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inside the white house who are glad that scott pruitt is reliable on issue s like the climate change, but sick of these scandals. have a great weekend for everybody. thanks for watching. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, trump and giuliani, insisting his new attorney doesn't have his facts g straight. plus a federal judge slamming the mueller spres vest fwags, suggesting its only goal is to take down trump. a stunning development there and the president says a date and location have been set for his meeting with kim jong-un. but we don't know what it is yet. what does this mean for the three meramerican hostages who e not yet been released. let's go "outfront." >> "outfront" tonight, president trump throwing rudy giuliani under the bus. trump now blaming his own lawyer
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for getting the facts wrong on daniels. giuliani dropping bombshell after bombshell, including saying trump repaid michael cohen for the stormy daniels hush match up. he may be former u.s. attorney, he is a lawyer with decades of experience. he may have his heart in it, but still just learning the subject matter. >> rudy is a great guy, but just started. he'll get his facts straight. he's a great guy. >> sounds like he's like a junior associate right out of law school. he'll get his facts straight. ouch. that is called throwing someone under the bus because if giuliani got it so wrong in his interview on wednesday night, it seems the president would have called it oult sooner because
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trump did comment on his facts in a three-part tweet defending his character zayas of tizatio retainer and let his press secretary take questions for 20 minutes without el teli her anything was wrong chlgt here's what giuliani said the president told him after that interview. >> what did the president say to you after your appearance? >> president was quite pleased. we're making progress. we've been moving along. >> so, the president was pleased with giuliani accusdidn't get t facts straight? you know, now let's listen to something else president trump said twice today. you heard one. i want to play it again. in his effort to discredit giuliani. >> this start ed a day ago. he started yesterday. >> the fact is, giuliani started working for trump 14 days ago. not yesterday.
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and these two men are close. a whole lot closer than a two-week relationship, never mind a day. t they performed this skit together in 2000 for a fund-raiser. >> you're really beautiful. a woman that looks like that has to have her own special skent. >> oh, thank you. maybe you could tell me what you think of this scent. >> to be clear, that was rudy giuliani. and the relationship got stronger during the campaign. giuliani was one of trump's top surrogates and closest allies. in fact, he was the only one who would go on television and defend the access hollywood tape. the only one. he sbrusd truintroduced trump a across the country. visiteded a new york polling station with him in september of 2016. accompanied trump to his country club in new jersey after he won his lech. he was there advising.
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so to say he's only been on the team for a day, that excuse seems weak. jeff is "outfront" live at the white house and the white house. still here we are, 7:03 eastern and there's still complete confusion on what the president knew about stormy daniels' payment and when. >> the president just arrived back. did not take questions. that doesn't mean there are not answers about what went on today. when i asked the president earlier this morning as he was flying out to dallas around 10:00 in morning or so, i would how is rudy doing. i generally thought he would say fine or not answer. he went into this sort of diatribe saying he didn't have his facts right. but all these hours later as we head into the weekend after another interesting week here to say the least, there's no sense of what exactly happened with the president and mr. stormy daniels.
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rudy giuliani issue d a statemet saying the it was -- what the t piece xakts understanding or knowledge. this did little to clear it up. the president approved initially. he watches the media cover, the criticism and was not happy about that. so again, the question still remain for the president and the white house going spointo the weekend and next week about what the president knew and was he misleading the american people over all of this. >> that's right because as we know, less than a month ago, he said he knew nothing about the payment itself. so dates matter a lot here when it comes to whether he was forthright with america. thank you, jeff and now, david gergen. former federal prosecutor and harry san deck. start with the most basic thing
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here. today, trump says giuliani is just learning the subject mat r matter. like i said, first year out of law school sort of treatment. rudy giuliani tells dana bash he spoke with the president before and after the interview where he said the president paid the money back. is why is the president throwing giuliani under the bus now? we're talking 36 hours it took him to do it after defend iing him? >> because the president and rudy giuliani had a private conversation which they didn't share with other lawyers at the white house and just sort of got themselves into a deep hole. let me suggest the most obvious an it is pretty obvious, scenario is this. rudy gets together with the president. they have a one-on-one. they conspire to have rudy go out. he wants to say to him ba basically, you got to get this story behind us. it's in the cohen records. we don't want it coming out through the prosecutors that you misled the country. i've got to go out and clean this up for you. president says yes, he goes out.
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seem to play well. rudy's aggressive, president loves that, but the next day, all hell breaks loose because the lawyers now that what rudy did may have well been intentioned, but it may have made the president more vulnerable to legal attack and charges on the criminal side and may have demolished any attorney client relationship by disclosing parts of his conversation with the president the way he did. all that created a legal mess. the lawyers plus the coverage coming out forceded the president to change the whole story and now everything is confused. >> everything is confused, harry, and the reality of it is that when we get to the bottom of it here, why this is such a huge story is federal election law and also the president you know, point-blank lied. to the american people. when he said i knew nothing b about it. he said that on air force one less than a month ago sochlt giuliani falling on the sward
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today after the president defended him. everything is fine. now he says you don't know what you talking about. giuliani says my references to timing were my understanding of these matters. talk about lawyer like answer. no offense. who do you think is in the wrong here? >> maybe lots of people. i think in general, if you're a n new, not do anything to shake things up. you want to figure out what the prior statements by the other layers are. i think there's some mistakes there. however, it may be that the president authorized him to make these statements. >> whatever happened, what the facts may be, it didn't play
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well. >> there's no case for him undermining his client's case. you read a lawyerly statement. what he was walking back was his statement on fox and friends when he said the timing of the payment mattered because they didn't want it to come out before the final presidential debate. from his wife or something as a related payment. so you know, no matter what, frankly, rudy needs to be much more careful. a lot of us who handle routine government investigations would never say anything to the press about our client without very carefully scrutinizing. >> that line, that's a double whammy. it makes a serious risk of an election commission violation and makes the president a liar. i want to play something else the president said today on his
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rudy under the bus trip here. here he is. >> there has been a lot of misinformation really. people want iing to say, i say u know what, learn before you speak. it's a lot easier. >> so that's harsh david, continues to throw this case, giuliani under the bus, but here's what happened today. right? you had neil cavuto call out the president in a way the president likes to say only places like say "the washington post" or cnn or nbc or anybody else that he hates would do. here he is. >> let me be clear, mr. president. how can you bring the swamp if you're the one who keeps mud muddying the waters? didn't know about the 130,0$130 payment to a porn star. you did. i guess the you're too busy draining the swamp to stop and
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smell the stink you're creating. that's your doing. that's your stink. that's your swamp. >> i mean, he then went through issues where trump has muddied the waters. russia meddling. job approval numbers. national debt. the voter fraud issue. he went on and on and on. david, how much did that coming from fox, impact what we heard from the president today? >> i think when anytime anybody from fox parts with the president and starts criticizing, that causes the president real heartburn. neil has been a more independent voice at times on fox. i think it's very, very clear that what happened here was not rudy yule ianni's fault. what the problem was is that his client, the president of the united states, basically told giuliani some lies about what happened or i think he told him the truth. i think that's more likely that he told him the truth, actually,
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and giuliani repeated it, but it got the president in trouble and that's when everybody started blowing whistles and the president back ed way off and te president has intentionally today tried to obscure what's happened so none of us knows for sure, but there's been one heck of a lot of lying going on somewhere. >> the president as i said denied knowing about the payment to stormy daniels. then rudy came out and seemingly contradicted what he said and now the president is saying oh, no, nothing's changed. let's play these three sound bites the president, then rudy then the president today. >>. >> did you know about $130,000 payment to daniels? >> president repaid it. >> oh, i didn't know. he did. >> we're not changing any stories. >> why would rudy giuliani go on television and the reason i keep sean hannity's response on there
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is one that makes me laugh every time. he sounds so shocked and deplated. he was unprompted. sean hannity didn't ask about it. he said he paid her back. hannity, oh, i didn't know that. why would rudy giuliani do that and make it up? seems clear to me that the president and giuliani discussed this. >> it does seem likely and the fact there were the tweets the following morning essentially endorsing giuliani's statements make it seem that way. incredibly devastating. there may be a time in the future where trump has to testify. either in the investigation or deposition or what the purpose was and who can really accept if it's true. his statement will be add miss bable against trump. >> final word. >> i will say it appeared there
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are some sort of strategy. he really bungled it. >> thank you all. >> and next, a federal judge in the manafort case blasting the mueller investigation. this is a federal judge. accusing mueller's team of being out to harm the president. and we have that story. plus, will he or won't he. the president delivering mixed signals as we flirts with sitting down face-to-face with mueller. and another shocking departure at the white house today. the vice president's doctor abruptly resigning. why? your company is constantly evolving. and the decisions you make have far reaching implications.
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of course, the president loves this. you have a federal judge. who's hearing this case. saying that bob b mueller's team is out just to harm the president. this is pretty increde nl bl. what did this judge say? >> he didn't hold back. he essentially rep remanded the special counsel's team and throughout this, even his temper at times as he was expressing doubt the special counsel was following his mandate. here's what the judge said. you don't really care b about mr. manafort's bank fraud. instead, the judge continued on to say they were only interested in manafort because of what he could provide that would lead to the president's quote prosecution or impeachment. that's what you're really interested in. and the judge, he didn't stop there. he continued on to say we don't want anyone in this country with unfettered power. it's unlikely you're going to persuade me. the special prosecutor has power to do anything he or she wants.
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they feel strongly no one has unfettered power, so the judge really seeping to echo the president and also echoing paul manafort's lawyers, who have argued that the charges in virginia on mostly bank fraud and financial crimes, they don't relate to the campaign. just go too far under the special counsel's mandate. so this hearing was all for this motion to dismiss by paul manafort's team. they want the entire case dismissed against him virginia. the judge hasn't ruled yet, but it seemed like he might be siding with paul manafort's team. >> talk about a stunning development here in all of this. that truly would be a major development. i mean, the judge is also going to be given access to the memo. which lays out the special counsel's mandate. you know, more than obviously the basic one that we have all seen from the department of justice. why does the judge want this?
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>> so it's a memo and once it's given to him in unredacted form, really the judge will get the full view who have what's been given by rod rosenstein. we've seen parts of this memo. it was written in august. a large portion of it has been publicly released. what we know is that the special counsel was given permission to examine manafort's lobbying work in ukraine anotably whether he colluded with russian b officials. maybe the judge will see more what power the special counsel has and will make that decision after seeing that. >> so obviously shows he's leaning, seems like he's leaning in manafort's direction. to truly realize whether his point of view holds up. thank you very much. now, michael caputo, former trump campaign aide. he was interviewed on wednesday. so you met them. i know you described them as very professional. let me just start though michael by asking you b about this
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because it is a pretty incredible thing. a federal judge to say this. that he believes that the pross here for mueller are simply out to harm the president. >> what do you make of the judge's comments? >> i think we finally found a judge that knows what's going on here. i'm an old friend of paul manafort's. >> known him what, 30 years? >> yeah, 30 years. a lot of us who are friends of his kind of you know, share our disappointment in the system and share our anger at the special counsel. off and on ever since paul's been brought in on this and we're all elated over this. we think thises the way it should go. this is the direction that the whole entire affair should be taking. we have thought that the special counsel is overstepping its bounds for quite some time and we're hopeful this is a good sign for paul. >> the memo, see what's in it. it's crucial in this when you talk b about what the special
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counsel's mandate really is. but the judge accused the special counsel's prosecutors. you heard jessica saying they're interested in manafort because he could potentially provide material that would lead to trump's prosecution or impeachment. again, it's pretty incredible to hear a judge say this. right, an impartial observer, someone who's supposed to be impartial. when you were being interviewed this week by investigators for bob mueller, did you get that m impression? that they were looking for prosecution or impeachment or not? >> i certainly believed they were looking to jam me up. in that situation. you know, i've watched a lot of law and order on tv. i've never been in this situation before. i've got a great lawyer in dennis, our former new york attorney general. he prepared me really well, but i don't think it's b possible to prepare a new guy who's never done this before for a situation like that. they knew every answer to every question they asked me before they asked me.
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and if that's true, then they're only doing one thing there. they're looking to trip me up and i think that's what was happening to paul, too. in my opinion, they went fishing on paul way back in years before he had anything to do with the, president, before he ooempb had a gleam in his eye at the 2016 election and they're trying to get him to say things about the president which don't exist. >> you don't believe there was collusion, but when you say they knew every answer, they're trying to see are you consistent. that's what good investigators and pross do. you don't have a question if you don't know the answer. sounds like what you're saying is they're really prepared and they know sthar stuff. >> no doubt. these were three very professional men. i think at times, i got a little hot tweep us, but i think it's suppose d to in these situation. it always does on law and order.
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it was intimidating at times as well. i felt like i couldn't talk about it when i left. i would love to tell you more b about it, but i feel like if i do that, i'll get called back in again and my family's been hit by $125,000 of legal fees. we can't afford that and i can't afford to go back in front of mueller again either. >> i want to play for you this whole manafort, the judge making this comment today. the president was at the nra speech today and brought up manafort. here's what he said, michael. >> paul manafort's a nice guy, but he worked for me for a short period of time. literally. for like what, a couple of months. little period of time. >> you know, he's my question to michael. you've known manafort for 30 years. he was braukt in hebrought in ho make a difference. to win over those delegate votes and to be b the chairman. he played a huge role. okay? and the president continually
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trying to diminish role. he was the chairman of the campaign for months. i don't understand. if manafort did nothing wrong, why does trump ftry to distance himself? >> i think it's in this situation, i think it's understand uable for the president to try to distance himself from people that may have maybe you know, in a jackpot somewhere. i think we've seen presidents do that before. i don't take that offense to paul manafort at all. >> he doesn't get sold out by the president. he thinks he's going to come out okay. these comments from the judge in the case and in addition to this, you know, paul came in at the end of the new york primary. and that was at the end of april.
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he was out by august, i believe it was. the president had a campaign led by five people. >> those were the months where it wasn't clear you guys were going to webeat ted cruz. paul manafort did that. it may have been over a brief period of time. >> not at all. listen. i am not diminishing paul's role because i don't believe the president would have been nominated ed at the convention without him there. there was a lot of cha canary going on. and if it weren't for manafort, that convention would have been hairy. and ipg the president stood a chance of actually getting brokered right out of it and paul took charge of it. you know, basically put a rope around it during the committee week. and during the convention, we had a few hours of problems at the beginning of the convention, but it went straight from there. that was all paul's doing. the election was later won by another team. you have the one team that brought him in position for the
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con veng. >> nomination. >> paul brought him through the convention. >> for the nomination. >> at the convention? >> yep. >> paul took him through the convention then kellyanne, david and that team, steve bannon brought him to victory in november. whatever it takes. i don't think was a pro in this. >> all right. that's an interest iing take. thank you very much, michael. appreciate your time. >> thank you very much for invite iing me. >> and next, president trump says he's love to sit down with the man leading this. >> everybody sees it now as it is a pure witch hunt. >> up to what, 52 or 53 times? is he serious? and another white house resignation tonight. why did the vice president's doctor leave today? metastatic breast cancer is relentless, but i'm relentless too. mbc doesn't take a day off, and neither will i.
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with yes. >> i would love to. nobody b wants to speak more than me. against my lawyers because most, they never speak on anything. we're going b to be treated fairly because everybody sees it now as it is a pure witch hunt. >> okay. "outfront" now, former republican candidate for new york governor, friend of trump'trump's and joan walsh. he said he'd love to speak to bob mueller. he said that before. >> generally nobody wants to speak more than me about everything. >> add the to bob mueller. do you believe him. >> half of me believes him. bear with me because i think he's so narsistic and delusional. there's a part of him that thinks the hell with it, i'm going to go in there, tell the truth, when him over. but of course his lawyers are
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say iing absolutely not. so he sets up yes, i want to do it so badly. but only if he's fair and then he comes up with a bumpbl nch o lies. he's democrat. he's a republican. his staff is democrats. they're actually mixed. he worked eight years for obama. no, it was eight years for george w. bush and or four for obama. if he would be fair, i'd be thrilled to talk to him. >> he says that and says it with the full u knowledge of the people he listens to. not even talking about his lawyers. people he listens to are people who go on fox news and here's what they're tell iing him abou taub k to mueller. >> i don't want him to testify because as a lawyer, i don't want him caught in a gotcha moment where someone accuses him of lying. >> he should never walk into that room. >> any good lawyer would advise the president to do everything in his power not to testify
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unless he was compelled by court to do so. >> all right, so is he just enjoying play good cop? knowing he'll never do it because all these bad cops have convinced him? tell mueller you want to do it. >> i think that could be part of the strategy because he's like i'm fearless in this. i've got ng to hide. but u i think he would be nuts to sit down with mueller because it's more than a cat and mouse game now. russian roulette for one side. if mueller keeps pushing us. >> use the word russian? sorry. >> if he doesn't have the goods and goespoenasubpoena, they look terrible. if trump goes in tlpd sits through a deposition and i've had too this, there is nothing fun u about it. and they parse every word and they will get you on something. even if you're telling the truth, but you don't remember. they'll get you on something. >> someone like him who adds all kind of f things. lyinging about the bottom line. not the point. you heard michael.
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they know the answer to everything before they ask it then he comes out and makes up a claim about a poll. he makes things up all the time. >> biggest thing about the deposition just like when you're on a stand in court, you need to know where the sentence ends. you need to put a period there. stop, doept give anything else. president trump unfortunately is a comma. he keeps going on. and by the way, we go down the cul-de-sac of something else. two days ago, we counted every time the president has referred to the russia investigation as a witch hunt. rudy giuliani referred to it as a witch hunt. he said oh, doesn't have his facts straight except for one onta thing. it was 51 times. that was two days ago. that went up by eight today. just out of the president's mouth. so we're now at let me do my math. i guess, so that would be at 59. what's the strategy here? >> witch hunt? >> sewing doubt in this whole
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investigation. that story today about the federal judge coming out strongly against muleellemuelle, that they're going in in areas they're not supposed to, that they have lied to get to manafort so they can try to get to trump for a potential impeachment. that to me is a lead story today. >> he raised a lot of questions, you're right. that judge is also wellwell-kno. he's well-known for being the hardest on the side that he's going to come down and favor. so he's been devil's advocate and nobody wants mueller or anybody else to have unfettered power, rob, so i think what also when he sees the authorization, that's going to be very interesting. >> that's going to be crucial. it's not supposed to leak out. we haven't seen the full thing. thank you both and next, new fallout tonight over the president's former white house doctor, ronny jackson is now triggering another white house doctor to call it quits.
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tonight, mike pence's doctor resigning from the white house's medical unit. the timing is odd. comes just days after we reported the vp's doctor raised concern about ronny jacquksojac. manu, what have you learned about this doctor's resignation and the vp doctor had raised concerns privately b about jackson. >> that's right and the white house is not saying a lot about this. the vice president's office also just say thing the doctor, jennr pena, did resign and made her resignation known to the white house medical unit, but this came after our reports surfaced that she was one of many people who former and current colleagues of dr. jackson, the
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white house physician, the person who was nominated by the president to be the secretary of veterans affairs, she had raised some very significant concerns about his conduct. she wrote three memos last fall that said that he may have disclosed private patient information for the vice president's wife. the second lady of the united states, karen pence, and also that he may, he went after her in pretty aggressive terms and she reported to be felt intimidated by him in a very con fron tagal way, was talking to him b about what he was talking to her about what happened and he raised his objection and she at this time, ooempb felt like resigning at that time. she passed along these concerns to senior white house officials at the time. they om moved it up what they said was the chain of command but didn't really act on it despite the president moving several months later to nominate him to the secretary of veterans affairs, but this is one of roughly two dozen people who
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have come out privately to raise concerns about ronny jackson, but she's the first person that stepped aside perhaps because of the fallout of this. >> thank you very much. and of course, you know, many in the white house publicly continuing to dismiss and demean anybody criticizing dr. jackson. it's coming from the vice president's own doctor. now, frank bernie. and this isn't the only medical news out of the white house today. you have this, this whole imbroilio. her criticisms fly in the face of what the white house is still saying, which is this whole jackson thing was a witch hunt. >> this is hard to believe. there are many, many people who came forward. she was left in a position where she was uncomfortable because she had blown the whistle and you know, here we are, it's hard, normally, we would not make big deal of the story. a white house physician leaving the medical unit, pu it's hard
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not to see it as a symptom of the constant turnover, the constant drama. i think there's parenty of connective tissue between this story and the constant daily revelations about scott pruitt. the last 48 hours of rudy giuliani. when you step back, there's a real crisis of professionalism in this white house in particular and i think it's impossible not to see the story in that context. zpl also in the context here of the white house medical unit. we have a week in which we learned that the president's long time personal doctor says he dictated a letter about his health so the president's the one who said it was excellent. the most healthy president in american history. you know, his own doctor didn't even say that. it just casted a shadow on it. we're learning there's a counsel of sport, fitness and nutrition and dr. oz is on it. >> that's fascinating. while a long tradition of them bringing a celebrity aboard, dr.
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oz has been accused of rightly acting like a quack. supporting nutritional supplements for which there's no evidence. he's a less credible scientist, but he's a celebrity and trump loves people who are show men and who have been op the camera. >> and that matters more than qualifications in many cases. certainly has seemed to in other cases. thank you so much. next, trump touting that we have a date and a location for the meeting with kim jong-un, but we still, we the people, do not know what those are and a republican retiring from congress. but not before lashing out at trump. >> stop with the name calling. do you look at the white house? because a lot of -- >> absolutely. as a control enthusiast, i'm all-business when i travel... even when i travel... for leisure. so i go national, where i can choose any available upgrade in the aisle - without starting any conversations- -or paying any upcharges.
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>> okay. outfront now ted lue member of the house foreign affairs committee. the president having a little fun with that. do you think he deserves credit for not calling kim little rocket man? >> thank you, erin, for your question. let me first say i previously served on active duty with u.s. pacific air forces. it's very clear we have no good military options against north korea so i'm pleased to see diplomacy take center stage, i'm pleased to see donald trump toning down his rhetoric and i hope we have a successful summit. >> the president today as you know, congressman, said the date and location for the summit with kim jong-un have been agreed upon, but it's all set. your own foreign affairs committee, do you have any sense here? do you know where and when or not yet? >> not yet, but i don't think it's so important exactly where the summit takes place nor what week it is. what's far more important is what are the details of any potential agreement and if i
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were china i would be pretty happy right now because the president of the united states has already signaled that he wants to withdraw u.s. troops in south korea, if not now at least in the future. that would cede u.s. influence to china and i don't think that's a great idea. >> you are on the foreign affairs committee. i know your committee hasn't been briefed on the status of what's going to happen in these talks or what they know. when do you expect that to happen, congressman? >> hopefully we will get briefed next week when we go back from our week-long recess. i think it's very important that donald trump has a very good team advise him as he goes into these talks. i am pleased that we now finally have a u.s. ambassador to south korea that is going to be nominated, we are taking the nominee from australia and moving him to south korea but at least that is a start. >> congressman, the status of the three americans being held prisoner in north korea is unknown tonight. rudy guiliani said they would be released yesterday in an interview that did not happen. they are still not released
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tonight. here is, though, what president trump said earlier today when he was asked when these hostages will be released. >> a lot of things have already happened with respect to the hostages and i think you're going to see very good things. as i said yesterday, stay tuned. >> what's going on here, congressman? >> first of all, i pray for the release of those three hostages, two of those three were taken under the trump administration. there was no reason for north korea to do this. they were either teaching or doing business, north korea basically engaged in unlawful acts. i hope that they release them and it's my expectation that north korea will do that because they want to have a successful summit as well. >> certainly seems to be a pre condition maybe before the formal announcement comes out on the u.s. side. thanks so much, congressman lue. great to talk to you. >> thank you, erin. and next one republican lawmaker calling it quits and she has some tough words for the president. ♪
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>> absolutely. >> the late night drinks. for you that just doesn't work. >> for me i'm married, it's not a good testimony for me to be sitting in a bar late at night when my family is all the way across the country. i started anything out of the box how can i get to have interaction with other members and for me it was the gem. we exercise together but we also talk about legislation. >> reporter: breaking the norm, hardly new for the conservative congresswoman, born, raised and still rancher on the 6,000 acre family plot. >> we have had cattle and horses and raised our family here so we will always be here. >> reporter: noah made the leap to state lawmaker. in 2010 defeated a popular incumbent to go to congress. despite her success this is what she heard as she announced her historic run for governor. >> i had a few people tell me maybe i didn't have the right body parts to be a governor. >> really? >> yeah, but, you know, it's a small minority of folks that we just have to change their perspective and i said, you know, that's unfortunate, but
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we're going to win. >> you all have come along side me over and over and over again. well, how are you doing? >> she is as uncommon here as she is in washington. republican women make up about 10% of congress. the unprecedented surge of women running for office this year has been almost completely among democrats. >> it is sad. it is depressing and the numbers are getting worse. >> republican congresswoman ileana ros-lehtinen has represented south florida for nearly three decades. she says gender diversity is an after thought for house leadership. she is retiring this year leaving with this ominous message for her party. >> just stop with the name calling. it turns women off. >> do you look at the white house -- >> absolutely. the rhetoric coming out of the white house is a recruiting tool for liberal women to come out and counter that and as long as we are a party that is seen as
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homogeneous, not heterogenous, a party that doesn't invite minorities and women, we're not going to be a welcoming party for the future. the growth for gop women in elective office is at the local level and at the state capitals. >> why this year are a record number of women saying that they are run in government? >> you know, i think it's all about not missing an opportunity. timing is everything in politics. >> this congresswoman's time may be now. she is regarded as the front runner, pledging to govern with the innovation of a national lawmaker and the transparency of a local farmer. >> this is about a million miles away from d.c. >> this is far. this as -- i live two totally different lives, that is very true. >> you prefer a tractor to an airplane. >> i do. you have control over your own destiny. >> a path she hopes to forge at home. >> more than 45 women have already filed to run for governor. that's far surpassing the previous record set in 1994 and
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that well is expected to grow. some 75 women have publicly stated already that they plan to run for governor. erin. >> thank you very much. going to be such an important part of this story as we head into midterms. have a great weekend. thanks to all of you for joining us, a.c. 360 starts now. good evening, with he begin tonight keeping them honest with president trump's claim that someone else doesn't have his facts straight and that people should really think before they speak. pot meet kettle. it's all part of the damage control from the damage control over the president's payments to repay the payment for stormy daniels' silence. as confusing as that might sound it is a model of clarity compared to where all today's damage control leaves our understanding of actually what happened. so it all became necessary as you know when rudy guiliani who, remember, was brought in to help clean up the president's legal mess made a bigger and more rambling miss out of the stormy daniels story. until now at least