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there. matthew, born in texas of sam's first marriage to an american soldier, was a prized cast member for an isis film shoot. >> how did he come to it? >> it was not by choice. i ended up with two broken ribs after that. i fought. i fought. >> what do you remember of that day? >> it was hard. i didn't want to do it. >> moussa died in a drone strike late last year. >> and then i was able to breathe. it was like, okay, we can start phase two. >> tens of thousands fled the siege. but sam said she only felt safe at the very end leaving with these thousands. the fbi has interior viewed them. there are no charges yet or tickets back home. >> we want to eat mcdonald's. we want to live a normal life
for us again. >> instead now she is surely reliving her decisions over and over again. nick paton walsh, cnn, northern syria. >> oh, my gosh. what in conceivable scenarios to imagine living through. we want to thank our international viewers for watching. for you cnn talk is next. for u.s. viewers, "new day" continues right now. and good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day". president trump says he expects the upcoming summit to be historic. he said he is willing to walk away from the talks if necessary. and the president again says there was no collusion with russia and again insists that the russia probe is a hoax. president trump is also trying to convince the world that no one is tougher on russia than he is. even though he changed his mind on new sanctions and put nikki haley in a tough spot. this comes as cnn learns that the president is not getting the full support from members of his own party. listen to this.
there is spoefldly a growing number of republicans who say they aren't ready to back their party's standard and the president of the united states in a 2020 reelection bid. let's begin with manu raju. i know it's early, manu. but i never heard of the party in power not lining up behind their president. >> yeah. and, remember, president trump declared that he was a candidate very early, soon is after taking office. they aren't ready to endorse a bid for a second term, reflecting the deep uncertainty on the hill over the tenuous relationship he has with his party. now, i spoke to more than two dozen lawmakers who represent a cross-section of the gop. for the most part, they said it was too early to make such a
decision. the president has repeatedly said he would run. he has hired campaign staff, be raised money, held campaign rallies. this is unusual since most presidents automatically get support from their own party without hesitation. but not this time. >> are you prepared to endorse the president for reelection in 2020. >> i haven't even thought about that election. i'm worried about the midterm election. >> i did not endorse the president for the renomination in 2016. i supported first jeb bush. and then john kasich. again, i think it is far too early to make a judgment of that
type. >> i'm focused on working and doing what i do. we'll talk about what might happen. >> many reps do not think there is any room for a primary challenge against trump. this think it is a bad idea to run against him. sitting presidents were challenged within their respected parties, winning their primaries but losing the general elections. moreover, trump ran against his own party in 2016. he still maintains rock solid report amongst base gop voters even though he is historically unpopular against the broader electorate. jeff flake told me i wouldn't gauge what support there is a year and a half from now for what there is now amongst base gop supporters.
we'll see whether that makes a difference at all. >> strange days. thank you for bringing us the reporting. president trump expressing optimism about his planned talks with kim jong-un but suggesting he might walk away if they aren't fruitful. in awe joint news conference with japan's prime minister hitting his go-to defense on the russia collusion. no collusion he said five times. >> reporter: good morning, chris. president trump spent the last two days here meeting with japanese prime minister shinzo abe on this north korea meeting. he's also using his cia director mike pompeo's secret trip to north korea to meet with kim jong-un as a way to boost his nomination to be the next secretary on of state. >> if i think that it's a meeting that is not going to be
fruitful, wee not going to go. if the meeting is not fruitful, i will respectfully leave the meeting. >> reporter: mr. trump promising japanese prime minister abe he would work hard for the return of at least a dozen japanese nationals abducted by north korea in the 1970s and 80s. the president also declaring mike pompeo got along really well with the north korean dictator during their correct meeting over easter weekend. mr. trump using the news to push for mike pompeo to be confirmed as the next secretary of state. one prominent republican senator still opposes it. >> i will say this about rand paul. he's never let me down. >> reporter: meantime, cnn is learning new details about the confusion with plans to impose new sanctions on russia. three senior officials tell cnn that president trump personally made the decision to abandon those plans hours after nikki haley made the announcement in a televised interview on sunday.
>> we'll do sanctions as soon as they very much deserve it. >> reporter: closing in on his inner circle. >> there has been no collusion. they won't find any collusion. it doesn't exist. >> reporter: president trump declaring five times no collusion between his campaign and russia despite ongoing investigations by special counsel robert mueller and the senate. mr. trump down playing speculation that he could fire mueller or deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. >> they have been saying i'm going to get rid of them the last three months, four months, five months. and they're still here. so we want to get the investigation over with. >> cnn also learning another one of president trump's long time lawyers warned him that michael cohen, who is under criminal investigation, could turn against him after the fbi seized records from his office, home, and hotel room. jay goldberg said he told the president on friday, anybody who is facing 30 years never stands up.
>> reporter: today the president goes to key west with a military unit who intercepts drug smugglers by sea and air. >> how significant do you think it is, manu's reporting that he just broke moments ago, that he spoke to two dozen republican lawmakers and did not get full-throated endorsements of the president's reelection. many said they were not willing to support the president yet? >> i think this is a big story that the would you say should be buzzing nervously about. normally this isn't rubber stamped. this is a new brain or.
everyone is so scared of the base, afraid to go against him in public. >> it comes with pace. they expose themselves to some risks in the midterms if they are seen as not being part of the trump base. >> absolutely. because this is the reality. trump remains extremely popular among republican voters, particularly voters who will have enough energy and enthusiasm to show up where turnout tends to be low. this is con standpoint push and pull. they look back at their home districts. they see their support for trump. they deal with him day in and day out. and increasingly a little bit publicly they get frustrated with the type of relationship
they have and the unpredictability in the oval office. >> isn't this one of these things where, okay, before the midterms they have the freedom to say it's too early i'm focused on other things. after the midterms, when we get closer to 2020, they will all fall in line. >> i don't think they will. this is a wait and see moment. they are expecting a shell lacking. it will not increase their loyalty for donald trump. let's reality check one thing. he is enormously popular with the base. george w. bush was in the mid-90s. there is a bigger gap between support for past presidents and donald trump. >> it gets a little tricky here. it's impressive he said he talked to him about two dozen.
who has stood up against anything that he says and anything that he does. let's take the paul ryan example. i remember being impressed with how he stood up for the questions of conscience. not just being a family man. there are a lot of family men is and women who are in public is service and make great sacrifices. he would speak his truth. party be damned. now it doesn't matter what trump says. you have to corner politicians in the gop to get them to even express what he is saying could be a little bit risky. >> the number of republicans willing to do anything is extremely small. they are the out liars. >> we're leaving. >> like bob corker leaving.
even he has moved. we all hear a lot of frustration. when it comes to votes, they are basically in lock step. >> look at mcconnell. he won't even put a vote oefr with bob mueller. with this odd rationale, it would be horrible if he did. >> god forbid we did anything to protect against it as a co equal branch of government. they are afraid of trump's base. the reason his reporting is significant is it shows the thin
edge of a wedge that a lot of folks aren't willing to stand up and stand with donald trump. they think the party is about to get its clock cleaned and he may be too toxic with their own political calculus. >> from fec filings last week, one fifth of reelection funds for donald trump have gone to pay legal fees. >> exactly as nature intended. >> first of all, wow. >> it really puts in perspective where this president is right now. a little over two years from his reelection. he is consumed by challenges, legal threats. they are only going in one direction, which is increasinin. that is something republicans are closely watching, particularly if they do lose the hughes and/or the senate in the
midterms. that would really change this whole legal landscape. they can protect him a bit while they're in the majority. if democrats would take over, democrats would be under tremendous pressure to pursue impeachment. if bob mueller were to put forward reports even the slightest bit damaging to trump, you would see a real change in the dynamic in washington and the legal challenges to president trump. >> you would be morin kleined to give money because you want to fight against this russia thing. i wonder who is getting the money. >> tell us how many members we talked about. other than jay sec low. 834,000 out of 4 million. went to eight law firms. you have sec low. you have cobb. he is paid by the white house.
mcgahn, same thing. >> jay goldberg. >> the point is the president's reelection campaign is functioning as a legal defense fund. add the money coming from the rnc and campaign coffers going back. to your point, many will say i support him right or wrong. that's a party of principle to me. by all means, take my money. >> i wonder if it's becoming awe dead in. won a pulitzer prize mr. farenthold. boy, he has a lot of conflicts. he didn't turn over his tax return. >> yes. >> and that didn't even move the needle. now we know it is of fundamental
importance. >> his core support, super supporters are 28%. they're not going anywhere. but, again, even among republicans, yes, it changed numbers. it is not as impressive as george w. yes, he has a core group of support. the more he's attacked, the more he will rally around him. if you see a consist can epbt pattern of trump businesses making money off the presidency, actually taxpayer dollars going to trump businesses, that sets a stake that is not going to sit well with the american people who will finally decide the outcome. >> haven't we always said for the base on either side, if mickey mouse ran as a
republican, he would get 35% from republicans. if he ran as a democrat, he could get 35% support. >> problem? >> some of this is just baked in, absolutely. and i think this to this question of trump conflicts. i talked to democrats. they are so frustrated. they see it for trying to sway the moderates. they can't seem to break through. an amazing example got almost no attention a few weeks ago where they wrote in letter to the president of panama where he had an issue with a hotel seeking help. seeking help from a foreign government for a financial matter just blew by almost with no attention. it really is remarkable. >> it doesn't catch on. >> imagine if the clintons had a
similar thing. they would be screaming bloody murder and they would be right. it is maybe the problem in our politics. at the end of the day it's the middle 30 that determines the winners. >> basic political science. always battling for the middle 30. >> we always talk about the base. the base sticks. john avlon, julie, thank you very much. lawmakers are concerned about the white house direction or lack thereof when it comes to syria. a senator sandied a briefing on the syria strategy. how does he feel about it? next. ♪ bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens ♪ ♪ brown paper packages tied up with strings ♪ ♪ these are a few of my favorite things ♪ ♪ ♪
cnn has learned that the president isn't getting full-throated support from members of his own party when asked about whether or not they will back trump in a reelection bid. roughly two dozen senators and members of congress told cnn they're not ready to back their party's standard there. this is unusual. let's discuss with and more with republican senator ron johnson of you with wii who was at an important meeting about what the
plan is for the united states. one step sideways. an invitation to you. come up and attack the white board. we have to talk about deficit, how it will be controlled. we have to talk about that. but not today. the invitation stands. >> absolutely. i have all kinds of and graphs to simplify this. it is simple to describe. >> i never thought i would see this with the gop in power. that's where we are. i have three will you back questions. the first is will you back donald trump in his reelection bid? >> chris, you know it's way too early". >> no, it isn't is. >> listen, i understand the got
you question you're engaging here. but it is way too early" to even be talking about it. >> i am offended you see it as a got you question. but i'll put my personal feelings aside. to say you back the head of your party that is currently president. >> chris, i'm trying to do everything i can, to help president trump keep this nation more prosperous, safe and secure. it is an enormous challenge. like the situation in north korea and syria. our trade negotiations and everything else. i try to provide as wise a counsel as possible. >> i get the pragmatism. you get an amen on that.
it's toxic. would you at least acknowledge it is unusual to hear members of a party say that they are not behind a member of their party who is president? >> chris, i think it's unusual that members of the media would be talking about the 2020 election in 2018. >> only because it is surprising to have heard this response. >> is look, i'm not going to chase you because i have other things to talk about. >> let's talk about the problems facing this nation. >> that is one of the problems. if the party isn't behind the president, you will have your own divisions to deal with. >> we have been four square about hind his agenda, repeal and replacement of obamacare, reducing the regulatory burden. >> why wouldn't you back him for his reelection? >> we're supporting his agenda. >> why don't you support him for reelection? i think you're in a box on this one. the people will get the state of play.
portman, flake. all say it is is too soon. will you back any bill that comes up. mcconnell says he won't put a bill like this on the floor. grassley is working on both sides of the aisle to come up with a bill to protect mueller, to protect special counsel. would you back such a bill. >> i'm not all that nuts about special counsel. i made missed point clear on that. i would rather have the justice department handle these things from the standpoint of political prosecutions. it off times the public never finds out what happened in government. >> you have said getting rid of mueller, that that would be a mistake.
>> i don't see what it would accomplish. the investigation is going to continue. i would hike to see the investigation come to a conclusion. it is damaging to have this cloud hang over an administration. we have enormous challenges. we need to move on. >> interference by a foreign power is also a problem. >> it is a serious issue. it needs to be investigated. we should have concluded i think months ago. >> why do you think that? >> so far there has been no evidence of collusion. >> how about the steele dossier? >> was steele working for the russian government? >> listen, my focus has been the clinton e-mail scandal and the fbi's investigation, if you call it that, under that. and we're really looking forward to seeing the inspector
general's report on the fbi investigation of that scandal as well as the clinton scandal. i think michael cohen did an excellent job on the -- >> i read the excerpts of the report. i get that is something -- i don't know why you see it as a is set isoff of the fact that a foreign government interfered with our election, and you want to talk about a separate investigation that seems to have some kind of political motivation. why is it an offis set from the russia investigation? >> i'm not saying it is an offset. >> you mentioned it while i was talking about the russia investigation i'm saying we need to get the investigations behind us so we can concentrate on the is serious issues facing this nation, all the issues behind us. >> we don't know what ask and how russia did it to interfere in the election. you're in a rush to move on. why? >> we have a very good idea they did not effect the on outcome of
the election. it is very difficult to do so. i'm concerned about this. but i also like the fact that states control elections. the election machines are not connected to the internet. it is very difficult to change the results of the election. my biggest concern would be violating voter files. so many things can indicate whether or not we have had true meddling that would effect the outcome. from my standpoint in terms of the problems facing this nation, that's relatively low on the list of priorities. >> all right. good to have you on the record for that. mike pompeo for secretary of state, in and out? >> i think he is a person of intelligent, integrity. great experience. director of the cia. he should be confirmed easily. >> all right. good to have you on the record about that. syria. you went to the briefing. can you explain the u.s. strategy in syria?
>> i can explain the strategy on the strike. >> was it legal? >> i think so, yeah. >> why? >> just under the article ii constitutional powers. >> what was he doing to protect the security united states with this attack? >> the use of chemical weapons threatens the entire world, including the united states. i'm really glad that france and britain joined in to make the clear statement. we simply can't allow ongoing use of chemical weapons to become a normative experience. >> then you would have taken action against russia for what they did to that form or spy and husband kid. >> we have taken action. russia has nuclear weapons and the capability to deliver them, which is why it is important if at all possible. >> so you only use military
actions when somebody can't hit you back? >> you have to weigh it absolutely, chris. >> i know people don't like having these conversations. it's not sexy. congress doesn't want to own its responsibility because you don't want to have this honus on you and authorizing military action. article ii is clear. these people are about to attack us. i'm president. that's not this case. >> the constitution is not all that clear. it certainly gives congress the responsibility and duty to declare war but invests in the president the commander and chief -- >> the war powers act, aumf governs these situations. they don't cover what happened in syria. here's why i'm asking. >> it has never been agreed to by any president. >> that's why you have checks
and balances. >> presidents by and large comply with it. >> they actually don't. >> what governs action is american public opinion. >> that's where you come in. >> that's why mattis reportedly said we need to have military and popular sentiment. will you back the new aumf? >> i think tim kaine and jeff flake did a nice job trying to craft an aumf. i am generally supportive of it. there's kinds of concerns. >> you have all kinds of roles in this. senator, the invitation is stands. how do we get out of the deficits that are looming. >> i'm already thinking about the charts i'm bringing, chris. happy to do it. >> you work the board like no other senator i've seen. thank you, sir, for being on the
show. >> have awe great day. >> alisyn. >> president trump repeating his defense in the russia investigation that there was no collusion despite the fact that the investigation is not over. are robert muler and rod rosenstein's jobs safe? we dig deeper next. subaru forester holds its value better than any other vehicle in its class according to alg. better than cr-v. better than rav4. better than rogue. an adventure that starts with a subaru forester will always leave you smiling. get 0% apr financing on the 2018 subaru forester.
as far as the two on gentlemen you told me about, they've been saying i'm going to get rid of them for the last three months. four months, five months. and they're still here. so we want to get the investigation over with, done with, put it behind us. and we have to get back to business. >> okay. that was president trump addressing whether he plans to fire special counsel robert mueller or companity attorney general rod rosenstein. and he repeated one of his favorite lines that there is no collusion despite they have reached no conclusion yet. joining us now is phil mudd and josh campbell. great to see both of you. phil mudd, how do you hear the president's mind-set and his
response? does that mean that rod rosenstein and robert mueller are safe? >> heck no. i would look at rosenstein before mueller. if you look at the law, the president would have a challenge firing mueller. people are forgetting one key element, that is the investigation will live on regardless of what the president does about rosenstein and mueller. >> explain that to us one more time. we hear so many different opinions about that. if the president puts in one of his guys like minded with him who says, you know what, i think we're done with this, how does the investigation live on? >> well, there's a couple of elements here. if he puts in one of his guys, that person has to be confirmed. do you think the congress will confirm someone who they don't think will let the confirmation continue? let me bore you for just a moment. in the digital age, this file will live forever in the fbi.
even if you eliminate one person the files will survive for the next time. is secondly, the team below mueller is not going to be terminated. i know some of the lawyers. those guys are brilliant. he is -- the esteem he goes on the job. the congressional support to continue the investigation if the president ever does anything. i think this investigation will go on even if it gets ugly. and i is expect it will get uglier. >> try as you might, you cannot be uglier, phil mudd. >> i do. i agree with my good friend phil. if you look inside the fbi, the focus of an investigation, counterintelligence investigation is to identify a threat and to mitigate. just because you have political actors trying to shut down investigations, that doesn't mean that the threat goes away. within the fbi, and phil knows from his time there, there is a process for closing an investigation. you have to go in and affirmatively state there is no
longer evidence or you no longer see a threat. there is no box that says closed because of political pressure. >> next topic, james comey. he's on this media blitz. he went on the view and got very tough questions from all sides. >> he was fired for lying. you defended his kpaeurbg on twitter. that's okay. lying is okay internally. >> you said that you reopened the investigation into the mail serveer 11 days before the election because, quote, unquote i was operating in a world where hillary clinton was going to beat donald trump. now, should the fbi have taken it upon himself on, on yourself to guess who was going to win? that seems out of your purview when i read the book you reference trump's possible self tanning, the size of his hands,
his hair. was it worth it when we have seen that already at the expense of possibly some credibility. >> i think you're right. if i had it to do over again i wouldn't put that photograph in. >> this wasn't "60 minutes". this was the view, phil mudd. i wonder if he is regretting more than just that paragraph. he's been under fire for the choices he made and his judgment. >> well, as he should be. you can't go on the tv shows and expect where you characterize the size of the president's hands isn't going to say, hey, look, you're trying to portray yourself as the high road guy and you expect putt this in your book. you didn't expect people to pick up on it and now you're saying it shouldn't have been in there. should he have taken the low road in a few cases, and the substance. how many people on those shows
are questioning whether or not he told the truth when he characterized whether the president asked for a loyalty oath. i don't think anyone is questioning that. is it an accurate portrayal of his interaction with the president? meanwhile, the conversations have been why are you talking about the size on of the president's hands when you claim you're a high road guy. >> hold on one second. sort of that, yes, there is some interest in why he included some of those more, you know, petty, i guess, details. but you heard the women there. the women were asking, i think, interesting, relevant questions. meghan mccain was asking an important question why defend andrew mccabe, and it was then revealed why. here's the answer to this, josh. let me play for you what -- i actually have to read it. hold on. she said you defended andrew mccabe on on twitter. that's okay. is lying okay internally? here was his response. i'm going to read it to you. no, it's not.
in fact, mccabe situation illustrates an organization committed to the truth looks like. with investigated. i ordered that investigation. we investigated. hold people accountable. good people lie. what do you think of that, josh? >> well, it's true. if you think about all the people you have known that you have worked with, maybe your friends. no one out there who isn't is lied. that doesn't mean they can't be good people. in the case of mccabe, there is a process in place to hold accountable those who stray. in this case, according to the inspector general, it looks like he lied. severe action was taken, as it should have been. this is a process working. this is saying we don't care how great you are. how nice you are. if you break the law, violate these policies, you will be held to account. i think heats what comey is saying. >> we appreciate getting both of your pergts. you know this situation. the fbi and james comey well. thank you. and we should let everybody know today jake tapper will ask comey the questions others have not
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okay. so for the first time in nearly six decades, cuba will not be led by a castro, at least by name. the communist country's nationalist assembly is announcing raul castro's successor. who is he is and what does it mean for relations in the u.s.? patrick oppmann, our man in havana, cuba. you hear how i am qualifying this forecoming process. i have been a student of yours down in cuba on more than one occasion. what do you believe the promise is here to the people of cuba? is this an opportunity for real change? >> no is the short answer. it is to keep the revolution going. it he is 86 years old. he wants to turn it over to someone younger that he can keep an eye on the next several
years. what will happen that no cuban has seen in their lifetime pretty much, it will be castro turning over power, leaving the presidency of this country. we'll come out later this morning. we expect to see something that cubans never thought they would see. he is turning power over to miguel diaz, someone born after the revolution. 57 years old. when speaking, taking a much harder line as plt has taken a harder line on cuba, has taken a much harder line towards the united states saying cuba doesn't need to give anything. raul castro will stay on as press secretary. for many cubans, something they never expected to take place
the faa will order inspections of similar jet engines after investigators say a broken fan blade led to that deadly midair engine failure. debris from the engine shattered a window killing a passenger. the situation for all the passengers was terrifying, but for the pilot, we hear a stoic steadiness. here is some of the communication between the control tower and the cockpit. >> injured passengers okay, and are you -- is your airplane physically on fire? >> part of its missing. they said there's a hole and
someone went out. >> okay. that calm voice was pilot tammie jo shults, passengers praised her for having nerves of steel. joining us now is linda maloney is a long time friend of tammie. thank you very much for being here. >> good morning. absolutely. >> good morning to you. what did you think when you heard the news that your friend tammie jo shults was at the helm of that crippled aircraft? >> well, it didn't surprise me when i heard her voice and how calm she was. that's really, you know, her personality. she's very competent, very skilled pilot and i was just glad she was the pilot in command that day. >> i think everyone was. we talked to two passengers yesterday on our show. they were so grateful to her but how can she be so calm when there is a hole blown in the plane? >> right. well, tammie jo and i have known each other for over 25 years. we flew together in the navy so
her training really started back in flight school and her training throughout the navy and it continued until today. she's working for the airline. she's a captain with southwest. it's just been a continual training over the years and the military offers outstanding training to its aviators. >> i guess so. i mean, absolutely. everybody should become -- well, not a female fighter pilot but a fighter pilot in the u.s. navy if this is the outcome. i mean how much apart of her identity was being one of the first female fighter pilots? >> well, back in the early 1990s when we were flying together in the navy, it was a real interesting time period. women were not yet allowed to flight in combat and but we still went through all the same training and we had a small group of friends that forged other women aviators that forged
strong relationships, strong bond and so we went through a lot together, a lot of challenges, really great times, successes and just really appreciated the training that the military puts us through. we all get the same training whether you're a guy or a gal and i think that really set her up for her time at southwest. >> it really seems like it, linda, and it's interesting to see these old pictures of you both because the culture was so different back then. how did you both have the drive and ambition and confidence to do that? >> i think -- well, i think for tammie jo, you see it in the book, military fly moms, my book that was published back in 2012 when her story is in there. one of 70 women story and from her story you see that she really had a passion to fly and she pursued it even when she was, you know, turned away by the air force and she had the opportunity with the navy and she just never gave up.
that's tammie jo. she's very determined. she was very passionate about want to go fly in the military. >> i know that you've been in touch with her since this happened and i know you don't want to reveal your personal communications with her, but can you tell us how she's doing today? >> i think she's doing okay. we've texted back and forth and, right, obviously, she can't talk about the accident, but, you know, when i had first texted her and asked if she was okay, and she said, you know, yes, i am and her remark was god is good and that's the one thing about tammie jo is she has a really strong faith and that's the one thing that brought us together over 25 years ago is our faith and i think, you know, she really relies on him and she was just really grateful, you know, that god was with her that day and all those passengers and the crew. she was their hero that day, so i'm just grateful for that. >> oh, she really was. let me read to you what one of
the passengers said. any time i'm on a plane and there's even mild turbulence i want to hear from the pilot. i don't like when the pilot is quiet. i need to know what's happening and it sounds from this passenger's report that she was keeping the passengers, even in the middle of this chaos, she was keeping them calm. here's what they report. she was talking to us very calmly. we're descending. we're not going down. just stay calm. brace yourselves. she was so cool when she brought that down into philadelphia airport. it was amazing that we made it to the ground. your response. >> you know, when i heard her voice, i listened to the audio and it just didn't surprise me. that was just classic tammie jo and she's just a wonderful, warm person and people are really drawn to her and she's also really confident and so that just really came through and the audio that i heard, you know, and that's just was her way and i also heard that i saw in the
news that she went and greeted everyone as they got off of the airplane and that's just really her. that's just who she is. she's very genuine, very authentic person and i just can't say enough great things about her. >> we really appreciate you giving us this first person account of what your friend is like. if there's any silver lining that maybe more young women see her as a role model and follow in her foot steps, which of course is so important and we thank you for your service as well. thank you for being here. >> oh, thank you. have a great day. >> you too. we're following a lot of news so let's get right to it. announcer: this is cnn breaking news. good morning. welcome to your "new day." it's thursday, april 19th, now 8:00 in the east and we begin with breaking news. as president trump faces fire storms on multiple fronts. get this, cnn has spoken to more than two dozen republican lawmakers many of them senior senators and they