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thank you so much. >> for the sake of our national security the "new york times" should published his name at once. >> the president just today said he believes it's somebody in national security. >> what they've done is virtually you know it's treason. >> this comes as trump is now demanding the attorney general launch an investigation to uncover the identity of the person. >> we do not pressure the attorney general or the fbi to use the criminal justice system as a cudgel to punish our political opponents. it did not start with donald trump. he is a symptom, not the cause. >> i'm sorry, i watched it, but i fell asleep. >> announcer: this is "new day weekend" with victor blackwell and christy paul.
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>> there are all kind of theorys, so many deny yams surrounding who wrote that anonymous "new york times" op-ed so critical to the president. >> now aids think they have the search narrowed down to a few individuals. a source close to the white house says president trump is obsessed with finding out who this is, even as chief of staff john kelly tells them to let it go. >> now, after a week that saw really strong job numbers and a supreme court nominee close to nomination. president trump is saying the op-ed writer is a matter of national security and wants attorney general jeff sessions to look into that. >> suppose i have a high level national security, he has got clearance, we talk about clearances a lot recently, and he goes into a high level meeting concerning china or russia or north korea or something and this guy goes in. i don't want until those
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meetings. >> so will an investigation reveal the author here? joining us now live from the white house with more cnn white house reporter jeremy dimon, where are we? >> reporter: first with esaw the bombshell book that depicks the president questioning his fitness to lead and showing administration officials throughout government are trying to check his impulses. then we see an op ed official describing those same qualities, describing a resistance inside the trump administration. all of this has led to the president being very angry about this, fuming to aides about it and urging them to launch a search to uncover the identity of the senior administration official. now the president is also calling on the attorney general jeff sessions to launch an investigation into this op-ed and it really is a serious
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escalation of what we've seen so far from the white house. there has been no crime that the president has identified to warrant such an investigation and it's really raising questions about potential abuse of power if the president were to engage in this. >> that is the very notion that the "new york times" raised in a statement rebutting the president's comments saying we are confident that the department of justice understands that the first amendment protects all american citizens and that it would not participate in such a blatant abuse of power him kellyanne kwonway told christiane amanpour yesterday she doesn't believe an investigation is warrant and se believes the individual will suss themselves out. >> i'm not interested in an investigation. i guess those who are investigating great. i hope they will find the person. i believe the person will suss him or herself out. that's usually what happens. people brag to the wrong person.
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they brag that they did this or did that. because i see part of this isn't the goal here not with the op-ed, isn't the goal here to try to sew chaos and get us all suspicious of each other -- >> is that what's happening? are you all getting suspicious of each other? smr no, we're not. >> reporter: that paranoia and those suspicions are very real inside this west wing this week following this op-ed and launching the latest search for leakers we've seen inside this white house. but for now, we are still waiting for the president to speak to see if he's going to competent further today. he has no public events on his schedule. we will certainly be keeping an eye on his twitter feed. >> we certainly will, jamie diamond at the white house, thank you. can the justice department investigate this? michael moore, former attorney and brian stelzer, host of "reliable sources." michael moore, can they, should they, would it do any good in. >> you know the justice
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department would typically investigate if there was a question of classified information being leaked out. that doesn't seem to be the case here. i think what you see, though, trump cannot get through his head the doj is not his own personal kgb. we don't sick them on people who disagree with the president or with him. he's never quite been able to understand that. it's rich to me that he suggests an investigation at this point especially when we got his son and senior advisers and him in the oval office meeting with russian operatives. and that we're calling a witch hunt, here he wants to put them on a chase after somebody who has come out against him. at the end of the day what you might find, this is something to tuck away in the back of your memory is that you may find this somewhat closer to the tops of the administration it wouldn't
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surprise me to find out somebody int vice president's camp looking to the next step after we see kavanaugh confirmed. it looks like that might happen. i think tant they'll be through with trump. you might see people trying to top him from the inside tant. >> brian, do you, have you all kind of friends at the "new york times," what are they they i saying about where they think this is going. >> this op-ed is well over 12 million pages at this point. it's the number one story on the website for several days now. it's been shared all over social media. it's just astonishing to see the spread of this piece and the impact it's had. given that on one level the claims in the piece has been out there for many months. it lines up what has been reported by our colleagues and can in the post" ever since inauguration day the president doesn't know what he's doing. according to would be woodward
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book -- bob woodward book, it brought the voice of this anonymous official and the official says there are a lot of other people like him or her, that there are many people among this so-called resistance. so i was a little bit amused to hear the op-ed of the "new york times" say we didn't think it was going to be this big a deem. because on one level that's true, this was not surprising on that level, but it is remarkable to see it all said in a single op ed. i think that's why it's still driving conversations, still driving people's fears as we head into the week. >> i mean it does bring the question of what would compel somebody at this point in time to do this? i want to read what nikki haley wrote, the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. in her own op-ed. she wrote as a former governor, i find it absolutely chilling to imagine that a high ranking member of my team would secretly thwart my again dachl it's not the american way, it's
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fundamentally loyal. it is cowardly. owner on the other ends of the spectrum you have norm eisen, senior fellow of brookings institute, he was a former star to president obama. in an opinion piece he wrote this the acts don't appear to be legal, it doesn't mean e meet the level of treason as president trump quotes. he writes, quote, i believe the author is doing the ethical thing of resisting trump from within -- and in write about it openly, calls him an american hero, what is anonymous? hero or coward? >> in this country there are several ways to blow the whistle when you believe there is wrong-doing happening. normally you come out and speak publicly with your own name attached or be interviewed by the reporter. i think the senior officials found a new path. where they are speaking in their own words but not have their name attached. i think we should view it in one way as blowing the whistle,
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trying to draw attention to a crisis that is continuing to unfold. at least that's how the person views him or herself. there are adults in the room. don't worry, everybody, there are adults in the room trying to protect the u.s. from the president this president clearly believes that they are a hero. >> so let me push back for a second, brian, and ask, what do we know about the validity of what this person is write something. >> you know "time's" said it tried to fact check the claims in the piece, for example the claim about how there were whispers in the cabinet about invoking the 25th amendment. the reality when it's an open op-ed, there are so much fact checking. they did verify the person's identity. we don't know the person the "time's" editors do know who the person is, with regards to verify the claim, let's take one specific exam the claim that
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there are many dozens of others that share the same feelings. i think it would be very differently for the "time's" to try to verify that. >> michael, okay, what are your thoughts on that? >> let me say first in my law practice i represent whistleblowers every day. to me this guy or a lady is a he. >> reporter: i never like to see things come out anonymous in the paper. they're a hero for at least telling us what's going on, on the inside. i wish we had some courage seep over into the congress. by all accounts, there is nothing new in the piece. there is nothing new that leads us to a place where there ought to be a criminal investigation. it appears it's been vetted. it appears there is clear "inside information." information we would look to in a civil whistleblower contest, some kind of insider indication. >> that seems to be the case. and you know while we hope ten end of the day something has the for the tied to stand up and tell us what's going on and put
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their name behind it. we got somebody in there who is telling us things we already know. that is we are seeing a crash of this presidency. >> some other news, former attorney michael cohen the president's former attorney says he wants to tear up that non-disclosure agreement he reached with stormy daniels who alleges she had an affair with the president. is it easy to hands something up? >> i don't think it will be quite that easy. there will be people that file motions to try to keep it alive so it remains secret. you know, it's again at the end of the day, i mean, he's faced the music a little bit. now he wants to see things move in a different direction. i don't think it will be like he can drop it in the shreder. he will meet resistance from a number of different groups and individuals. >> gentleman, so good to have you with us this morning. thank you. . former trump campaign adviser
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george papadopoulos will spend 14 days if prison for lying to version about his contacts, with people connected to russia in the 2016 campaign. president trump responded writing this, 14 days for $28 million. $2 million a day, no collusion a great day for america! of course there have been dozens of indictments. there have been the conviction of paul manafort. guilty pleas. there is much more to this than these 14 days. you can hear from papadopoulos, himself, the mysterious case of george papadopoulos. it airs tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern. congressmen in the white house are hitting back after sharp criticism from former president barack obama the message they hope he resonate with voters. plus, dallas police say an off duty officer walk into the department and shot her neighbors.
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there is much more for you in just a moment. also, outrage overnight, the decision to feature collin kaepernick in their just do it ad. why some are burning their shoes in protest, where do we go from here? stay clos
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"new york times" op-ed, the president laid out a case why republicans should rebuke them ahead of november. joining me now republican ryan costello from pennsylvania. congressman, welcome back to the show. >> good morning. >> first let's start here with the question of does that case -- and you have been critical of the president -- does that case from that former president worry vulnerable republicans heading into november? >> i don't think so, because those voters who are going to vote against republican members of congress because of their distaste for the president, that already shows up in polling, but you have a consumer confidence at an 18-year high, 90% of americans have bigger paychecks. there are more job option theni. republicans can hold onto the house because you see republican suburban members holding their
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own in polls. >> you think the republicans can hold the house in. >> they certainly can him we may no. we certainly k. i think it's a coin toss, i think president obama says some very relevant things as well which i think voters will agree with president obama and still may yet vote republican. and that is, particularly on the issue of what happens within the white house. i'm not so sure congress can control what the president says -- go ahead. >> let me ask you this. are you one of the congressmen who know better than he's talking about. you think critical, what action versus you taken to take action on those criticisms? >> i think most prominently, two things, one, we have imposed sanctions against russia that are more harsh than ever and president trump doesn't like that, but we still did it. that's number one, number two, we had about a dozen republicans who were trying to undermine the mueller investigation and have rosenstein impeached and we
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pushed back very hard behind the scenes in order to protect the integrity of the mueller investigation. >> that doesn't regularly get reported because those are behind the scenes. those are two things i would point out to you, victor. >> do you believe after the reporting, not reporting the publishing of this opinion piece from this anonymous senior administration official that there is a two-track government? >> i think, number one the fact that it's anonymous really undermines any punch to it. because we don't know who that official is. where their office even is. but i do think it highlights something that is relevant. when the president says things that people disagree with -- and president obama i think even indicated this -- about treating the department of justice as kind of like a political prosecution arm, no american agrees with that. yet the president says it.
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republicans in congress don't agree with it. so there does need to be pushback by members of both parties when the president does that. >> okay. so, i'm going to get back to that pushback from members of both parties. but i want to go back to the question i just asked, do you believe there is a two track government the president will give a directive some believe is dangerous and we can bring in the reporting from bob woodward in his new book coming out on tuesday and then those who are cast as the adults in the room saying we are not going to do that. do you believe that? >> i want to give you as direct an answer as i can. it's hard to extrapolate from an anonymous op-ed the machinations of that. i this the woodward book, will probably illuminate more on your question than anything else. but i alsoly the there are members when the administration and certainly in congress who disagree with some of the things the president says and does. >> more than disagree, they find
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it dangerous? >> up, i'm sorry, your question. >> the question is, we've heard people who question some of the things, not that it's not best or they disagree with the way it's happening. they may find some of these things dangerous. what then should members of congress do? >> they should speak out and, if appropriate, particularly with russia sanctions, you embed in legislation that the president needs to sign things in order to curtail any excess or in the case of i think attorney general sessions, who is getting beat over the head every sing le wee by the president. attorney general sessions is not listening to the president when the president is trying to get him to do things the attorney general shouldn't be doing. >> to that point, do you think they should investigate to search for author of this op-ed? >> no, i think this notion somehow there is a national
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security concern isry deck lus. i think most people think that yeah. >> so mark meadows who is the chairman of the oversight committee on government operations said that his office is looking into what they could do. he's not saying they're going to launch an investigation here. but you think that congress has a role in finding out potentially who the author is? >> no, i don't and trey gowdy i think calls balls and strikes properly. what are we to investigate? you know meadows is one of the two ardent trump supporters in congress and tends to attack towards where the president would most like someone to go, i don't know what there is to investigate. the one thing i would say about this anonymous op-ed, it guarantees, whoever is the next president will have an anonymous op-ed by someone in the administration speaking out against them.
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we have no idea who this person, i don't 1981 cut the criminals, which i think have some merit, some of them do at least what i can discern. >> which ones? >> look, i think the president goes off the rails with some of the things he says and does. i think a lot of americans who will still support republicans in congress don't like the president saying some of the things he does. >> can you be more specific about that, going off the rails? is this rhetorical or do you believe some of the things are dangerous? >> i think we have a deteriorating political culture and the president contributes to that rather than restore stability to it. i think the way he goes the way he suggests we should go after his political opponent the political po littization is debilitating. it could be dangerous if you had an attorney general that were to
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follow those instructions. i think what the president did in helsinki, vladimir putin was extremely dangerous. you can't draw and i quiff lens between the american intelligence community and the findings they have and vladimir putin use equivalency. i think you will find more republicans do that over time the one final thing i would say, very few people thought -- a lot of people didn't think president trump was going to win. since that time, i think that there has been a real learning lesson for a lot of us to understand why he won. there was a lot of frustration by people in this country who felt left behind and the president does still speak to many of them and at the same point in time, i think more and more people are identifying where he says and does things inappropriate and you see more people speak out. >> okay. congressman ryan costello, thanks so much. >> good morning.
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thank you. a dallas police officer says she shot her neighbor after she mistook his apartment for her own. now the department is seeking a manslaughter warrant for her arrest. we'll tell you what's happening. we are watch the troirks tropical storm florence appears to be headed for the u.s. east coast. look at this there are more storms behind it. allison has the latest track. she'll join us with the forecast in a moment.
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third minutes after the hour. thank you for sharing some time with us this morning, i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. >> we were talking about tropical storm florence, although it is regaining some strength here as it churns along, it the believed to be a major hurricane by the time it hits the u.s. >> that could come next week. meteorologist allison chinchar is tracking the latest in the cnn weather center. not just this storm, a couple other nuisances out there. >> that's right. three total potential storms right here. three that could ends up being all hurricanes by the time we get to monday. let's start with flompblrence. as kristi mentioned, it has jumped up to 65 miles per hour
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the thing of it is the reason why it's doing that is, as it continues its westward track, it is entering a much more favorable environment. notice here, one, two, three, we do expect it to strengthen once it reaches a category three or higher, it is a major hurricane. the reason why it's stristrengt there will be more warm temperatures. that is fuel. that will help this storm strengthen. the ul mat question is where, which states will have impacts from this particular storm. the models are starting to come towing. they're starting to favor a landfall around the carolinas. that could still potentially change because at this point landfall is not expected until
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late on thursday. the thing i want to take away from this, pay close attention to this storm. not just this storm. because we have other storms as well, helene, thunderstorm helene forms. it was overnight last night. now this is expected to become tropical storm isaac in the next 24 hours. >> yen what to say about that. good heavens. >> thank you so much for watching it for us. dallas place are seeking a warrant for an officer that allegedly shot her neighbor. she shot him after she tried to enter his apartment allegedly mistaking it for her own. >> cnn is following this story and this is i think what's so, people are so questioning. how do you go into an apartment if it's not yours? you'd have to have a key, you
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would think. >> in this apartment building, we have come to learn they have the electronic key fob system. i think the dallas police chief said it best when she said right now we have more questions than answers. what we do know is the 26-year-old was in his own apartment thursday night when a uniformed police officer off duty shot and killed him. now, the circumstances of their encounterror, their actions are unclear, the nature of their relationship beyond the fact that they did live in the same apartment building. after the officer fired her weapon. she called 911, this investigation began as an officer-involved shooting. the police department following such protocol the police chief said as they continued this investigation, it became clear to them, it was a unique situation. the protocol for the
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officer-involved shooting no longer here the state law enforcement agencies have been called in to run their independent and parallel criminal investigation here the officer had a blood sample taken to test for drugs and alcohol in her system. this is happening at 10:00 p.m. thursday night. she was believed to have just been coming off a shift for the police department. now because this officer has not yet been charged, though, as you mentioned, the dallas police now looking to charge her with manslaughter, but that has not happened yet. the process is in effect to get that warrant. but until that time, the police department is not naming her. >> all right. thank you so much. >> thank you so much. a spectacle in north korea, the country is gearing up to celebrate the 70th anniversary of its founding. will be watching closely for insight to top aides and what they are thinking. you know the backlash over
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there were no major protests at the nfl season kickoff between the philadelphia eagles and the atlanta falcons thursday, certainly outrage for nike's decision to cap colin kaepernicks a one of the faces of their just do it campaign. he took a knee during the national anthem, he is doing this to protest systemic racism and police brutal. the president fiercely condemned the move on the field, so did a lot of people, they ripped their swooshs from the socks and the nike shoes and clothing, they burned it. is with us right now and senior commentator ben ferguson as well, thank you both for being here, we appreciate
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it. good morning to you. so, ben, i want to start with you, people complain, you know, if somebody marches in the street. they complain if they rally. this protest is not about the flag. why is it that people cannot seem to separate the focus of this protest about police brutality and african-americans and how they are treated with patriotism. >> well, it has morphed a lot since the first day of claolin kaepernick kneeling. he has worn shirts depicting cops as pigs and a tyrant who suppresses people all the time, and the biggest day of protest in the nfl's history, was after donald trump called out the players, so you can't say this is just about police brutality when the biggest day of protest was, knack, protesting donald
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trump's comments about nfl players. this has marfed into something much different -- morphed into something much different than it was originally about. colin kaepernick clearly cannot depict police in general. you don't wear these socks depict all cops as pigs and think i will defend you. >> that is what people are upset, nike knew this was a controversy. they chose to drive straight into it. they chose this to be a moment for them to say, this is what we are going to do? they have the right to do that. but as a consumer, i have the trite say, i'm not buying nike anymore. cluck with this xavenli think t huge controversy, that's one of the reasons why they waited so long to unroll this, hoping some of this could have died down.
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>> so what would have been done to keep the very valid focus and argument of this whole protest in play? what could have happened differently? >> first i think colin kaepernick shouldn't depick all police officers as pig, second of all, i think colin kaepernick should have actually met with police and talked with police and sat down with them and start to be a uniter on this issue than a divider on this issue. that's where i think he lost half of the country if not more. not all police officers are bad people. he's never come out and defended the good ones zplchlt. >> rashod. please. >> there is nothing colin kaepernick could have done and they'd say on tv, that's great. i'm so glad those black people. there is nothing can you do. i watch you on tv i follow you on twitter. what i do know is that you have never come on and said, you know, that's good that they're protesting. that's good they're standing up
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against systemic oppression. >> that's not true. >> the line will always move. there will always be armchair quarterbacks, who look at how black people protest and say hey, you sho you would have done it this way f. you said it this way, i might have supported you, stood up against the things you are talking about. the fact o. matter is colin kaepernick, eric reed and the other players thatst stood up a opened up a conversation in this country and they 20, 30, 40 years from now, they will be rewarded. at every point in our history, when black people stood up, there have always been people stood on the sidelines and said you should have done it this way. they did it to the lunch protesters in the '60s and to dr. king. will you always have this. the fact of the matter is we are seeing the tide changing. we've seen the national black
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association of police officer just come out and say that they support colin kaepernick's right to protest. they understand that he's not protesting the police. so i understand that they may know -- oi know that then they think he knows better than black men who put on the uniform, as police officer, that go and and defend their community as police officer, they are no better than that. >> let me clear. let me jump in here. >> no, you had time to talk. let me finish. >> i listened to you for a long time. >> we have one minute left. go ahead. rashod. >> so over and over again, so 20, 30 years from now, we will see many people that said that they stood with colin kaepernick. >> that they were on his side. but there has never been a time. i will say this one more timant corporations. >> let me just in here. >> will you get a chance, ben. >> we saw many folks say they would boycott disney because
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disney supported gay marriage. we've seen folks say that they would push back against these corporations because they stood up for the rights of women. >> okay. >> we always see people on the right that want to fight against progress. we not stand for it. >> ben, go ahead. >> let's be clear the majority of police officers within they put on a police officer, they think of themselves as men and women that wear blue. they're not look tact race or the color of their skin when they protect people. they don't run in a house and ask what is the race inside, police officers don't look at the way. >> have you no idea. >> i do i grew up in a police family. my dad still has a badge. so you can stop and assume all police. you do not. second thing, let me say this, let me say this. -- let me get. i'm going to stay second part. if you want colin kaepernick to be taken seriously, start with telling him this, actually get
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involved out there in the streets, for example. >> we have run out of time. there is so much we did not get to in this conversation. i am so sorry to have to cut it here. we appreciate you both being here. we'll be right back.
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