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that's over water, over the ocean. still picking up more humidity to dump on these already flooded areas. 14 rivers in major flood stage or higher. some even making a run at record. davis had a wind speed of 108. wilmington air park, not far from where you are, 105. that happened about three hours ago when the eye was on top of you. a couple things are still going on. the rain continues on up to the flooded areas around new bern. also here to the north, a couple purple squares. those purple squares are now tornado warnings. these are not ef-4s and 5s like we see in the plains in the spring, but like waterspouts that will come onshore and still could do damage because the winds could be like 120 or 130. and that's enough wind speed to do some damage. so let's kind of get to the forecast. here's the future of what this storm looks like here. we're going to take you all the way, this is 8:30, 9:00. we'll stop here around 2:00 in the morning. and so that's what we're going to be looking at. myrtle beach, right around
conway, that's the center. now i back you up. this is where we are now. and the storm is slowly, like 3 miles per hour, gliding toward myrtle beach. but the heaviest rain is wilmington and northward. heavy, heavy rainfall pushing more water over some of these beaches. there's like a figure-eight island that's like the high spot, six feet. i imagine that every single spot of that will have some saltwater going over it, but most of those homes are of course on stilts. here you go, 80 miles per hour. the latest, the 11:00 advisory. there are still gusts, almost 100 miles per hour, and it is moving to the west-southwest at 3. here's the forecast. here's where we are right now. right onshore, right almost at cape fear, and it's going to go down close to conway and turn on up toward the north and northeast. this is eventually, this is still two days away, just to get to this point. let's go point by point to where we are exactly right now. because a lot of people are wanting to know, i'm at myrtle.
what's going on here. north myrtle and myrtle, still have offshore flow coming in around the storm and around this way. offshore flow not pushing storm surge to you yet but getting you wet. every time one of these bands comes by, the winds go up about 10 miles per hour. you get one band and then it's 45 miles per hour. the next band, 55 miles per hour. so this is going to be an all-night affair for you. if you're to the northeast of the storm, it has dried out some. some. there's still a lot of moisture down here, over the ocean, but let it rain in the ocean. we don't care about that. as it comes back toward the northeast and into north carolina, it has dried significantly compared today where we are and were about an hour ago. anderson, you're right there in wilmington, wilmington from carolina beach coming up to wilmington, every time a band comes to you, you're likely going to see wind speeds around 60 to 65. that should be the maximum you should see for the rest of the day. >> well, that's i guess some good news. chad, thank you for that.
logan poole, an extreme meteorologist, is with me. with all the storms you have covered, how does this compare? >> a little different, anderson. the pressure actually stayed fairly low for a storm of this magnitude. we talked about, oh, it's dropping from category 4 to 3 to 2, but barometric pressure, which is one way to measure the intensity of a storm, stayed fairly low. in the 950 millibars up until landfall. that being the case, it allowed the storm to expand the wind field instead of being so concentrated. that's why even now, portions of the eastern north carolina are still experiencing very strong wind. >> the sizes of this thing, it doubled yesterday. and it's moving so slowly. people here are going to be feeling this for how long? >> very long time. i mean, it's hard to know when the steering currents break down for these storms, it's hard to know how fast they move or where they might go precisely. it will be moving slowly, and the size of it and being next to the ocean with the southerly
wind, bringing in all that moisture off the atlantic ocean, that's going to produce amazing rainfall amounts. so even after we kind of get past this coastal version of a hurricane, it's going to transition to perhaps record-breaking rainfall for some of these people. >> they have been talking here in wilmington of eight months of rain in the next three days. >> almost unimaginable. when you have to bring up the yard stick to measure rainfall, you know it's a problem, and these people are going to have extreme wind in the first place. like we said, the wind field is so large, so maybe they're dealing with wind damage from trees down or power lines. outages here are incredible, all over town, north, south, east, and west, and we found hardly anywhere that has power here. so when you couple that with the impending rainfall, it's just going to be a disaster. we don't know how to avoid it. >> we saw one of the big transformers blow last night, i think it was near midnight or the 11:00 hour, kind of that ominous blue light that flashes. that was the first time we had seen that. obviously, there is no power around here now. you know, we were talking to the
mayor before. he's talking about 20, 30, 40 inches of rain in some places. and there's some -- he's also concerned about migrant communities about 10 or 12 miles outside of town where people may not be able to get help. maybe afraid to call in because of their status. he wants people to know that's not a concern. the concern is just keeping people safe. >> that's absolutely right. the special needs are especially vulnerable when it comes to these disasters. they're not always able to move freely and not able to deal with the general stresses that come with severe weather situation. for most of us, we can probably hang out without ac for a day, but if you're on oxygen or have to go to dialysis, for various reasons. it's a much larger problem. >> which we saw in maria, of course. thanks so much. we appreciate your work. i want to go to miguel marquez. where are you? i hear it's getting bad where you are. >> yeah. we woke up this morning in the eye of the storm, and literally,
there was not a breeze. this is the situation now in carolina beach. it's extremely difficult to stand and certainly the rain and the sand blowing right now is quite painful. look, they are out of power at carolina beach. in new hanover county, 94,000 people have lost power. they have not suffered any major flooding or serious water rescues. one thing that authorities are asking right now is that if you have an emergency in new hanover county, call only if it's a life-threatening emergency. the 911 operators are inundated, they say, with people calling about downed trees and local flooding. and just being concerned about what's going on. but if it is not life-threatening, don't call 911 because the serious calls they're expecting cannot get through at the moment. what is also amazing is that yesterday, we were here. the wind was blowing from the west toward the ocean, basically, because the storm was going around this way.
as the eye went over, it started to pick up, the wind was blowing due east. now it's blowing up from the south. and you can see the waves as well, just the way they have changed. they're now even coming up from the south. that surf really coming up. we're just about at high tide here, and that surf is really coming up. this is where they are going to experience some of the worst flooding that they're going to get, and the storm is just creeping along so slowly that they're going to have more than one tide. you guys have been talking about this. more than one tide that will come in during this storm. so it is, you know, batten down the hatches time for carolina beach, north carolina. they just survived the front end of the storm pretty well. there's some minor damage throughout town. but now here comes the back end, and let's see where things go. anderson. >> miguel, because i can't see you, is this the worst that you have seen so far there? >> the winds were blowing very
hard last night as well. my colleague derrick van dam got blown around all night long. they were getting gusts around 90 miles per hour. we are not there yet. we're probably feeling a sustained wind of 50, maybe 60 right now, with some bigger gusts. but certainly, it's having an effect on the sea and the waves and how far it's blowing up on the intercoastal waterway and on snow's cuff, this canal that goes up into the fear river. that's where the concern about a lot of that water going. so the wind is blowing much harder, and presumably, if officials are right, it's going to get harder before it's over. anderson. >> yeah. all right, miguel marquez, stay safe. >> brian todd is elsewhere in wilmington. he's been driving around looking at damage, trees down, water on the ground. where are you and what are you seeing? >> anderson, we're in the wrightsboro neighborhood of wilmington, north of downtown wilmington, getting our first
real survey of the really severe damage that's being suffered by some of these narnds. you can see this downed power line is not quite snapped off but a really dangerous situation here. look at the tree down in this yard. power lines down all over the place. as you can see, this storm is still whipping through here. it's still a very dangerous situation for some of these residents. we were told just a short time ago by wilmington city officials that they have had calls, mostly from people who are in need of help because of trees falling on their houses. you can see behind me, a photojournalist can pan down to this tree way down here. completely across the road, so access to this road is blocked. again, this is some of what first responders are having to deal with today. and again, we are still in the middle of this thing. a lot of wind gusts have just whipped through here. we have to keep an eye out for flying debris. that's always a danger in this situation. we also have some information from a local hospital. the new hanover regional medical center. officials talked to about a
short time ago. part of the roof of that hospital was torn off. one part of it was in a construction zone. another part of it was in an administration area. no injuries or evacuations needed. when you start to see hospitals compromised by this thing, you know you have to keep an eye out on that. they did not have to evacuate anybody. they say that patient care was not affected, but they do have about 450 patients in that hospital. some other damage over here i can show you. my photojournalist dave is shooting right through this downed power line to shoot over here. this house here really dodged a bullet becausia can see a tree down just in the back yard there, and again, this is our first look at some of the damage in these neighborhoods. we're just cruising around now. a lot of these neighborhoods have been really inaccessible to rescuers and to us, frankly. so we're just getting our first look at this now, anderson. still a very dangerous situation in these neighborhoods. >> yeah, there's no telling with
debris. that's always a huge concern, particularly when it gets dark out. but even in this, there's low visibility with this wind. even little pieces of dirt, little pieces of sediment, sand, really feel like pinpricks as they hit you. you also hear these strange sounds. you have to keep looking around to make sure that there's nothing coming loose. we have seen some of the lamp posts here break apart earlier in the overnight hours. so that's obviously something we're going to be watching for. we're going to take another short break. we have our kraunlts, again, all throughout the region. we're going to continue to cover this. we'll be right back.
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as you know, wrightsville beach is where this storm first made landfall, 7:15 a.m. this morning. martin safrbage is there, we had problems communicating with him before. i want to check in, see if we can talk to him now. martin, what's the situation there? i'm wondering if you were on the air or awake at 7:15, what it was like when it made landfall? >> we were awake. we were aware. the impact was strong. i will tell you that you do not see where we are significant damage in wrightsville beach, but let me put a caveat to that. we're just before the bridge. we can't go any farther because law enforcement has that bridge closed, and that means that right now, you just can't go in to see. but from looking across, when there was a lull, you did not see significant damage to either the many vessels that are there or the homes and businesses along the intercoastal. it's probably a very different
situation along the atlantic ocean itself. we have to stress that. the situation now is that the wind, of course, of flor nls is coming from exactly the opposite direction. stressed all those buildings, those structures for at least 12 hours one way. now it's stressing them the other. this is the problem that happens, when the lines snap, when the roofs begin to break apart, and this is when the long slog of this storm begins to take its toll on the many, many buildings here. on the drive in from wilmington, we came across what was an advance team from fema as they took advantage of the lull, trying to assess what damage they have seen. so far, in this area, they're saying they're seeing moderate damage. not significant structural damage. yes, large trees down, major tree limbs down, they say, but not catastrophic damage. of course, the storm is still ongoing, and that was before the back side came along. regarding flooding they're seeing in the initial wilmington area, they were describing that
as primarily ponding due to the howeveavy rain or storm surge f the atlantic ocean. that's their very initial assessment. there was some structural damage to older buildings. modern buildings seem to be holding up. as you know, anderson, it's how long this goes on and on top of that, a flooding event, that is beyond question. now, it's the back side of florence that is beginning to pound against this same area and likely to doso for some time. anderson. >> i want to find out more about potential damage. i want to talk to tim owens, the manager at wrightsville beach. what are you seeing? how are things holding up? >> good morning, anderson. we were out probably about 30 minutes ago. you know, we do have a little structural damage to some roofs. we couldn't really assess the oceanfront because we had pretty significant erosion. but mostly, downed power lines,
cable lines. the entire island has no power, but for the most part, we fared well. we still have another tide cycle to go through that we have to be concerned about. we have not got any inundation or tidal surge as of last night, so hopefully we're on the downside of this storm. we pretty much survived pretty good. i know there's a lot of people around probably hurting worse than we are, but i just want to give you an update on that. >> so when is the next tide cycle? >> the next tide cycle is at basically about 30 minutes to an hour from now. so once we're past that, our plans are to go back out and assess the island again to see what the -- see if there's any more damage, see if there's any significant flooding, which again, there has not been of yet. we are -- we have done some live streaming on our facebook page. so if you want to see sort of where we're at with damage and those types of things. we didn't really focus on individual homes, more focused on general routes and things of
that nature. we have been doing that live streaming and taking pictures there. after this, we have to get the water system back up and running. we shut that down just as a precautionary measure because it was a category 5 storm, 4 storm, and we have to make sure our sewer system is running and rely on duke energy to come in and make sure everything is safe. we want to make sure everything is safe before we allow residents -- we'll probably allow residents and business owners back in first. and then hopefully after that, once we get things cleaned up and everything is safe, and the residents have had a chance to be back, it will be business as usual, hopefully. >> let me ask a question which i know a lot of homeowners and business owners are going to want to ask, which is what's the timeline do you think on them being able to get back? >> i'm really waiting. i'm going to do some press releases here shortly and put some stuff on facebook. and those type of social media. we're going to wait until the next tide cycle comes around.
you know, basically, duke energy can't get out and do their thing until winds are less than 35 miles per hour. so if i had to make a prediction, it could be sunday into monday before we maybe let people come back. but again, this next tide cycle, it could really go downhill. my hope is that it does not, but we'll take a wait and see approach and make some more press releases here afterwards. we do a press release for folks to watch live. we have been doing them for about three days. we do it at 9:00 a.m., 2:00 p.m., and 9:00 p.m. we'll keep up with that schedule to update people on where we're at and what our plans are as far as allowing residents back. >> we appreciate you staying on top of it and letting us know. we'll check in with you. we're going to take a short break. our coverage continues here in north carolina, south carolina, and points in between. as moms, we send our kids out into the world, full of hope.
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hello, i'm kate bolduan. we'll get back to anderson in wilmington, north carolina, shortly. as we continue to follow the onslaught of hurricane florence in the carolinas. i want to bring you breaking news out of washington right now. right now, paul manafort, donald trump's former campaign chairman is in a federal courtroom, pleading guilty to two counts of conspiracy. in return, he'll avoid the trial, yes, this is his second trial that was due to start monday.
less than a month after his first trial ended with him being convicted on eight counts. so what is happening in court right now? what does this deal mean? does this deal now mean he's cooperating in some way, shape, or form with robert mueller's team? let's find out. shimon is following all these developments. what's happening right now? >> major development here, kate. we're learning just moments ago that paul manafort has agreed, has agreed to cooperate with the justice department. he has -- the prosecutor there, andrew weissmann, told a judge moments ago in court that his plea agreement, paul manafort's plea agreement is a cooperation agreement. and the other charges they will drop at the sentencing or at the agreement of successful cooperation. here, kate, obviously, a stunning development. this is the answer that we have been looking for to a question of whether or not this agreement, whether or not this plea would mean paul manafort would cooperate, and here we have it.
just moments ago, obviously, what that agreement entails, we don't know. the government did tell the judge that paul manafort proffered, he gave information to the government already. we believe that that had occurred in the last few days. so certainly, a major development here in this investigation, kate. we now have word from the court, from the government, that paul manafort is cooperating in this investigation. >> this is huge news. this has been the major question all along, shimon, right? if there was a plea deal, if it came before the first trial or after the first trial, before the second trial, say it one more time? evan perez -- hold on one second. i'm going to go to evan perez outside the courtroom. you're inside. what can you tell us about what's happening right now? >> that's right, kate. just a minute ago, prosecutor andrew weissmann announced in court that there is a cooperation agreement with paul manafort. we don't know the details yet of
what exactly that cooperation agreement is, what the terms of it is, but he did mention it just as he was explaining what paul manafort is pleading guilty to. that's a bit of a surprise because it was a big question, obviously, that everybody had as a result of this plea agreement, was whether or not there was an ongoing cooperation agreement. and it appears from what we just learned that there is a cooperation agreement. now, what this entails is obviously the big question now. we had talked to president trump's legal team in the last couple days. these talks had intensified, and they expressed confidence that whatever, if there was a cooperation agreement, they were confident that this did not involve any cooperation against the president. so there are other people, obviously, that are part of this investigation. we quo there are people who are charged, including people in russia who are charged in the special counsel investigation. so it may well be that paul
manafort is going to provide information about those people who he was in business with over the last few years, obviously. so again, a lot of details yet to come out. but this was a bit of a surprise in court. i can describe to you right now a little bit of the scene. paul manafort is standing there in a dark gray suit with a purple tie, and he's very glum. we have seen him smiling a lot in court, especially in virginia where he was on trial. today, he's not smiling at all. he's glum and he's quietly responding, yes, your honor, when the judge is explaining to him all the rights he's giving up as a result of this plea deal. as a result of this plea deal, kate, one of the things he's doing is giving up his right to any appeal and the government is agreeing to drop the remaining ten charges that he faces in virginia. so this is going to resolve the charges that he's facing in virginia as well as here in the district of columbia. one other interesting thing
mentioned by the judge is that paul manafort is giving up the rights to his story, essentially. he's giving up the right to make any money off of publishing any book or any movies that might be made from this entire saga. >> before then, we have a lot more questions right now. evan, hold on. let me get back to shimon. a big question right now is why didn't he do that sooner? >> that's an excellent question. he could have done this sooner, could have avoided the trial. we don't know everything about this cooperation. we will probably learn some time soon what it will involve. but, you know, think about this, kate. you now have a key figure in this entire investigation, paul manafort, who's met with the special counsel, has offered information to the special counsel. we don't know what that information is. this is something that we have all, all along been saying the the special counsel wanted. they wanted his cooperation. it could be that his cooperation is limited only to certain
things. obviously, the big question is does that involve anything with the president or the campaign or does this involve other things. hopefully, those questions will be answered. this is certainly, and you know, something that will change the impact. this will impact the investigation. this will change the way this investigation goes. i had never expected certainly that paul manafort would sit with the special counsel, sit with him for interviews, tell him things he knows, tell him crimes he's committed, perhaps crimes he knows of that other people have committed. no doubt the fact that the special counsel has met with him, that they did this proffer agreement, that he's entered into this cooperation agreement, changes the entire dynamic of this investigation. and really the story as we move forward, kate. >> yeah, i mean, this has been a huge question from the very beginning when there wasn't even an investigation into paul manafort, and now this absolutely has to change the dynamic of this entire thing. joining me now, joining all of
us right now is cnn legal analyst shan wu. for a time, he served as an attorney for rick gates, the star witness in the first trial of paul manafort, and jeff toobin is here. does this surprise you? >> well, i mean, what surprises me is that he didn't do it earlier if he was going to do it. all of the benefit you get from cooperating is you don't force the government to go to trial. you get the benefit in sentencing of cooperation. he will get some benefit in sentencing from cooperation, but it's not -- it certainly wasn't as advantageous of him to go to trial and then cooperate. criminal defendants don't always act very rationally. they sometimes are angry. they're nervous. they think they can beat a case. he obviously didn't beat this case. but the real question now is, and the question that consumes the whole matter is, what is he
telling mueller's office? what does he know about other people's criminality? and what does he know about any illegality, in particular, regarding the trump campaign in 2016? >> shan, what do you think, and this is an unknown, but what are the -- what's the universe of possibility of what the terms of this cooperation agreement could be? >> oh, i think we can discern that without it being in writing. a little bit unusual, it was not reduced to writing. if i was his counsel, i would have wanted that in writing. the ubverse is a very broad one for the benefits to manafort. if his cooperation is helpful, his sentence could be vastly reduced through a number of mechanisms. they can file a letter to the judge to go beneath the guidelines. this can do a rule 35 asking for the sentence to be reduced later. i agree -- >> what kind of jail time was he looking at? >> well, if you're looking at the virginia one alone at this point, it looks like under the
guidelines that's probably going to be around ten years. the d.c. one could have been much higher when you put on top of that, but i understand that part of this deal was they capped it at ten years. and i would expect that his defense team is looking for it to be substantially less than that in light of the cooperation. and you know, to jeffrey's point, it's surprising he didn't do it earlier. it definitely would have been advantageous for him to do it earlier. but you know, people in this situation go through a very slow change in their attitude. they start off very angry, often in denial. his teep clearly was willing to fight very, very hard. they took a gamble splitting it into two cases, and that began to unravel early. and this is a huge victory for the mueller prosecution. they just put huge pressure on manafort, tying up all of his assets in the bail negotiations. most of those are going to be forefitted now. they flipped his business partner, gates. it's been a march of going forward with tremendous pressure, and now they have
basically caused him to cave. >> and part of the plea agreement is he admits to absolutely everything that he was charged with. everything. >> everything he fought in the last trial. >> everything he fought in the last trial. the ten -- the outstanding charges. >> on the most simple level, he has to provide -- the government, the mueller team needs to get something out of this cooperation. they wouldn't agree to this deal unless they were going to get something significant out of it. >> correct. that's true. i mean, they didn't really give up very much here. since he's admitted to everything, a ten-year cap, i mean, he probably wasn't going to get more than ten years anyway. so the way federal sentencing works is if it's done -- criminal sentences, you have to serve 85% of a sentence that you get in federal court today. if he got ten years, he was looking at 8 1/2 years in prison. he's 69 years old. 8 1/2 years at 69 is a very, very long sentence.
if you cooperate and the prosecution agrees that your cooperation is significant, they can go to the judge and reduce your sentence dramatically. the judges in federal court reward cooperation a great deal. but prosecutors have to be impressed by this cooperation. they have to believe that you are telling the truth. presumably, there have been discussions here. i mean, you have what's called proffer sessions where prosecutors get a good sense of what you're saying. >> do they -- >> they know what he's going to say, and they obviously think it's worthwhile making this deal. >> let me bring in cnn's chief political analyst, gloria borger. as shimon says, this is a huge moment in changing the narrative, in changing the di m dynamic of this entire story. regarding robert mueller's investigation into possible collusion and obstruction of justice. that leads up to the president. >> right. well, we don't know, and i think
shimon was saying this, and jeff. we don't really know at this point what cooperation will mean in this particular case. and i just got off the phone with a source who is familiar with the manafort case and is a pro-trump source. and you know, this source says that all along, manafort's attorneys had been telling the president's lawyers that he had nothing to say about donald trump. and we just saw that sarah sanders just tweeted right -- >> she just put out a statement. this had absolutely nothing to do with the president or his victorious 2016 presidential campaign. it is totally unrelated. >> right. so that's their story, and they're sticking to it. and we should also note, as caitlin palance has reported in all her great reporting this morning, that donald trump's name has not come up at all in
the courtroom. and you know, throughout much of this case. and so they are saying that the white house shouldn't be worried. john dowd, who used to represent the president of the united states, has always been saying that this case has nothing to do with donald trump. so what he is going to cooperate on is going to be pretty interesting. >> and clearly, that's the entire -- that's the whole -- that's the whole ball game. what is he cooperating on? that's everything. i'm remembering, i think it was a tweet. of course, it was if it came from the president. but on that remarkable day of manafort being convicted, and michael cohen being pleading guilty, gloria, the president at one point tweeted that unlike michael cohen, manafort refused to break. make up stories in order to get a deal. such respect for a brave man. >> right. >> i now wonder what -- if the president feels that confidence today. >> if he thinks manafort is so
brave, i have a tweet -- there's a tweet for everything. back on august 22nd, where donald trump tweeted that, i feel very badly for paul manafort and his wonderful family. justice took a 12-year-old tax case among other things and applied tremendous pressure on him. it's part of the same quote, i guess, that you're reading. >> exactly. >> exactly, so i wonder if the president still feels badly. and don't forget, you know, manafort and the president during the campaign, at least, were not particularly close. according to my sources. manafort was brought in to the campaign by a mutual friend of manafort and the president, tom barra barrack. and when stories started being written about his connections with ukraine and lobbying for the pro-russia president, he was dumped unceremonially from the
campaign. so this is all moving very quickly now. and we're just going to have to let it unspool a little bit to see what it really means. >> let's go over to the white house right now. jeff zeleny has reporting on possibly what the president thinks about all this. jeff, what are you picking up? >> certainly, president trump is watching all of this unfold, and as gloria was saying, the president certainly made his views clear a month ago after the first proceeding here in virginia, but the president, i'm told, has been watching all of this unfold this morning on television. he was briefed by his lawyers earlier. he's in the residence of the white house, as we speak. the first scheduled item on his agenda was supposed to be a security briefing, an intelligence briefing, but he is focusing on this at least a the moment. you saw the statement from the white house press secretary, sarah sanders. again saying this has nothing to do with the president. but that's unclear, and one thing also unclear here is the level of cooperation, as we have
been saying. we certainly know that the president's mood cannot be bright on this. he has always thought that paul manafort, even though he's distanced himself from him, saying, oh, he only worked for me for a brief period of time, they always thought that paul manafort would hold firm. now, when you add this to the list of others who have pleaded guilty and are cooperating with authorities, certainly, it's not something the president was hoping for or expecting, so we'll see if we do hear from the president directly on this. you'll remember, after the sentencing of george papadopoulos just a week or so ago, the president immediately was mocking the 14-day jail sentence, really within minutes of that being announced. he's quiet so far. of course, not saying much at all today, as he and other members of his administration are overseeing hurricane coverage. but this is something that certainly i expect would shake him, kate. >> can i just add one thing about this notion of what is the cooperation? >> yeah. >> what's unclear is what
manafort is saying. the way cooperation agreements work virtually all the time is you have to sit there and answer every single question the prosecutors have. there are not cooperation agreements where you say, well, i'm going to cooperate about x subject but not y subject. >> they're not limiting -- the universe of possibility is the universe of possibility. any question that the special counsel would want him to answer. >> absolutely. now, what is unclear and it's very important to point this out is whether paul manafort has anything incriminating to say about any other person. >> right, but again, would the prosecutors agree to the deal if they didn't think he had anything? >> i mean, they would agree to the deal if they believed he was telling the truth. and if they believe he's telling the truth and there is nothing incriminating about donald trump or anywhere else, i think they would take the deal. usually, they want to build other cases, but i think the
ethical obligation of a prosecutor is to try to get the truth. and if they believe the truth is that he doesn't know about any illegal activity on the part of the president or anyone else, then they'll make this deal. what we don't know is what manafort is saying about other people. >> and also, kate, let me just add. it may not just be about the president of the united states. if you read through this, and i have just done that, manafort came up with this entire scheme to hide money. so he wouldn't pay taxes on it. and it seems in fact that there were both public relations firms and law firms that went along with the scheme, that lobbied members of congress and others without letting them know that in fact this fake entity that they were working for, run by manafort, was actually being run by the president of ukraine at the time, the pro-russian
president. and so it's clear to me that manafort's probably going to be talking a lot about that too. >> there seems to be a lot to talk about now. for us and for paul manafort. gloria, thank you so much. everybody, thank you. the breaking news, paul manafort has entered into a plea deal with prosecutors and agreed importantly here, agreed to cooperate with the special counsel, robert mueller, in his investigation. very important breaking news on the russia investigation. we also continue to follow the other very important breaking news on the coast of the carolinas as hurricane florence is now just sitting there, slowly walking along the coastline and battering cities along the way. we're going to get back to anderson cooper on the ground right after this. i don't keep track of regrets.
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was a mother and two-year-old child trapped in this neighborhood outside of new bern where we are. we are on this boat and they let us jump on and navigate the flood waters trying to reach this home. it's proving difficult. the water gets shallow and you can see what they are deeialing with as they walk through about three feet of water. they are pushing the boat through and they are trying to reach this neighborhood. we have been cutoff this other way that we came off from the woods. the rain just is torrential. a downpour. they are doing all of this in the downpour of this rain. they came down here a little while ago and drove an hour and heard reports of people needing help. they brought their boat down here and we are following them to see. reminiscent of what we saw a year ago in hurricane harvey in the houston area.
people who descended on the scenes and the floodwater situations and launched their own boats into the flood waters to help people who needed to be helped. this is just now starting to unfold. we will see how it develops in the hours ahead. >> in this case they have the address. have they actually communicated with the person? it's possible that person has been taken out. have they talked to the person? >> you told me you spoke directly with the woman. he had a conversation with the woman and they told them they were on the way. whether or not they have been rescued since then is not exactly clear. they are still trying to navigate. sounds like the house they are looking for is just beyond this tree line that you see to the side. they were trying to navigate through the floodwaters to get back in the neighborhood. we got to the end of the road.
now they are trying to figure out another route in. they have communicated with the woman and child and trying to reach her right now. >> how tricky is it when there is water on the ground. sometimes you are walking on someone's lawn and sometimes on the street. it's difficult ton how deep it is. you have to move slowly. >> they were launching and pushing the boat and helping them get the boat into the water. we had to do it off the side of the road where the road dipped down to get this boat in. as we walk through and stepped over large limbs, it's definitely nerve racking. you don't know exactly what is under this water. as play mentioned, you have to do these things to help your neighbors. that's why they are going to these lengths to get into the
situations and try to reach this woman. you try to facility path of the street you know is there, but what is off the roads is treacherous. over here off to my side, this is an industrial area. there is a large piece of wood and industrial debris. it's not clear if that might have been floated out beyond that fence. those are the hazards you are dealing with as they make their way through the area and try to make sense of how they will reach this mother and child. >> do you know if they are able to get to her, where would they bring her? are there shelters she can go to? >> i don't think so. we haven't thought that far ahead. there are some places or family friends that they can reconnect them with, but initially you get
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i'm john king in washington. hurricane florence tearing through the carolinas. first, here in washington a huge win for the russia special counsel. paul manafort moments ago pleading guilty in washington in a federal courtroom to one count of experience and one count of witness tampering in court. very significant. special counsel mueller said he now agree and is cooperating with the federal government. outside the courtroom in washington, the key question, do we know the details of that