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. 7:00 eastern, 4:00 in the afternoon out west. i'm ana cabrera in new york and you are live in the "cnn newsroom." so much to talk about. it's just a matter of days when the nation will hear directly from the woman who says supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh sexually assaulted her decades ago. no second-hand retelling of her story, no filtered statements through her lawyers. christine blasey ford has agreed that thursday she will walk in to the senate judiciary committee and tell her version of what she says happened to her back in 1982. she says kavanaugh, who was then 17, pinned her to a bed, covered her mouth and tried to remove her clothes before she eventually got away. following her testimony, brett
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kavanaugh lltwill also get time answer questions. borris sanchez is outside trump tower in new york where the president arrived a short term ago. jessica, we know the time and place of this hearing, but beyond that there is still a number of things that need to be worked out. >> there are still several sticking points for blasey ford's attorneys, but the committee doesn't seem to be bundle. so blasey ford's team, they want more witnesses. and right now the committee is only scheduled to hear from blasey ford herself as well as judge brett kavanaugh. blasey ford's attorneys floated this idea of bringing in trauma experts to testify as well as people who were supposedly at this party. but chuck grassley has issued a lengthy update about it saying the committee has been investigating for the past week or so and they have talked to all four people who were supposedly at this party and all
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four of them including judge kavanaugh saying they have no recollection of this alleged party where blasey ford says the sexual assault took place. in addition, chuck grassley is saying they have tried to interview her. they said the committee asked dr. ford to participate in a confidential interview with democratic committee staff the day after learning her identity september 17th. the committee has reiterated that request over the last week. so no response yet on that point from blasey ford's attorneys, but they have been in these ongoing negotiations for several days now. finally this morning they agreed to the testimony on thursday. here's what they said earlier today in a statement. they said despite actual threats to her safety and her life, dr. ford believes it is important for senators to hear directly from her about the sexual assault committed against her. so right now the stage is, in
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fact, set for blasey thursday when blasey ford is scheduled to testify. she will go first, after which judge kavanaugh will go before the committee, all of this commencing at 10:00 a.m. it will be open to the public. we also know that blasey ford will have dedicated security along with two attorneys at the counsel table while she's questioned. so ana, this is finally come to terms here. weir expecting it on thursday. >> borris, president trump is now inside trump tower ahead of time u.n. general assembly. he's been pretty vocal about the woman accusing brett kavanaugh, tripling down on his support for his nominee. but some senior republicans are telling him he's not helping by tweeting so much. >> that's right, ana. yeah, initially after these accusations from christine blasey ford came out about brett kavanaugh, the president's pick,
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the president was somewhat restrained, sources in the white house told cnn that they were essentially waiting for the president to go after her on twitter and then just a few days ago he openly questioned why it took her so long to come forward with these accusations, this alleged sexual assault she says took place in 1981. that didn't sit well with senior republicans, including senate majority leader who called president trump friday morning and told him those tweets were not helping. since then president trump has remained relatively quiet on the ongoing negotiations between ford and the senate judiciary committee and the announcement that she will testify on thursday. the president did tweet a pair of times earlier this evening, but he kept that to just the subject of meeting with japanese prime minister shinzo abe who is also here in new york for the united nations general assembly. some reporting from "the washington post" as well, reporting that indicates that judge kavanaugh has spent several hours over the past
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couple of days at the white house with aides going through mock confirmation hearings, giving mock testimony to these aides who are playing specific senators, asking him questions about ford's upcoming testimony, questions about his time at georgetown preparatory school, and according to "the washington post," kavanaugh has not wanted to answer some of those questions. the white house, though, clearly wanting him to be prepared for the heated testimony that is due this thursday, ana. >> no doubt he's going to get questions by the senators about those issues. thank you borris sanchez, jessica schneider. i want to bring in someone who's seen the confirmation process play out, david gergen is our senior political analyst and also advised four u.s. presidents, both democrat and republican. david, as you are just taking all of this in, how big of a moment is this? >> it's a huge moment for the country. this could determine the direction and the decisions of
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the supreme court for 30 years. just kavanaugh, everyone thinks he's very bright and will be influential as a conservative voice. it's also an important moment in the lives of the individuals. judge kavanaugh has had basically a spotless record, everyone looks up to him, strong intellectually. he has a record of being a good parent, a good father, good husband. now suddenly his reputation is very much in question now. but at the same time here we have christine ford coming. here's a woman who's extraordinarily brave, who knew before she went public with her name that she would catch hell. but i don't think she had any idea how vicious and how threatening this period would be. and now she's coming in to the lion's den. this is kavanaugh's town. he goes to the white house to get briefed. he goes to the white house to go through mock sessions. she has just a small little
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team. they've been fending off a ton of stuff. this is a christine versus goliath moment. >> also brings up so many memories of what happened with anita hill. i want you to listen to democratic senator patty murray talking about that specifically on met the press this morning. >> one of the things that i remember from the anita hill hearings was the way she was treated by united states senators, that she was presumed that she was lying, that it was a fantasy, that she was making it up. that's how the questions came from the senators, and she was never given the full opportunity to be believed from the start. i sense that again. >> david, what do you think needs to happen to make sure there isn't an anita hill 2.0 as she would describe in terms of the process of questioning? >> we may already be beyond that point, and that is whether in
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hill's case the president george bush sr. quickly sent word what they heard about hill's complaints, they sent a directive to the justice department to run an fbi investigation. there were a few witnesses, and then both on the question of an fbi investigation and the question of witnesses, so far christine ford has been told no. she's getting less due process than anita hill got. >> do you think that there's been a rush to judgment before even hearing from these people? >> i think this. there was a rush, and there's been -- the republicans are playing hard ball all the way, quashing at the garland nomination under president obama and then choosing kavanaugh and trying to dump it through. i think that's already caused a
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sense that this thing is rigged. but i do also think that senator grassley deserves a salute for taking mrs. ford's word that she needed more time. he's met many of her demands and been somewhat reasonable. a couple bars here that i think kavanaugh has to pass. there's one bar which is low, and that is can he get the votes out of the senate. senator mcconnell's been talking as if he already has the vote. >> hold your thought because i want to play some sound with senator mcconnell, with lindsey graham who's one of those on this committee who will be questioning christine blasey ford as well. even the vice president. listen to this. >> i believe that judge brett kavanaugh will soon be justice brett kavanaugh and take his seat on the supreme court of the united states of america.
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>> you've watched the fight, you've watched the tactics, but here's what i want to tell you. in the very near future, judge kavanaugh will be on the united states supreme court. [ cheers and applause ] >> what am i supposed to do? go ahead and ruin this guy's life based on an accusation, i don't know when it happened and everybody named in regard to being there saying it didn't happen. >> does it sound like they're open minded or that this is going to have an impact on how they vote? >> i think it says he's going to very likely get a favorable vote and most minds are already made up on the republican side. by the way, a lot of minds are made up on the democratic side
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too. but i think that's why this is a fairly low bar to get over. i think there's a much higher bar in trying to convince the public, especially women, that judge kavanaugh is an honorable man. i think that's a higher bar because women are going to come out of this thing saying this sounds awfully rigged. there's no background investigation and women have seen this pattern of not wanting to come out and go public because you get so hurt by the process. so i think that there are two things that are really important in that high bar. one is whether he goes to the court with an asterisk by his name or a cloud over his head. he would be the second member of the court, both conservatives, who have that cloud over their heads. >> clarence thomas. >> and judgment on roe v. wade.
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new poll out today by nbc and the "wall street journal." men favor kavanaugh by about 4%. but women approve of kavanaugh 25% negative. 58-33, that's before she's even spoken a word or had a chance to appeal to not only the heads, but to the hearts of a lot of women. >> and when she does that, if she comes out and she comes across very credible -- >> yes, >> that takes the story to another level. >> and he probably still gets the vote, but doesn't get past the second bar, and that's very damaging to the court, and i think it would be damaging republicans in the midterm. >> there's still the possibility he withdraws his nomination, there's a possibility that he doesn't get confirmed through the vote. should the white house be talking about a plan b at this point? >> the white house ought to know by now is there truth to what he
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said or is it not true? they shouldn't be betting the store on this, and he should withdraw if he has not told the truth. but my sense is he's dug in and said he feels very slimed by this, treated very unfairly. the president agrees with him. and we've got two sides who each believe different truths. and there's going to be a clash. i imagine we're going to have a hard time coming out of this knowing for sure what happened, and i think kavanaugh will likely clear the low bar, but i think it's much tougher to clear the eye bar. in the court of public opinion, that's where it will when decided. >> and we know how fast the news cycle moves. there are still several days before thursday. ali see. thank you so much, david. good to see you. blue wave or red warning? a new poll suggesting the midterms are starting to swing in favor of democrats. should republicans be worried?
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. 44 days and counting until the midterms. if you believe the polls, the chances of a blue wave are gaining momentum. brand-new nbc news "wall street journal" poll shows more voters want democrats to control congress. 52% compared to 40% for the republicans. joining us now, republican congressman ryan castillo of pennsylvania. good to have you here with us. hoping you can speak honestly, especially since you're not running for re-election. i want to know what your thoughts are. you see those numbers. the gap is growing. you've had a front row seat to all of this. what do you think is causing the growing divide? >> i think trump is unfavorable
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in most competitive districts in the country, so democrats have the wind at their back and the erepublicans have the wind in their face. that creates a dynamic where they're going to have to get out flo, do some differentiation from the president on policy. and i think on rhetoric so that on election day you are getting voters that may view the president unfavorably but are still willing to vote for a republican for congress. >> what do you think they need to do, your party needs to do to avoid a blue wave? >> well, you're going to have to speak out when you disagree with the president. i think it's as much about style as anything else. if you look at the numbers, economically we are doing very, very well, and 7 out of 10 americans give the president some credit in his handling of the economy for where we are. so you have to take the positive policy, but at the same time in time say i don't agree with the
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president. i don't think he should have tweeted that or said that about that person. but you have to do it -- >> but people have done that, jeff flake, bob corker, they're the ones not running for re-election because they didn't think that strategy, it wasn't a winning strategy. >> fair point. those were senate races. if you look at north carolina, missouri, a couple other senate races where republicans are trying to pick up seats. but if you look at the suburb seats, where you see the president at 42% favorability, the real challenge is not going to be for republican candidates% favorability rating. it's really going to be the 36% to 42% favorability rating where a republican is going to have to run ten points ahead of the president. the real challenge, though, is that unlike in past years, the president's on the ballot. i mean, most voters that are going to the polls are saying my vote is going to be driven by my
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feelings of the president for better or worse. >> we've talked to some of those voters and suburban women in particular. we know that's a key voting block. they will be watching what happens this week as the kavanaugh hearings are reopened. i want to ask about kavanaugh and your viewpoint. now we know we're going to hear from christine blasey ford, kavanaugh's accuser. we'll hear from kavanaugh as well. the public will have to decide who they believe. if blasey ford comes across as credible, do you think your senate colleagues should vote to confirm kavanaugh? >> well, i think that that's an assumption without taking into account what mr. kavanaugh may speak to. there are just so many moving parts here. we do know that everyone who the accuser has said was there has said that they either don't remember being there or don't know anything about the accusations that she's made. so so many of us are really
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trying to be very, very careful with what we say and what we don't say. there's a deep frustration among republicans that senate democrats have really turned this into a partisan circus, including the used lawyer who is a fundraiser and who is i don't think negotiated in good faith toward getting a hearing as quickly as possible. i will also say that every one of those folks who doesn't have a recollection has submitted a statement to the senate judiciary committee, which, if they're not being honest, is a crime. so you have to take those people at their word, and i do think to your question, though, how republican senators view the statements of the accused, mr. kavanaugh, and the accuser is really going to be -- >> if she comes across as credible, i'm sure you'll be watching, will you vote to
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confirm her if you had the vote? >> it's difficult to say because i haven't seen what she said. i haven't seen what judge kavanaugh's going to say. so i hesitate saying that. >> so you talked about the process and giving her a fair chance, giving kavanaugh a fair chance to also be heard and to make the decision. your colleague steve king has come out saying that kavanaugh's allegations amount to character assassination. how do you think victims of sexual assault interpret that? >> i think that anyone who has been assaulted should have their voice heard. i also think that if you are accused, you have the right to have your voice heard and that there is a presumption of innocence in this country and that we need to be very careful about drawing conclusions, both guilty or innocent and we need to let it play out.
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so i take exception to anyone who's really jumped the gun and said i believe party a or i believe party b. what makes this even more difficult and it's just the facts, it's 36 years old and no one heard anything about this for quite some time. >> there's character assassination comment we have from steve king, we also have another republican colleague saying this. >> did y'all hear the latest late-breaking news? ruth bader ginsburg came out and was groped by abraham lincoln. >> what's your reaction to congressman ralph nor man's comments? >> he shouldn't have said it, it's not a joking matter. at the same time we have a democratic senator from hawaii saying he's a white male so i'm not going to believe him based on his political philosophy. >> those were his words, not
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hers. >> this is not something to make light of, but it's also not something where we automatically believe one person over another. >> i understand that. do you think that this matters with female voters? >> absolutely, and i think every female voter -- i must also say every male voter, but especially women, and we're in a different time right now. look, a lot of women have experienced things throughout their life that men have never experienced, and i think we need to not only be very delicate and understanding, but we need to be very patient and allow someone who has been wronged or, in this instance, is alleging she's been wronged, to have her voice heard. that is extremely essential to the way we deal with the #metoo movement. today, tomorrow, and for the rest of our lives. >> congressman, thank you for being here. >> nice to be with you. people still trapped in their homes by flood waters, getting some much-needed help
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as the food waters remain dangerously high in the carolinas, some residents are stranded out necessities. kayleigh, fill us in on what is happening there right now. >> reporter: ana, i'm with four military veterans, none of who are from north carolina, but all four of them made the choice to donate their time and resources to helping people. i'm here with swift water, and
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panama, the captain of our boat. the mission we began four yeaho ago was getting medication to a child who needed it. how close are two taking that happen? >> after being on communication with my guys, we just don't have a route by land or water to get to him. i've reached out to the coast guard, talked to a few of the stations. hoping we can get a helicopter so they can make an air drop. >> reporter: the concern after "f" this little boy will get his medication, he will will have to be med evac'd. you're checking every roof we would come to. can you take me back to a couple nights ago as you all were a part of really an incredible rescue effort by the volunteers
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of the cajun navy. [ no audio ] >>, however, when we come up to a stretch of land, we worked our way through the woods, got into the city streets or county road, whichever it was, and we started noticing there were people still in the area. one guy, he had maybe two inches of water inside his mobile home. the other family that was across the street, they -- the father didn't want to go, but eventually we convinced him to leave. now, we also traveled on down and we found a black gentleman and another guy with a kayak. they were actually trucking their way through to get the guy's wallet out of his house. we pulled them out along with four dogs and one cat. >> i heard so many of those stories where not only do you
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rescue people, but sometimes they come back to you and say we need help retrieving belongings from our home, now the phase you are all in is delivering supplies to people who need them most. swift water, i've seen you studying the maps finding this one home in particular in rocky point. what is your biggest concern in the story of this storm? >> my biggest concern is the fact we have more and more stuff coming in now for supplies, medication, food, water, everything. my biggest concern with it is -- that's why i you had it the maps and panama as well, we're trying to find routes in whether by boat, water, air. the problem we keep running into is there's no way into anything unless you have helicopters. we do have access to helicopters through coast guard and a few other sources, and we're starting to see them get used more and more. at this point we hope the water will be coming down, but it's not happening yet. >> reporter: where we are, ana,
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just for context, i'm sitting on a boat that is -- [ no audio ] that's how high the water is currently where we are in north carolina just north of wilmington. >> wow, amazing. i think it cut out what you mentioned exactly where you're sitting versus where they're sitting. kayleigh is on a boat. the cajun navy volunteers are on the roof of a church, the water has risen to the roof. kaylee hartung, thank you. thanks to those volunteers for their braver and courage. new u.s. tariffs set to hit $200 billion worth of chinese goods. china set to retaliate with tariffs of their own. up next we'll take a look from the flip side. cnn takes you to beijing. you're live in the "cnn newsroom." i like your card, but i'm absolutely not paying an annual fee. discover has no annual fees. really? yeah. we just don't believe in them. oh nice. you would not believe how long i've been rehearsing that.
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a trade war between the u.s. and china will ramp up tomorrow when two economic super powers hit each other with their biggest round of tariffs yet. the trump administration will impose new 10% tariffs on $200 billion of chinese goods, roughly half of the goods the country sells to the u.s. the tariffs span thousands of products including food seasoning, baseball gloves, network routers, industrial machinery parts. china has said it will retaliate immediately with new taxes of 5% to 10% on $60 billion of u.s. goods such as meat, chemicals, clothes, and auto parts. matt rivers takes us to beiges for a look at how this escalating trade war is impacting the chinese consumer. >> reporter: if you want to talk to lots of people quickly in beijing, take a scooter. seriously, the traffic here is
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horrible. it might not look great, but it does work. our mission today, to find out how the average person in beijing feels about the u.s./china trade war. we start in one of beijing outdoor workout areas where we spot 77-year-old going strong on the leg press. she says china is strong too. >> translator: we are powerful now and aren't week like in the past. chinese people aren't easily bullied. the u.s. can't handicap china's development. >> on august 10th a paper wrote the u.s. is unwilling to see china develop and prosper and then surpass it. no hardship has ever stopped china from growing rich and becoming strong. the anti-american drum beat in state media is loud and consistent. he doesn't entirely degree. >> translator: we can't generalize them. there are nice american people. it's just their leaders are bad. >> reporter: post-workout it's to the other side of town where the coffee is strong but support
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for the trade war is weak. >> what do you think of the trade war? >> i think it's wrong. it's only about politicians. >> reporter: this movie director says china's policies could hurt ordinary people by hurting the economy overall. in beijing narrow alley ways the trade war can feel pretty far away, but think about it differently. do tariffs make those playing cards more expensive? does the pe troll bill go up. it is a lot to think about, enough to make you hungry. >> can i have one american pulled pork sandwich. american pork is on china's tariff list, i'm still going to eat it because it's good. but still. >> reporter: it's still lunchtime when we go to the business district, the natural habitat of white collar workers. trade war panic, right? >> translator: i didn't feel i'm affected so far. >> reporter: actually it's a common assessment most haven't dealt the crunch yet.
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several people said that. >> translator: i think our country hasn't been affected that much so far. china doesn't really rely on the u.s. >> reporter: but china's economy is already slowing down and the stock markets aren't doing well. >> it definitely has an active impact on chinese economy. >> reporter: so in the end if your question is how do chinese people feel about the trade war, there's no one way to answer that question. how people feel depends on what job they have, their political views, short or long term impact, but what is clear is people are increasingly aware a trade war is on and the trade tensions could last a long time. matt rivers, cnn, beijing. the president prepares to address the world stage. what we can expect from trump this weekend at the united nations. your weekend presidential brief is next. you're live in the "cnn
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syncreti it is a big week for president trump on the international stage as he attends the united nations generally assembly here in new york. the president has a jam-packed schedule, bilateral meetings a speech to the whole assembly, a meeting of the u.n. security council where he'll serve as chairman. that brings us to your weekend presidential brief, a segment we bring you every sunday night highlighting the most pressing information the president will need when he wakes up tomorrow. joining us is national security analyst sam vin grad. she spent two years in the obama
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administration helping to prep for the president's daily brief. sam, you have traveled to the general assembly twice. what can we expect? >> ana, unga is like speed dating. you see a lot of people and if you don't know exactly what you want going in, you're going to miss out because everybody has an agenda, and they're watching you so closely. you can't sneeze without a foreign official taking notes. and we have a sense of what president trump's agenda may be based on past history. we know, for example, that he has consistentlily shamed the body of the u.n., called them weak and incompetent. so we may see more of that. we also know that he's really focused on getting other countries to pay more. he said that we pay a disproportionate share of the u.n.'s budget, so he may bring this up again and he'll pursue his new squad's goals. president moon of south korea, president trump, and kim jong-un are so aligned when trying to normalize kim jong-un on the
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world stage rather than pointing to kim's ongoing violations of international law. >> tons of countries there. as you talk about it, it's like speed dating, there's so much going on. how does the president best utilize his time? what should he be doing? >> we know the president really likes his down time, and that's really sparse at unga. i remember so many all-nighters at the waldorf because the work never stops. you're working around the clock and president trump has so much seemingly on his schedule, as you mentioned before, a speech, a circuit court council session, bilateral meetings which we hope he'll bring a note taker to this time. president xi of china, president putin are russia aren't coming. and kim jong-un is also not coming to new york just yet. but kim also probably won't make an appearance this year on president trump's bad boys roster. he was a key player last year. instead i think we'll see the president devote a lot of his ire toward the iranians and the palestinians. >> let's talk about the
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iranians. there was an attack in iran just this weekend, the regime blaming the gulf powers and the u.s. he worked on iran policy. what do you think is iran's strategy hasn't changed. they play the victim. they like to blame everything that happens in iran on us. in 2009 when i started at the white house, they blamed obama and the cia for inciting violent protests when in fact it was their fault. so we should expect that to continue, this playing the victim, but there will be a lot of tensions and probably a war of words when president trump hosts the security council session on wednesday. the iranians will probably respond, and one thing is clear, president trump will have a double standard problem on wednesday. he will talk about everything that iran does that's wrong until he's blue in the face and not mention the fact that north korea has more nuclear weapons than iran ever had and continues to amass chemical and biological weapons as well. >> thank you so much. sam vinograd, we know it will be a busy week for you.
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>> yes. >> good luck. >> thank you. >> get some rest when you can. it will be over fast, and we'll talk to you again next weekend, and we'll have much more to talk about. thanks, tomorrow morning, comedian bill cosby will hearn h -- will learn his fate after being convicted of sexual assault. the possible outcomes next in the "cnn newsroom." and minerals in powerful combinations. for radiant coats, sparkling eyes, and vibrant energy. purina one. 28 days. one visibly healthy pet.
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three counts of aggravated indecent assault. cosby was convicted in april of drugging and molesting a former temple university athletics administrator. joining us now to discuss, cnn legal analyst and civil rights attorney areva martin. cosby, he could be sentenced to anything from probation to 30 years in prison. which way do you see it going? >> well, ana, this is a very good question. we've not been able to see the pre-sentencing reports that have been filed by either the prosecutor or the defense team, but we know that this judge, the judge is going to be sitting tomorrow in the sentencing hearing, has a history of being pretty harsh on defendants like bill cosby, although there isn't data on a case that's exactly the same. there was a lawyer who was convictedch raining one of his clients who he had drugged, and that lawyer received some pretty serious jail time from this judge, anywhere from 10 to 20 years in prison, so we know that these types of cases are taken
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very seriously in pennsylvania and that this jim has not been shy about giving out substantial jail time for similar cases. >> there's expected to be debate over whether he should be branded a sexually violent predator. what strategy could the defense team use to try to prevent that from happening? >> yeah. we know the defense team is very, very concerned about that designation for lots of reasons, not only does it carry with it lifetime counseling but also community alerts, and we have to keep in mind that cosby still faces a plethora of civil defamation cases around the country. if this judge dream he's a violent sexual predator, that's a legal finding that can be used in these defamation suits and could be detrimental to his defense in those cases, so the cosby team is fighting really hard against this designation. they are challenging the law, the pennsylvania law that allows for this kind of designation. they have argued that it's unconstitutional, and we can expect that this will play itself out not just at the trial
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level but all the way to the highest appeals court in pennsylvania. >> and his attorneys have said they plan to appeal, regardless of which way this sentencing hearing goes. do you think given cosby's age he'll be allowed to stay out of jail while that happens? >> we, know, ana, that's going to be one of the mitigating factors that the cosby teams brings tomorrow to the sentencing hearing. they will talk about his age and failing health. they have been saying all along that he's legally blind. we should also expect them to talk about the substantial philanthropic work that he's been involved in and all the charities that he's supported and the good work that he's done in communities throughout the country, but we know that age isn't a determining factor in terms of whether someone has to serve jail time for particularly the serious crimes of which cosby was convicted of, and when you look at the data in pennsylvania, there are people in jail right now in prison who are cosby's age and older, so age is just one factor. i don't think it's going to be
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the determining factor for this judge. >> of course, cosby hasn't shown any resource. he hasn't offered any sort of apology to the victims. his wife has even complained that the judge is biased against her husband. areva, could those factors hurt him? >> yeah. that's not good, ana. excellent point, you know. in a sentencing hearing, what you typically will see is a death of come forward and show some remorse. make a public apology and talk about how sorry they are for the harm that they have caused the victim. we should expect to see a very emotional and powerful impact victim's statement from miss constand. if cosby doesn't take the stand, if he doesn't state, you know, pubically that he is sorry, that he is remorseful, i think that's going to play very negativity as it relates to the jumping and how he decides his fate. >> all right. arif ark martin, thank you so much for laying it all out there for us. appreciate if. >> thank you, ana.
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top of the hour. i'm ana cabrera in new york. you're live in the "cnn newsroom." thanks for being with us. right now we have more details about this week's open hearing when the woman who says supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh sexually assaulted her will tell her story on the hill. christine blasey ford will go first and kavanaugh will give a chance to respond. it's scheduled to happen on thursday starting at 10:00 in the morning before the senate judiciary committee. as for who will be steering the conversation works will ask the questions, that and a few other things are still up in the air. cnn's jessica snider is following developments in washington, an boris sanchez is outside trump tower here in new york where the president is staying the night. jessica, tell us more about what is going to happen on thursday. what still has to be worked out? >> reporter: yeah, ana, the broad parameters of all of this is set. thursday at 10:00 a.m., but really there are

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