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resolution. >> clearly a lot going on. the news will continue here. that's it for me. i'll be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in the situation room for our international viewers, amanpour is next. for our viewers in the u.s., "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. >> wolf, thank you. hi, everyone. i'm brooke baldwin. to capitol hill, back away from the brink. more than two weeks since the last government shutdown and some 30 hours before it could happen again. republicans and democrats in the senate have reached a deal. not just any deal. this could avoid future shutdown fears and absolutions. >> this bill is a product of extensive negotiations among
congressional leaders and the white house. no one would suggest it is perfect but we worked hard to find common ground. first and foremost, this bipartisan agreement will unwind the sequestration cuts that have hamstrung our armed forces and jeopardized our national security. >> after months of legislative log jams this budget deal is a genuine breakthrough. after months of fiscal brinkmanship, this budget deal is a first real sprout of bipartisanship. >> that is the senate. the house may or may not cooperate. you have democratic leader nancy pell oosi taking to the house fr quite a while today insisting more needs to be promised to protect dreamers, undocumented immigrants brought to the u.s. as kids. >> it does nothing to even
advance, even with a commitment without having passed legislation first, to protect dreamers in this house. without that commitment from speaker ryan, comparable to the commitment from leader mcconnell, this package does not have my support. >> we have no right to talk about dreamers and to tell their stories and take pride in their actions unless we're willing to take action to support them. we have that opportunity today. to ask the speaker, what are you afraid of? >> from what i understand, phil, speaker ryan's office has said repeatedly that republicans, yes, intended to do this immigration reform bill, citing his spokeswoman, quote, one that the president supports.
what's the issue? >> that last part that they have a serious problems with. there's a lot of concern that the president will settle on anything at this point or that the four principles the president has laid out to this point are considered objectionable by democrats. leader pelosi is pointing to, brooke, the mechanism set up in the senate. whoever gets 60 votes ends up winning. that's not how the houseworks but that's what leader pelosi is looking for. according to many sources familiar with this, she's not going to get that. make no mistake, speaker ryan wants to put this on the floor but wants the sign off of the president before he does that. keep in mind this is an enormously consequential deal. senator schumer laid it out, moving, lurching from crisis to crisis on the spending side of things for what seems like years at this point, could be completely off the table and includes more than $80 billion for disaster relief for places like florida, texas, puerto rico, ravaged by hurricanes.
health care spending that's been considered very important and another crisis taken off the table, debt ceiling increased since 2018. you could clear the decks of all those items that's exactly why democrats were at the table and willing to do this. not just because of that but also because of the nondefense spending that would happen with this. more than $64 billion over the course of the next two years of increases in nondefense spending. that's opioid treatment, veterans' treatment. the daca issue, as nancy pelosi suggested, that's what they are looking at. you talk about the house republicans on the far right, fiscal conservatives who don't like the spending increases, democrats who are concerned about the lack of daca resolution in this. they need to find the votes in the house to move this forward. in the senate it's clear, they believe they have a sweet spot there where you have 60 votes
with everybody left over. speaker ryan will have to do the same thing in the house and find enough republicans to move forward. over next 24 hours you'll have leaders in both parties trying to sell this deal, make this happen. you're going to have a lot of bullets flying, people, particularly democrats who are very unhappy that we are now at this point. once again, it's a point that could take crises off the table for a long period of time. that is not a small thing, as you know quite well. >> we will hone in on what will happen in the house. bullets flying, so says phil mattingly. thank you for that. >> more breaking news, something that sarah sanders was asked about in the press briefing, that staff secretary rob porter has resigned due to allegations of domestic abuse by not just one but two of his ex-wives. jeff zeleny is live in
washington. they were just asking about this. tell us about the allegations involved and why he has left. >> certainly an interesting development here. rob porter is someone who is not known as a household name, of course. he is very critical inside the west wing of the white house. he is a staff secretary, largely in charge of all the information coming to and from the oval office. he brings, you know, documents and news reports and briefings and other matters. former chief of staff to orrin hatch on capitol hill. he has worked inside the administration since the beginning and largely responsible for writing speeches and other matters. his profile has been growing. the resignation is becoming abruptly after the report from the dailymail.com reported two of his ex-wievts, as you said, said that he physically and verbally abused them. the white house just yesterday when this was coming out, they were denieding him, saying that he's a good worker, the ultimate professional. but today the resignation came.
this is a brief statement we have from rob porter. let's take a look at it. it says these allegations are simply false. i took the photos given to the media nearly 15 years ago and the reality behind them is nowhere close to what is being described. i've been transparent and truthful about these vile claims but will not further engage publicly with a coordinated smear campaign. the photo shows a black eye and other matters here. you have a sense that they moved so fast here because they knew this was going to be a big issue. i am told john ankly and others urged him not to resign. he did resign his position. he will be leaving some time in the future. we heard sarah sanders say not immediately but certainly leaving the white house, brooke. >> how was the white house, brooke -- in order to get a job, you're vetted, right? there are background checks.
if you're talking about the word of these two women with photographic evidence, they say, of abuse, how is this not caught before he walked in that front door? >> great question. you are hired first and then the background check comes later for your security clearance. that is interesting, someone who had such access to the president and, indeed, the oval office, still did not have his permanent security clearance. he was acting on a temporary one. that is one of the reasons, we believe, that came out of the fbi investigation, routine background check here. that was unusual, more than a year in here, year into the administration, he still did not have his full-time security clearance. often was with the president on the road, in davos, switzerland, a couple of weeks ago with the president, would travel frequently but did not have full-time security clearance. an interesting flag here. we do know he will be resigning his position from the white house. >> one more, jeff, do you know if ivanka trump played a role in this decision at all? >> i do not know if ivanka trump
played a role in this decision at all. certainly rob porter was viewed as a very popular figure inside the west wing. he is someone who came of washington, working on capitol hill. he was essentially a tour guide for other folks here who was ininstructing newcomers like ivanka trump, jared kushner and others of how washington worked. i do not know if ivanka trump played a role in this. >> thank you very much on that reporting. david chalian is joining me. cnn special correspondent jamie gangel. rob porter, not a name a lot of people at home know. are you surprised? >> i'm not surprised a resignation came with the allegations that are out there, that they sort of seem, you know, unsustainable scenario for someone to serve at the highest levels of the white house day in, day out, with allegations of spousal abuse, allegations he is
deny i denying in the remarks read by sarah sanders, but one having the allegations out there would make it so optically terrible to have this person working day in, day out. >> what are you thinking? >> it wasn't just from one person but both his former wives. what they lay out sounds very similar in both cases. also i think it's worth mentioning that in the daily mail article, the fbi apparently interviewed one of his former wives who told the fbi about these incidents. so, this may be one of the reasons that his security cloerns was held up. i just want to say, i did hear several weeks ago rumors that rob porter might be leaving. and then it went away.
i'm just wondering if they knew the daily mail piece was coming. he is considered very well respected by people who work for him. he went to harvard. his father, roger porter, was head of the domestic policy council for president bush 41. he goes back a long way in washington. i'm told general kelly really liked and respected him and wanted him in this job. >> i just got handed a piece of paper, a statement from senator orrin hatch, who rob porter served as his chief of staff at one point. let me read part of this statement for you. he writes, i am heartbroken by today's allegations. in every interaction i've had with rob, he has been courteous, professional and respectful. my staff loved him and he was a trusted adviser. i do not know the details of rob's personal life, domestic violence in any form is
abhorrent. i am praying for rob and those involved. >> the white house put out statements from several people and they put out a statement from senator hatch that is entirely different in tone than that statement. that statement came from the senator's office and clearly changed what i guess seemed to be the initial statement that went out by the white house. i imagine we'll hear more about this throughout the day. >> actually, i've got it now. the first statement released by the white house is this. it is incredibly discerning to see a vile attack against such a decent man. shame on any publication that would print this and shame on the morally bankrupt character assassins that would attempt to
sully a man's name. i've known rob. i've known him for years, as a close friend and personal adviser. he is kind and considerate to all. the country needs more honest, principle people like rob porter, which is why i hope this cynical campaign to discredit his character ultimately fails. you are correct, david chalian. very different tone between those statements. thank you for pointing that out. let me move on to this spending deal. staying with you, david, the fact that we have the secretary of defense briefing reporters at the white house, talking about the ramistics, how catastrophic it would be if the government was to shut down again. give us the budget to carry out our responsibilities. what's the state of play right now? what are you really looking at? >> what i'm really looking at is -- i know this may shock our audience after looking at so much inaction due to partisanship but there may be a
bipartisan governing phase to break free in washington here. so much of today's politics, brooke, as you and i have talked about time and time again, it's dictated by the polls, by the left of the democratic party, right of the republican party. this is a moment where the governing majority of the center from both sides seems to be getting a deal through the senate and, you know, paul ryan sounds like he expects this to pass the house. yes. you will have people, nancy pelosi, an example representing the left wing, of her party at the moment and house freedom caucus members representing the right wing who will create a bit of drama and express frugs trags with this deal. there may be a governing bipartisan majority at the moment to get this matter, this budgetary matter through both chambers. you heard sarah sanders today. having the president's backing of this, saying it's positive, that's going to help bring on those conservative members in the house, too.
>> just some numbers, jamie. senate bill goes to military and nondefense spending. pentagon would see funding boosted, $80 billion toward disaster relief to places like texas, puerto rico, florida. you talked to a lot of republicans who are mostly deficit hawks, right? now you see cha-ching, c cha-ching, cha-chaing ching and they appear to be the party of spending. >> everybody is getting a little bit of what they wanted. as david said it's better to have something than nothing and not look as if you can't do anything. at some point the consequences of -- >> not doing anything. >> -- not doing anything is no good. especially when you have mid term elections. >> that matters.
jamie, thank you so much. david chalian, thank you. up next, marching orders. secretary of defense james mattis weighed in on president trump's request for this big military parade. this, as we have now heard from republican senator lindsey graham calling this idea, in a word, cheesy. we'll discuss that next. also, breaking in the russia investigation subpoenas for former trump campaign manager corey lewandowski and steve bannon. you're watching cnn. i'm an o careful. i think you should come camping.
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operation desert storm and desert shield was worth it. and made me realize just how much, you know, the people back here are standing up for us and appreciated what we were doing. >> good to see the country showing their support. i think it's -- it's good to see my daughter, you know. >> there was controversy over having a victory parade from anti-war activists, to arab supporters who said there should be no celebration for death of muslims. >> cnn report from june 1991, last time united states held a major military parade to mark victory in the gulf war. marching orders all his own. chairman of the joint chiefs confirms initial planning has begun for a parade down pennsylvania avenue in washington, d.c. one option is to hold it on
november 11th this year, to mark the 100th anniversary of the ending of world war i, also happens to be veterans day. he was reportedly inspired by france's bastille day parade which he attended with president macron last year. >> one of the greatest parades i've ever seen. it was two hours on the button and it was military might. to a large extent because of what i witnessed, we may do something like that on swrul 4th in washington down pennsylvania avenue. i don't know. we'll have to try to top it. >> so let's talk about this now. lieutenant general mark hert lichlt ng, former lieutenant commander in the navy reserve and barbara starr, our pentagon correspondent. welcome to all of you. barbara, first to you, hearing from the secretary of defense at the top of that white house briefing, pretty political on
this, saying it shows the president's respect for the military. >> he was asked why do it, why spend the money? when jim mattis wants to answer a question, he answers it at length. he did not want to answer this. he said it shows the president's affection and respect for the military and they're developing options. make no mistake, what this means is the pentagon will give the president options for the kind of parade he wants. he will pick. he will decide. there's not really anything anybody can do about it. he is the commander in chief. there have been military parades. why are you not seeing a huge rush of public support for this idea? already we're seeing bipartisan criticism on capitol hill. you know, look. one of the questions is one of tone and substance. the u.s. military right now never really did come home from the gulf, did it? the wars have continued for 16 years. u.s. forces directed into conflicts which have largely been conducted in countries of
the islamic faith. there is international sensitivity that has carried on all these years about it. and that is one of the major reasons culturally the u.s. military celebrates its service. the u.s. military, as you know better than anybody, brooke, does not have a long tradition, a cultural affinity for celebrating a big display of tanks and missiles rolling down pennsylvania avenue. in this country it is about celebrating the service of the troops, not doing something necessarily that a president wants. there has to be a good reason for all of this. thanking the troops, respecting the troops. why do one of these very major, very rare parades where you are going to see tanks on the streets of washington? >> yeah.
barbara, thank you. general hertling, you remind us where you were in '91, if you were overseas, fighting the good fight, and how you see the idea of this big military parade. >> i have to laugh, brooke. i was still in iraq. a lot of the forces had already returned to the united states. i was stationed in germany. we were some of the last folks to get out of iraq. it was funny because we read about it in "stars & stripes," this big victory parade when we were in the middle of the desert. i'll never forget. a young soldier came up to me and said sir, i'm sure glad i'm here than having to do that stupid parade in washington. that's anectdotal but barbara starr is right, the the u.s. military does not do parades like this. after a four-day ground war that was monumental in terms of its operational brilliance, it was a
welcome home ceremony for the troops. year ly parade, walking down constitution avenue or pennsylvania avenue just isn't in the culture or the heritage of the u.s. military. it belongs in other countries. i'm not going to say whether it's right or wrong. it's not all dictators that do this. some democracies do this as well. it's just not part of our heritage. >> steve, president trump has said he more or less wants the pomp. do you see this more about the president or our brave men and women in uniform? >> americans love parades and they love their military. it's not just about weapons and tanks but the people who will be marching. you're going to have medal of honor winners, as far back as world war ii, veterans from the vfws, american legion and on and on. what a grand way of honoring the people of our military. brooke, this has started a conversation. i hope the conversation
continues about the real mission of the united states military that's not being taught in our schools today. and our military is doing great things. there is no downside to this. i'm so proud of being in the navy. my son fought fallujah in the marines. he said dad, this would be great. we're going to honor the men and women. it's not just about showing off weapons. it's about honoring the heroes of this country. >> general hertling, doesn't steve have a point? i know i've spent enough time around soldiers and sailors that it's not a me, me, me culture. what if americans want to celebrate you. >> it's fine that americans want to celebrate you. honestly, for the last couple of years there's been a thank you to our soldiers, thank you for your service. you talk to most military people, the ones that wear the uniform, that embarrasses them a little bit. they don't like to be thanked. they served. you know that. you've been to places where it happens. i did an unofficial,
unscientific twitter question just out to all the military veterans and military serving and said what do you think of this parade? it was probably a thousand to one saying we don't do parades. one command sergeant major said you can get something out of everything. he's right. you can get all kinds of things out of any training event. but 1,000 to 1 said this is dumb. lindsey graham tweeted out something saying he supported this parade that president trump wants to do. take a look at his twitter feed. >> he said it's cheesy. >> the first one said i support just troops, not a show of force with equipment. >> yeah. >> you could see by the answers on his twitter feed how many people told him it was the dumbest idea yet. it's just not part of the american tradition. >> brooke, we remember watching the scene of troops coming off planes into airports and people spontaneously thanking them and applauding them and the tears coming down the cheeks of those
troops. general, with all due respect, there's nothing wrong with thanking our heroes and this is a great way to do it. >> there isn't anything wrong with thanking our heroes, commander. having a parade with military equipment and marshal intent down pennsylvania avenue once a year is not the way to do it. we do not flaunt our abilities like that as a major world military power. we do it quietly and behind the scenes. >> i'm proud of our military. >> so am i. >> i'm not saying you're not. you're a fine general. i think this is the opportunity to show the world that we have a great fine military and more so to thank the men and women in a grand way. >> we don't need a parade. >> maybe you don't. >> to show the world we have a fine military. we do that every day. >> we don't need a lot of things. >> there are 140,000 u.s. army soldiers deployed in 179 countries around the world. they are showing the world what
a great military we v we don't need a marshall parade to do that in my opinion. >> do you know who will determine that? the people that will show up. >> then it's not for the soldiers, right? because the soldiers don't want the parade. >> i salute you, general. i really do. >> i would love to hear what people think. send me a tweet @brookeb @cnn. corey lewandowski and steve bannon, are subpoenas about to be enforced? what we've just learned next. >> tech: at safelite autoglass we know that when you're spending time with the grandkids every minute counts. and you don't have time for a cracked windshield.
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the top democrat on the house intelligence committee says it is time to subpoena corey lewandowski and enforce the subpoena against steve bannon. adam schiff kaes calls come one day after the white house negotiates what he can and not talk about based on privilege. do republicans agree or not with adam schiff? >> remember when he appeared before the house intelligence committee last month, brooke? he said he was, quote, not prepared to answer a number of questions about topics that occurred after he left the trump campaign in june of 2016.
after his appearance, adam schiff and other republicans said lewamdowski had agreed to appear before the committee after time to prepare for those topics. looks like he's not going to come. he did not plan to return, according to adam schiff and mike con'way, also confirming that news to me. schiff says because of lewandowski's decision not to return, he wants a subpoena to compel his appearance. that is something that con'way and other republicans are not agreeing with yet. >> mr. schiff just said lewandowski will not reappear before the committee and that he should be subpoenaed. should he be? >> we have a letter. [ inaudible ]
>> what's your reaction? >> we will respond. >> he said he would return to answer questions when he was better prepared. is this a violation of that agreement? >> so decidedly not nearly as concerned as adam schiff. and pete king just told me moments ago that he believes that lewandowski should not be subpoenaed because he answered 90% of the questions they had for the committee. another question is when will steve bannon return? he has delayed appearances before the committee after not answering questions about any topics after the campaign season. saying he was trying to preserve the president's right to insert executive privilege. both sides says he needs to come
back and answer questions but he wants to talk to bob mueller first before he talks to the house committee. schiff is suggesting that that subpoena be enforced. this comes as hope hicks, her appearance was scrapped by the committee last month after it was unclear whether she would be able to answer questions after the campaign season. three high-profile witnesses have either been canceled or rescheduled. uncertain whether they'll come back as the house investigation continues to hit more turmoil. brooke? >> manu, thank you. we will discuss the legal fallout of all of what manu just reported. moments ago, senate leaders from both parties reached a budget deal. immigration not included here. how the white house is reacting, ahead. at ally, we offer low rates on home loans.
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the deal sent spinning numbers for the next two years. major demand for democrats that led to shutdown, promise to protect dreamers, young immigrants brought illegally into this debris as children. with me now from capitol hill, congressman meeks democrat from new york. also a member of the black caucus. good to have you back. >> good to be with you, brooke, as always. >> yes or no, are you willing to consider this spending bill without any daca solution in it? >> i'm going to look at it. the devil is always in the details. i think we have to find a daca solution. clearly, congress has not done that. barack obama, when he was the president, found a solution, since congress wouldn't do t we had a solution. this president broke that solution. i think it's incumbent upon this president to work to fix that
solutio solution. >> congressman, yoor in the weeds on this. you can't say definitively if you're a yes or no? >> that's correct. >> nancy pelosi has said no, she will oppose the spending bill to keep the government open unless speaker ryan guarantees her this open debate and vote on immigration. she made it clear she was speaking for herself and not whipping other members against it. still, congressman meeks, would you feel free as a democrat to vote yes? >> i am undecided at this moment because the devil is always in the details. when you talk about infrastructure spending, i need to know how and where that money is coming from. you talk about disaster relief, especially for the virgin island, puerto rico and others. i'm looking at a budget in a
sense as a budget detail not as -- because what we have -- what the president has created is a hostage situation. to do the budget he created a problem with daca individuals. now he wants to hold them hostage. >> the white house actually just said -- excuse me for jumping in. the white house said that nancy pelosi is holding the military hostage because they want to do this deal, give more money to defense spending and they made this commitment on immigration but that will be separate from that. >> immigration is separate. we need to look at the budget as to whether or not -- my concern was defense spending. how much was it going to be but also done domestic spending. thus far they'll be taking care of the fed spending but we are also increasing domestic spending. the fact that community health care centers are important to me. infrastructure spending is important to me. i have to look at all those
things. that's one item that we have to focus on. and we can't forget the daca kids. i think the immigration issue is a separate thing. we can't hold the daca kids hostage to the budget negotiations that was created by the president of the united states. >> honing in on immigration, i think i'm hearing devil is in the details but recognize that immigration would be separate. on immigration, you heard what the white house chief of staff said, lazy. he has doubled down on his comments. with this. i've got to say some of them should probably have gotten off the couch and signed up. but that doesn't really matter now because president trump has given them the status. first your reaction to those words, congressman. >> what the chief of staff said is not only offensive, it's a
lie. it's not a fact. he clearly has no knowledge of the issues as it pertains to daca and rules and regulations and what these kids have gone through. these kids are as american as my kids r this is the only country which they know. and we would not have this problem today had not president trump ended what president obama created as a fix. so we, as congress, need to step up and do something. ronald reagan did with congress. that's a separate issue we have to work on. it's a donald trump created problem so it has to be a donald trump -- he has to step up and fix this. i think the american people understand that. most american people understand that the daca children are as american as they are. >> executive action from president obama and now president trump kicked it to you within congress to fix this and hopefully, there will be a fix. majority of the country wants
them protected. you call chief of staff kelly's lanlg language offensive. how much does that rile up your party and negotiations as much as the s-hole remarks did some weeks ago? >> look, it riles us all up. we have an unfortunate situation where this is what you come to expect from this administration. any time you talk about anybody, whether they happen to be from central america or south america or africa, or haiti, or the caribbean. any time you talk about people of color you learn that this administration treats them with absolute disrespect and has nothing but negative -- >> are you able, congressman, to put that aside when you're negotiating with republicans on capitol hill? >> no. that's part of the situation you have to have. you have understand that's part
and parcel when we're negotiating the immigration bichlt i think the american people understand that. they will be on our side when you look at the numbers and the protections that should go to these daca kids. we need to make sure we hammer that home and put them in the same scenario that the president put himself in with what took place in virginia, in regard to the hate fful comments there. >> charlottesville? >> that's correct. >> one of his sons, don junior saying the last efforts to frame his dad and support anyone who supports his dad as a hater or ray racist. she was asking about this. this is don junior's response, congressman. >> it's been terrible to watch. i know him.
i've seen him my whole life. i've seen the things he has done. it's amazing. all the rappers, all this, jesse jackson to al sharpton, i have pictures with them their whole life. hi, always be friends. it was only until he got into politics, all of a sudden, he's the most terrible human being in the world. >> so, his dad has black friends. would you like to respond to that, congressman? >> yeah. his dad is what he says he is. listen to his statements. who do you believe, donald trump jr. or your lying ears? we heard what donald trump has said. first starting for me in new york with the central park five. then denying the first black president with the birther incident, saying he could not have possibly been born in the united states and then in reference to mexicans, calling them rapists and thieves, et cetera. then latino, mexican judge. couldn't be the person to do that. you go on and on and on, on to
charlottesville, on to the comment he made about haiti and africa. everything that has come out of his mouth. all the policy he has put forward has been anti-people of color. if it sounds like a duck and it looks like a duck, it's a duck. he has made racist statements. he has continued policies that i believe are racist in nature and so, therefore, you can say something that -- you know, you can call it any way you want. the facts are what the facts are. you can't take away the facts of what he said. brooke, you can roll back the videotape. roll it back, statement after statement, what he said about muslims. it's all on tape. i would roll back those tapes, just what he said, and give it to any jury and see what they say and what conclusion they come up with. not based upon something in the air but based upon his own words. that's everything to me. >> congressman meeks, thank you, sir. we could soon find out what is
inside the democratic memo. that is the document that ref e refutrefut refutes the republican memo, nunes memo. white house officials tell cnn that unless there is a threat to national security, president trump is expected to sign off on its release. what's not clear is exactly how much of it could be redacted. the white house officials telling cnn they expect trump to authorize the memo's release unless there's a grave threat to national security. cnn law enforcement analyst and special agent who left the fbi last week in protest, so nice to have you on. and david jali, former florida congressman. the president released the republican memo in full, despite the fbi saying -- we remember the public, rare statement that they had grave concerns and that the president was going to release the memo before he read
this thing. with this democratic rebuttal there's been more caution. what's your interpretation? >> nothing memo should be released. there were days until very recent times where house intel matters were not politicized, were not public. it's good oversight work of an intel committee. what devin nunes and donald trump has done is politicize the process. we can all put our attention on the politicization on the house intel committee right now. it's inconsequential compared to what mueller comes with. nunes and trump are engaged in a political process. bob mueller has an investigative process. what he reports is what will matter. >> i hear you how the mueller findings are important. but josh, why would he say release the nunes memo when the fbi was waving all these flags and on the democratic rebuttal,
he said let me wait until i see what the fbi said. double standard? >> it is. and i disagree with the politicization analysis. on the substance of either memo there's an issue with respect to process. what i mean by that is that after the 2004 wmd commission report came out, the community was held to a tern set of standards. anything that we do must be objective. it must be apolitical. it must be timely and include all relative intelligence on a particular subject and meet a certain set of criteria. any product we push out must include opposing views. who is saying different? that way you get a full picture. we saw the republican memo, it didn't meet those standards. if the democrat mirrors the republican memo it, too, will not meet those standards. i think the intelligence committee fears that they're
held to a far different set of standards. >> why wouldn't the fbi, if you were concerned in the republican memo -- this democratic memo is six pages longer. wouldn't the worry still exist, if not be bigger? >> problem is, we have not yet seen what's in the memo. it could be new material they're providing, or something they're citing. >> let me stay with you and ask approximate this resignation of the white house chief of staff secretary rob porter. we've now learned through a source that porter had some trouble getting a security clearance after one of his ex-wives raised the issue with investigators. can you walk me through the role of intelligence here when it comes to security clearances? >> sure. i have no knowledge on this specific event but the process is that we hand over our
findings and it's up to the white house or whichever party is making the request to grant the clearance. we collect the information and hand it over and that decision is made by somebody else. >> porter has denied the allegations but gone on to resign. josh, secretary of state rks tillerson says russia is already interfering in the upcoming 2018 elections. you just left the fbi. what you can share what's being done right now to prevent russia meddling like what happened in 2016? >> that's the big question. you look at 2016 and 2017, there was a whole government of approach trying to determine not only what happened but what do we do in the next election? my fear is if you look at the politicization going on lately, it's a lot of noise and takes our focus away from how do we stop the russians from doing this again? my former colleagues are working
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