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with me. they can see me and smell me. load the airplane up and then we'll make stops along the eastern coast. i'm quite certain they know things are about to change. >> hey, buddy. >> they know things are better and not ending up in the pound. >> to see more of how gives his passengers first class treatment or to nominate someone you think should be a hero, log onto cnnheroes.com. thank you for being with us on this saturday. you are live in the cnn newsroom. i'm ana cabrera in new york. and john mccain would be the first to admit he wasn't a perfect man. but what flaws he did have paled in comparison to the virtues he stood for, honor, integrity, courage. and those virtues among others
were celebrated today at his funeral. >> we gather here to mourn the passing of american greatness, the real thing, not cheap rhetoric from men who will never come near the sacrifice he gave so willingly, more the opportunistic apprehension of those who live lives of comfort and privilege while he suffered and served. the america of john mccain has no need to be made great again because america was always great. >> at various points throughout his long career john confronted policies and practices that he believed were unworthy of his country. to the face of those in authority john mccain would insist we are better than this. >> for all of our differences we shared a fidelity to the ideals for which generations of americans have marched and fought and sacrificed. and given their lives. we considered our political
battles a privilege. an opportunity to serve as stewards of those ideals here at home and to be our best to advance them around the world. >> mccain we are told played an active role in planning the service from asking former rivals president obama and george w. bush to eulogize him. to having his favorite poe one he cited. the key verse from robert louis stevenson here he lies where he longed to be. home is the sailor from the sea and the hunter home from the hill. cnn senior white house correspondent jeff zeleny joins us now. jeff, what stood out to you. >> i believe the eulogiy from meghan mccain was poignant and personal seerg and emotional a fatherwell to her father but also an implicit message for the man not there.
president trump. but on this day military and political leaders came together to remember his life in scripture and in song. ♪ washington paid tribute and bade farewell to john mccain, an american patriot and politician. at the washington national cathedral, a living history, a whose who of leaders from all stripes. assembling to same goodbye to a hero and american senator. mccain's daughter spoke passionately about her father. >> we gagger here to mourn the passing of american greatness, the real thing not cheap rhetoric from men who will never come near his sacrifice nor the opportunistis apprehension of knows who live lives of comfort and privilege. >> inside the soaring cathedral
it was the first of several references to president trump and his brand of politics her father revield. >> the america of john mccain has no need to be made great again, because america was always great. >> the jurnl uchlded as a parting lesson in civility from mccain himself. to eulogize he invited two men to extinguished his dreams for the white house. george w. bush. and barack obama who prevailed in 2008. amid moments from humor. >> from trouble making pleeb to presidential candidate. >> praise for his core believes. >> at various points throughout his career he confronted policies and practices he believed were unworthy of his country. to the face of authority mccain insisted that america is better than this. >> but the personal tributes came with a sharp critique of the politics of today. >> trafficking in bottom bast
and insult and phoney controversies, and manufactured outrage. it's a pliks that pretends to be brif and tough but in fact is born of fear. john called on us to be bigger than that. he called on us to be better than that. >> despite deep differences over politics and policy, an obama said there were many with mccain he still fostered a sense of american unity. >> throughout my presidency john never hesitated to tell me when he thought i was screwing up, which by his calculation was about once day. when all was said and done, we were on the same team. we never doubted we were on the same team. >> while president trump's name was never spoken, his absence
was an unmistakable undercurrent. mccain made clear he didn't want him there. the two men's strained relationship guess back to the 2016 campaign when trump insulted mccain's american military service. yes several of the president's daughters were on hand. including ivanka, john kelly and defense secretary james mattis. the senator was sent off in scripture and song. with opera star renae plemgs rendition of danny boy. ♪ oh danny boy ♪ ♪ >> he will be laid to rest in a private ceremony at the u.s. naval academy in annapolis, maryland. >> the more will have a final resting place on a grassy hill at the u.s. naval academy cemetery in annapolis maryland, next to long-term friend, chuck larson. in the shadow of naval midshipman like he was. choosing that out of the way
spot rather than a spot at arlington national cemetery where his father was buried. this was a day of remembering john mccain with a lesson for today's politics as well. >> no doubt. jeff zeleny a beautiful service thank you for the report. i want to bring in former united states snorp chambliss who serve along soda senator mccain. our condolences to you and your colleagues thanks for being with us. >> glad to be with you ana as we celebrate the rife of a great american. >> no doubt. you attended john mccain's funeral. you chalked up many miles on numerous trips to iraq, afghanistan and other places around the world. you didn't see eye to eye on everything. but you call the disagreements always professional. we heard this echoed today.
tell bus that. >> nobody would agree with john on everything or have john agree with you or but that was why he was such a great member of the united states senate. it's supposed to be the world's most deliberative body. we have to act in bipartisan ways. and john kashzed that. in the heat of battle where john was so well respected because he loved the men and women that represent the united states in times of conflict like this. for himming to no the theater and look them in the eye and say thanks for what you are doing was pure joy to him. so i enjoyed my visits with him. in theater. but also i traveled the world with him, any number of times. and john mccain was so well recognized number one as a true
united states statesman and a great symbol of america. and he was so well respected by leaders all around the world. didn't make any difference what their politics were or what their thoughts were on some issues where john might disagree and may have made some comments about it. but john was just so well thought of and well respected in every corner of the world. >> and that was made more cheer when you look at the guest list for his services where you have leaders and representatives of administrations from countries all around the world who wanted to come and pay tribute to this man, this lion of a man. you are quick to point out john mccain was hugely respected in the u.s. military circles. and the reasons are obvious. obviously his own personal story is so amazing. you call it inspirational when you saw people interact with him. tell us more about a time, if you have a memory where you saw that respected and you were
inspired by it. >> well, any time john hit the ground in a theater where we were in a conflict, john was immediately surrounded by young men and women who were wearing the uniform, putting their life in harm's way like john did. he knew the sacrifice they were making. they knew the sacrifices that john mccain had made. there was a natural bond between john mccain and the military personnel that were serves in iraq and afghanistan. john used to make a habit of going on particular and special times of the year, like thanksgiving. i spent several thanksgivings with john in both iraq and afghanistan. and he delighted in being able to have three or four different thanksgiving dinners with troops in different parts of those
respective countries. one time we even went to -- we had dinner with one of his sons who was stationed there. so it was a very special moment for him. but it was also a very special moment for those of us that were with him to see that bond and see them have the opportunity to share a holiday together which in the military often times is just not going to happen. >> senator mccain often reached across the aisle. also sometimes a foe to his own party or a friend and foe to either party you could say. he worked with democrats on issues he felt strongly about. listen to what president obama said about mccain's political values. >> now, in fact john was a pretty conservative guy. trust me, i was on the receiving end of some of those votes. but he did understand that some
principals tra principals transscreened politics and party. >> you don't see a whole lot of that bipartisanship today. senator sakby what needs to get back to that. >> if you were at the service today, and 67 current or former united states senators were there by the way, or you happened to watch it on tv. if you don't feel better about your country by being there then something is wrong. the recognition of john today by republicans and democrats, reaching across the aisle to say very poignant, very specific things about the way that john worked with them should give everybody in america hope that maybe john's death is going to inspire some more bipartisan
activity. john set a high bar when it came to working across the aisle. i worked on many an issue with him with folks from the other side. and -- and he went out of his way to try to make sure that he was being all inclusive when he was leading the debate on immigration, for example, that he included ideas from democrats. neither party has a patent or a controls all the good ideas in congress. and john was just so good about taking everybody's good idea and incorporating them into legislation. >> that remeends me one of the reasons he give that thumbs down in july, the infamous moment on the obamacare repeal bill that was up for a vote in the senate. and it had to do in large part because of the way that piece of legislation moved through that body. and the exclusivity, the lack of inclusivity that had come with
it. former senator chambliss thank you for channelling senator mcmahon and helping remember that man. >> good to be with you. >> good to have you. a poignant moment as we go to break. a rendition of america the beautiful. ♪ america ♪ ♪ america ♪ god shed his grace on thee ♪ and crown thy gad with brotherhood ♪ ♪ from sea to shining sea ♪ oh! oh! ♪ ozempic®! ♪
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pleading guilty yesterday to failing to register as a foreign agent. patton revealed he helped a russian and ukrainian illegally purchase tickets to the january 2017 inauguration. patton has ties to a russian associate of president trump's former campaign chairman paul manafort. and he has agreed to cooperate with special counsel robert mueller. the president's attorney calls the indictment irrelevant. >> what does this have to do with president trump? not a single thing. nothing to do with collusion. some guy who donated to the inauguration. my goodness. there are 500,000 people that donated to president trump. >> joining us now prosecutor turned defense attorney randy zellen. randy you are laughing as you listen to giuliani. is this guilty plea irrelevant? >> nothing is irrelevant. and the fact that the former mayor and counsel to the president is saying that it's irrelevant reminds me of the old
maxim. doth protest too much. . i wonder of the 5,000 people who donated how many were russia zbloon that's the question we want to know too. this is obviously one person now who we have learned, which is which this is a big deal. because it's the first time we see russian money or foreign influence. also working with ukrainians, going directly to president trump. >> we have a lot of firsts. and what happens over time, those firsts, they build, and they build, and they build, like building blocks. and suddenly you get to the top of the first. >> well we have george papadopoulos, also part of the president's team revealing more in a recent court filing, according to documents just last night. according to george papadopoulos's defense team. papadopoulos told investigators when he pitched the idea during the campaign of a meeting between president trump or then candidate trump and putin, trump
nodded in approval. and attorney general jeff sessions seemed to like the idea. now, if there was never a meeting, randy, does it matter, this conversation, how it went down? what do investigators do with this. >> nothing in a vacuum seems to matter. but remember something put it in context. as i understand the swirl of evidence out there, attorney general sessions has gone before congress and denied exactly what mr. papadopoulos said just took place. so it puts attorney general sessions in some potential jeopardy. it's yet another story that rings hollow. it's yet another piece of the puzzle that, again, you look piece in a vacuum, what the hell does it mean? but when you have it laid out on the table and click themming to, this is yet something elsewhere we are left as citizens saying,
my god, is it really possible. >> in the mean we have the president continuing to attack the investigation. this week he called it illegal in an interview with bloomberg. he went to rally, threatened to get involved. in the meantime look at the bigger picture. we have the investigation securing more than 191 criminal charges against 35 people and entities. six people have now pled guilty. one paul manafort was found guilty. on top of that four separate federal judges have upheld mueller's appointment and constitutional authority. randy, do innocent people try to shut down probe that is are securing convictions and guilty pleas if in the end they will not be convicted because they are completely innocent? >> that is an extraordinary question. because the flipside of that question that you hear most of the time is, the opposite, which is, don't innocent people speak up?
don't innocent people protest the accusations? and of course as a defense attorney, i remind everyone, the smartest thing you can do as an innocent person is keep your mouth shut. and what's happening here is that the president is teaching us that i'm right. imagine, if you will -- and your viewers -- imagine for a moment if the president never tweeted, never spoke and simply carried on the business of being the president, let the investigation do its thing, let white house counsel and everybody else surrounding him, his experts, do their thing and simply focused in on running the country and maybe saying a kind word about senator mccain. imagine how different all of this would feel. so i would respectfully submit to you, it's really the opposite. you almost can't win when you are innocent. do you open your mouth and run the risk of getting jammed up because you are always one word away from saying the wrong thing? or do you keep your mouth shut
in which case people say wait a minute if you didn't do anything wrong, say so. i will always opt for the latter. >> there is always the question about whether or not the president ends up being implicated in a crime, whether robert mueller would be able to act on that. instead, the typical route would be to go to congress and they could impeach. the president talking about impeachment this week. saying they thinks it's impossible to beach a popular president. it's not the first time i mentioned the i word. reportedly he refers to it behind closed doors often. let's listen. >> i'll tell you what if i got impeached i think the market would crash. everybody would be very poor. because without this thinking, you would see -- you would see numbers that you wouldn't believe. in reverse. >> does his making such a case indicate he fears this is getting closer? >> i don't think so. i think our president is one of the more difficult people to
read. and i guess he likes it that way. it is interesting to note, though, what he focuses in on in terms of almost justifying why would be ludicrous to go after him. saying the markets would crash is really not responsive to the question of, what do we do with you? the real response to the question is what do you do with me? i haven't done anything wrong. what do you do with me? let me do my job. what do you do with me? nothing because all i'm trying to do is run the office of the presidency the best way i can. and i haven't done anything wrong. and to answer the president's question or the statement of the investigation is illegal, i simply put two questions out there. and i would hope that someone would answer it. if the the mueller investigation is he will illegal, please tell us two things.
how? and why? >> and again i go back to it's been zsh dsh that question has been asked and answered by four separate judges. two of them. >> one of the things we do as a lawyer, objection. asked and answered. >> exactly. randy zellen always good to have you with us. thank you. >> thank you. >> now the president tests out a tactic in the russia probe, insisting that what he said on camera about the firing of james comey isn't real. we have got the tape for you next. live in a cnn newsroom.
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real either. here is the tweet. when lester holt got caught fudging my tape on russia, they were hurt badly. fudging his tape on russia? what the president is referring to is his may 2017 interview with lester holt. an interview where he contradicted his own white house on the reason for firing former fbi director james comey. his administration claimed comey was fired due to recommendation from deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. criticizing comey's handling of the clinton email investigation. but that is not what president trump told lester holt two days after removing comey. here is the clip from the extended interview which nbc released. >> he made a recommendation but regardless of recommendation i was going to fire comey. knowing there was no good time to do it. and in fact, when i decided to just do it, i said to myself, i said, you know, this russia thing with trump and russia is a
madeup story. >> the president isn't offering any evidence to back up his claim about that tape being fudged. we have no evidence that nbc altered that tape. keep in mind he is raising this issue now 15 months after that interview aired. joining us now to discuss, cnn senior political analyst and senior editor for the atlantic rod brownants. ron, the president can't believe the nbc doctored the tip tape. >> who would have thought we would see donald trump channels richard prior. who do you believe me or your lying eyes. we see the consistent pattern of the president of trying to delegislate imize any institution threatening him whether the media, the independent judiciary, law enforcement. that has been a pattern from day one even before taking office. and the other is a series of argument that is are made at not
really to you had persuade the broad american public but really providing talking points and ammunition to the conservative transmission belt of communication whether fox or talk radio in an effort to phone billize his base and to in the process intimidate republicans in congress from taking independent stand against him. i was at the memoryual for john mccain today. and the reason i think you see such -- part of the reason you see such a reaction this week is john mccain and his incredible life. part of it also is i think a recoiling from the hirntly advicive, polarizing and truth challenging politics to put it mildly that donald trump represents. >> one thing the president loves to talk about is his poll numbers. and here he was in indiana in week talking about it. >> i actually asked them -- i said, did they do polling when honest abe lincoln was around?
you know, nobody has been able to give me that answer. but i'm assuming they did. okay. we can say we are beating honest abe. >> here is the reality check. the latest "washington post" abc news poll finds only 36% of the country approve of his job performance. 60 peppers disapprove. a new high in disapproval, ron. should he be shaken by the numbers? >> that is at the lower end of what we have seen. there was a second poll to confirm it today. the basic -- even if you say donald trump is somewhere around 40%, 41, 42. he is in the low 40s at a time when unemployment is 4% or lower. that's an unprecedented differingens between the president approval and state of the kpee. and it's entirely rooted in unease about the personal qualities he brings to the president. whether at 36 or 42, whether disapproval is 52 or 58 or 60, the one thing i think is constant is that the intensity of disapproval. the people strongly disapproving
significantly outnumber at this point the share who approve. what that means, historically that athletes into more intensity on who votes and also a higher percentage of the people disapprove voting against the president's party. that's the real issue for republicans in congress. they have lashed themselves to president trump and there are parts in the country some of the red state senate seats up where that's fine. but in the places where the house will be decided districts that are in suburbia orp extend from suburbia out to the ex-urbs, the president is more kwiskle position. and the republicans bound themselves to him. as long as they hold the majority they are not performing overstriegt or constrain him. >> you mention the john mccain earlier. it seems the country is just yearning for civility. a lot of the coverage has been leading up to this funeral on the president's handling of mccain's death. asked if he missed an opportunity to unite the country the president respondwood this no i don't think i did at all.
i've done everything i requested. no i don't think i have at all. ron, you attended the funeral for mccain. what is your reaction to that. >> i was struck by the tone of the funeral. it was less a eulogy than a call to arms. i mean, really every speaker with the partial exception of behindry kissinger. either directly like meghan or more indirectly by george w. bush or president obama was somewhere in the middle. made an affirmative case for a different kind of politics. even as former president obama did acknowledging how often he disagreed with john mccain but nonetheless the powerful line where he said he recognized being on the same time. it was a bipartisan rejection of the pliks grounded in division. i mean, every couple days president trump has to find a new target on twitter or in his public comments. something new to stir up what he believes that the key to consolidating his side is to
have them at war against other americans. i think you saw today this kind of yearning among a portion of the leadership -- certainly a majority of the leadership class and a portion of the country over the past week for something different. ana, very few non-preponderates ha . en presidents. you have to go back to daniel webster in the 19th century to find another example of someone who wasn't a president and struck such a chord. because of his life and also because of the times and the inherent contrast he provides to living above division. >> thank you for your take ron. >> good to be here. >> he was a man with a twinkle in his eye. coming up, remembering the funny side of the late john mccain. >> leading health and human services department, laying out a series of demands, secretary
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president? certainly someone who is very, very, very old. >> senator john mccain, two months after winning the 2008 republican party nomination, cracking jokes on "saturday night live." one of countless opportunities, the senator took to poke fun at himself. >> i've also opposed federal water prejts even when they benefitted my state tp. that's why thanks to me 15% of arizona citizens must get drinking water from cactus. >> he was the first to host "snl" and return many times. his comic timing always impressive. he played everything from a creepy husband. >> you're so lovely. i could watch you for hours. >> my god, david how did you get in here. >> the door was open, angel, shall i loofa your back. >> to a character he called sad grch. >> that's why i get on tv and go
come on obama relief plen of chances to be president. it's my turn. mccain's humor wasn't always self-deprecating. he could be cutting too like when someone asked him back in 2007 if he is too old to be president. >> thanks for the question you little jerk. you're drafted. >> but humor suited him and seemed to come naturally. in 2008 he relished putting his opponent then senator barack obama on the pot at the al smith dinner >> let's not add to the mouning pressure he must be feeling. just prepare yourself for non-stop hilarity. >> at times his jokes were spur of the moment like when he did this to a cnn reporter while on live tv. >> laying out a. >> mccain got such a kick out of himself he tweeted about it later. calling it revenge. he liked to joke with the media.
even our own anderson cooper during this interview in washington, d.c. >> it's always good to see you here and trying to do the lord's work in the city of satan. >> while not everyone appreciated hi sarcasm those who did often enjoyed part of the joke. like senator chris corn. >> and he spots me a and he says koons you get off my plane. >> i'm sort of -- what? and lindsey comes over and grabs my arm, that's how you know he likes you. >> whatever inspired his sense of humor senator campaign left us laughing and smiling in his memory. randi kaye, cnn, florida. >> hero, icon, dissenter. at 85 years young, she loves being notorious. a preview of the cnn film, rbg, on the life and krer of justice
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path breaking attorney to be the 107th justice to the united states supreme court. >> we may live in trying times. but think how it was in those days. the judges didn't think sex discrimination existed. >> ruth knew what she was doing in laying the foundation. >> putting women on the same plane as men. >> the goal was equality and civil rights. >> ruth bader ginsburg change the world for american woman. >> what has become of me could happen only in america. >> sthe has become such a rock star. >> she is really closest thing to a superhero i know. >> she has fans. the world over is known as notorious rbg. >> all i ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks. >> joining us now emily is a staff writer at the "new york
times" magazine. and the trueman. capo fellow. you have seen her for years. seen her become the pop kurmt phenomenon. why is she having such a moment right now? >> you know, there is something about her sparkly, shy, combination that i think really appeals to young people. and the idea that you could have a supreme court justice that is also letting us kind of peek behind the scenes and watch her work out, who is talking about what it was like to be a young woman at a time when becoming a lawyer and a judge was, you know, practically unthinkable in our culture. i think the mix of the professional and the personal and her very down to earth presence is what we are seeing kind of take off right now. >> i mean, talk about just female empowerment, what she represents. of all the work she has done,
how has she had the biggest impact do you think? what do you think will be her most lasting legacy perhaps. >> i think two things. when she was a litigator she came up with the theory for sex equality that changed american law and made judges sit up and pay attention and think about what it meant when a woman could be fired for being pregnant, or had to have her husband co-sign a loan. those inequities ginsburg was incredibly skillful at getting in front of courts in a way male judges paid attention to sorry. >> go ahead, please. >> as a justice, she has really stood up for equal rights for all kinds of people. so for example, in a case about voting rights, mostly affecting african-americans and hispanics she has a strong dissent talking about the history of race discrimination in the country. i think that's another thing we will remember her for.
>> i want to ask you about the nomination hearing for supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh starring next woke and how you see justice ginsburg's role on the court evolving as we move into the trump era. >> we are looking at a court that is going to be divided 5-4. and we are used to that in big cases in the country. but if judge kavanaugh is confirmed we may be consistently see five conservatives versus four democratic appointees who are more liberal. there is noquestionthat justice ginsburg will lead the liberal wing. all four justices on that side are strong personalities and strong writers. but she will be a force to be reckoned with. but in a lot of cases it will be in dissent. >> emily, thank you for being with us. you all can discover the inspiring life and career of justice ruth bader ginsburg.
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