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keep our firefighters safe. that's why we ask for their help. hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. it is almost as certain as the sun will rise tomorrow along with death and taxes, of course. a sitting president announces he's running for re-election. the politicians in his party will back him. so consider this day another historic first. a slew of republican lawmakers cannot or will not say if they're backing president trump for a second term. cnn's manu raju has spoken to more than two dozen congressional republicans who are not ready to endorse the president and leader of their party. here is one awkward exchange on cnn earlier today. >> if he is the nominee, will you support him? >> again, if he's the nominee,
meaning he's won the primary -- >> if he runs for re-election, are you going to support him? >> i want to know who else is in the field. >> okay. manu raju is joining us now from capitol hill. manu, i chuckle because it should -- i don't think it should be a hard question to answer, but welcome to today. what do these republicans tell you? >> reporter: republican after republican could not answer that simple question about whether they would endorse the president for re-election. even i'm talking about not just people who have been skeptical about the president, but even people who have been in line with the president's agenda, pushing through the agenda, just saying outright they don't know if he's going to run, they don't know what his -- what the world is going to look like, and they also just wanted to see what the rest of the field would look like if there are any primary challengers. a far different cry than years past when it was typically pro forma for a member of congress to automatically endorse a sitting president of their own party, but these days they're
different. take a listen. are you prepared at this point to endorse the president for re-election in 2020? >> i haven't even thought about that election. i'm worried about the midterm elections. >> i did not endorse the president for the republican nomination in 2016. i supported first jeb bush and then john kasich. so, again, i think it is far too early to make a judgment of that type. >> reporter: will you support the president for re-election? >> again, i'm focused on working and doing what i do. and so talk about what might happen in that time is, i think, premature. >> reporter: yeah, a lot of members, kate, were saying, i'm worried about my own race. i don't want to think about the race in 2020 or they said, you know, i want to worry about the midterm elections.
well, what some members of the congress told me that, look, we'll wait to see what happens in the midterms and if the republicans have a bad day, if they lose the house, if they potentially lose the senate, expect more republicans to start saying perhaps we need a new candidate come 2020. so you're seeing considerable angst within the ranks, not just because of the president's unconventional style, but a lot of questions about where the investigations will end up, where the court battles are going to end up and what that may mean for the president's own political standing come 2020. one reason why you're seeing republicans, even surprising and awkward answer, not being able to say outright if they support the president of their own party, if he runs for re-election, which is made abundantly clear he's doing raising money, hiring a campaign manager. some republicans still skeptical. >> profiles and courage, wait until 2018 and then i'll tell you what i'll do in terms of endorsement. thank you so much. joining us now is one politician who won't be on the ballot, retired congressman charlie dent
of pennsylvania. great to have you here. >> great to be with you. >> thank you. so we -- our many conversations that you've never been a huge supporter of the president, you call him out when need be, you support policies when they agree with yours. how do you answer this question? will you back president trump's re-election bid? >> just as susan collins said, like her, i supported john kasich in the primary. i did not vote for donald trump or hillary clinton in 2016. and i'm not prepared to support him in 2020. and right now, as many have said, let's watch the midterms. i think once these midterms occur, and if the midterms are -- don't go very well for my party, i suspect you'll see a number of republicans talking about making some changes atop of the ticket. >> but even before then, what does it say that so many republicans, and i think that -- i would put you and susan collins in one category, but then you have john cornyn, john thune, leaders in the republican
senate, saying that they're not prepared, it is too early for them to even say. what does it say that those -- that those senators cannot -- cannot, won't, say if they will support the president? >> well, it is clear to me, many of my republican colleagues in congress have reservations about the president's conduct in office. i think even though there may be agreement on some policies on the deregulatory moves or tax reform, there is concern on some policies like trade, a bit more broadly, there is a general concern about the dysfunctioning chaos that we have grown accustomed to in the white house. i think that has become very unsetting and challenging for members of my party. take, for example, too, the recently enacted budget agreement and spending bill which was negotiated with the white house and the administration, only had the president come out and say he didn't support it. and he ended up signing it, but those are the types of things i do believe get members upset or with the health care bill, you
know, when i oppose the house health care bill and the president was clear about his displeasure with me for opposing it only to call the bill mean later. >> it is presenting -- a surprising moment where republicans cannot say if they have supported president and speak out supporting him, they cannot say that they would support him, kind of punting it to say we don't even know if he's going to run for re-election. listen to ron johnson, if you will. >> sure. >> it could be a completely different world by 2020. we have a 2018 election first. so, listen, i understand the kind of gotcha question you're engaging here, but this is way too early to be talking about it. >> how is this a gotcha question? please tell me. >> it is not a gotcha question. it is a pretty straightforward question. the fact is many of my republican colleagues have very serious reservations about president trump's performance in
office. it is that simple. even if there may be agreement with some of the broader policy issues. >> is this one of the reasons you're retiring? >> it is a reason that i'm retiring. it is not the reason i'm retiring. i've had -- i've been in office now for 28 years between state and federal service. i run for office 13 times, 13-0, no sane person should run for office more than 13 times. bottom line is, i had a -- i just felt it was the right time for me to do other things, but, yes, this dysfunction, this chaos, this never-ending drama is frustrating. and to be candid, it predates donald trump. i don't want to put it all on him. it wouldn't be fair. congress had a tough time dealing with some of the basics and the fundamentals. i've noticed this -- just getting -- the extremes in both parties are such now that they dominate, and it seems that the american political center is underrepresented in congress right now. we need people who have the capacity to get the yes.
more pragmatic members of congress, too many find political safety on the base. and they listen too much to the fringe elements of the base. >> more of the political center, you are all retiring. so you have announced, of course, you were not running for re-election. but you also just said you're going to leave earlier than a lot of folks anticipated. what changed for you, congressman? >> well, since i announced in september, i've been exploring various professional opportunities, and it just seems that, you know, those discussions have progressed and i have not finalized anything, i prefer to make those final decisions when i'm out of congress rather than when i'm in. >> i think a lot of people would respect that and appreciate that. focus on the job at hand first, if you would. you are one of the house sponsors of the bill to protect robert mueller, the special counsel -- this special counsel and the russia investigation. here's what the president said about firing him. here is what he said just yesterday. listen to this. >> they have been saying i'm
going to get rid of them for the last three months. four months. five months. and they're still here. >> does that change anything for you? >> well, look, the president should not fire director mueller. plain and simple. it would be terrible for country, bad for the american people, and candidly it would be bad for the president himself. this would be an archibald cox moment, a so-called saturday night massacre. it would just -- it would impact republicans in the midterm elections in very negative ways. so there is no good reason for him to fire director mueller. it would have an impact on the rule of law, people's confidence in our system of justice. so he needs to stop thinking about it and let the -- if he's -- he feels he's innocent, he should act like he's innocent. it is that -- >> you don't think he's acting that way now? >> well, i think trey gowdy said it pretty well not too long ago.
the reason we introduced the legislation, we have no expectation that this legislation would become law. it would require presidential signature. >> that's exactly right. >> we're sending a message. sending a message to the president that there are a number of us in both parties who think it would be a mistake, even republicans who haven't co-sponsored my bill, many feel that it would be a terrible mistake to fire director mueller. >> in this moment where we're asking these -- i guess we call them gotcha questions now, i know you agree it wasn't, you can count charlie dent is not endorsing president trump for his re-election is what i hear today. great to see you. i heard you say in another interview, you were finishing out your term unimposed and unindicted, in this day and age, that's a double win. >> i stole that line from my former colleague tom davis. that was his line. >> good. i like contribution. big fan of it. thank you. coming up fors yo s yous, h the president's fixer but could he flip on donald trump?
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negotiated trump's divorces from decades ago, and he told our cnn's gloria borger he received a call from the president last friday, seeking advice, and he warned the president to be careful about michael cohen because he predicted michael cohen could end up cooperating in the investigation. now goldberg also said that he warned the president that cohen may wear a wire and then finally, kate, he told the president that he should not speak to the special counsel. >> shouldn't speak to the special counsel. great reporting by gloria. the fact he spoke on the record, that goldberg is speaking on the record on this is another amazing fact. about the -- there are a lot of lawsuits. easy that we should excuse anyone who gets confused, how many lawsuits are flying around with regard to this. what lawsuits is michael cohen dropping snowed. >> this is the lawsuit he filed in new york, a defamation lawsuit, lawsuit he filed against fusion gps and buzzfeed,
regarding the production and publication of the trump dossier. cohen had sued fusion gps, a research firm, and the media company buzzfeed in january and had alleged that assertions about family ties he had to russians, which were published in the dossier, and then, of course, the very much talked about claim that he took a trip overseas to prague that was mentioned in the dossier were wrong. they damaged his professional reputation. now, today, his lawyer announced that they are dropping that lawsuit, in part, he says, because of some of the unfolding events, perhaps the new concern over potential criminal prosecution, we know that michael cohen is obviously under control investigation by the fbi, by the federal prosecutors in new york. and it seems that all of that is going to take up a lot of michael cohen's time, so that's the argument that they're making for why they're dismissing this
lawsuit. >> all right, great to see you, shimon, thank you so much. here with me now, cnn senior political reporter nia malika henderson and michael zeldin. great to see both of you. does this surprise you, first and foremost, that he's dropping the lawsuits? >> no, because in a defamation lawsuit the defense is truth. and so in a civil lawsuit, they would be trying the proposition that is whether or not it is true that he had ties to ukraine or that he had dealings in prague. and so if he has to defend that in a civil lawsuit, and in a criminal lawsuit running concurrent to it, he wants to take a fifth amendment, he has a big problem there. it is not at all surprising to me that he would drop this lawsuit. and i'm surprised frankly he hasn't dropped the lawsuit involving stormy daniels as well. but we'll see what happens next. >> yeah. wait one moment and one day and we'll see there will be new
turns there. one more quick one for you. what is the -- what surprised a lot of people, that might not be a surprise, it did surprise a lot of people, though, this conversation that gloria borger was speaking with about trump's former attorney and his advice that he gave the president, which essentially was do not trust michael cohen. and goldberg, jay goldberg said he was almost 100% sure that michael cohen was going to flip and work with prosecutors. do you think that he's right? >> well, i think we have to understand there is a p presupposition that under that advice, that there is underlying criminal conduct or potential criminal conduct by donald trump as to which michael cohen could offer testimony. >> or even any evidence that there is real -- any crime that michael cohen himself has committed, which we don't have evidence of yet. >> but michael cohen won't flip on himself. we're talking about so much whether or not he's flipping on
donald trump and -- >> okay. >> and to flip on donald trump presupposes which is something on which to flip. there is no evidentiary basis for that. so i would be, as a lawyer, quite cautious about assuming facts that we don't have any proposition to support. but, assuming hypothetically that there was underlying pre-existing criminal conduct about which michael cohen knew that related to donald trump, then i think jay goldberg's advice to him to be cautious that michael cohen might not be as trustworthy as you would hope is good counsel. >> nia, what do you make of the simple fact that the president is calling his former divorce attorney for advice on how to deal with the cohen investigation? >> i think it is classic donald trump reaching out to old friends for counsel. in this case, an old divorce lawyer. he is in many ways a person whose circle is shrinking.
he's been helping with the mueller investigation and they have left, they're trying to get more lawyers. and michael cohen, presumably someone he would seek for legal advice and legal counsel and now michael cohen is under some sort of investigation himself. it is not really surprising that he is doing that. it is something he tends to do. also, i think, it shows why he's having difficulty adding people to his legal team if he's casting about for legal advice to, in this case, a former lawyer and he clearly has some counsel around him, that might make it a little difficult for people who his lawyers to feel like he's following their advice and that they're keeping close counsel. but this is a president who in some ways thinks of himself as his own lawyer and we know that old saying about a man who thinks he can be his own lawyer, essentially as a fool for a client. but this is something that we'll continue to see from this president reaching out beyond people who are right around him
and hired to do a certain job to seek additional advice. >> and the fact that jay goldberg is speaking out on the record what do you think, is that just because he is an audience of one that he's trying to speak to? >> yeah, i mean, it is odd. he obviously had this -- you would imagine if you're the president, ideally would be a private conversation with him reaching out to him, this is sort of a friend of his and there he is going on the record to the wall street journal and, of course, to gloria borger too, likely not helpful to anything, but you do see time and time again people going out and talking to the media as to, again, get the president's attention about what he should do, talking to mueller, talking to cohen in this case. >> fascinating times, my friends. great to see you. thanks so much. coming up for us, the president decides against sanctioning russia and then the administration calls the russian embassy to let them know. all while nikki haley seemed to be twisting in the wind. why? that's next. whoooo.
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who knew what and when? that's still the question about planned and shelved sanctions against russia over the chemical attack in syria. u.n. ambassador nikki haley said they were coming. the white house said she was confused. haley responded to her colleagues with a whopper of a one liner of "i don't get confused" and president trump is now weighing in publicly. listen. >> we'll do sanctions as soon as they very much deserve it. we will have -- that is a question. there has been nobody tougher on russia than president donald trump. >> does that answer it all? with me now, elise labott and samantha vinograd. great to see both of you. elise, your reporting is that
donald trump is the one who decided to hold back on sanctions. it was his decision. but are you hearing when he decided and why nikki haley wasn't informed? >> i think he decided over the weekend, we're not really clear whether it was before nikki haley went out on those sunday talk shows or afterwards. i think that, you know, essentially she was on the understanding that sanctions were coming. it is usually treasury that lays out those kind of sanctions, maybe nobody expected from my understanding that she would kind of preview that the sanctions were going to be announced. so, you know, possibly no one thought, you know, to tell her about the actual day. i think it is really, kate, a note to self for nikki haley and any other member of the trump administration. you know, don't preview exact dates or exact times or exact policies because president trump can change his mind in an instant. >> previews are a challenge and risk. for sure. another part of this is that
we're learning that the administration notified the russian embassy that sanctions were not going to be coming. i have no idea, is that standard procedure from when you were in the nse? >> that's a hard no. this is not standard operating procedure. you would notify them of something bad happening so they could have time to get their ducks in a row or you could inform them you're not going to punish them if they have done something to deserve this get out of jail free card. we have no indication between friday night, when president trump said in front of the cameras that he was going to use all instruments of u.s. power to punish assad and his backers, and sunday when the white house called the embassy and said, don't worry, sanctions aren't happening, that russia changed their behavior in any way. they did nothing to deserve the lack of punishment and all that happened is we had a policy process train wreck and the president took his foot off of the gas pedal again and putting pressure on russia.
>> elise, at the very same time, the president is now saying of his coming meeting with kim jong-un he's ready to walk away. you heard it, of course, for our viewers, listen to this. >> if we don't think it is going to be successful, we won't have it. we won't have it. if i think that it is a meeting that is not going to be fruitful, we're not going to go. if the meeting -- when i'm there is not fruitful -- i will respectfully leave the meeting. >> fascinating. what more are you hearing about plans for this meeting? >> well, our cnn producer kevin liptack has amazing reporting this morning that it was actually john bolton, the president's new national security adviser, that is kind of inspiring him to say, you know, it is okay, you remember john bolton, so hawkish about north korea, but, now go to the meeting. if it is not working, you'll know right away and you can leave. but, kate, preparations are
going ahead for this meeting. we heard that cia director mike pompeo went to north korea and met with kim jong-un over christmas. that's giving u.s. officials a lot more confidence that this meeting will take place and that important issues like denuclearization on the agenda. right now they're hung up on the venue. they're kind of maybe about half a dozen possible venues that they're considering in europe, in asia, the north koreans really want that to be in pyongyang. i don't think the white house is ready to send president trump there to north korea. but that's where they -- they're hung up so far. it does look like, you know, these talks are going ahead, the north korean leader kim jong-un is about to meet south korean leader moon. we'll know more about the coming days about the trajectory of this meeting. it was going to be in may. probably will slip until june. >> about what the president said right there, not just if it doesn't work out, we won't go. i think that would be understandable if plans don't work out. you don't attend. but that bit of if we don't like
what is going on in the meeting, i'll get up and leave, is that part of the discussion in -- president obama was going to be sitting down with, you know, an adversary, is that part of the advice you would give, if, like, if the meeting isn't going well, get up and go? >> typically no. president obama had a lot of tough meetings with people like vladimir putin, where you deliver tough messages, the meeting can get testy. but you typically don't walk -- get up and walk out of a meeting with a head of state, but i do think that -- that a lot of us were reassured bit president's comments last night, saying he wouldn't go to a meeting unless he was confident that the right preconditions were in place. and it looks like the policy process is starting to actually catch up with the president and his comments back in march and i think bolton is part of that. >> fascinating stuff. let's see what happens today and tomorrow. great to see you. great to see you. breaking news coming in now, we bring it to you from the court hearing involving paul
manafort. we're learning about robert mueller, his boss in this, of course, rod rosenstein, and their role in the case. also what manafort is trying to do in court. let's go over to evan perez for much more on this. just in court. lay it out for us. what are you learning? >> reporter: i think you can call this the witch-hunt hearing. this is president's name didn't come up in the hearing but very much his argument that this investigation by robert mueller, special counsel, is a witch-hunt. that was the crux of the argument going on in court. and paul manafort's lawyers are simply saying that the appointment of mueller, that he did not have enough jurisdiction to go all the different places that he has gone. that, you know, the charges that they brought against him have nothing to do with russia and the collusion argument, and the government pushes back, they say that mueller has been in regular touch with rod rosenstein, his boss, that everything he has done, he's done with authorization. and then, of course, this august
2nd memo which we know has angered president trump, this is a memo that authorizes mueller to essentially look into whether paul manafort was in collusion with the russians. that memo came up and the question from manafort's lawyers is, you know, was there something else that mueller was told before this august memo. why write this august memo if he was already authorized. and the judge sort of poked some holes into this and essentially kind of backed up the prosecutors that mueller does not appear to be going rogue, that there are things when he was appointed in may, kate, he wouldn't necessarily know because of the investigation was still on going. the question, obviously, came up is why did you write this memo? why bring up this memo? the prosecutor for the -- ashing on behalf of mueller said essentially we saw that this day would come. i think they -- the reference there is there have been a lot of attacks on the special
counsel robert mueller and whether he's authorized, whether he's gone rogue. the answer they gave in court today is no, he has not. so we'll see what the judge orders, manafort is trying to -- essentially set aside the charges that have been brought against him. they're saying that there is not enough justification, has nothing to do with russia. i think the judge, from my read of it, in court today, looks very skeptical in that argument. >> all right, stand by for that. great to see you, thank you for bringing that to us. appreciate it. coming up, the man who tried to save the victim of that southwest airlines jet that lost an engine midflight has spoke out moments ago. his emotional and personal account of what they all went through up there. that's next. welcome to holiday inn! thank you! ♪ ♪ wait, i have something for you! every stay is a special stay at holiday inn. save up to 15% when you book early at hollidayinn.com
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an ordinary american describes an extraordinary ordeal. the texas firefighter who tried to save the woman who was killed during that terrifying midair emergency on a southwest airlines flight is speaking out for the first time this morning. andrew needum tried to pull fellow passenger jennifer riordan back into the plane after she was partially sucked out through a smashed window. just moments ago, with his family by his side, a tearful needum spoke about the tragedy. listen to this. >> it was a family that lost a loved one. i feel for her family. i feel for her two kids, her husband, the community that she lived in. i can't imagine what they're going through. >> cnn's polo sandoval is joining me now. you're learning more about the victim and about what happened to her.
what are officials saying? >> reporter: yeah, jennifer riordan, the only fatality involved in this deadly engine situation that unfolded on tuesday, kate. authorities here in philadelphia confirming the cause of death here as being blunt impact trauma to her head, neck and torso. this coming from officials late yesterday. we also learning of course from the ntsb she was strapped in, wearing her seat belt at the time that the debris hit the fuselage. can't see the damage from our vantage point, it is on the other side of the aircraft. that is likely what kept this woman in that plane, partially in that plane, which prompted that response from several of her passengers to rush over to her, to her seat to try to pull her back in. it took several minutes to get her back in there as we heard from that texas firefighter who was one of two men that finally was able to get her in that cabin. also, we're hearing word that the federal aviation administration is going to be ordering the inspection of the same model engine that you see
on the plane behind me here, on the boeing 737. this is something that had already been in the works even before this, especially after another southwest, very similar incident as well, this is going to call for the inspection of those fan blades using ultrasonic equipment, since these signs of a metal fatigue are usually very hard to detect unless you have the special equipment. that's really the next step here, kate. you can also expect investigators with the ntsb to go to dallas, to go to southwest headquarters to look at the records of this aircraft here to see when was the last time that it was inspected. we know on sunday they took a closer look at it. we don't know if they specifically looked at the fan blades, kate. >> how did this happen and how can they make sure it doesn't happen ever again. thank you so much. i appreciate it. we'll continue to follow the story. still ahead, history is in the making for the first time in six decades. cuba will not have a castro as its president. what that means for the cuban people and for cuba's
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history was just made in havana. for the first time in almost 60 years, a person not named castro became the leader of cuba. miguel diaz-canel just took over the job as president, though castro will still be the head of the ruling communist party and is expected to be involved in making many major decisions. still, a huge moment today. joining me now, cnn chief international correspondent christiane amanpour. great to see you. what does a cuba, post castro, look like?
>> that is the all important question. the fact of the matter is that nobody really knows a lot about diaz-canel. he's obviously a loyal party member. not like there is some sort of new technocratic revolution on the horizon. you just mentioned that raul castro will remain in an important planning position as head of the communist party until i believe 2021. and it is also apparently likely that diaz-canel will not be commander in chief, will not don a military uniform and be head of the armed forces in the same way that the castro brothers were. not a whole lot is known about him. he's apparently an engineer by training, very loyal party member. he was sort of dubbed day and night according to our cnn reporting because as he was ascending up the ranks of the hierarchy, he could be counted upon by the senior administration officials to always be there to make sure those who he was overseeing, whether day or night, were not pilfering on the job, not sleeping on the job, were just doing the job and not sort of
deviating from, you know, strict party rules. so he also, according to the u.s., who knows who we're dealing with the normalization of relations with cuba, he did not have a lot to do with that process. so it is not as if he's got a big kind of, you know, entree into the united states either. unknown at the moment. >> quite amazing, though. i was sitting here thinking, cuba seems to be one of the few places you did not go, though, for your new series. >> i did -- > so you really did go aroun the world, then. perfe perfect. >> in the new episode that i want to show our viewers, you go to shanghai. here's a bit. let's listen. >> today's mission is we want to find a beautiful dress for a date. >> i have a good chance of
getting this. i could open it more? >> no, no, no. >> this is too much? your face, you look horrified. it's just a little button. >> we are good girls. >> you're good girls? >> christiane, you are a bad girl. that is what she was telling you. >> i am. so here's the thing. i mean, look, this series has been unbelievably revealing, because it has just been about conversations mostly through the eyes of women from all those six cities i visited. and here in china, for instance, there has never been a tradition of people choosing their own husbands or wives. it's all through the millennium of arranged marriages. in shanghai, which is one of the biggest business capitals in
china, and women do so incredibly well in shanghai. there are more millionaire women in shanghai than any other women in china, and they're doing great except on the field of love and intimacy, because they don't know what it means to date. they haven't had that experience. so i was there in a dating tutorial. these two girls wanted to know how to date men. what to dress, how to be. even though they were successful professionals and had a high level of education. >> it's so fascinating. and you also go to ghana. it's so different from china, of course. what did you learn there? >> we went to the capital, lacroix, and ghana is one of the successful african nations. it's very progressive, relatively, in terms of politically and culturally. it also calls itself one of the most religious capitals in the world. it's true, on every corner you see a temple or a mosque or most likely a christian church, a holdover from all the sort of
christianity that came with missionary and beyond. but in any event, there is a whole spectrum of love, mystery and sexuality in ghana that we didn't see as much in the other places. there are so many different aspects depending on what soc l social, economic demographic you come from. so many people talk so openly. that's the most revealing aspect of this and really told us what they wanted in life. we're talking mostly through the eyes of women. >> an important part of life, which is intimacy. it's a huge, important part of our looifives. christiane, it was great to see you. button up, girl, button up. be sure to catch the series "sex & love around the world" on saturday at 10:00 p.m. right here on cnn. the senate yesterday changed the rules. senator tammy duckworth became the only senator in history to
give birth when she welcomed her second child neearlier this mon. now for the first time the senate will allow children into the chambers. this is a challenge new moms everywhere face when they're trying to work and breastfeed their newborns. senator orren hatch even asking and telling the ap, what if there are ten babies on the senate floor? we well, senator, doesn't it often seem like there's 10 times 10 babies on the senate floor? either way, we went to market. we'll be right back.
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again. >> so what i want is for a young manor young men to not be traumatized by this and instead motivated, inspired. >> help people understand it's not just a black people thing, this is a people thing, and that's exactly what we want to see out of this and some true change. put action into place and stop using your words. >> allison kosik is with me. what do they say about it? >> the two men speaking to me for the first time and we're learning they were in the starbuck's for just a few minutes before they were handcuffed. they both said they walked into the starbuck's in philadelphia around 4:35 for a 4:45 meeting. they were there to meet a friend, something they had worked on for months.
shontelle told them he had to use the bathroom, and he said it was only for paying customers. he left it at that. they sat down at the table, they were talking, and an employee walked around the corner and asked if she could get them anything. they had a bottled water already, said they wouldn't be long, but then the police arrived. the call was made about two minutes after they walked in, according to records. and after they walked in, robin said he was thinking, they can't be here for us. listen. >> initially, as soon as they approached us, they just said we had to leave. there was no question of, you know, was there a problem here between you guys and the manager, what happened? >> when you were arrested, did they tell you what you were being arrested for? >> no. not at the time. we wasn't read any rights, nothing. we were just taken out in handcuffs and escorted out and sput in put into a squad car. >> ceo kevin johnson apologized
publicly. monday he met the two men to apologize to them in person about how they were treated, but beyond that, we're not getting any details about what happened in their meeting. robin's lawyer said they're meeting with starbuck's and it's confidential. they will be closed tomorrow afternoon to give 1,000 of them racial bias training. >> alison, thank you so much. "inside politics" with john king starts right now. thanks, kate. and welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thank you for sharing your day with us. a big retreat today from the president's all-time fixer. he drops two lawsuits to investigate the lawsuit into michael