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protecting his father. i can only imagine what that situation is like and i'll also say whether you're a citizen or whether you're in government, you have to respect that the president is a commander-in-chief. we have to respect that office. full stop. i don't want to get into politics of it. from a practitioner standpoint throughout the agency, as i mentioned we just want the temperature to come down. if we need to have an important national discussion on certain actions that took place in the fbi it's something we'll certainly welcome. we just want the temperature to come down so we can have an effective dialogue. >> we're sure happy to have you. we're happy to have you tell the story about what the fbi is doing and what it's really like inside there every day. so thank you and we look forward to more analysis from you. >> thanks alisyn. >> we're following a lot of news. let's get to it. the democratic memo puts into context new unseen evidence that bolsters the fib's credibility. >> there is sweet revenge. if they wouldn't have done this, this would be going on at the
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highest levels of government. >> there is a russia investigation without a dossier. i support bob mueller 100%. >> this could precipitate a constitutional crisis if the house republicans believe they've set the stage for this president to end this investigation. >> launching one for the end zone, time runs out. >> to be part of the world championship. we're very blessed. >> we battled but we didn't get the job done. >> i know our fans are the rowdyst in the league. if we don't go back to see rebel. i'm mad. >> this is "new day" with chris cue moe and alisyn camerota. >> that was video of you just before coming on air. >> that is what i do every morning. good morning everyone. welcome to your "new day" it is monday february 5th, 8:00 in the east. chris is off and john berman has had a rough night. >> thanks for being here for me. >> you do see less despondent than at 6:00.
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>> democrats are pushing to release their rebuttal to that controversial gop memo. the house intelligence committee is expected to vote on this today so will republicans on that committee vote in favor of the release for what they had called more transparency. >> the president claims the republican memo totally vindicates him in the russia investigation but some republican lawmakers are distancing themselves from the president saying the memo does not undermine the mueller investigation, not at all. joining us now cnn political analyst david gregory and cnn legal and national security analyst asha ron gop cha. >> i want to start with you here. you say the president say it totally vin did i gates him and you have trey gowdy who was the one republican who saw the underlying data, feel the need to go on tv and say really, no, mr. president. look at this. >> the dossier has nothing to do with the meeting at trump tower. the dossier has nothing to do with an e-mail sent by cambridge.
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the dossier really has nothing to do with george papadopoulos's meeting in great britain. it also doesn't have anything to do with obstruction of justice. there's going to be a russia probe even without a dossier. >> one of the key authors, one of the key figures behind this republican memo is telling the president, david, not so fast. you should not be using this like you are. >> that's significant. another republican said the same thing. i would ask congressman gowdy who's not running for reelection why then he participated in drafting a memo that purported to show this was the kind of garbage in and garbage out investigation and was a predicate for the president to make this unprecedented attack on law enforcement, on our institutions and to try to muddy the water on a serious investigations based on a very serious event that happened in our election because of russian interference. so this does undercut what the
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president is saying. maybe the democratic memo will come out. i just think there's a lot more to this and this is the -- you know, this has been part of the president's playbook from the very beginning to try to delegitimate this ejection going back to his provable lie that the former president obama was wiretapping him and this is from deep state effort to get him. when we just look at the facts as we know them and go through that to see what's true and what's not and even to hold some people accountable if necessary for how some of the fisa warrants were arrived at. >> asha, you are a wonderful guest to have. you're a former fbi agent and you had applaud many times multiple times for fisa warrants and successfully so. so what misconceptions do you see in this memo or what's gotten your attention? >> i think there are a few things. so first, there is a misperception that the steele
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dossier could have been the only piece of relevant evidence to get this and what that misses is that there are active investigations behind every fisa investigation. investigations that have gone on for a long time. so that just wouldn't be the case. there's also very long vetting procedure for everything that goes into a fisa application so without looking at the full picture that was presented to the court, you simply cannot come up with the conclusions that the memo did. >> but when the republicans in the memo say that this was all based on this flimsy dodgy dossier as they call it, that is not possible in your experience? >> well, unless that was what was in the dossier is corroborated. they're not going to take a ten page dossier from human source and staple it to a cover letter haend it to a court. they're going to look at the full scope of their investigation and if there are things that seem to mirror each other coming from an independent
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source, that could be relevant. somebody completely separate also came to this conclusion or heard this. so if it was used i actually think it undercuts what the claim is to begin with it suggests that it is probably corroborating or verified in order to go into that application. >> it's interesting. some of the language on this memo and i've gone through a whole bunch is fascinating. one of the things the memo says is efforts to corroborate the memo were in its infancy at the time. it's not saying nothing was corroborated. some things had begun to be corroborated. saying it was in its infancy maybe it corroborated more on later on. david gregory, the democrats are going to have their chance to get their own memo out to the public. the house intelligence committee votes on it today. then it's really up to the president whether or not he wants to treat this the same way he treated the republican memo so the ball's back in his court. it feels like there's pressure on him to respond now. >> we'll see if he responds.
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i don't have much confidence in it. the president is really remarkably consistent in trying to delegitimize this investigation, trying to either fire in the case of james comey or sully the reputation of rod rosenstein or pressure the deputy -- fbi director at the time andrew mccabe asking who he voted for and so forth. i think the people do need to take a step back. no matter where you are on what we know of this investigation, whether you think it's unfair or the like, this is a political process that's going on in congress in terms of an investigation here, but you know we don't know what damage is done and what our country looks like unless we lose the independence and the strength of these institutions and it's very easy to take them for granted and push them around until they're not there any more and then we slip into a very dark place in our society. the president in his effort to
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delegitimize this investigation doesn't care one wit about any of that. the strength of these institutions and the impact on law enforcement. he's just about trying to kill this investigation and people need to take a hard look at that and think if that's what they want from their president, republican or democrat, because there will be days after donald trump but these decisions have profound effect in terms of our country. >> asha, the president has tweeted about all of this in just the past hour. let me read it to everyone. little adam schiff who is desperate to run for higher office is one of the biggest liars and leakers in washington right up there with comey, warner, brennan and clapper, notably all the people who have come out and said that this is a violation. adam leaves closed committee hearings to illegally leak confidential information. must be stopped. there's so much to parse in this. all sorts of as you know the fbi and the doj didn't want the classified information in the memo to come out.
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>> that's right. >> so the president often picks which leaks he likes. >> that's right. he's also recycling nicknames i see. listen, one thing to understand is whatever the president does and this is to david's point, this investigation will go on. this one fisa is one investigative tool in one case. >> what if fires rod rosenstein? >> he can fire rod rosenstein and fire mueller. this investigation will continue just like it continued after he fired james comey. these balls are rolling legally, the fbi is mandated to continue to investigate any national security threat until it comes to its national conclusion, until its resolved. there are many cases. some are in the judicial system at this point. we have intelligence coming from other countries. cia, nsa. >> there's no stopping it. >> right. and it's all now archived. it's there. he can burn down the fbi
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building and all of the evidence has been collected so far will still exist. director hoover kept his files from 1908 and those still exist now. it's not going away no matter how hard he tries. >> the other piece that we have to recognize is that it's remarkable from a political point of view how the president has unified his party against this investigation and certainly unified his supporters against this investigation. not a new playbook. bill clinton and his allies certainly used that to try to delegitimize the ken starr investigation during that impeachment proceeding. so it's a familiar playbook, but the president has united the party to a remarkable degree on all of this and has done a lot to try to invalidate whatever the findings are by the mueller team and to be sure, people i know at the fbi who have worked
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at the fbi think that this entire episode, the text messages back and forth, you know, the handling of this and of course going back to how comey interfered in the 2016 race has really set the fbi back years. >> and as we know the inspector general is looking into all of that and some point soon, i think in the next few weeks, we will have some answers about those findings. derek and asha, thank you both very much. we do have breaking news right now on the markets. dow futures are down sharply this morning. this is ahead of the open. this comes at wall street suffered the worse day of the trump presidency on friday. so chief business correspondent kristin romans joins us. >> we went from a fear of missing out to just fear. really ugly day to start. dow futures down 246 points right now. that's about 1%. 25,182. you can see the s&p futures and nasdaq around the world. world markets really tumbled
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here. if you look at how tokyo and hong kong closed, that was pretty rough and europe finished exactly where we were ending last week for the dow jones industrial average. i want to give you some context here. here's what the dow looks like over a year. it's been unbelievable. this rally has been unbelievable. this was about a 4% weekly drop here. that is a big decline for a dow that is basically gone up. i'm going to give you a progress report here. the dow is up 40% since the election. that's amazing, right? the nasdaq also up 40% since the election and the s&p up about 30. so those are really big gains. a lot of people are wondering if this is just a pullback that we really needed or if this is the beginning of something else. we are in what i would call the late stage of the late stage of an expansion. it's been ten years of the market moving higher and we really haven't had much of a pullback at all. these numbers here causing a lot of people to wonder if this is
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the beginning of the end of what has been a ten year expansion. >> some of this is that good news on main street may be bad news on wall street. wages may go up. it's inflationary. >> so we've been waiting for wages to rise for years as you know. so we saw friday in the jobs report a solid jobs report the wages rose 2.9% year over year. that's great news for workers but it's not great news for corporate profits. so suddenly you seal the market taking a turn because the bond market is heating up. allen greenspan last week said that both the bond market and the stock market are in a bubble and that got a lot of peoples' attention too, so, you know, i'll be very interested to see if it stabilizes it bit. you can have 300 points down on the opening bell. we'll see if it stabilizes when the buying comes in. >> thank you very much for the preview on all of this. president trump declaring the nunes memo totally vindicates him in the russian investigation. but democrats and republicans
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congratulations on the eagles victory last night. >> hey, thank you. by the way, malcolm jenkins, he just left me his hat so i just want you to know we're just thrilled up here. dog eats goat. keep greasing those poles in philly. can't wait. >> now that we've got that out of the way for hopefully the last time today. let me ask you about something the president just wrote because it concerns one of your colleagues in the house of representatives. the president says little adam schiff who is desperate to run for higher office is one of the biggest liars and leakers in washington right up there with comey, warner, brennan and clapper. adam leaves closed committee hearings to illegally leak confidential information. muck stopped. he's saying the ranking member of the house intelligence committee must be stopped, congressman. what's your reaction? >> well, i think the president should cease and desist from the name calling and insults of all these people. it doesn't add to anything. he should focus on what the issue is here. the issue is this memo which
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alleges that the fbi abused its authority under fisa. i'm not saying they did but that's the whole issue. i have confidence director mueller. we got to let this thing go forward. i believe in transparency but i feel this memo was just transparently partisan and political and should not have been released. it's not adding anything to the debate as far as i'm concerned. if you're going to do something like this, if we're going to have an investigation into an abuse of the fisa process, it should be done in a bipartisan way in a classified setting, probably by the judiciary committee because they have jurisdiction, frankly, over the justice department and or perhaps on a select committee by-par san bicameral. if we're going to do it at least be bipartisan and do it in a classified setting and issue a real report not three and a half page memo that's partisan. >> you were against releasing this memo. the democratic memo goes up before a vote. do you think that should be
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released now? >> well, i wouldn't have released either of these memos. now the republican memo has been released, i suspect it would be very difficult to resist releasing the democrat memo. the president has to sign off on this. that's the question. it almost seems at a matter of fairness you have to release it, but i suspect -- i read both memos and i suspect that they probably have to do a bit more scrubbing on the democratic memo before they can release it. >> which do you believe more? you're one of the few people that have read both of them which is more credible to you? >> i can't speak to the substance of the democratic memo because it's still classified. look, i feel like the republican memo speak about that. a lot of information seems to be cherry picked. it provides an incomplete picture without proper context. there seem to be omissions of
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fact and i don't want to say too much else about it. i don't want to get in trouble. >> with whom? >> it just seems to me we have an incomplete -- look, i don't want to say what i know from the other memo because i haven't read all the underlying documents. obviously there's a lot of classified material here that we're talking about. the point is, i didn't like releasing these memos because why risk any sources or methods, why risk it? and here we are now, you know, basically casting as-persians on the fbi or the nation's premier law enforcement agency. i support the fbi and the mueller investigation and i don't think we should do anything that should try to taint that investigation or discredit it or distract from it. >> the president says the memo vindicates him. does it? >> no. no, it doesn't. the memo, again, it's simply deals with a potential abuse of a fisa warrant in the case of
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carter page. that's what it does. it really doesn't speak to the underlying issue of the mueller investigation which is russian intervention in our election which is a fact and also whether or not there are any issues by the trump campaign in terms of collusion or conspiracy or perhaps obstruction. it really doesn't have any material impact on the mueller investigation. >> you say that the republican memo should never have been released. what does it say about speaker ryan's leadership then of your party in the house of representatives that he has let this go on? >> well, i don't want criticize the speaker. he's in a tough spot. >> he could have stopped it if he wanted to. he didn't. >> he could've. i would've stopped it. i could see where this is going. it's all very partisan. i was a chairman of the house ethics committee. i ran sensitive investigations. we had to do them in a bipartisan manner and frankly, there's an advantage of being able to do things behind closed
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doors, you can have very honest and open conversations, free to spin. you can do the same thing in the intelligence committee and so you have a wonderful opportunity to work in a bipartisan manner and i think that's what's failed here. the senate, frankly, has done a much better job of their investigation at least trying to keep it on the rails and within the lines and operating in i think in bipartisan good faith. >> quickly. >> so this is really the tragedy. this is a great committee. i'm sad to see it's broken down like this. >> what message will it send if the president does not release the democratic memo? >> well, this is just again -- this has been a partisan exercise. that's the whole problem. the republican memo and the democratic memo and this should have never been released to begin with. >> congressman charlie dent. thanks so much for being with us. enjoy your victory, enjoy the parade. go celebrate, we're very, very happy for you. have a great day. thank you, congressman.
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the house intelligence committee today will vote on whether to release that democratic rebuttal that counters the gop memo that alleges surveillance abuse. joining us now to talk about this and more we have democratic congressman mike quigley. he's a member of the house intelligence committee. good morning, congressman. >> good morning. can i begin by saying that there's a whole lot of ranker going on, on a partisan basis in d.c. and i'll say last week was as bad as i've ever seen it relating to this memo and then my colleague charlie dent comes on a few minutes ago on your
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station and speaks the truth with a lot of accuracy and courage, so there are moments, folks, when the democrats and republicans can speak of right mind together. >> guess what? he's retiring. >> you know the two best things i've heard from my republican colleagues about the situation we're in are coming from folks who are leaving their legislative bodies. i thought senator flake also spoke the truth about what's going on. i'd like to think that all of us can say what's right whether or not we're leaving the house or the senate. >> and what does it tell you? what does it tell you that somehow when people are retiring they suddenly feel they can peel off their muzzle and start speaking in nonpoliticalese? >> i think what the message is, is to the american public, not so much to the lawmakers, you know. let your lawmakers tell you what you may not want to hear because
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the partisan divide is as bad as i've ever seen it and i think at some point in time all of us need to be able to say exactly what we think is accurate and have our public understand that we're just trying to do our jobs. >> what did you think of what congressman trey gowdy said yesterday on one of the sunday shows that this investigation is not connected to the dossier, that there are all sorts of threads that are not connected to the dossier and that therefore the president is not vindicated? >> yeah, he's certainly not vindicated and i do agree with mr. gowdy that this investigation did not start because of the dossier. i think there's a huge time difference there. this investigation began independently of the dossier and the fact is the dossier is largely accurate. if there's a few minor areas so be it but it was raw intelligence data to be begin with. i welcome my democratic and
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republican friends to put their guards down and look at this investigation from a clear point of view. mike mer rel the former cia director said the russian attack on our democratic process was the political equivalent of 9/11 and i think he's right. whether you're democrat or republican, this was an assault on our democracy. you can just as easily have seen this happening the other way with the republicans would attack -- where the russians would attack a republican candidate and let's remember, they hacked into state boards of election to attack our democratic process. we should all be equally concerned, find out what happened and make sure it doesn't happen again. >> i have one more question about the dossier because it seems to be one of the headlines of the devin nunes memo that was released on friday. so what nunes and the memo claim, his staff, is that the fbi deputy director andrew mccabe told your committee
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behind closed doors that, in fact, it was the dossier, if not for the steele dossier, no surveillance warrant would have been sought for carter page. true or false, did that happen? >> it is false. we're not his exact words. it was classified. the setting we're talking about so i have to be mindful of it. until our memo comes out it's hard to contradict exactly what they're saying. those were not his exact words. they're cherry picked. they're out of context as mr. dent said. that's true for the entire two and a half page memo. i don't think either memo should have been put out because they release information that shouldn't be out there protecting sources and methods, but now that their report is out there, our memo has to go out there just to correct what they stated in their short memo. >> will the republicans on your committee vote to release that democratic rebuttal?
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>> i believe they will. my concern isn't with what the republicans will do at a business meeting that i'll be part of this afternoon. it's what the president will do. this is a president that we have seen would do anything to obtain power. i can't imagine why anyone would imagine that he won't do anything to retain that power. >> so meaning, you don't think that he'll sign off on your -- >> i'm concerned that he won't -- yeah, i'm concerned he won't sign off. i'm concerned that he will try to redact or change the memo. i believe that this white house worked with chairman nunes to concoct this idea -- >> and why do you believe that? why do you think there was coordination? >> they did it once before at the start of the investigation with the chairman's midnight ride to the white house to obtain information and get it to the president and we learned later that they had concocted the entire plan and he got that information from the white house in the first place and obviously for those who read the transcript of our business meeting last week, the chairman
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refused to answer that question that i asked of whether or not they worked on this memo or his staff worked on this memo with the white house. so unfortunately the president has a few coconspiracy tors in this charade and i'm hoping we get to the truth. >> very quickly, is your committee compromised beyond repair? >> no. this investigation is too important for us to let anything hinder it, right? i think we've made a lot of progress. i think we know a lot more about what has taken place but we have a long way to go. look, steve bannon in that book said, this is all about money laundering and jared kushner. i think there's a lot of truth to that and we barely scratched the surface as to what took place with money laundering. it's just one example of the kinds of things that we have to investigate because they're extraordinarily important. >> thank you very much for being
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here, congressman. >> thank you. >> john? it was on president's trump wish list for congress in the state of the union address. now we're learning more about his interest in bolstering the nuclear arsenal. we'll discuss next. [ click, keyboard clacking ]
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there was not much talk of russia or the russia threat in the president's state of the union address, however his review of the nation's nuclear policy signals what could be a very important shift in attitudes towards the nuclear arsenal. >> joining us now is david sanger who wrote about this. he's a cnn political and national security analyst. great to see you. your headline is to counter-russia u.s. signals nuclear arms are back in a big way. what does that ominous wording mean? >> well, alisyn, you may remember that early in the waum administration, president obama game a big speech in prague in which he said the united states would begin to de-emphasize the use of nuclear weapons as a central part of our defense strategy and over the years he did a bit of that. his critics would say not enough
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in order to get the new start treaty which was the last arms control treaty that the united states signed with russia, it agreed to $70 billion improvements, much needed in the u.s. weapons labs, so now president trump is come in and if you read this new nuclear strategy which came out on friday just as the devin nunes memo came out, you can imagine it didn't get a huge amount of attention at the time, what you discover is nuclear weapons are going back to the center of our defense strategy and not only that they're going there because of rational that russia is forcing us to go do that. if you listen to the state of the union, the president mentioned increasing nuclear capability. he said nothing about russia or putin's drive to build new weapons. >> in other words, david, are you suggesting that russia is pulling the united states into a new arms race? >> i'm not suggesting it, defense secretary mattis is
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saying so quite explicitly in this document and said so in a speech that he gave when he turned out a new national defense strategy about two weeks ago where he said that super power competition, not terrorism, would now be the central focus of american defense strategy. that's a huge change since 9/11 and one that's really not reflected in the political rhetoric where people, of course, respond right away to any call to defeat isis, al qaeda, all very important missions but mattis is now saying not the most important mission. >> how does this work with new treaty that's supposed to go into effect today? >> the way the treaty was negotiated eight years ago, went into effect seven years ago but today is the day when both russia and the united states have to hit the limit of no more than 1,550 deployed nuclear weapons. sounds like a lot but remember there were well more than 10,000
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at the height of the cold war. now, initially, the thought alisyn was that was the floor and that president obama wanted to drive it even lower. now the idea is when this treaty expires in just three years, it may not be renewed and both countries could be off building far more. in the meantime, the u.s. says it's going to build a series of low yield nuclear weapons which some people are afraid the president could make use of. >> that's the thing. less powerful nuclear weapons which in a way might make things even more dangerous, david. >> that's part of the argument, john, that if you've got something that blurs the distinction between a very powerful nonnuclear weapon and a nuclear weapon, have something that's in between with a low nuclear yield might be easier for a president to reach for. the president's defenders say that's not true. we've had low yield weapons before. nobody's ever gone over that
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line and, in fact, this could make things safer by keeping the russians from starting with a low yield weapon and they have a lot of them. but clearly what this means is, we're back in an arms race where we're matching their designs. >> fascinating times. david sanger, thank you so much. terrific report. >> thank you. convicted sex abuser and u.s. gymnastics doctor larry nassar will be sentenced for a final time for sexually assaulting hundreds of young girls and women. jean ca sar res live in michigan with more, jean. >> reporter: that sentencing will take place in 15 minutes right in the courthouse behind me. there were 59 victims that walked up and gave their victim impact statements here. there were 156. we know there are 265 identified victims at this point going forward. larry nassar can speak to the court here before he's sentenced. he can beg for mercy. he can apologize or he can say nothing and many times you don't
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know until right before a defendant stands up if he's going to or not. we also do know some reporting from the "the new york times" this morning that they knew for one year about larry nassar and did not act on the report. the "times" is saying that in spring of 2015 athletes and a mother went to the u.s. gymnastics telling them what larry nassar was doing. usa gymnastics called in an investigator, a female specializing in sexual assault. she spoke with the athletes, many of them olympians along with the mother. she told usa gymnastics to go to law enforcement. they did in july of 2015 and it was 11 months before anything was done on that report. we also have learned that over 40 young women were assaulted in that year. we have reached out to the fbi for a comment. they have not responded. and back here in michigan, larry nassar is facing in this court up to 125 years in prison. alisyn, john. >> oh, my gosh.
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all of the numbers throughout all of this case have been staggering. just the amount of young women that he was able to abuse and the fact that 40 happened during that year obviously we'll need more answers to that. jean, thank you very much for all the reporting. so now to this. you're not just devastated because of your loss yesterday but the patriots but there was the super bowl ad that is drawing backlash today. it used martin luther king jr.'s voice to sell dodge pickup trucks. watch this. >> if you want to be important, wonderful. if you want to be recognized, wonderful. if you want to be great, wonderful. but recognize that he who is greatest among you shall be your that's the new definition of greatness by giving back definition of greatness it means that everybody can be great.
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you don't have to know about, you don't have to know the theory of relevanty. you don't have to know the second theory of thermal dynamics in physics to serve. you only need a heart full of grace. so generated by love. >> the manager of dr. king's estate issued a statement defending the decision to be part of this ad saying, quote, we found that the overall message of the ad embodied dr. king's philosophy that true grateness is achieved by serving others thus we decided to be a apart of rams built to serve super bowl program. there's a lot of things that people don't know about it. this was not a public service announcement. this was an appeal to buy trucks. >> it's great to hear those words. it's so stirring.
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i understand the instinct of the estate, dr. king's estate want to go get those words out there but the selling of trucks feels so tone deaf. >> the other thing that's fascinating, in this very speech that dr. king gave he talked about buying vehicles. he basically was telling people don't go buy vehicle you can't afford. it's not all about that. the whole thing is really fascinating. there was a message of greed and purchasing and all that but the thing that bothered people the most as they were watching was the fact that it's buy trucks. >> it does remind us that we should hear his words more often. we should fit those into the dialogue. now that the republican memo is out, what are the consequences? how can trust between law enforcement and congress be restored? we'll get the bottom line next. >> tech: at safelite autoglass
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. the democrats now pushing for release of their rebuttal to the controversy republican memo which alleges fbi surveillance
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abuses. is the part of the jif training the strain of the law enforcement? joining us is jane harmon, former congressman once the ranking member of the house intelligence committee. she's now the president and ceo at the woodrow wilson center where david sanger -- >> all the cool kids. >> we just asked the question here. is it straining the relationship between politics and law enforcement and has it rendered this committee which you sat on and you loved your work there essentially forever damaged? >> i don't know about forever but for now irrep raably damaged. the intel committees are leadership committees that means that the appointments go through the leadership of the house and the senate. they don't go through the regular process which is a committee that's also appointed by the leadership but it has more democratic to elect people to committees. in this case, the house intel committee has been becoming more
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politicized over recent years and the storied past where there was true bipartisanship has been vaporized. i served on there -- >> you were adam schiff, basically. >> i wasn't little adam schiff and he's not little either but i served on there when porter gos was the chairman first he became cia director and a guy napete huxtra. we were like an old married couple. on our watch intelligence reform passed. in 2004 to correct the abuses that led to a massive intelligence failure on 9/11 and a massive intelligence failure around weapons of mass destruction in iraq and now we have the director of national intelligence and he was the joint commander across the intelligence community and intel last time i looked was getting much better. >> so from where you sit now and you watch what's going on in the
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house intelligence committee and you watch devin nunes putting out this memo, i mean -- look, as i understand, correct me if i am wrong the reason the intelligence committee's were created was so that a select group of lawmakers could see the intelligence and be nonpolitical about it? >> little history here. i was a young lawyer on the senate judiciary committee during the saturday night massacre. i was there and on sunday the democrats on the committee, there were no intelligence committees convened each senator could bring one staffer. i was the only woman. i had a one week old son and we thought the country might or our democratic rule of law might disappear. it didn't but that led to among other things the church committee, the storied church committee which led to the passage of the foreign intelligence surveillance act and the standing up of intel committees in both houses and they were truly bipartisan, truly bipartisan until the last
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decade or so. and the short-term future is horrible. mike rodgers was on the house intelligence committee. we overlapped by two years. he was not yet chairman. i saw him friday and hopefully we will write a piece together about the sad demise of the house intelligence committee. >> what does it do when the president this morning attacks the ranking member adam schiff of that committee as you were saying calling him little adam schiff and says along with james comey, mark warner who's the chair of that senate intelligence committee, brennan who was cia director and james clapper dni, he calls them all leakers and law breakers? >> the damage -- they're big boys and they will handle it. if you're in politics and even brennan if you're at that level, you're in a glass house, but what about the people who work for them? what about someone who is deciding whether or not to join the fbi or the cia and what about our foreign liaison partners in intel agencies and
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criminal investigative agencies who have tipped us off over the years to a lot of the plots that could harm our country and those plots have been foiled. the intelligence community is the tip of the spear and you think about isis, i give trump credit being pushed out as we say squooshed out of syria, where's it going to go next? by the way, a positive thing. the trump administration has just put additional sanctions on hezbollah which is one of the maligned proxy agencies of iran but the problem is our partners who need to do that with us to make those sanctions effective don't want to cooperate with us because they think trump might try to ditch the iran nuclear deal which at least reduces that particular threat in the neighborhood and was i, i think, it was and is a big success. >> it is great to get your perspective on all of this. you know it better than anybody and it is troubling to hear you
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think that there are tainted beyond repair at the moment. thanks so much for being here. >> you're welcome. cnn "newsroom" with erica hill today picks up after this break. >> thanks for walking me through this morning, helping me get through this. >> i've got you on this. we'll see you tomorrow. we've helped our investors stay confident for over 80 years. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. new year, new phones for the family. join t-mobile, and when you buy one of the latest samsung galaxy phones get a samsung galaxy s8 free. yahoooo! ahoooo! plus, unlimited family plans come with netflix included. spectacular! so, you can watch all your netflix favorites on your new samsung phones. whoa! join the un-carrier and get a samsung galaxy s8 free. all on america's best unlimited network.
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good morning. i'm erica hill in for john berman and poppy harlow. this morning a president who claims he's totally vindicated in the russian investigation is demanding the leading democrat on the house intelligence committee be stopped. a skalding attack called adam schiff and i'm quoting here one of the biggest liars and leakers in washington and claims schiff leaves closed committee hearings to yell illegally confidential information.


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