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you're live in the cnn newsroom, i'm anna cabrera. a horrific crash, the sheriff of demint texas says u.s. border patrol was chasing a vehicle at 100 miles per hour when that vehicle rolled and crashed. now, it was packed with people, police say who were undocumented immigrants and that last update, five of those people are dead. nick valencia is in texas and
sandoval is in new jersey where they had to shove their way into an immigrant detention center. i want to head to nick in texas. tell us about what happened and what police are saying? >> reporter: just to set the scene where we are in brownsville, we're outside of the largest children immigrant detention facility child care facility in the country. we're waiting to that group of democratic lawmakers that have been touring the border all day long to make their next stop here. we are getting news of a tragic crash a few hours north of here involving a vehicle carrying 12 undocumented immigrants driven by the u.s. citizen smugglers. according to a sheriff's office there the vehicle dispute started noon local time involving border patrol and also one of his sheriff's deputies. that vehicle was giving chase 100 miles per hour eventually going off the road catching gravel and flipping killing at least five people inside. the local sheriff's office used this incident as a chance to
highlight the border and security saying this is just another event that happens every single day near and around the border. some of you at home may be wondering what border patrol was doing involved in the situation. they have a large swath of jurisdiction, not just physical lithe border here where we are near brownsville, a few miles from that u.s./mexico border crossing. but the chase involving undocumented immigrants is being highlighted by the local sheriff as a reason of the ongoing immigration crisis and he's calling it another day along the u.s./mexico border. >> nick, have police been connecting this deadly crash and the uptick in border chaos or totally unrelated. >> reporter: that would seem to be a logical segue here he didn't say that when he was talking about this incident but he was saying it's incidents like this that put american lives every single day on the line. when undocumented immigrants being smuggled by co-yo ed smug
chase, it puts danger on the road. it highlights the ongoing crisis alock the u.s./mexico border. >> let's head to new jersey where polo sandoval is. we saw a bizarre scene play out. kind of surreal, a u.s. congressman pounding on a door at the immigrant detention center in elizabeth. what did they want and what happened? >> reporter: well, it all played out here, looking for that white department of homeland security sign out front you hardly guess this is home to about 250 undocumented people. today that group of democratic legislators traveled here to visit five of those men who are being detained at this facility. they had worked out separate arrangements with the attorneys of those men as they arrived here. they were met by this staff and refusing access initially. this is how it all played out as you describe it. a very bizarre scene. >> congressman, titled --
>> now you did wrong. now you did wrong. you were doing fine up until now. now you did wrong. what -- this is america. this isn't moscow. >> so how did all of this end? after about an hour 45 minutes, supervisors were called and police department were called. never getting out of hand but lawmakers demanding to see the five men. they made their way inside and met with the five men, three had been recently detained at the border separated from their children and transported to new jersey where they continue with immigration proceedings. lawmakers describing earlier today that emotional account from these men on father's day, not being with their -- not being with their daughters but in the meantime i can tell you these pictures are certainly not usual. we have seen this before. we saw it two weeks ago in brownsville, texas and west texas. tomorrow we'll see it in california. democratic lawmakers headed to these facilities to try to see
firsthand how some of these detainees are being treated and also calling for the stop of this kind of policy. ana? >> polo sandoval, thank you. a short time i spoke to two lawmakers who went in government facilities there processing children and family members. here's my conversation with oregon senator jeff americaly and chris van hollen. >> just visited one of the processing centers where they are putting a lot of kids and separating them from their parents. we talked to one of the moms there who had been separated from her daughter. the mom and daughter had come from guatemala. they asked for asylum but now the moms being prosecuted as a criminal and we'll be separated from her daughter. this is a deliberate and inhumane policy and we're here to say to president trump, end it, end it today. >> do you know the age range of
the children being separated? >> there's a very wide age range. i think if you -- they made a policy if you're under 5 they are not going to take you from your mom or dad. we don't really know. this is a lot of chaos down her there are some things that we can see very clearly, they are deliberately enforcing this new policy of separating moms and dads from their sons and daughters. >> senator murkily, you were talking about the processing center where parents are working through the immigration system. i'm curious if you've had a chance to visit facilities where the children are being kept and i'm curious as to what you can tell us about those facilities. >> we are going to be able to see that facility in brownsville later today. we have not seen it yet. we did see the children who were held inside here in wire mesh chain link cages.
they are 30 x 30, a lot of young folks put into them. i must say far fewer than when i was here two weeks ag i was told buses were taken away before we arrived. this is one of my concerns. essentially when you have to give lengt notice, end up seeing a little show, other than seeing what's really going on at these centers. >> there are a couple of things that i hope you can shed light on because one of the things that we know is happening is that they are prosecuting everybody who is crossing the border illegally leading to families being separated. do either of you know whether any of the families going through this are actually coming through the points of entry seeking asylum or all of them crossing the border elsewhere hence making it illegal? >> yes, here's what's going on. it's a comprehensive strategy preventing people from seeking asylum. so at the bridges, those who already have documents, passports so forth are let in while those seeking asylum
are kept between mexico and the united states. then we've talked to those who work with refugees and talked about people being in the no man's land for six or seven or eight -- a "washington post" report of nine days. we talked to a lawyer, pro bono lawyer talked to families there 12 days. they are not being let in easily at the official border points where it's legal to assert asylum. other families are saying, we can't be in the heat. i'm sitting here sweating a lot. can you imagine being out here nine or ten days waiting without a supply of food and water? and so they are going to cross the boardser and that's where the administration is saying they broke the law crossing the border outside the border checkpoint. now we'll arrest them and treat them as criminal and take their kids away. i have also heard of a number of stories of people who did cross at the official checkpoints who have already been charged with a crime and separated from their children. >> i asked mr. padilla, the officer in charge here at the processing facility.
whether any of the kids there had been separated from their parents after coming across a legal point of entry. and his rponse was he didn't know. he didn't know if that kind of separation was happening, what we do know that those waiting for a long time to try and come across the official points of entry, they are backed up for days and days. they he somebody to take them across the river and bang they can get them and separate them immediately from their moms and dads and children and sons and daughters from moms and dads. >> as you know -- >> we want to emphasize. -- emphasize that regardless of how well kids are cared for at a detention center, it is inflicting enormous trauma on the children and enormous angst on the parents to engage in family separation. there is no need at all -- no justification of any kind for doing so people await asylum
hearings. >> let me ask you this -- >> the other thing -- you mentioned that that children older than five years old are the ones being separated. but then we're also hearing reports of a mother who was breast feeding when her child was taken from her. do you believe that to be true or is that a report that was a rumor that got out and is untrue? >> based on our conversations with the attorneys here and some of the other folks helping people asking for there's no doubt that this is sort of a chaotic process. and i believe those reports are very credible. we also heard reports about moms and dads being told their kids had to be taken to take a bath then never return. i think the bottom line here, that this is a deliberate policy and this is a choice that president trump made. there's no law despite what he says and how often he says it. there's no law that requires
this inhumane policy and they should end it today. >> he is blaming democrats for what's happening there. senator merkley, how do you respond? >> the president has no credibility on this topic. there's no new law that caused this, no law passed by democrats, it's administrative policy that they started considering according to the press reports when he first came into office. thn they started a pilot project last summer and told the american people they weren't separating kids. then they said they were doing it to protect them from smugglers. how is it possible that a parent with a child safe here in the united states is being protected from a smuggler by separating that person from the child? then the president couple days ago said there's another value of this policy and that is it gives him leverage with legislation. let me just say, that to hurt children, to get leverage on legislation, is evil and
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he wants big money for the info. waste of time. the russian way, anything at all interesting? stone, no. before today stone claimed he never met with any russians during the campaign. >> russia, i didn't talk to anybody who was identifiably rigs during the two-year run-up to this campaign. i'm not sure i did previously either. i very definitely can't think of anybody who might have been a russian without my knowledge. i think it's a kinard. >> both stone and caputo failed to tell congressional investigators about this meeting. it was only after robert mueller's team showed caputo his text messages with stone during an interview back in may that his memory was refreshed. here's what caputo told cnn hours after the interview with mueller's investigators in which we know he was shown these texts. >> the mueller team knew about more what i did in 2016 than i
knew myself. and i think they know more about the trump campaign than anyone that ever worked there. these guys have got every single e-mail and any that's eve gone down and they are clearly focused on trying to identify some russian collusion. >> today caputo and stone claim the russian national was an fbi informant. while the russian claims he was an fbi informant years ago, he denies he was working with the fbi at the time of this meeting with stone. let's discuss. joining us, former white house counsel for president clinton, jack quinn and political comment ator ken cuccinelli. why do we keep learning about meetings with russians that the trump team failed to disclose because they seem to not recall an awful lot of things that involve russians. >> well, i will say that in a campaign at their level and remember by may of 2016, they had the nomination locked up.
so trump was effectively the nominee. they get a ton of people coming in and telling them i've got the silver bullet for you to win this race, whether it's a policy or dirt on hillary or what have you, this russian had the interestingly american name of henry something or the other, not like as you saw in the text, nothing came of it. i'm not going to defend either of them for not remembering this or remembering it and not revealing it, whichever was the case. but i will say that in that level of campaign and remember the trump campaign in particular was notably chaotic, it doesn't really surprise me that this didn't surface until mueller found the electronic evidence of it. and -- >> it seems awfully ironic at the very least -- >> i thought the comments thought the comments about
mueller knowing more about what he was doing than he did, was very telling. >> well, what's really interesting though, according to the "washington post," by their count it's 11 members of the trump campaign or trump associates who did not disclose contacts with russians during the 2016 campaign. and we do know that hope hicks, speaking on behalf of the president or candidate trump at the time, she said there was zero contact with russians. do you think this is all a coincidence that everybody forgot this? >> no, i don't. it's really concerning. i don't want to come to a conclusion about any single -- any one of these people individually, but look, this is -- i think what's clear here is that the people iolved wanted to be ahead of the story and knew this was going to be coming out and wanted to get it out themselves, but look, i've
been in a lot of campaigns and most of them by the way were not successful. but whether successful or not, i don't ever recall a meeting in which i was offered a transaction that would cost $2 million for dirt on an opposition candidate. you don't forget that. if you do routinely forget that, i would sure love to find out how many such offers were made to the trump campaign, that would be mighty interesting. it's not a forgettable thing. it really does stretch kred you'llty. the other thing is, importantly, if you have somebody coming who is clearly bringing to bear foreign connections, why don't you report that to law enforcement? i mean, that is a reportable activity. now, it's not criminal not reporting it but it is
unbelievably irresponsible not to report to the fbi or to other law enforcement officials that a foreign agent has come to you and made an offer like that. >> but to ken's point, the text messages do seem to back up the assertion that nothing came of this meeting. does that matter? in and of itself it may not matter but remember how -- had the trump tower meeting didn't matter either until we found out more about it. let's not forget that in that incident, we had people who said with a bunch of russians but nothing came of it. they came in and had nothing really very important to say. we later learned that in fact, a completely false and phony press release was issued characterizing that as a meeting the subject of which was adoptions. here's what's important i
suspect to the special counsel people, however innocent they may say these things are, mischaracterize them purposefully and conceal them. and act as if they have guilty minds. and if they are wholly innocent here, they have only themselves to blame. not some nefarious setup that's going on where people are trying to entrap them. they have only themselves to blame. for creating the guilty appearance that has raised the antenna of law enforcement and robert mueller in particular. >> well, hopefully robert mueller's team will get to the bottom of it. >> if they are innocent and that will be proven. let me move on to pardons for a second. ken, we have giuliani who keeps saying president trump is not going to -- caught up in the mueller investigation. why do you think he keeps talking about it? >> well, he -- to put if in
terms my kids made, he didn't start it. i mean, this started with discussion of michael flynn and so forth long before juligiulia ever came on board. it's used as an attack on the president by implication and it's become its own subject of the discussion. i don't think -- it's not like he's coming at this out of the blue. he's responding to discussion that's been taking place in the mainstream media, which the media largely initiated. >> i'm sorry, ken, i have to stop you. first person to raise this was john dowd, the one who floated the idea of pardoning paul man ma fort. he was the one who started this whole and it got -- that was -- that's how it was initiated and it took on a life of its own then and amped up significantly as you well know by the president's issuance of pardons and again, i'm not coming to any conclusions here. but to all of this, i say, it
couldn't be clearer than what we need to do is let the special counsel do his job without either political or legal obstruction, including by the issue aenance of pa let me ask . your point is well taken about giuliani being asked about the pardoning issue, especially because the president has been issuing a lot of pardons lately. if you're giuliani, what do you say? what is the approiate response to that question? >> i think the appropriate response is to step back to the constitutional level and the president has this pardoning power and presuming this is yul yanni's state of mind, i have no understanding of any intention on his part to use it as it relates to anybody in this case. he's correct, there have been a series of pardons issues lately
but not related to russia of any way. a lot of criminal justice reform which i also work on. we've seen a lot in that area but nothing in the russia collusion investigation area. i do think it would be better if advertise own team stepped back from t discussiven when people bring it to them, that is not been their habit, nor the president's himself. but it would be a better way to handle the subject matter. >> ken cuccinelli, i have to end it there. thank you, both. appreciate your expertise, thank you for being here. >> from a trade war with china to a mega media merger, christine roman has everything to do before the opening bell on wall street. hi, christine. >> hi, ana. china noungsed retaliation after the trump administration announced tariffs on $50 billion worth of chinese goods. china accused the united states of launching a trade war and dow
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work on but doesn't deviate all that much. as usual with the first lady, there's a compassion to at least her language, the language her office is using that we don't necessarily always find in the president's tweets for example. >> and kate, we haven't seen the first lady in public for quite some time which makes the statement today a little more surprising. >> that's right, she doesn't really weigh in that much on these policy issues and sort of the headline grabbing issues. she certainly has made her platform and made it known she wants to help children and be best platform and certain ways visiting hospitals and schools, et cetera, this border issue, immigration issue is rare to hear from her. we haven't seen that much of her. she had a kidney procedure back in may. she's made a few public appearances since then but certainly weighing in on this topic, in the midst of it as saying that she hates to see something the country should govern more with heart certainly something she felt positive
about saying and something she wanted to get out there. she's not a big speaker -- public speaker, big speech maker. certainly this feels like a topic that has touched her. >> made children a big part of her platform. kate bennett at the white house, thank you. coming up -- it's father's day, kamau bell is spending time with his dad. how has the south change since he left 30 years ago. "united shades of america" preview next. with t-mobile, the whole family can stay connected with new iphones. which is great, unless your parents thought you were studying. aren't exams this week? somebody's busted. right now, at t-mobile, buy an iphone 8, get an iphone 8 on us. all on america's best unlimited network. only at t-mobile.
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but my dad's is way more impressive. he was the insurance commissioner for alabama, which made him the highest ranking black person in alab he was the first alabaman to become the president of the national association of insurance commissioners and met with multiple presidents, clinton, obama -- nope. but before all of that, he was a struggling artist in the bay area. that's where i got that from. but his life started in a shack in alabama 100 miles outside of mobile. a population of 312 and it is on land that my family still owns, right off of -- don't get too impressed -- bell road. >> kamau bell joins me now from oakland, california. happy father's day first of all. >> thank you very much. >> what was it like to have your father right there with you as you took a look back on your family's southern roots? >> i mean for him he was kind of like finally put me on your
show. he was waiting for this moment. happy father's day dad. but it's -- we've had conversations about it but the great thing about having the platform i have is that i was able to sit down and have really direct conversations about things we hadn't talked about before, why you choose to live in mobile alabama. he lived in new york and traveled around the world but he loves mobile. >> why was it? why is it that he loves it there? >> i think it means a lot to know how far he's come. we were at the shack he was born in uncorporated county, a place where his father and mom just moved to mobile because it was a big city where there were jobs and hoping to make a living. my dad coming from this unincorporated community to be one of the leaders of alabama -- as the insurance commissioner is a big deal. he like being able to so where he came from and how far he's come. >> your father was the highest ranking african-american in the state of alabama. what inspires you most about him and his success?
>> that he never -- i mean on the show we talk about racism a lot and polls of racism on people of color in this country. my dad understands all of that but always believed he could outrun it. it doesn't mean- he isn't affected by racism and doesn't believe in racism, it means that he sort of had that idea that i'm going to have to work twice as hard to get what i want and he's achieved as well as anybody in the planet ever achieved in their life, especially coming from where he came from. >> americans tend to generalize thinking it's all the same. what are some of the major differences you found across the region? >> i think yeah, people who live outside of the south tend to call it the south and people in the south lean into that too. if you're in atlanta, where cnn is based, that's a major city that has all of the stuff and huge lgbt population and a lot of black people. then go to towns in alabama not as inclusive and open and i think the people have to
understand that like we have to stop -- those outside the south have to stop painting the south with one broad brush. we're doing that with a town most haven't heard of, mobile, alabama. >> you've been down to the u.s./mexico border as part of your show and asked poignant questions there. as we witness these children being taken from their parents as part of this zero tolerance policy by the trump administration, i want to ask you one of the questions you were asking others ther can americ better than this? >> i mean, america has done better than this. our policies with the u.s./mexico border as far as mexico side have never been great. but we have to understand, even if you illegally cross the border that's a civil violation, it's not some sort of law breaking thing where you have to go to jail. the trump administration and jeff sessions from alabama, is actually doing this because they want to do it not because that's what's on the books. crossing the border is a civil violati violation like jaywalker and not
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today we start telling the stories of extraordinary people and organizations that are making a difference. this special series kaulds champions for change gives us an opportunity to highlight some issues that are important to us. for me that is pediatric cancer. i have a very personal connection. my brother, my youngest sibling was diagnosed with brain cancer when he was just 10 years old. as a sister i remember feeling so helpless and powerless. those feelings led me to an organization that is tirelessly bringing light, comfort and joy to other families facing the same fight. >> i feel sad because i feel sometimes like his childhood was robbed. . mikey, how old are you? >> i am 13. >> so you're a teenager already?
>> yes. >> mikey rickard has spent a quarter of his childhood fighting brain cancer. >> this side won't grow because radiation -- >> i like your mohawk, that when mikey was finished his secretary fight, my husband was tgd with stage fo-- was diagnos cancer. nine months after his duiagnosi died, michael sr. can't breathe. >> you still have to take care of everyone and keep your little kids going. >> seeing mikey immediately took me back to colorado, and it made me think of john, my brother. he was diagnosed with brain
cancer when he was just 10 years old. medulla blastoma, the same cancer as mikey. >> the doctors said they didn't have a cure for brain cancer at that time, so i was taken back by that, and i was like oh, my, it looks kind of bleak for me. >> i remember feeling as a sibling very helpless. >> what were you thinking abo in this picture? >> i don't know. i -- i was just happy that you were here. >> i wanted to be able to do something for him as he was struggling and suffering, and yet there was very little i could do, and i think that that's what really led me to candlelighters. >> the day that they found out their child had cancer is the darkest day of their life. candlelighters helps bring them into the light. >> you look so pretty. hi. where's the other one? >> get over here. i need a double hug.
>> we needed that personal touch that we are their best friends. >> hi, john. >> and they are ours, too. we become family. >> candlelighters is really a unique organization. it meets the family where they need it most, and it may be a simple comfort or it might be a big wish. >> if we can just make a tiny bit of difference. that's enough. >> what did you see that candlelighters could offer that wasn't there. >> >> there still isn't nothing like candlelighters new york city. we're a family. ♪ you have a diaper, a poopy diaper ♪ >> these families come from all over and sit on my couch and play with my dog. they lie down on the bed if they are tired. >> do you want to open it yourself, or can i help open that for you? >> you can open it. >> oh, yeah. put your head up for one second so we can get the collar working. >> oh, yeah. >> i'm very, very, happy.
>> what does it feel like to be able to help families in that way? >> feels like a fairy godmother. >> yeah. >> isn't that better? >> yeah. >> has to be brother. >> you've got to be proper. >> we're able to make little wishes come true every day. >> we're officially making them police officers in central park briefly. please welcome beckham peterson. [ applause ] >> new york city is so rich. we share with them and we want all of new york city to feel the good feelings that we feel. >> that's a very cool picture. is that you at the knicks game? >>. >> yes. >> for mikey and his siblings it was an unbelievable night courtside at a knicks basketball game. >> everybody was smiling. >> for his mom simply an hour of pampering. >> it was such a nice treat to have a glass of champagne and have my hair wash and get it done for me.
it was just so nice to breathe again. >> barbara is a champion for these kids with cancer. barbara is a champion for their families. >> i love you more than anything in the whole wide world. >> i could spend all of my life just c but i'd be under a blanket and not helping anyone. >> so instead you're making something with that. >> i'm turning crappy into happy. >> and mikey, he continues his battle. after fighting through leukemia he's slowly recuperating from a bone marrow transplant he soefd in march and i had a chance to visit him in the hospital recently. he's so strong and brave and candlelighters continues to support him and his mom and hole family during the difficult recovery. also saw beckham recently or i should say officer peterson. he just celebrated his 8th birthday. he's from utah, and he's been in
new york for several weeks. he also is going through ongoing treatment. that's the thing. so many of these families, they co all around country. remember what it's like going through this, away from family and home. that's why candlelighters it is there. irationaltories and watch ese for the champions for change one-hour special this saturday at 8:00 p.m. eastern here on cnn. we'll be right back. i feel a great deal of urgency...
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