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>> yes, but not in the way i often hear people talk about it. i don't buy the stuff about him being mentally incompetent or early stages of dementia. he strikes me as a person of above average intelligence, who is tracking conversations and though knows what's going on. don't think he's medley unfit to be president. i think he's morally unfit to be president. the person who sees moral equivalence in charlottesville, who talks about and treats women like pieces of meat who lies constantly about matters big and small and insist the american people believe it, that person is not fit to be president of the united states on moral grounds. >> let's start over at the white house now, cnn's kaitlan collins is there. the president, he left the white house, he did not speak to reporters on his way out. but what are you hearing about the reaction over there this morning? >> you're right. nothing from the president today as he left the white house. often he'll stop and talk to reporters. but he did not answer questions about whether or not he watched this interview. people i've spoken with who know
this president well don't know how that single tweet this morning could be the last word for this president. these two men, the president and james comey have been feuding for months, and if there was any chance that that could not turn into an all-out war, it evaporated last night during that interview, that very stunning interview where james comey was publicly attacking the president and just to give you a sense of some of the things the president may be watching today as he's on air force one, james comey was asked if he thinks the president could be compromised by the russians and this was his answer. >> do you think the russians have something on donald trump? >> i think it is possible. i don't know. more words i never thought i would utter about the president of the united states, but it is possible. >> that's stunning. you can't say for certain that the president of the united states is not compromised by the russians. >> yes, it is stunning. i -- i wasn't saying it, but it is the truth. it struck me and still strikes me as unlikely.
it is possible. >> so quite a remarkable interview there, kate. though a lot of what james comey said is really what is echoed in his book, this is a president with a penchant for television, so certainly when he sees those clips, we just don't see how he doesn't respond further than he already has. >> that is a great thing to point out, kaitlan, something that needs to not be lost in this conversation, how important when you see the clips rather than read them in the book that is in the different impact it has on the president. james comey has this big rollout of interviews he's doing now. he's spoken to "usa today," they released that overnight and discussed what else struck him about trump and russia, right? >> reporter: yeah, this book tour isn't even close to being over. james comey has a slew of interviews. did another one today. speaking about the president's relationship with vladimir putin. listen to this answer. >> at least in my experience he won't criticize vladimir putin even in private. even in a meeting with three
people in the oval office. he is arguing that he gave a good answer when he said, essentially, we are the same kind of killers that putin's thugs are. and that struck me. >> reporter: the president has not responded exactly as much as we had assumed he would, especially with the stunning things that james comey was saying, but certainly his aides have been working overtime to undermine james comey's credibility here. and, of course, this is a president who says when he gets hit, he hits back ten times harder. so we'll be waiting to see what exactly he has to say today. kate? >> it is a strange feeling that everyone is waiting for what ten times harder looks like. that's what we have to be waiting for at this moment. great to see you, kaitlan. thank you very much. joining know discuss this and more, mark preston and jackie kucinich is here, cnn political analyst and washington bureau chief for "the daily beast." great to see you. mark, just looked at that tweet from the president this morning, it is a lot of what he has said
before, about comey and about clinton even before. but is it surprising that the president hasn't directly addressed the interview from last night? >> certainly some legal reasoning it seems he doesn't want to engage with what comey had said, certainly in the first 24 hours, but even if he is receiving that advice right now, kate, not to directly challenge comey on what he is saying in this abc interview, he is going to. he cannot stop himself. especially when he's criticized to the extent that you just played at the top of the show right now. what we're going to see, though, as you noted over the next couple of weeks, is we're going to see this tit for tat. we're going to see comey criticize president trump, president trump criticize comey and then what we're starting to see, of course, is we're starting to see the white house weigh in in a very vocal way, and i suspect we'll start seeing comey supporters as well. this is going to get very loud for the next few weeks. >> jackie, is there a sense at all, do you think, that the comey interview so far, the
book, that -- the book and what folks have seen, isn't doing as much damage as the white house had originally feared, they somehow think that they dodged a bullet? >> i feel like -- people are kind of lined up on james comey at this point. let's not forget, the white house is dealing with a lot right now. not only is the president dealing with this comey thing, let's take even the serious stuff like syria aside, the life and death. he's dealing with his personal attorney michael cohen who is in court today. so there is a lot of things the president -- a lot of fronts the president is doing battle on. where as someone like james comey, a lot of it is baked in. if you saw the interview, either kind of solidified the thoughts you had about comey one way or the other. now, as mark points out, this book tour is a -- there is a lot of interviews to come. if the president doesn't react to this interview, he's got lots of time and lots of different avenues which to react to in the next couple of days and weeks.
>> and so does james comey as you're pointing out, mark. this isn't just the president, of course, in his twitter followers and the fact he's president, loudest mouthpiece possible, but this is -- if you just look at this week, he has interviewed tomorrow, he has interviews today, tomorrow, wednesday, thursday speaking to cnn. no matter what, this isn't going away for either person and do you think it now becomes less about the book and now about who is going to levy the next, i don't know, personality attack? >> it is a good question because these are two strong personalities in president trump and in james comey. i think one thing that has been buried out of this interview that we saw last night is that james comey said that there were examples of obstruction of justice. if that's the case what are those examples that he knows of? if he knows of them, robert mueller knows of them. are there more examples?
if comey can refer back to obstruction of justice that he believes happened before he left, wow, that is very, very big. but to your point, kate, you are going to see this loud chorus of these two men going back and forth at one another and one thing james comey has for him is that democrats don't like james comey, but they like james comey right now because he's attacking the president. >> yeah, welcome to politics. we hate you until we need you and we love you. so, jackie, the -- in this interview, and in this rollout that we're seeing now play out, as mark perfectly points out this was an important moment when he talked about seeing evidence of obstruction of justice. do you think what james comey says in the interview, how angry this could potentially make the president, how this plays out, do you think this all makes it more or less likely has an impact at all on the likelihood the president would take and fire rod rosenstein now or the russia investigation? >> i think it is an open question. given what we have seen with the
president, he's used any excuse to undermine the mueller investigation because the president is fixated on it. it is entirely possible that he looks at this comey interview and the ones in the next couple of days, and does try to use that to make the case against rod rosenstein. now, the other wild card is how congress reacts to this. so far we have seen leaders like paul ryan just yesterday and mitch mcconnell last week say they don't need any legislation to protect the special counsel. we'll see if that changes based on how angry the president is. >> i did love when chuck todd was interviewing paul ryan on sunday, he said, it is like insurance. you may not ever need it, but you still buy it. paul ryan doesn't have an answer for that one. great to see you. thanks so much. >> thank you. welcome back. >> thank you so much, mark. great to see you. with me, a member of the house judiciary and foreign affairs committees, democratic congressman david ciccilini of rhode island. what is your take on the comey
interview? >> i think it is important to remember director comey saw the president up close. he worked for him for months. he made some important observations. and i think he shared those observations in the interview last night and i expect he shared them in his book. i think they're important oservations. the observations about the president's effort to elicit a loyalty pledge from director comey, his urging that he let this thing go with flynn, he's a good guy. these are very disturbing pieces of evidence. i think jim comey, i disagree with some of the judgments he's made, but i have never questioned his integrity. his on city. he's been before our committee, the judiciary committee a number of times over the years. i think he had important facts to share with the american people and i think he'll continue to talk about those. >> let's talk about some of the judgments he made. comey, i want to play for you what comey said about his decision to disclose that they were reopening the clinton investigation during the days before the election. listen to this.
>> i was operating in a world where hillary clinton was going to beat donald trump. and so i'm sure that it was a factor. like i said, don't remember spelling it out, but it had to have been, that she's going to be elected president and if i hide this from the american people, she'll be illegitimate the moment she's elected. >> he is saying here, that politics were on his mind when he made this call. are you okay with that? >> yeah. i don't want to -- i don't want to put words into director comey's mouth. i think what he's arguing there is that he was concerned that if he didn't reveal this that somehow after the election if hillary clinton won as he expected she would she would be challenged as an illegitimate president because this wasn't disclosed before the election. the problem with that explanation is there was an on going investigation to the trump campaign that wasn't disclosed. that's the judgment i think was in error, that was a mistake obviously. i don't doubt he was doing it.
i don't think he did it because he's dishonest. i think he made a mistake in judgment and he ought to be accountable for that. i think it is important for him to share these -- the facts surrounding these events. and i think -- >> do you think it damages his credibility, the credibility of the fbi? >> i think he's being -- i think he's acknowledging he made a judgment and people can disagree with that judgment. i think he's been very candid about the circumstances surrounding it and what weighed in the balance. i would have come to a different conclusion if i were him. but, again, i think people can make errors in judgment and still be honest, trustworthy, reliable people. i think he is that. i had the opportunity, watch him testify in person before our committee, i think he is a credible and trustworthy person. i think he made some errors in judgment. >> does he lose -- he calls the president morally unfit to be president. does comey -- has he lost the moral high ground in admitting this. because that's the reason why
there is department policy, which is, you don't even acknowledge existence of an investigation, that's how it has been for god knows how long. and he went against that. >> i think the judgment with the president's morally unfit to be president is a judgment that the american people will ultimately make. i think what director comey said and i think he's right, when you look at the false equivalency of the president spoke about at charlottesville and unwillingness to be honest, consistently, the way that he has spoken about it and treated women, those are real questions. and i think real judgments of the american people will make about the moral character of the president. i think director comey was sharing his view of that. ultimately the american people will decide that in elections. but i think the observations he's made are accurate and they're important pieces of evidence that the american people will consider in deciding the political future of this president. >> listen to one other part of this interview. listen to this. >> should donald trump be impeached? >> impeachment is a question of law and fact in politics. >> you're a citizen.
you have a judgment. >> i give you a strange answer, i hope not. because i think impeaching and removing donald trump from office would let the american people off the hook and have something happen indirectly that i believe they're duty bound to do directly. people in this country need to stand up, and go to the voting booth, and vote their values. and so impeachment in a way would short circuit that. >> congressman, you're on the committee that would consider impeachment if it came up. what do you think of what comey says there? >> yeah, i think his point is an important one. look, obviously we have to be sure that robert mueller can continue the investigation uninhibited. be sure it is free from any political interference that he has the resources he needs to complete that work. and let the facts be found out wherever they lead us. a judgment on impeachment has to be made once that's concluded. i think the underlying argument that director copy m comey is m look, it is on all of us to remain deeply engaged in the civic life of our country, to participate in elections, to
vote, to make sure our voices are heard. >> right, but his point is also it would be wrong for congress to move on impeachment and it should be up to the american people in 2020 to decide. >> well, i think what he's saying is, i don't think he's saying that should the investigation conclude and produce evidence that presents an impeachable offense, i think director comey would say the congress has a constitutional duty to move forward. we don't know that yet. we have to wait until the investigation is completed. make sure there is no interference that the president doesn't try to obstruct or impede or stop it. let it follow its course. i think that's what most of the american people want. but i think his point is, removing someone from office or impeaching a president is a very significant development. and that we have an on going responsibility, all of us, to stay involved in the civic life and political life of our country to make sure our voices are heard and elected officials are accountable. and that we shouldn't sort of short circuit this process. we need to let the special counsel continue. if, in fact, high crimes and misdemeanors are present, then congress has a responsibility to
act. but in the meantime, we all have a responsibility to stay engaged, stay informed, make sure our voices are being heard. that's an important point. >> still not sure that's exactly what he said. but good news is, congressman, he's dong a lot more interviews than he's going to be asked about. thank you. great to see you. thank you for coming in. >> thank you for having me. coming up, we'll take you -- we'll show you live pictures now, today in new york, in new york city courtroom, stormy daniels and michael cohen. what could possibly happen? we'll bring you that. plus, protests and calls for a boycott. and now ceo says he's going to fix it. starbucks responds to accusations of racial profiling. be right back.
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is scheduled to appear at a hearing just hours from now. and so is stormy daniels, the porn star he paid $130,000 to do keep quiet about an alleged affair with president trump weeks before the 2016 election and she also plans to be there. the president's own attorney will be there, asking on behalf of the president to see what the fbi swept up in that raid last week before anybody else does. so, as you can see, a lot could happen. shimon prokupecz joins me with more. friday's hearing offered up a lot of surprises. what is expected today? >> a decision perhaps from the judge on whether or not she'll grant the request by michael cohen's attorney and now as you said, the president's attorney you have the president intervening in a criminal case on behalf of his long time lawyer, his long time friend, asking the judge that there is potential -- saying to the judge there is potentially privilege information that was swept up in
this raid by the fbi that only i can wave privilege on and i need to view the materials and i need it look at them and then i will come back to you and tell you what you have permission to look at. >> it is pretty amazing. to be clear, stormy daniels is just attending. >> yes. she's just attending. she's not expected to participate. but will tell you, this judge has been fairly open with reporters and other lawyers. michael avenatti spoke in court on friday, that stormy daniels attorney. he has no role in this. there is potential if she decides she wants to address the court on something, the judge could hear -- this judge has been pretty good about keeping things open and transparent. and michael cohen did finally file what the government has been asking for a week, since the raid, who his clients are, who else is affected by the so-called privilege. finally today, we got some indications that there may be other clients and now the judge is going to decide what to do hopefully sometime today.
>> they're not listing it out, just we know they submitted it to the judge. >> they gave some names, but, yeah, not many. >> stick with me. stick with me. joining the conversation now is former federal prosecutor steven levine. great to see you again. adding to what shimon is talking about here, the president wants to review the documents that the fbi picked up before investigators. how does that, if at all, complicate things for michael cohen and what we're talking about right now? >> good morning, kate. i had the opportunity to read trump's lawyer's motion. and it is well written. it is well researched. and it is well wrong. there is simply no basis in law for trump or his lawyers to have the opportunity to review, seize materials, from cohen's office. there is just no precedent for it. and what trump and his lawyers seem to forget, or ignore, is that justice is without fear or favor. you know, if the judge were to
grant what trump is asking for here, the opportunity to review materials that by all appearances seem to have been lawfully seized, that's setting a dangerous precedent. what about all the other people who are represented by lawyers whose offices are searched by the fbi, do they have that same right? there is no basis to think they would. and so it is doubtful that a judge is going to grant trump's lawyers request and so it doesn't help michael cohen. >> also, steve, the president, we have been told, his advisers say at least that the president is more concerned about this legal action than he is about robert mueller's investigation. do you see that? do you think he has reason to be more concerned, just on the face of it, here, than there? >> well, he does appear to be more concerned, based on the tweets and the reporting that we
have seen. whether he should be more concerned or not, we're really not in a position to know. we keep hearing that michael cohen knows where all the bodies are buried. well, to the extent he does, maybe that will come back to bite trump, maybe it won't. i frankly think mueller's investigation is going to probably tell us more about some of the activities that trump was engaged in prior to becoming president than perhaps the investigation into cohen. we have to wait and see. >> absolutely do. just wait and see exactly what happens today. you said there is even more stuff coming out. >> so this morning, there was a side bar conversation that attorneys had with the judge. she has concerns about letting this out in the public. she's been great. the judge has been great. this morning they put out a transcript of the cyber. what we learned, the government
in the side bar conversation with the judge tells the judge this is a fast moving investigation, meaning the michael cohen -- they want to get moving. they have not been able to look at any of the documents or any of the information they seized last week. it is a week ago. they want to get moving. they want to get this over with. this is a fast moving investigation, we learned on friday this has been a month's long investigation. but here is what is more significant. the government revealed in the side bar conversations and they say that, quote, we have considerable amount of information about mr. cohen's activities. so this argument that this information is privileged, they're using this to say, we know what he's been doing -- >> we already know, like they already know what they're looking for? >> exactly. that's exactly right. they have his e-mails. we learned on friday they did these covert warrants to get his e-mails so they have that -- that information. they have a pretty good idea of his business dealings, who his clients have been, that's what they have been arguing in court. we know that there is only really been one client, this
idea that he needs more time to go over the number of clients he has and this could potentially cause harm to more than one person, the government right now is not buying it. their point is that michael cohen is just stalling. >> and that might also get to why when you say the government says there is a fast moving investigation, why maybe the judge was a little upset that michael cohen didn't show up in the courtroom on friday. >> that's why she ordered him to court. couldn't get answers. his own lawyer couldn't give her the answers. why is your client some she said i want him here on monday. >> great to see you. thank you. coming up for us, what james comey wanted hillary clinton to hear last night. that's coming up. your hair is so soft! did you use head and shoulders two in one? i did mom. wanna try it?
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person will pick up a copy. hillary clinton. in the book, out tomorrow, comey details his thinking behind the decision, his decision to speak out during the election on the investigation into clinton's e-mails. and in a new interview with "usa today," comey says this. >> i hope hillary clinton reed reade tho reads those parts of the book because i think she'll walk away saying, i think that guy is an idiot but an honest idiot, he's trying to do the right thing here. >> paul begala, cnn political analyst, former consultant, and cnn political commentator and strategist alice stewart. you hear that and do you think that he's an honest idiot yourself? does this interview and the book change clinton's view of him, do you think? >> no, welcome back. i missed you, my life has been just an empty meaningless void. >> not going to make my interviews with you any easier.
>> no. >> continue to butter me up. >> i do think director comey is wrong in both the adjective and the noun. he's not honest and not an idiot. he's terribly bright. what he's saying about why he tipped the election to donald trump, by releasing the -- reopening the investigation 11 days before the election, is not honest, not accurate. here is what he said. he was investigating -- the fbi was investigating donald trump. they never reveal that to the american people. they had cleared hillary clinton and yet 11 days before the election, he reopens it, tilting the election to hillary. here is is what he says, he claims in the interview in the book, i had an obligation, the word he used, obligation to reveal that. he didn't. he had an obligation to follow the rule of law and the department of justice guidelines in the seven decades practices say you don't intervene before the election, he said the obligation arises from a promise he made to congress. you know what i did? i looked at the testimony. here is what he said in july before the election, lamar smith of texas, republican congressman, asks him if the
clinton administration -- investigation, if you discover new information that was both relevant and substantial, would you reopen the investigation? he says we would certainly look at any new and substantial information. he would look at it. he did not say i would bring it to you. he certainly didn't say i would do it 11 days before the election. mr. comey, if you want to see how we got donald trump this man you think is so morally unfit, it is because of you. you look at the man in the mirror. that's how we got him. >> you could have just said no. that's all you could have said. alice, so here is another element of this i do want to ask you about. this is what -- i'm hearing the criticism of james comey and what he's putting out. the book is called higher loyalty, truth, lies and leadership. pretty lofty. in his first big interview, he was asked about his first impressions of the president when they first met. >> he had impressively coifed hair. looks to be all his. i confess i stared at it pretty closely and my reaction was it
must take a lot of time in the morning. his tie was too long as it always is, he looked slightly orange up close with small white half moons under his eyes which i assume are from tanning goggles. >> he could have just said i don't have a first impression of him, didn't matter. i was bringing him very serious information. does that -- does that undermine the more serious accusations that he's discussing in this book and in the interviews? >> yes. you want a one word answer, yes. that being said, i think, look, loyalty high road has a lot less traffic. should have taken that rut, should have taken the high road. a lot of the true arguments that he wanted to make in this book about integrity and honesty and not having loyalty to a person over the truth, all that gets lost because of what he's doing. he's become partisan and he's become petty. and the talk about orange hair and the small hands and the hair and the tie, that's just petty. that's beneath the dignity of a
former fbi agent and certainly in this conversation. his attempts to be nonpartisan with what paul is talking about, the decision to announce reopening the hillary investigation, he became partisan. he not only did that, he didn't tell loretta lynch, he kept that to himself because he wanted to protect the fbi or himself, and moving forward when he was brought into the oval office with the president and they took -- they sent out the vice president as well as jeff sessions and he felt as though the president were trying to undermine him or intimidate him by dropping the flynn investigation, he once again didn't tell the attorney general and kept to himself. in my view, those are political acts for his own gain and the fbi's gain and in my view that takes away a lot of the true points he could have made if he wanted to look at higher loyalty in the presidential administration, he looked at three different presidents, he lost it by being petty. >> paul, one thing, george stephanopoulos did ask him about the dossier, of course. and he also -- he told george
that he didn't tell trump that the dossier was funded by democrats, the clinton campaign and the dnc. he said it wasn't necessary for his goal, think i is how he put it, alerting him to the information in the dossier, i guess do guess. does that make sense to you? >> no. he should have. he should have. >> you think -- >> what did mama tell you about anything you hear. consider the source. he's the director of the fbi. he needed to tell the president-elect at the moment where it came from. i don't think that itself discredits the information in the dossier. let's hold it up against investigation. the fact that it was originally created, financed by republican adversaries of mr. trump, then when he defeat them, apparently the democrats picked it up and they paid for it. i think that's useful information. i do. i do think he should have disclosed it. i don't think that in and of itself discredits the dossier. we have an fbi for a reason t,
look into these kinds of allegations. >> this is a messy mess and just gets messier. and we have more interviews to go, everyone. great to see you alice and paul, i guess. thank you so much. all right, coming up for us, from pulling all u.s. troops out of syria, quote, very soon, to staying, quote, for the long term, the french president said he's changed the president's mind when it comes to the future of american forces in syria. so why then is macron now trying to clarify that? that's next. ♪ ♪ don't work your way upfront without it. ♪ ♪ and don't watch her dance, like nobody's watching without it. ♪ ♪ early ticket access... another way we have your back. the powerful backing of american express. don't live life without it.
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which had the white house then quickly responding, saying there has been no change in u.s. policy there. but, remember this is the president trump policy statement as of just a couple of weeks ago. >> by the way, we're knocking the hell out of isis. we'll be coming out of syria very soon. let the other people take care of it now. very soon. >> so which is it? macron is now clarifying his claims saying that he wasn't announcing any change for france or the u.s. in terms of policy in syria. so is this all cleared up now? seems like no. let me bring in cnn national security analyst shawn turner. deputy white house press secretary for the national security council, thank you for coming in. >> thanks for having me. >> are you any clearer in terms of all of this, in general, what u.s. strategy is now in syria? it is now more than -- something like a little over two days after the strikes? >> unfortunately don't think we're any more clear than we were prior to the strikes. the president's national
security team was very clear with the president that if we were going to go forward with some sort of strike, those strikes need to occur in the context of a broader strategy. and i can tell you that based on the people that i've talked to the national security intelligence space that is one of the great frustrations that they have, particularly as we talk about this question of whether or not the strikes have actually changed bashar al assad's behavior and whether or not there might be future strikes. there is a lot of uneasiness, a lot of concern about what it all means in the big scheme of things. everyone is really clear on one thing, though. that is that the president cannot continue to be in this posture of simply sending a message through some targeted strikes. when we look at number of people who have been killed in syria as a result of chemical attacks as horrific and as tragic as they are, the vast majority of people who have been killed in a civil war have been killed due to conventional weapons. so the time for sending messages
is over. we need a broader strategy. >> shawn, is locked and loaded potentially a broader strategy? that's how nikki haley has kind of described it. if assad attack his people again with chemical weapons, she says the u.s. will respond, we're locked and loaded. is that enough to deter? >> locks and loaded is what you would expect to hear out of military leader. it is not a broad government strategy, it is not an all of government approach to this challenge. so while i think that for a certain sector of the population this kind of tough rhetoric of locked and loaded, this militaristic rhetoric, it sells and makes pe s people feel likee being assertive and strong. but in terms of strategy, how we as the united states of america, how we as the international community are going to work together to lay out a road ahead for the people of syria and bring this civil war to an end to establish some stability in the region, there still is no
strategy for that. >> nikki haley also said, john that more sanctions are coming as early as today. she said, likely against russian businesses, banks, equipment suppliers. what do you think that likely will do? >> you know, look, i think when you announce sanctions early on, when they're put into place, they have the effect of squeezing countries like russia, squeezing the oligarchs and vladimir putin to a certain degree. unfortunately what we have seen is a very adept ability for vladimir putin and for the russians to find a way around those sanctions. and so i think that in this case, you know there is this kind of public perception of being strong on russia, something that this administration really struggled with for a long time and are finally getting up to speed on. in the big scheme of things, i don't think that sanctions that -- sanctions that do not specifically go after russian oligarchs that don't specifically go after putin's source of money are not going to have a huge impact.
>> first and foremost, let's see what the sanctions -- if they rule out, what they will roll out today. thank you. we're talking about damage control for starbucks today after a viral video brings national attention to charges of racial profiling. the ceo now apologizing, saying the two black men who were arrested at a store in philadelphia, they agreed to meet with him. will that be enough to end the protests? more light.
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starbuck's manager who called the police because two african-american men had not placed an order no longer works at that store. this is after the two men who were arrested agreed to meet with the company ceo. how we got here, cnn correspondent alex burke. alex, what is happening with this? people are furious. >> people are pure yfurious. this story isn't going away. at that starbuck's in philadelphia, more than 100 people showed up and they saw this apology from the starbuck's ceo kevin johnson, but they wanted to show up, anyway, just to draw attention to it and make sure this story doesn't go away. kevin johnson has been apologizing profusely. he appeared on morning tv, he put out a statement on their facebook page, he called this incident absolutely reprehensible. he said, it's not who we are and it's not who we're going to be.
take a listen. >> that in certain circumstances, local practices are implemented. in this particular case, the local practice of asking someone who is not a customer to leave the store. and unfortunately then followed by a call to the police. now, certainly there are some situations where the call to police is justified, situations where there is violence or threats or disruption. in this case none of that existed. these two gentlemen did not deserve what happened. and we are accountable. i am accountable. >> right, so he's taking responsibility there. he also explained that they have 28,000 stores around the world, and each store or each region has different standards, if you will, but there are common standards across the company, of course. johnson says they will be retraining the managers on those guidelines, but also more importantly on unconscious bias. and johnson has said, and the company has confirmed, that he will be meeting with these two men at some point. they're hoping it will take place this week because johnson
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inappropriate that he bought the booth, but for some office refurbishing, you have to tell the government if you spend more than $5,000 for those. this isn't the first time scott pruitt has been in hot water over travel. he's been known to have a private security detail that he uses for traveling. he frequently flies first class or business class. we reached out to the epa for response and have not heard back. this report coming at the request of congressional democrats who saw this first is pretty unusual. >> is there any fallout from this? epa broke the law so now what? >> that's not quite clear as there's been a steady stream of stories about scott pruitt, president donald trump has stood by him, recently calling him a good man, says he's doing a great job at the epa. as we reported, scott pruitt has been with the president because of the steady stream of deregulatory action he's taken since taking the helm more than a year ago, helping with the
campaign promises the president made on the campaign trail. >> epa broke the law, and we'll see what that means. thank you all for joining me. "inside politics" with john king starts right now. thank you, kate. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thank you for sharing your day with us. the president on the move this hour in florida for a roundtable on taxes. but with so much controversy flowing, here's the question. will the president stick to the script? plus his long-time personal lawyer is due in court shortly and porn actress stormy daniels also showing up. yes, a bit of a circus but also big legal questions as a rattled president tries to find out just what prosecutors know. and a new tweet storm attacking james comey. the