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gave so much, gave their all. what's fascinating is bringing them out going to a memorial and see their names carved in stone. they stay forever young in these cards i have. they were 20 or 30 years old when they sacrificed their life. today they would have been in their mid-30s, sometimes early 40s. it is good to remember this is why we do the things we do. and we have to respect them. >> general, we applaud your ritual that you share with us. just taking a live look at arlington national cemetery. the president will be going there today. >> thank you, alisyn. have a great day. >> you too. thanks to our international viewers for watching.
for you cnn talk is next. for u.s. viewers, "new day" continues right now. >> every time it rains the community's heart stops. >> tropical storm watches, possibly tornado conditions. >> it looks like we will have an active hurricane season. >> i am hopeful the summit is a success. >> a lot of us have been skeptical that north korea will ever agree to total denuclearization. >> he may have met his match here with our president. >> if you are smuggling a child, then we will prosecute you. and that child may be separated from you. >> they could not account for what happened to them. >> the better law to change to secure our border. good morning, everyone.
welcome to your "new day". dave briggs joins me this memorial day. we have breaking news right now. flash flooding has turned this main street into a raging river. the video is just shocking to watch what it can do to these parked cars. they were swept up by the muddy roaring water. nearly eight inches of rain fell in just six hours. the state's governor has declared a state of emergency for the entire area. it left two people did and cost millions in phapblgs. another threat days before the hurricane season is set to begin. the first named storm barreling toward the coast. alberto gaining strength, expected to dump heavy rain as it makes land fall this memorial day. we start with suzanne malveaux
in ellicott city, maryland. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, dave. cot traffic, heartbroken, historic. these are the words that people are describing. the residents, the businesses, even officials here. i know this area well. my parents live in ellicott city but on much higher ground. i had a chance to talk to county executi executive. this catastrophic flash flood is worth than it was july 2016 as of 12:30 last night, police received a call that at least one person is missing. his name is edison her man. we don't know much more about him than that. there are no reported fatalities. it there were 30 rescues carried out overnight. the old courthouse came down. one gentleman barely escaping that as well. no one this morning is being allowed back into their businesses or their homes.
it is just too dangerous. one of the biggest problems is a huge gaping hole, a gap if you will, 25 to 30 feet between elliott mills and main street, washed out, not passable. also a gas leak that occurred late hrafplt night. particularly devastating is the west end of ellicott city here. as you can imagine, i asked the county executive what is to take place here. they had a $1 million fema grant that was ready to be kicked off. they were going to do further renovations last year. he said, look, we just recovered from 2016. we can't do anymore more one or two years than we have done this time. just devastating this morning as people wake up and see what they have to do to prepare once again after two years ago a complete
disaster. >> suzanne, thank you very much. keep us posted. we'll check back with you. flooding is a big concern in the southeast as el better toe gains strength and heads to the gulf coast. governors in three states are declaring states of emergency. what's the situation there, jennifer? >> reporter: alisyn, people are getting ready. this would normally be a huge beach day, memorial day. we expect the beaches to be far less crowded, if anyone at all. no one out here this morning. however, it is quite early. the water is even coming up higher than it normally does. you can see the dark water line. it is a sloppy storm. it is not conformed.
many of people being impacted by this. georgia, california, south florida still dealing with a lot of tropical moisture being pumped in. anywhere from panama city through the big bend of florida will need to watch out for tornados. this storm is expected to make landfall later this afternoon. but the impacts are already being felt up and down the coast. a 65-mile-per-hour storm expected to stay that strength by the time it makes landfall. dave? okay, jennifer, thank you. turning to politics. could the singapore summit be back on just days after president trump abruptly canceled it? u.s. advance team traveling to north korea sunday trying to resurrect a potential meeting between president trump and kim jong-un. kaitlan collins joins us >> reporter: it has only been
four days since president trump canceled this highly anticipated summit. but the president seems to have new found optimism about the fact that the sump mitt could still take place june 12th is as previously scheduled. his aides inside the white house seem deeply skeptical of that timing. we have a little more than two weeks to go. officials traveling to north korea sunday is, the clearest sign that the meeting between president trump and kim jong-un may be back on. president trump confirming the meeting on twitter, praising north korea's brilliant potential to be a great economic and financial nation noting kim jong-un agrees with me on this. it will happen. the u.s. delegation led by former south korea ambassador sung kim meeting with north korean counterparts in the
demilitarized zone after a surprise second meeting between the south korean president and kim jong-un saturday. president moon saying kim committed to a summit with trump. a key prerequisite for talks. but lawmakers on capitol hill expressing skepticism. >> i remain convinced that he does not want to denuclearize. but he wants to give off this perception that he is an open leader, peaceful, reasonable. >> i think that the north koreans realize total denuclearization is not in their national interest. that's how they say it. >> reporter: president trump going after the "new york times" for quoting a white house official who said holding the summit june 12th as planned would be impossible due to timing restrictions. the president insisting it is a
phony source. but the remark happened during a formal briefing organized by the white house that dozens of reporters attended. the only reason the remark wasn't on the record is at the white house's insistence. president trump also continuing to attack robert mueller's investigation, lamenting that young and beautiful lives have been devastated and destroyed by the phony russia collusion witch-hunt. they went back home in tatters. mr. trump's lawyer, rudy guiliani, acknowledging to undermine the court of public opinion is part of their strategy. >> eventually the decision is impeach, not impeach. members of congress, democrat and republican, will be informed a lot by their constituents. so our jury, as it should be, is the american people.
>> reporter: so giuliani making the argument on television that the special counsel is illegitimate while the president made the same argument on twitter, somewhere he has been active the past few days. today on the president's public schedule, he will visit arlington cemetery outside washington where he will participate in a wreath-laying ceremony on memorial day. >> thank you very much for that preview today. joining us now to talk about it we have cnn political analyst and senior white house correspondent for bloomberg news and gordon chang, author of north korea takes on the world. thank you for spending a portion of your memorial day for us. gordon, what has happened since the letter? you were on here on "new day" here with us with the letter that appeared to be president trump canceling the meeting but leaving the door open. did that get north korea's
attention? >> the north koreans issued a strain of con sill tear statements saying they would accept the trump formula. they are being cynical, lying. it shows they really need the summit. in public, they said to the world we have the weaker hand here. so president trump has gotten the public relations battle saying, look, i'm the one with the power. you have to do what i said. on the surface it has all changed. here's what senator marco rubio has said. >> ultimately, i remain convinced that he does not want to denuclearize. in fact, he will not denuclearize. but he wants to give off this perception that he is an open leader, peaceful, reasonable. >> is the president getting exactly what he wants or is it
the opposite? >> what president trump wants is to have the summit. on the question of denuclearization, yes, of course. if north korea definition involves the u.s. withdrawal in order for north korea to move, we are to some extent right back where we have been many decades. for both leaders, both for president trump and for kim, there is a real urgency to show their domestic audiences that they can get in this room together. that's what is driving the train. not any expectation that kim will go to the meeting saying, yeah, you're right. please take them. no one thinks that is going to happen. >> dave's eyes popped out of his
head when he saw president moon hugging kim jong-un. >> a killer, murderer. >> -- with this relationship? >> he is a pro north korean similar fire. he wants to unify the two koreas. and he will do that on terms favorable to north korea. he is trying to amend the constitution is and take out liberal democracy. you have a political establishment in seoul which is closer to pyongyang than to washington. this is dangerous not only for the south korean people but also. we do not want moon in singapore. >> he is trying to insert himself in the summit? >> yes. >> we're told there may be a moment after the summit where
moon is part of it. >> moon will take kim's side on denuclearization, how you go about it. we want north korea to give up everything and then we will give relief on sanctions. moon will want a step by step process, which is which kim want. then the chinese want to be in singapore. it gets to be a mess. i would like to keep him as far from singapore as possible. >> this reality television style of foreign policy, you would think james clapper would be a huge critic of this, but that was not the case this weekend. hear what the former director of national intelligence said here. >> i support the letter that president trump sent to kim. i think that was a good thing to do. having done that, though, i've been long an advocate of -- and this is typical of north korea. two steps forward, one step back. that's what they always do.
kim may have met his match with our unconventional president. >> is this an effective strategy? >> they do sort of publicly negotiate in similar ways where they will use very optimistic language and then turn around the next day and say, my arsenal is bigger than your arsenal. the question is where is it all going? part of the u.s. posture from u.s. experts who have been critical of president trump over the years or spanned phultd pell administrations from both parties is that knowledge is power. several if president trump and kim were in a room and top aides are in a room together talking, that is much more insight than we have seen before from a fairly new leader. >> it will be fascinate to go see what happens on the 12th.
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least, immigrant children in homes of sponsors. some were blood relatives here in the u.s. some of them were not. now it lost track of the children. what does that mean? >> i think that's a human rights crisis. any time you split children from their families, from their mother, their father, obviously that's traumatizing, critical. and unlike what we have done as a nation in the past, and then to have 1,500 children with sponsors not blood related and saying we don't know where they are, i think that's a human rights crisis. you can stop any new yorker on any street and ask where their chiropractor are. if they tell you you don't know, they will be investigated by the agency for children services. we government have custody of those children, and therefore we have a responsibility to know where they are.
>> it sounds like we don't have the man tower to figure it out. referee resettlement has reached out to try to find these kids. we have learned 28 of them have run away. so they're gone. >> and they may be in danger. you never know whether these children have been kidnapped, taken by drug dealers or very rough people that could harm them. >> we are ill equipped to keep track of all of these unaccompanied minors. so what are we to do? >> that's a great question. the president wants massive deportation. he wants a wall built. yet we don't have enough personnel to track 1,500 children, many of which are 4 years old. these are little children. some of them are young children. and we have no idea where they
are. this puts into question. and whether or not this is severely broken and how it needs to be fixed. >> here's what the president says via twitter. he blames you all. put pressure on the democrats to end this horrible law that separates chiropractor from their parents once they cross the border into the u.s. and he names all the things he wants to get rid of, catch and release, lot skpreu chain migration. >> he is the one perpetrating this. this is close to being a crime. when you split a child away -- >> but this policy existed even during the obama administration. >> that's true. the sponsoring of blood-related families is probably a good thing. but some of them have been placed with total strangers and we don't know where they are.
we should know where they are. >> it is a bipartisan issue. >> this is more pressing. look, it has taken years, as you know. it is really complicated. in the meantime, what are democrats doing for the 1,500? >> i think they should immediately find out where these children are. 28 of them have run away. did they cross the border back again? are they still wandering around in some southern town? we have no idea. that amounts to a human rights crisis. >> it sounds like our policy is schizophrenic at best. we talk about passion for kids brought here through no choice of their own. yet we hear from the
administration what they want is deterrence. they want it to be punitive so parents don't bring them here. >> if you don't want your child to be separated, then don't bring them across the border illegally. >> if you are smuggling a child, then we will prosecute you. and that child may be separate tprdz you as required by law. >> what about that argument, congressman? >> that's easy for him to say. many families are running from very violent situations. many are coming from the triangle kupts where ms-13 is threatening whole regions. so they are "coming to america" because they feel their lives are in danger.
>> then it is the u.s.'s responsibility to take care of the children? >> the u.s. is a con of hope. it has been part of our tradition. right next to our homes you have a violent crisis, natural calamities occurring that force people to come to the u.s. and try to seek refuge. that is the soul of our nation. why stop doing that? >> you are on house foreign affairs committee. is this june 12th summit going to happen with north korea? >> i hope it does. we want to see stability in the korean peninsula. this cat and mouse game is being played. >> thank you very much is he for being here with us.
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they're giving us the material. i couldn't do it if they didn't have the material. of course we have to do it in defending the president. we're defending, to a large extent, remember, dana, we are defending here -- it is for public opinion. eventually the decision here will be impeach, not impeach. members of congress, democrat and represent, will be informed a lot by their constituents. so our jury -- as it should be, is the american people. >> all right. rudy guiliani confirming all the tweets and divisive comments from president trump about the mueller investigation are part of the bigger p.r. strategy they hope wins in the court of public opinion. let's discuss with rick santorum and former u.s. senator anita turner, former state senator from ohio and cnn political commentator. good morning to both of you. thank you for starting your
memorial day with us. senator, we'll start with you. is it a fair one? is it how you should defend an innocent client? >> well, remember, the special prosecutor is not going to indict donald trump. the reality is the president of the united states is not going to be indicted. but the president of the united states could have issues brought by special counsel that lead to potentially an impeachment. so what rudy guiliani is saying is, look, the trial we're worried about here is not a grand jury. it is not a judicial process. the process here is a political process. that's what impeachment is. the last time it was tried back in the 1990s, bill clinton ran a public relations campaign. he made political arguments as to why he shouldn't be impeached even though there were substantive arguments as to why he broke the law. the question is not whether he broke the law or not, but whether it rises on the level of
high crimes or misdemeanors and is there enough political support to maintain him in office. that's what the trump campaign is taking a lesson out of the bill clinton playbook. >> is this a stunning bit of transparency from stormy to strategy from rudy? >> certainly mayor giuliani laid it out and they are hiding in plain sight. he made it clear yesterday on state of the union what the play is. it is to win over the hearts and minds of the citizens of this country. they are absolutely muddying the waters in the minds of americans. it is really, you know, quite stunning -- i shouldn't say stunning. they are doing exactly what they are supposed to do. but democrats are fighting hard to continue to push this "outfront". it is not just this but the impact this presidency has had, the strain the presidency has had on the hearts and minds of the citizens of this country. >> senator, what else was said
by rudy is they give us the material. so we're just doing what we can with the material. here's what marco rubio said about what that material is. is it actually spying or simply a source? here's his take on that. >> but up to now what i have seen is evidence that they were investigating individuals with a history of links to russia that were concerning. and that was appropriate if that's all that happened. >> okay. so is it fair? no. >> one person's informant is another person's spy. that's how we characterize how people -- what people are doing. someone goes into an organization looking to inform the authorities. i don't think it is unreasonable
to say that person is spying on the organization. again, is it hyperbole? yes. it's not making it up. the reality is that this person was looking to see whether some people involved in the trump campaign were involved in some sort of illegal activity and that the campaign was not made aware of it. you want to take a step back. you say, well, of course an investigator would never let the person -- the campaigner or the organization know that they were, you know, they had an informant placed. that would ruin the whole idea. we are talking about the president of the united states where there might be some illegal activity or collusion. i disagree. if this were hillary clinton's campaign and the obama administration suspected something was going on, of course they would tell her. why? they would have suspected she wouldn't want anything to do with it and she would help them try to fer et it out. as opposed to what was done with
donald trump. we don't know whether donald trump and his organization would actually cooperate with us. it is a fundamental difference how the clinton campaign would have been treated and how the trump campaign would have been treated. >> nina, is that fair? >> this is deflection, deflection, deflection. the bottom line here is that papadopoulos, drunk, having a conversation, talked about the information that he had received from russians, period. all the president's men are falling from general flynn to papadopoulos to bannon, all of them. so to blame and deflect this on the obama administration or to blame democrats, it is actually the people who surrounded president trump who got this wicked, deplorable party started in the first place. and they have to own up to it. further more, the president should just allow this organization to just run its course. if he is innocent, as he says he is, if all the people who
surround him haven't done anything, then let nature take its course. no, that's not what he is doing. so it is not fair to say that. >> senator, is that not a fair point? if he did nothing wrong, why not let it take its course and ignore all the noise? >> the reality is that the investigation has taken its course. bob mueller has proceeded along, has gotten lots of cooperation with the trump campaign as well as the trump administration and gotten documents and other than interviewing the president has gotten what he needs and has shown no collusion. as donald trump said repeatedly, it is phony. there is nothing here. he knew it because obviously he was never involved in these things. all they have been able to pick out is a few underlings who were shooting their mouth off or it turned out to be nothing.
was there an attempt to obstruct justice? that is a legitimate area for the president to push back on. >> this is a long list. you have 13 russian nationals charged, three russian entities charged, three trump campaign workers cooperating with the investigation. nina, your rebuttal to the senator? >> now they are underlings. before they were top officials working for the president's campaign. the fundamental point here is the president, along with all the folks supporting him, are trying to muddy the waters and deflect, deflect, deflect. the bottom line is whether it's russia or any other foreign entity that the constitution that he took an oath to uphold that he would protect this country from all threats, both foreign and domestic, this is
part of that. as much as he doesn't want to hear this because he is making it personal toward whether or not he is a legitimate president, he needs to step back from this, allow this investigation to continue, and stop trying to label and brand everything. he is the master brander of this. that's exactly what he is trying to do. >> he has been an effective brander. we will set this aside for one minute to both of you. i want to play something, senator, you said on sunday. twitter listens. they responded. they were very fired up about what you talked about regarding 1,500 missing immigrant children that they can't be accounted for. were they lost or something more? here's what you said on sunday. >> this isn't, you know, we have lost these kids, no. they were placed in vetted homes. and for some reason or another, these parents are not -- >> this they're not lost, where are they? >> the question is they haven't
had communication with these previously vetted sponsors. does that mean they're lost? no. there is a process to see why the sponsors haven't checked in to gives their location. >> this is about separating children from their immigrant children. what is your response to that? >> my response is simply this. the department of health and human services does not have custody of these children. they place them in homes and most, by the way, are relatives. the vast majority are relatives. let's just be honest. a lot of those kids, like a lot of other illegal immigrants, don't show up for deportation hearings. don't stay in touch with immigration services. they hide -- they go into the country and they disappear. this is the consistent problem
with people, through the system of catch and release. they don't return for their court date. they disappear. >> in humane. absolutely in humane. it is absolutely in humane. >> i can't get a word in edgewise. >> it is a policy position being pressed by this president. we can talk about past administrations. but president trump has the power right now to do something about this. he's always talking about what's beautiful and what's good. well, this is rotten to the core, to treat children like this, to make them vulnerable, to further traumatize them. and another point here, that there is a profit motive here. we should not forget the profit motive, the millions of dollars they make in the prison industrial complex. it is shameful, immoral, and america should be a shamed by? ploy -- >> i think we started a whole
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for seismic shifts in social movements and conflicts abroad. five decades have passed since 12 months changed america forever. tonight "1968" explores the icons and milestones of that pivotal year. here's tom foreman. >> reporter: outrage over racially charged deaths, conflicts between the police and the african-american community, and demands for fair, equal treatment all part of a struggle for social justice now. but that modern movement owes much to the 1960s when a great many similar scenes unfolded. throughout that decade, friction had been growing in dispairs in education, housing opportunities. >> freedom comes either by balance or by bullets. >> reporter: the slaying of malcolm x, the appearance of the
"black panther"s and rising sense of african-american identity in 1968 the landmark book appeared. u.s. olympic sprinters raised their fists against racial in equality. it all came to a head -- >> the freedom of ascendant. the somewhere i read the freedom of speech. somewhere i read that the greatness of america is the right to protest for rights. >> reporter: when the assassination of martin luther king jr. in memphis triggered an outpouring of grief. protests ripped through dozens of cities. washington, d.c. exploded into four days of fury. >> at one point early in the evening, more than 100 fires were burning, some of them in an area just 20 blocks from the white house. >> reporter: today a monument to the slain civil rights leader stands near the very spot where he led marches and parade for
nonviolent change, not far from the sitting seen yann's new african-american history museum. they are both tributes to the past but also for many civil rights advocates they are reminders, too, that the passionate calls for change in 1968 are echoing still. tom foreman, cnn, washington. >> and you can tune in tonight for two all new episodes of the original series event, "1968." it starts at 9:00 p.m. eastern only on cnn. all right. so on this memorial day, a new documentary shows the aftermath of going to war. journalist
hood and sisterhood and all of these things that have made humans human for a very long time. we like to think that war is an abereration. it is universal. we try really hard to keep combat at a distance. but when we talk about war we are talking about what it means to be human. >> sebastian younger joins us now. in that little clip you raise provocative ideas that we think of it as an aberration but it has been with us forever. >> war has been part of the human experience for a very long time. >> what will we learn tonight? >> there is a particular psychological and emotional experience that people go through in preparing for war. it is true for a tribal society and industrial society like our own. there is a particular experience
to fighting war whether in a combat unit or supportive units. for both soldiers it is hard to come back. you are going from a close communal organization, your platoon to this sort of individualized modern society that is basically hard on everybody. i think a certain amount of ptsd is just the transition from a close human environment in combat to this which has its upside but is pretty disconnected. >> what is the answer for them? >> the answer for them is the same for all of us. we need to figure out how to have the blessings of this amazing modern society but reconnect with our communities. we need to live in communities. that is what we are wired for. veterans are the canary in the coal mine. we don't know what we are missing. really it effects all of us. we know as affinfluence goes up
the suicide rate goes up and that is the society. >> that is so crazy. that paradox, isn't it also just the intensity and how you re-create that intensity in your regular life? >> you can't re-create that intensity. that is something that people should be able to process. just because something was intense and meaningful doesn't mean you can't move through it and be on it. we are meant to -- we are not meant to do it alone. increasingly the society requires us to do it alone or with our family. that is very hard to do. >> what about your personal experience? you have been a war correspondent. that's a little different than combat on the front lines but not that much. you are right there. >> of course, i have been exposed to trauma. you have seen horror come down to other people. if you have a near death experience it's traumatic. but if you think about it in
evolutionary terms if trauma were incapacitating for a whole lifetime the human race wouldn't exist. so clearly as humans we're wired to overcome trauma or we couldn't have survived. >> so on this memorial day are we making any progress towards being a less war torn universe? >> because of war, because of climate change i think unfortunately in the next 100 years or so there will be a lot of conflict in the world. >> what do you want people to get out of watching tonight? >> we are a very powerful, wealthy nation and it has been necessary to go to war. i think what people need to get out of this is whether you agree with the war or not the soldiers have been sent by us. it is our war. even if you don't like it, it is our war. the moral and emotional
consequences of fighting a war are under gone by the soldiers, by the veterans but they should be owned by the population. i think this film makes it clear like this is one big group project. when people come back from war they have a lot of advantages other people don't have that didn't go to war and they have a lot of deficits. >> i think that is a really valuable lesson. i think we learned some of that after vietnam. we can be very distant still from the soldiers in our country who are fighting the war depending on where we live. >> one way of distancing yourself is over heroizing them and turning them into too much of a hero. you don't want tovilleinize them and don't want to overdo the hero worshipping. we need to engage with them as their actual experience and saying you are a hero. in some ways it is great but in
some ways it maintains the distance. we don't need two extremes of what a veteran is. >> thanks so much for previewing it with us. you can watch it tonight airing at 9:00 eastern on pbs. it's devastating, heartbreaking. >> a lot of them were trapped on second and third story floors. >> everybody needs to be safe. >> this summit is going to go ahead. i remain convinced that he does not want to de-nuclearization. >> the president h-- >> there is concern that the president is laying the groundwork to move on bob mueller or rosenstein. >> i'm saying the basis on which he was appointed is ilegitimate. >> there is only one remedy and
that is to let the investigation go on. good morning everyone. welcome to your new day. 8:00 in the east wishing everyone a peaceful memorial day. we have breaking news for you because flash flooding has turned this maryland town's main street into a raging river. take a look at your screen. cars have been swept up by the roaring muddy water rushing through ellicot city, maryland. the state's governor has declared a state of emergency for the area. officials say one person is now missing at this hour. at least 30 rescues were carried out overnight. ellicott city is no stranger to this. two years ago catastrophic flooding left two people dead. >> another severe weather threat days before hurricane season. the year's first named storm.
alberto expected to dump heavy rain as it makes landfall later today. both weather stories we have covered for you. let's start with suzanne malveaux live in ellicott city. all too familiar for those folks. >> reporter: my parents live in ellicott city, maryland. there were violent thunderstorms last night. lightning struck in their backyard hitting a bush and starting it on fire. they are okay. things are devastating here in the old part of ellicott city where the flooding was absolutely massive. i had a chance to talk to county executive who said this was actually worse than what we saw in july of 2016. if you can push in here you can see just the aftermath of some of this just the cars stuck in the mud there. it was about 12:30 and police said at least one person was missing. amazingly no serious injuries.