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for scene scene less than 24 hours after that ending in the u.s. open final. executive exit, sources telling cnn longtime cbs chief les moonves is out as new allegations of sexual misconduct surface. thanks for joining us in the "cnn newsroom." i'm erica hill in for ana cabrera in new york. two hurricanes and a tropical storm churning in the atlantic ocean, one of them heading for the east coast. hurricane florence is closest to the u.s. mainland and taking aim at the carolinas. forecasters predict it will be a category 3 storm. helene was just upgraded to a hurricane this afternoon. tropical storm isaac is also churning in the atlantic. we'll take you live to the carolina coast for a look at hurricane preps there. let's check in with tom sater in the cnn weather center.
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>> absolutely. the first half of the atlantic hurricane season was relatively quiet. the peak of the season is actually monday, tomorrow, and we're seeing an uptick. we have three storms we may have two more by the end of the week. this is going to be become most like that overnight tonight a major hurricane. that means category 3, possibly developing into category 4, maybe even a 5. based on historical traffic accident we've never had one like this. this is 1,400 miles away, a lot can change. but the impacts are going to be felt up and down the entire east coast where landfall will be made, yes, we're going to obviously work on getting that down as close as we can, but i don't want anybody to focus on landfall because a broad area of the coastline will be impacted. right now the cone of uncertainty in all the models taking it to the carolinas, but because it will not move in until late thursday into friday,
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this could easily change. it could move north, the waters we know are very warm and getting warmer. so the massive explosive development of the storm is very possible and it's very reel. it is going to be a formidable storm. category 4 status it may be stronger with intensification just before landfall. everyone needs to watch this. i know they're buying supplies, there's sandbagging going on. make your plans now with your family and know your evacuation routes. this can change and most like that l. we have the european and u.s. model. the u.s. models want to keep it off the banks and spin it for days. that would give us catastrophic flooding like harvey last year in texas. as you mentioned, erica, there are three. helene was just upgraded to hurricane status. coming off the african coast. i'm not worried about. it's around the cape verde
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islands. however, isaac will become a hurricane overnight tonight, head toward the lesser antilles. then what happens. we're watching something develop off the yucatan coast. but olivia is a category 1 hurricane and it looks like it will make landfall late tuesday on the hawaiian islands. remember, hurricane lane, that category 4 hurricane just dropped over 50 inches on the big island. a lot going on, quite an uptick for the atlantic hurricane season. peak is tomorrow. >> tom, thank you. we'll go to carolina beach, north carolina, where kaylee hartung is. talking about the importance of taking all these precautions and these threats seriously. what are you hearing from folks there, kayleigh? are they doing that? >> erica, the last few beach gories are packing up their things behind me after what's been a beautiful day on this
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beach filled with people. tourists now tell me they're headed out of town well aware the storm is headed this way while locals, you could best characterize as optimistic as this one woman told me. >> we have batteries, we have water, we have food. if the power goes out we'll be all right. we're just enjoying the day before it all comes. who knows what's going to happen. we'll watch tv and try to figure out which direction it's going to go. >> we've been here a couple years and it seems like you have to wait until it gets closer. so far out right now that it's hard to tell which direction it's going to go. so that's kind of what we've learned. >> reporter: those locals not coming to the beach today without first making. >> when you live in this part of the country. >> kaylee hartung the latest.
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thank you. fresh controversy for a 23time grand slam champion, serena williams. the super star slapped with a $17,000 fine for her three violations. this comes a day after that upset in the final against japan's naomi osaka. the match overshadowed by the heated changes between serena williams and the umpire carlson ramos. williams visibly upset after giving a warning over illegal coaching, which she then tried to explain to the umpire was not happening. then there was the penalty when she smashed her racket. she was docked a game after approaching the chair another time and called the ump a thief. she went on to lose. naomi osaka won the open 6-2, 6-4. williams venting her frustration in the post-match press conference.
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>> i'm here fighting for women's rights and for women's equality if for all kinds of stuff. and for me to say thief and for him to take a game, it made me feel like it was a sexist remark. he never took game from a man because he described thief. for me it blows my mind. >> i spoke with a u.s. wimbledon champion and tennis analyst for espn. i started by asking if she agrees with williams' assessment there is a double standard on the court. >> listen, this obviously is being talked about a lot over the last 24 hours, particularly with espn and our crew. i think that the bottom line is the umpire overstepped his boundary at the start of this match when he gave the warning for the coaching. we all know there's coaching going on from the sidelines. what patrick did with the movement with the hands is so something that should have been really let go of.
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i think he should have said to serena i saw patrick. i'm not somebody who cheats. i think once serena felt that she was being unfairly treated at that moment by getting a warning she doesn't do, she's not known to be a cheater. >> that's what she was trying to explain to him. >> she was so upset and the one thing i want to know from serena is does she think he was going to take the warning away once she made the argument to him on the changeover. when she broke the racket for the second warning and she didn't realize she had a point penalty. you know as a player once you get the second penalty, i wonder if she even realized he didn't take the warning away. as a player you know, as a warning is given, it's in the books. she would have known. she was careful in the third instance when she was going at him in the chair to not swear,
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to not say anything that would have given her another warning because she knows it's the game or the match. she's understanding of that rule and what she said in my opinion was a little innocuous. that was something that a lot of other players particularly men have sworn at him, have said things to him in the past and have not got a warning. this is not about taking the game, this is about giving a warning. the cumulative effect was the game. >> a number of men, james blake was one of them, he said i've done far worse things. there are plenty of examples we can point to, but a lot of men have come out and said she's absolutely right. sally jenkins wrote this morning about carlson ramos and his role saying he took what began as a minor infraction and turned it into one of the nastiest and emotional controversies in the history of tennis because he couldn't take a woman speaking sharply to him. all good umpires in every sport
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continued heart of their job is to temper the moment and to be quiet stewards of the event rather than play a role going on to say he made himself the chief player in the women's final. would you agree with that assessment? >> 100%. no doubt what sally wrote was perfect. i've talked to a bunch of umpires. one of the things that you have to understand as an umpire, the moment, you have to understand the player, you have to understand the time it's happening. and i think the first warning for giving the coaching was the worst decision that he's made in a long time. i've had him as an umpire. i've sworn on the court in an instance where he didn't give me a warning. we've had our incidences with him that's ambiguous. there's too much ambiguity and that's where you heard patrick. serena is known not to get a lot of coaching from the side of the
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court. she doesn't even use on-court coaching when it's available to her. that's where it got really heated for her in the end. >> really quickly, what about naomi osaka. she's playing her idol. the emotion from her -- >> it was terrible. it was so terrible to see what happened when she was about to receive. she played unbelievable last night. she deserved the win. the last serve was incredible. i got to tell you it was one of the most amazing matches i've seen to play her idol but that moment unfortunately was overshowed it by what happened last night and i know serena are putting her arm around her was a pretty amazing moment. as a viewer it was hard to watch and i hope she can enjoy this moment today. vice president pence responding to questions about whether he's the author of the
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op-ed. the head of cbs is reportedly out as fresh claims of sexual conduct are revealed. we have those new details. you're live in the "cnn newsroom." i don't keep track of regrets. and i don't add up the years. but what i do count on is boost®.
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they are literally violating an oath. if they are that senior administration official, that they're violate angle oath not to the president, but to the constitution. >> treason? >> look, it's un-american, and i think that's why you've seen republicans and democrats condemn this. >> joining me now is political analyst and former adviser to four presidents, david gergen. david, there's a part of this where you think mike pence came out early on and said, look, it wasn't me. i'm not sure there were many people who thought he was behind this. but the fact that we're in a place where the vice president is saying i will take a lie detector test just to prove i didn't write this letter, there's something in there that it really gives you pause, david. >> i think the whole idea of giving lie detector toasts people in the white house and cabinet agencies is just a terrible idea. it comes up periodically.
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i well remember in the reagan administration when president reagan was angry about leaks, he had leaks up to his keyster and jim baker, he wanted to give lie detector tests. george schultz, the secretary of state said the day they come with a lie detector test is the day i leave the administration. and i think one of the things that's interesting, erica, is that the vice president has now taken a very, very hard line. he's soft spoken, but a hard liner. he's very loyal to the president, and people who think that the 25th amendment may be around the corner are just -- it's very clear the vice president is not going anywhere near the 25th amendment. he's going to be a staller for the president all the way. >> it'sfacent fascinating to we media blitz and what we're
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hearing from the white house, this is despite our reporting that staffers including counselor to the president kellyanne conway had a tried to get the president off this, have tried to shift his focus away from the letter. the focus remains and we are seeing this media blitz of folks being put out there to say this is terrible. this is what kellyanne had to say earlier to jake tapper. >> what was the motivation too. if the motivation is what they say it is in that ridiculous op-ed, they failed miserably, completely. i just the motivation was to sew discord and create chaos and i refuse to be a part of that. >> kellyanne conway saying she feels that the motivation behind the letter is to sew discord and chaos. they're not on a media blitz, david, to say the situation that's described and the dysfunction, that's not happening. >> the chaos and the sewing
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discord is not coming from the anonymous op-ed piece. it's coming from this obsession of finding who stated this. i think there's a part of what's going on at the white house, a serious part of it is there are people there who like this story focusing into its fifth day on who put this out there because it's distracting everybody from the content of the message itself, which is there is this chaos and that there are groups of people inside the white house, senior people, adults in the room who are trying very hard to steer the ship and stay in a better direction. the other thing is, from their point of view from the white house, you have to wonder, maybe kellyanne conway thinks this, it's such a distraction, the news is so much on this obsession that what is also being lost is not just the content of the letter, but what's going on with the economy. they had some good news at the
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white house this week about the state of the economy, it's doing very well. it's the best thing they have going for this administration, and they can't get the focus back on their strength. they're playing to their weakness. >> it's fascinating what you point that out because it's something we'll hear the president complain about. we will talk about how strong the economy is and yet we're not hearing it from the administration itself, which i think is such a valid point. based on your experience, david, what lessons are there for this white house when it comes to dealing with anonymous authors? >> i think first of all it's a question of the culture of the white house itself. you can't do this just by rules. people are going to disobey rules if the culture is rancid. and i think that culture starts with the president or any organization. people in the organization take their cues from the person on top, the ceo, the man or woman
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who's running the show. that's especially true in the white house. you get a president who's very, very honest like jerry ford, and you're going to find the rest of the white house is going to click too and be honest, open, and transparent. you have a president in shady dealings like nixon, and boom, you have people around him who cut corners. this president has sent messages about -- we all know about this. but the fact is there's been nothing done in a serious way that's been successful in cleaning up the culture of this place and putting it on a better course. despite the good economy, they could go down. americans are talking more about what's going on in washington than they are about what's going on in the economy as best i can tell. >> what's interesting is that this letter actually took some of the pressure away from the earlier fire we saw last week
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that the president wanted to put out, which is this book. now that book is going to come out. one would manual that's a whole separate set of chaos we'll see in the week ahead. >> that's a really good point. you're going to see this just because we're not going to find before tuesday when the book comes out who this person was and it's going to flow right into the woodward book. we'll have more and more conversation. this could wind up being a two-week story, the story itself becomes like one people scratch their heads and say what in the world is going on in that place. one final point, erica, i do think that this white house and this anonymous letter overstated one thing, and that is how dangerous it is to have people in the white house who do not agree with the president's agendaoned everything and try to steer him in the direction they like. that happens in every white house. in fact, i think it's really imperative to have presidents to have naysayers, people on their
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team who question the conventional wisdom. back in vietnam we had something called group think that described the johnson white house and prosecuting the war in vietnam. had there been more people to dissent and push back inside, that war might have taken a different turn. when group think takes over, you can really make some terrible, terrible mistakes. so i would argue you need people in there who are questioning what you're doing and pushing. you got a conflict going and it's healthy internally. so everybody doesn't take their cues from the president, a president who desperately needs to know from his people what the context is of any decision is and what the choices are. it's such an important place. thank you, erica. >> absolutely. david, always appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you.
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. breaking news, les moonves, the head of cbs who has faced sexual conduct allegations in recent weeks including allegations by six women, new allegations just published today, is out. his exit part of an ongoing battle for control of cbs.
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we have new details of the settlement that was reached. brian stelter is joining us. you broke this story earlier today. this is something here. there will be a $20 million donation to the #metoo movement and equality programs to support equality programs for women in the workplace. >> and it will be a big paycheck. that's right. this is one of the ways that cbs is trying to be on the right side of history. go back six weeks, story comes out in "the new yorker." the company didn't suspend him and he didn't step down. fast forward six weeks, a second story comes out. six more women, even more disturbing allegiances. now 7:30 eastern time, moonves is out. this is effective immediately. it's just been confirmed by the company. one of his deputies will be taking over in acting capacity. let's recognize the stakes here. this is a ceo of a fortune 500 company, one of the most powerful men in media, one of
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the best-paid men in media all of a sudden out of his job. largely because these #metoo allegations, but also because of a courtroom, court boardroom ba. with regards to moonves, he's potentially going to make a lot of money. that's a big question mark going forward. >> there was so much outrage from people about the fact even as this was being negotiated in the last several days or weeks, that les moonves could leave with tens of millions, at one point they were talking about -- >> $100 million. >> it's on hold while the investigation is pending, do we know what that number could be. >> earlier in the day, a source said it will be over $100 million. but the caveat here is that all these talks about severance, all these talks about $100 million
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payout will be on hold until the law firms that are investigating the claims against him finish their work. and those law firms are not going to be done anytime soon. so cbs is delaying the really awkward questions about how much moonves will be paid until sometime later, but the headline they can take away tonight that she is leaving. >> so what are you hearing from elsewhere inside the company? >> i just there's a lot of people concerned about how this looks. reputationly, what it means for cbs to potentially be paying a man $100 million when he's been accused by women not just anonymously, although those are serious too, but on the record, women claiming misconduct, claiming harassment, claiming saum assault. together it's a damming portrait of misconduct. >> in one of these allegations, one said i was frustrated with what i was seeing essentially in the way this was being handled
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that's why i decided i had to say something. >> that's why they came forward for today's story. they hadn the company says any payment to moonves in the future will depend upon the results of the independent investigation as you have been working hard all day, my friend, thank you. just a reminder, you can catch brian's show every sunday morning at 11:00 eastern here on cnn. a battle brewing in georgia where a governs race could be a reverend on president trump. new polling shows the candidates in had a statistical tie. you're live in the "cnn newsroom." >> i . >> think how it was in those days. the judges didn't think sexual
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these are the first chimes ringing from the new tower of voices memorial in shanksville, pennsylvania. the 93-foot monument is dedicated to those on board flight 93 that crashed on 9/11. the president and first lady will visit the memorial on tuesday which is the 17th anniversary of the attacks. a midterm governor's race could make u.s. history if the democrat wins she will become the nation's first ever black female governor. the republican candidate staking his campaign on voter support for president trump. and a brand-new poll out shows the two candidates in georgia are locked in a tight battle with less than two months to go. kaylee hartung spoke with both of them. >> we are wright the next chapter of georgia's future. >> a democrat looking to become the nation's first black female governor. >> where you come from shouldn't
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determine how far you can go. >> reporter: versus -- >> this is about fighting for literally, los angeles, the soul of our state. >> reporter: a republican using every page of the president's playbook. >> i got a big truck, just in case i need to round up criminal illegals and take them home myself. >> reporter: the candidates, polar oppose on seemingly every issue from abortion to taxes. immigration to guns. >> we can repeal campus carry. >> i own guns, but no one's taking them away. >> reporter: this race is about more than the future of the peach state. it's become a microcosm of the political divide in america. >> this is going to be something of a warm-up act for 2020 here in georgia. >> reporter: greg is a political reporter for the atlanta journal constitution. >> democrats want to desperately prove georgia is a battleground state in a way it hasn't been in a few decades. they want to make sure it still stays in the red column. >> reporter: no democrat has won a major stayed wyatt election in
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>> reporter: there's no avoiding the president's imprint on the rice. >> if we're talking the first wednesday in november and this state has turned blue, who will be responsible for making that happen? >> it will be donald trump will be partly responsible either way. >> kaylee hartung, cnn, atlanta. a military show of force today in north korea, but something was absent this year. the weekend presidential brief is next. you're live in the "cnn newsroom." i don't keep track of regrets.
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today in north korea, the military parade the 70 annual. there was something missing today and it's important to point out. the intercontinental ballistic missiles believed to be capable of targeting the u.s. glaringly absent in this year's parade which brings us to your weekend parking lot brief, a segment we bring you every sunday night highlighting some of the most pressing national security information. the president is going to need when he wakes up tomorrow. he's also welcome to take the information right now. joining us now, cnn national security analyst, former national security council adviser, samantha vin grad. no icbms, there's a reason for that and a message one would imagine. >> there is but there was no raining on kim's parade. he didn't display his-0 plus nukes, but he doesn't need to parade them or even test them for us to know they're there. he's already proven that they work. while kim celebrates his power,
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he's transitioned from dotard tweets, remember those? to dear donald alerts. it's a security blanket. the more invested is in this pen pal correspondence. we know kim jong-un is really focused on his economy right now, but to to quote james, it's economy stupid. a quarter of the gdp goes to the military. is stronger we should assume kim jong-un's military and weapons programs are. >> which is fascinating. as that's playing outing we also learned this weekend that the u.s. may have been open to a coup attempt in venezuela to overthrow murdaduro. >> they turned out to poorly in countries in latin america. this whole story, though, is going to add fuel to maduro's fire. he likes to blame us for everything that's wrong in
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venezuela from their million percent inflation to the humanitarian crisis that's under way. it's their fault, i have nothing to do with this, which is quite dangerous. and the truth is we have not dialed up sanctions as far as we could in venezuela. so before going to supporting a coup, we could sanction their state-run oil company. oil accounts for over 90% of their export revenues. we've been wary to do that. perhaps we're worried about a complete state collapse in venezuela. >> do you see a scenario where it could happen where sanctions could come to the table? >> i think they could, i don't think the president will do that while he's asking china and india to wean themselves off iranian oil. he probably wants to focus on that and not add this other element. >> as all of this is playing out, there's also happening at the white house itself.
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we know there's still this obsession with who wrote this opposite sed, bob woodward's book comes out on tuesday. all of this chaos wei, is this another day as usually. >> we know putin wants to undermine the credibility of our democracy. i don't know anyone who's read that opposite sed or the first few pages of the bob woodward book and walked away with a sense of confidence in the president's mastery of information, or his capability to lead a team that actually tloichbz him or doesn't talk negative. the russians want to sew divisions. there's a resistance under way within the president's policy establishment. that counts as a big division to me, so we should assume the russians want to make this the never ending story. they're going to tweet out every bit of content they can related to the woodward book and "the new york times" op-ed, particularly because they know how distracted the president and his cabinet are with these letters of denials. the more distracted they are by
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it doesn't happen very often in the nfl. browns fans held their breath all the way into overtime. only to watch their first chance for a win since december of 2016 evaporate in a missed field goal attempt. the final score, cleveland 21, pittsburgh 21. so, hey, there's always next sunday when the browns will try against the saints. the arizona cardinals making cindy mccain an honorary team captain today. the wife of the late senator john mccain meeting with players, and show joined in at the coin toss before the cardinals game against the washington redskins today. this is mrs. mccain's first public appearance since her husband's funeral. afterwards she tweeted her thanks to the team and the tribute to her late husband. saying the support has been overwhelming. >> supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg has earned countless titles and accolades during her ground breaking career on both sides of the
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bench. now the new cnn original film "rbg" takes an intimate look at the professional and personal life of justice ginsberg who has developed a breathtakingp legal legacy and has also become an iconch here's a preview. >> when i graduated from law school in 1959, not a law firm in the entire city of new york would employ me. ♪ >> she captured for the male members of the court what it was like to be a second class citizen. >> ruth knew what she was doing in laying the foundation. >> so help me god. >> so help me god. >> real change, enduring change happens one step at a time. >> joining me now, cnn legal analyst and supreme court buying fist. joan, always great to have you here with us. >> thanks. >> what's so remarkable about justice ginsburg is this pop culture moment that she's having. we see some of it in the film and the young women there with the copies of the notorious obg
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but they have just enthralled by her and what show's done. what is it specifically that's made her this pop culture icon now for a woman who is in her 80s? >> who doesn't like someone who challenges the system and lives to tell about it into her 80s. that's what she wassing to in the '70s when she was a woman's right volk, winning more than losing in those years, and that's what she's doing now, although we know she's losing more than winning, but she's firing up a i lo the of people with those dissents. >> she certainly is. listen, you have covered her for year, as you know, but there was an interview that you did during the 2016 campaign that obviously made a lot of headlines. she said then canned discriminate donald trump was a ferric and got a lot of blowback for that, too. did it damage her reputation even on the court? >> i don't think so. i think there are people who
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felt she shouldn't have gone that far and she herself regretted, it erica. she couldn't help but speak her mind and then she thought that she was wrong to do it and she walked it back. you know, it came up in the kavanaugh hearings from both sides, so it's still out there, but it's part of what she's all about. challenging the system. >> she has no signs of slowing down. although there has been plenty of discussion, plenty of speculation about whether she would perhaps retire. she said she's there for another five years. what do you think those five years will look like for her? >> a lot of dissents definitely, a lot of challenges to the majority. you know, what some people don't remember is that the notorious rbg was born of a dissent that she wrote in 2013 just after she had turned age 80 in a voting rights act case where she came out swinging. the interesting thing, erica, is that she was always known for her women's rights passion, but
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she's becoming more and more known for her civil rights passion more broadly, and i think we'll see more those kinds of dissents. >> as we see more of that, she has had this remarkable legal career as we said on both side of the bench. >> yeah. >> what do you think her biggest legacy is at this point? >> you know, i think people will regard her as someone who in her earlier quiet way challenged the system, went at it in a counterintuitive way representing men who were bringing sex discrimination cases as people will see in the movie, hung in there, was in the trenches and now is having her moment. so i think she will be remembered for both legacies. one so much for women's rights and now for broader civil rights. >> joan, always great to the talk to you. thank you. >> thank you. >> and you can learn more about the inspiring life and career of justice ginsburg, "rbg," a cnn
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film, starts right now. thanks for joining us. i'm erica hill in for ana cabrera.

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