct them. that's our responsibility. i feel like we're conducting ourselves very professionally. we have a professional obligation for oversight. keep that in mind too. congress has oversight over doj, over fbi. it's not the other way around. >> congressman, is it fair to say to say at this point you don't trust the fbi? >> oh, i think that the agency itself and members throughout the agency, i have tremendous respect for. you know, in any agency, in any entity, whether it's government, business or

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