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on the second floor. >> if you are not taking this storm seriously, you are making a mistake. >> the president is in panic mode. he's far too worried about a book. >> a number of people came out and said that woodward never reached out. >> president trump is publically blasting a lot of the quotes as fiction and fake news. >> we better wake up. this is not partisan. >> this is new day with alisyn camerota and john john berman. >> it is tuesday, september 11th, 8:00 in the east. there is a hurricane watch that stretches from south carolina to the north virginia border. this is a category four storm. at this hour, it is packing winds of 130 miles an hour. but it is on track to be one of the strongest hurricanes to hit the eastern sea board in
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decades. it is predicted to make land fall thursday night or friday morning somewhere along the carolina coastline. let's check out this view from space. this is the international space station. it is cool to watch how this churns. it is capturing the incredible size while this is hovering over the atlantic. >> more than one million people are now under mandatory evacuation orders in north carolina, south carolina and virginia. this includes the entire south carolina coast as of noon today. in north carolina, parts of six coastal counties, you can see it all there on the map, also being evacuated. moments ago, fema chief calls for north carolina's entire coastline to pay very close attention. >> i believe that people should be evacuating the coast of north carolina for the category four storm, particularly get out of the area as they are vulnerable.
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>> some of those gas stations already running out of fuel. and look at that. the hardware store here. a lot of nutella. >> i would get that first. >> chad myers has the new advisory and the track. chad, what are we seeing? >> as we expected, we found 120. the eye wall is going through a replacement cycle. this may be the smallest that this number gets for a very long time because when that eye wall gets itself back together later today, it will go back up to 140 and maybe 150. that beautiful picture there from the satellite picture, there you go. what an amazing shot. the sun just rising on this storm in the atlantic right now. here is the problem. you're looking at 130.
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you need to be looking at 150. and then 145 because this storm is going to get stronger before it makes land fall. this will have a bubble of storm surge in the 20 foot range, somewhere. i don't know if that's will ming ton yet. what i do know is that the cone is getting smaller to the south and not getting as far to the north as we work our way toward land fall. but now what happens is that the storm stalls and has no direction at all. in fact, this cone gets wider. it could be back off store. it could be all the way down into georgia by the time five days comes around. we're going to get rain fall. 20 inches of rain fall in some spots is completely possible. here are your watches. as the storm gets closer, the cone gets smaller and hurricane warnings will be issued later
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today or into tomorrow. >> chad, thank you very much for explaining all of that. evacuations are beginning for residents. for more than one million people the order to leave is now. live in carolina beach in north carolina. what's the latest? >> reporter: you wouldn't believe how warm the water is. the local office for the national weather center explained to me the significance of that. they say this time of year the water temperatures in the low 80s. at their last measurement it was 88 degrees. optimal circumstances for a hurricane to do the worst kind of damage. the concern in this area 15 to 20 feet. where i'm standing that would mean would be underwater. preparations underway. more than a million people expected to evacuate right here on carolina beach, one of the barrier islands protecting the city of will ming ton. that's when they expect, tomorrow, that tropical storm
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force winds to be in this area. local officials saying if you stay here you are doing so at your own risk. >> all right. thank you very much. joining me is the director of the national hurricane center. director, thank you for being with us. what can you tell us about the size, the direction and the timing of this storm? >> well, i think one of the big factors is that we're just not talking about impacts inside the cone. we just always got to remind people inside the cone is where we can see the center of this system. look at what happens inland. it could be anywhere in these areas. but one of the big factors, we take these forecast points. the closer these lines are together, that means this thing is slowing down. when we slow down over land, that's going to compound our issues with storm surge and heavy rain. water will be a huge story in addition to incredible windfall. a lot of winds. a lot of trees down and power outages. >> talk to me about the storm
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surge. how much and do you have a sense of where? >> we can kind of zoom in. we can zoom in like this, but i think it is important if i go ahead and show a situation like this where we have a whole storm surge watch. anywhere in these areas here can see greater than three foot. this is an important point. when i go to this map, it is not just a coastal issue all the time. you have the barrier islands. but here is where it also causes problems. we're really concerned about some of these areas where the water filters in and where it piles up and can't go anywhere, you could get 10 to 12 foot of storm surge. that's very dangerous. >> we keep hearing 20 to 30 inches of rain. how many days? and again do you have a sense of where? >> we're looking at that. it is an incredible amount of rain fall. again, very life threatening. this is well inland. look at this graphic. 15 to 20 inches of rain in some of these areas here.
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but we are looking at potentially isolated areas being up to 30 inches of rain. that is life threatening in these areas that will get this rain fall. big portion of virginia and north carolina. but remember where these colors are close together, you can shift this quite a bit. >> i note a lot of the ground is already saturated because they had more rain than usual this season. so many of us that watch these hurricane forecasts become familiar with the european models and the american model, the paths of these storms. can you give us a sense of what the difference is between the two and why the difference and what that difference can mean? >> it is interesting when you look at the models. people think it is just merely looking at the hurricane. but in the reality you are looking at high pressures and low pressures, sometimes 500 to 1,000 miles away. little differences in how those are measured can make a big difference in where they try to steer this system.
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if you look at one or two models, you may see differences. they may flip-flop back and forth. but we're looking at dozens and dozens of runs of those models. if you go back in time and take the consensus of all those models, our forecast really hasn't changed that much. so you have to look at all these different models and try to find an average and that really hasn't changed that much. that's why we're pretty confident at least where this direction is so far. >> we spoke to a hurricane hunter who told us he sees nothing in the path of this storm to slow it down in terms of the wind speed and gathering strength. is there anything that could change the forecast that you see? anything that could push this storm one way or another? >> out ahead of florence here, this whole area is incredible warm in terms of ocean temperature. but those measurements at the
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surface. that warm water goes deeper into the ocean. so, no, the ocean will not be a factor. it will be helping out this storm stay the same. and in the atmosphere itself, we don't see anything that could prevent this from being a major hurricane. it is so important we realize some of the wind fluctuating. you will see 130 miles an hour, 140 miles an hour. it naturally fluctuates like that. no matter what, we're going to have a major hurricane headed for the carolina coast. >> thank you very much for going over with us some of these models. thank you, sir. >> we'll keep an eye, obviously, on florence. let's talk about politics. president trump's approval rating is down. in this new cnn poll it has fallen six points in the last month. it is now at 36%. so how is the white house responding to this? there is just 56 days left until the midterms.
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joining us now is david gregory and david. david gregory, it had gone down six points in the past month to 36%. among independents, the all important voters, it is also down. it has hit, in fact, an all-time low. it is now at 31%, president trump's approval rating. a month ago it was at 47%. your thoughts? >> i think one of the big issues for president trump is that he is seen as a chaos agent, even among people who support him or among people who support might be a little softer for him because of his personal attributes, his leadership style, the chaos around him, the drama, the courseness of his leadership style. all of those things can tend to undermine him. if you look at his core support, you have to look at the tangibles that he's going to be running on, if this is a ref run dumb on him. strong economy, strong stock
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market. even if you look at the job market, wages going up and for conservatives, look at the federal judiciary. not just the supreme court. but then of course neil gorsich, brett kavanaugh who looks to be moving toward nomination. those are real tangibles. even the trade business, which is volatile, is still really making good on an area that he promised. those are strong signs for the president. but the personal chaotic part that we're seeing in the op-ed and the woodward book, those things continue to hurt. >> the cnn poll obviously the one we are most interested in. what's really fascinated here is that just about every other group of numbers we have seen over the last week. poll after poll has shown the president's approval rating dropping since september. so if you are a republican running for congress in one of 435 districts across the country, what do you think of
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these numbers? what do they tell you? >> the absolute worst time i'd want to see the president's numbers head in this direction. you got to step back here for a moment, john, and just remember the story of president trump's numbers in polling throughout his entire presidency has been a story of stability. like no matter what the headlines were, no matter what was going on, he operated in this very narrow band of, you know, mid to upper 30s to low to mid-40s. you didn't see too much fluctuation there. we're still in that, obviously. but your point that there have been five national polls in the last couple weeks all showing a downward trend suggests to me that the president is indeed taking on water right now, and that independent number is huge because they are going to be critical to this midterm at precisely the wrong time with eight weeks to go. if you are a republican candidate, you are in any kind of district that is not ruby red, you are thinking about how
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to distance yourself from president trump. >> that is a live shot of president trump departing from pennsylvania to remember 9/11. it is also a tuesday, the same day that 9/11 happened 17 years ago. so they're headed to be with some of the victims' families and to remember that moment. i just want to dive in a little bit more to some very interesting questions that were asked in this poll. this is, does the president respect the rule of law? okay. so after everything we have seen with the people around him and how he's treating jeff sessions, the attorney general, et cetera, et cetera, 60% of the country says the president of the united states does not respect the rule of law. that's stunning. but again i don't know that people vote on that. i mean, obviously their own pursestrings probably have more
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impact on their lives than their feeling about that. >> well, but i think what david said is really interesting. yes, it is true the president is taking on water. so what is that about? and how do we parse that out? that poll says a couple of things. there are a lot of people who look at the president's attitude toward the justice department, toward the rule of law, ordering jeff sessions to investigate people, you know, treating the justice department like, you know, kind of a collection of boys who are supposed to just exact political revenge on his opponents. people are uncomfortable with that because it is a way of undermining what they consider to be the strength of american -- america and american institutions. and that's part of the chaos agent piece. that's the part that people have a hard time squaring with their feelings about the economy or how the stock market is. i think a lot of people were willing to compartmentalize and say, yeah, he goes too far. he's horrible toward women.
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but he's going to shake this place up and d.c. will be better for it. i think it's some of that support that is being eroded. at the same time, he has a super energized base working against him. a lot of progressives in the country think the world is ending politically and that trump is responsible for that. and so there is a lot of energy that's moving against him. but, again, i agree with david. you look at these independent numbers. you look at women, suburban voters. you look at college educated voters who typically vote republican but who may have also supported obama. these are voters to watch in some of these key districts. >> there is one key difference here when people are sitting home saying, yeah, but you said this about the polls in 2016. one key difference here, he's not running against hillary clinton right now, who also had lots of problems in her numbers. there was a real comparison in a presidential election that allowed people who didn't like either of them to decide to go
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with the change agent in donald trump. that doesn't exist here for him. so, yes, the economy, 69% of americans thinking it is doing well. it is his highest approval number on any issue. 49% approval issue much, much higher. that is the thing that is keeping him a float, as much afloat as he is right now. what he doesn't have is just a direct comparison against an opponent because the midterm is all about a referendum against him. >> the economy is actually keeping him as high as he is. the economy is topping him up at 36%. look at the strongly disapprove numbers. i think it is 48%, incredibly high. that doesn't seem like a winnable group. >> yeah, right. right. because, again, that speaks to how much energy there is against him. and what david was saying, he's not running against another candidate who has other
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deficiencies. so now he's in a different proposition. he's leading the party. it is a referendum on him. there are lots of plus sides that people could vote for him and vote for the republican party. that's what they hope. but this chaos agent piece, i go back to one of the things that i think really hobbled president bush by the end of his presidency and helped candidate obama, was the sense that americans were uncomfortable with the sense of isolation in the world, being so controversial. this is what undermines trump at a certain point, investigations, spector of impeachment, leadership style. all this trouble from within. there is an amount of drama that starts to erode support. >> thank you both very much. >> so how can the white house turn this around? and what should republican members of congress do as they face tough re-election battles? we will speak to a former republican senator next. we conf. we stole everything we could. from everything we've ever mastered.
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while i feel for the people of north carolina and south carolina, thanks so much. it looks like we will be blessed. >> 36% is very, very low. you say that democrats smell blood in the water. why? >> well, that's nothing new. it's been talked about this blue wave, so to speak, for the last six months. i think there was kind of a slow down of that conversation. but they're trying to generate it again and certainly when you have polling numbers like this and irrespective of numbers, even as a candidate, i never paid attention to the number. i paid attention to the trend and the trend here is not good for the president, at least. so i think it should be a concern to every candidate out there, but, john, every candidate has to run their own race, not nationalized, a congressional race in some part
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of the world. if they do that without running away from the president because they need that base, then i think at the end of the day that blue wave is not likely to be as big as some people are predicting it right now. >> even if it is a long time and you are smart to pay attention to the polling trends. the polling trends are not good for the president. it's really every poll we have seen over the last few weeks. do you have a sense or a guess about why? what happened in the last month to push his numbers lower? >> well, i think it's been a combination of things. it's not been a good month for the president in legal circles. it's not been a good month with op-eds. and, you know, he imposed more tariffs on china, which raises that issue once again. people are not particularly happy about that. but at the end of the day, a lot of the president's decisions, john, are working.
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the economy is clicking along at a very hot pace. their jobs out there, people are having a hard time finding employees. so at the end of the day, if candidates are talking about the economy and asking the people to vote their pocketbook, then they are going to be in a much better position than they are worrying about polls and the take down from a presidential standpoint versus a candidate standpoint. >> what do you do? put yourself in the position of some of these candidates right now. you said you have to run your race, don't let it be nationalized. but how can you avoid letting it be nationalized in this political environment? because theresident is ubiquitous in many ways in social media and people are talking about him in all kinds of different ways than we've seen before. you also noted that this president is extremely popular with a section of the republican base. so can you run your own race successfully?
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>> it's not unusual for either republicans or democrats to try to nationalize a race. if you're in the minority for the most part, that's usually what you want to do, provided you have got the right candidate out there and you have got the right issues to talk about and certainly in a lot of these congressional races you are seeing different and stronger democratic candidates than what we have seen before. and obviously there are issues out there. but that part of donald trump, that base of donald trump really does like what he's doing. so candidates have to be careful, john, not to alienate any of that group. you have to have that group energized and turned out and then you concentrate on those independents and hopefully some crossover democrats if you are in a marginal district. but you just -- you can't just look at the polls and say, wow, this is a lost cause. you're not going to do that if
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you have got a good story to tell. and republicans have a good story to tell with the economy. >> well, i don't think is packing up and going home yet, not with 56 days left to go. >> that's an eternity in politics. >> it sure is. what is your assessment of how the white house and the president handled this last round of stories. i'm talking about the op-ed in "the new york times" and the revelation inside the bob woodward book. do you think the white house handled that in the last few days. >> i think that story has yet to play out obviously because bob's book is coming out today. and, you know, the president has been railing and had other people railing against the op-ed, even democrats. so the big story switched from the excerpts of the woodward book to the op-ed and the white house did a pretty good job of deflecting that. now with the woodward book
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coming out today, it will be interesting to see if all of the focus is on that and how much negative -- how much in the way of negative stories comes out of that. the secret for the white house is, get this out there. get it off the table. let's get back to the economy. that's going to be their chapter. >> this final question for the senator here. some of the republicans we talk to on tv or behind the scenes, that some of these suggests inside the book in the op-ed, they're not new. they have been hearing them for 18 months, since the president has been in office, that there are people inside the administration concerned about the president's behavior. have you heard that? >> i don't think that's no secret. you know, there's been an awful lot of turnover within this white house. it's a little bit more unusual to have this much in the first two years than after the first
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two years. so obviously there is turmoil there. but, you know, these are difficult times. this president is having to make some hard and tough decisions. and those decisions don't set well with people inside the white house and outside on occasion. so there is that natural tension that comes out of north korea, china, out of other major issues that this president is having to deal with. >> senator, pleasure to have you with us. thanks so much, sure. >> there are mandatory evacuations to tell all of you about. these affected more than a million people in the carolinas and georgia as hurricane floerns heads towards the eastern sea board. that's next.
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>> hurricane florence moves ever closer. florence at this moment is an extremely dangerous category four storm. it has 130 miles an hour winds and is expected to get stronger
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before making land fall on thursday. more than one million people are being forced to flee. now mandatory evacuations. live in myrtle beach, south carolina with the latest there. >> reporter: this hurricane has already strengthened. it is starting to widen as well. you won't be able to tell that just yet. you see behind me there is people there enjoying the last bit of sun before this storm is supposed to make its presence known on thursday afternoon and potentially make land fall thursday evening. i just got off the phone with the mayor of myrtle beach. she's concerned people aren't listening to these dire warnings they need to evacuate now. a million people are under mandatory evacuation warnings. she's really worried specifically about her area here in myrtle beach because of the heavy rains that they had this summer. the ground is heavily saturated and it makes the potential for
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an issue they don't usually have, flooding. she is pleaing with residents to evacuate myrtle beach, but she's worried this will be a pain stakingly slow process. it is not connected to an interstate, so it causes a lot of problems here when people are hitting the road. a woman said she had two homes here and a business and she's not planning to evacuate. that's not necessarily the smartest thing. >> she may change her mind as the conditions change there. thank you very much. joining us now is south carolina's governor. he ordered a mandatory evacuation of his state, 187 mile coastline. governor, thank you for being with us. >> thank you, happy to be here. >> why did you go to that length of ordering a mandatory evacuation now before you know what the storm is going to look like tomorrow? >> well, we don't know exactly what it's going to look like. all we know is it's coming and stronger than hurricane hugo.
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once it gets on the ground, the velocity will be more. more and more rain. that's exactly what the mayor in mer myrtle beach was talking about. but i ordered the mandatory evacuations because we're not going to gamble with a single south carolina life. we're acting on the best information. people are working around the clock analyzing information and setting up to move the traffic out. we will reverse the lanes at noon today four of the main highways will all be going in one direction, away from the coast and we're closing schools to make space available for shelter and also make school busses available if we need them to move people. we're not going to take a chance. it is hard to get all this stood up and to get people in place and ready to go and ready to react and to get the people
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prepared to move out. we can deescalate if we have to, but right now we expect the worst, preparing for the worst and hoping for the best. >> that brings us to the decision-making of your counter part in north carolina. governor cooper of the north carolina who has not yet ordered a mandatory evacuation of wilmington. wi are you in contact with governor cooper? are you urging him -- >> yes, ma'am. >> -- to think about a mandatory evacuation? >> we have been friends for a lot of years and i spoke to him twice yesterday. the governor of south carolina has authority, though, to order an evacuation of in all of the counties. the north carolina has a different system. but i'm confident that governor cooper is doing the same thing i'm doing, and that is looking at all the information, getting
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the best information, making the best predictions that we can to be sure that the people are safe. we'd rather be safe than to be sorry. this is going to be convenient at the very least for a lot of people, but we don't want to lose any lives. we are taking it one step at a time and being very careful. >> as you have mentioned before, your evacuation is like 177 hospitals and medical centers. plus nursing homes. where are all those folks going to go? >> well, that's a logistic nightmare we have. we ordered those evacuations 24 hours ago. we ordered the evacuation of these coastal counties. those are low lying areas on the coast. when you go to moving people out of hospitals and nursing homes, of course that takes a lot of time and takes a lot of planning. so we started on that 24 hours before we started on this evacuation. but that's what you call planning. that's why we have people that are making plans, opening places
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up to accommodate these people throughout the state. >> this is currently florence is a category four storm. but all of our storm watchers say that they see signs in place that it could go to a category five. have you lived through something like that before? >> yes, ma'am. hurricane hugo was a category four. i live in columbia. hugo in 1989 hit right smack on just above charleston, about 40 miles up and did damage all the way up into north carolina and even some down in georgia. that's quite a blow. and that hurricane came all the way through charleston, almost to georgetown, below myrtle beach. knocked down a lot of big oak trees in down up to charlotte. the winds on this one are predicted to be worse than the winds on that one.
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the water on this one is predicted to be heavier rain fall, which we know is guaranteed we're going to have a lot of flooding. the only question is how high is the surge going to be and where it will be. but we're taking nothing for granted. we are being careful. we are digesting and analyzing all the information that's coming in 24 hours a day, and we're going to keep the people alert and notified of what we know as soon as you know it. >> governor, we hope that all of your residents are heeding your warnings. we appreciate your taking time out of your very busy day to talk to us today. >> thank you very much. >> stay safe. >> we want to show you some things right now from lower manhattan. it has been 17 years since september 11th, 2001. we'll bring you some of these ceremonies coming up next.
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live pictures from ground zero right here in manhattan. sceremonies being held all aroud the country honoring the victims and those killed on september
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11th, 2001. 3,000 people died that day. live near the 9/11 memorial here in new york city. miguel? >> reporter: it is still difficult to talk about this. what you are seeing now are the members of the new york police department, the fire department, the port authority police departments bearing the u.s. flag. this is a flag that was here at the site 17 years ago. and the bag pipes will begin to play shortly. there will be a rendition of what we are hearing right now by 18-year-old young woman, olivia newton. she was born on september 11th, 2001. they are remembering 2,977 people that died 17 years ago. six of them died on february 26th, 1993 in the first attack
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on the world trade center. there will be six moments of silence throughout the day today. two to congressmen rate the moment when the plane struck each tower. two to dmem rate when the towers came down. one to commemorate when the plane struck the pentagon. the final one to commemorate when flight 93 crashed into western pennsylvania. the 40 individuals who died on that plane perhaps knew who was going to happen and tried to take control of it and the hijackers crashed it into the field. that's where president trump will be. vice president pence will be at the pentagon and just an extraordinarily somber day here in manhattan and across new york. a different day. it's a very foggy day. sort of fitting for the memorial and this day. it's also a day that the city itself feels somber. being on the subways, on the
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streets, it is just less of that new york right now. >> we can hear the emotion in your voice, and we feel it. i remember that day, thinking that the searing pain of what i was witnessing would never leave us. i thought that life would never be normal again. of course, we have recovered. but on a day like this, we are reminded again of that pain. and it all comes flooding right back. >> 17 years later is a long time. as we hear the end of this song, we'll wait for the moment of silence. remember the moment that american airlines 11 hit the north tower.
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that's the ceremony down at ground zero, one of several we will observe and watch here at cnn all morning long. i know september 11th comes once a year for many of us. we watch these moments once a year. but remember for the families there, the people that lost loved ones, it is every day. it is every day. and, yes, the children who were
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born that year, the parents, the mothers and fathers they lost are headed to college soon. but those they lost will never ever be forgotten. you are watching the reading of the names. this will go on for a long time here this morning. we'll watch. we'll be right back. paul andrew acquaviva donald l. adams and put it here. the all-new lexus es. a product of mastery. experience amazing at your lexus dealer.
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at upmc, living-donor transplants put you first. so you don't die waiting. upmc does more living-donor liver transplants than any other center in the nation. find out more and get out of line today. we're watching remembrances. these are live pictures of the congressmen rati come m all over the country. 17 years after the terror attacks on this day, 9/11. as we speak in new york, the names are being read of the nearly 3,000 people killed on that day. john is here with us to share his thoughts of that day. john, i just saw the video of mayor giuliani. he's there in new york at one of
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the remembrances. we all remember his steady hand and voice during that time. you were with him that day. >> i was. i was his chief speech writer at the age of 28. this will never not be a hard day for any of us who were there and lived through that time in new york and lower manhattan. plane hit 8:46 and the towers came down between 10:00 and 10:30. in that time we not only lost humanity in the chance measuring 2.4 on the richer scale. but then there are the police officers, the port authority police officers and the humans who worked in the towers and the response of the city was what i found so inspiring. it was a response of a civil society to a massive attack. we did find a deeper resilience. that's as much as anything what
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we're honoring when we mark the loss and why it is so important not to give in to a sense of historic amnesia that this is simply in the past because as john berman pointed out, for the families that lost people it is an every day loss. but it is an obligation for us to remember and honor the folks and lost and the heroism we saw can't be said enough. the people that were leaving the towers said over and over again, they were running up, the firefighters, the first responders as we were going down. >> one of the things that's so hopeful is so many of these families have become involved with groups and charities of their own and paid it forward and worked with other victims of disasters. to watch the spirit and resolve of these people as we're watching the names being read, i don't know how old that girl is right there because she can't be 17. i don't know who she lost there, but there are so many families who lost so much on that day.
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>> and families carry it forward. and the first responders carry it forward. when there is an attack, natural disaster, they go out. >> i remember mayor giuliani that day being asked how many people? how many people have been killed? i remember he said we don't have the numbers we have yet, but it will be more than we can bare. >> "cnn newsroom" picks up after the break.
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good morning, everyone. i'm poppy harlow in new york. at this moment 17 years ago, the most horrific and deadly terror attack ever perpetrated on the united states was just beginning, and the world would never be the same. right now at ground zero, family members have once again gathered to read the names of each of the nearly 3,000 men and women and children killed when hijackers flew commercial airplanes into the twin towers and the pentagon and the heroes on flight 93 downed their plane believed to be headed for the capital into that field in pennsylvania. president trump i

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