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tv   Anderson Cooper 360  CNN  October 29, 2018 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT

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many broadcasts tonight began by telling you the name of a murdererer who killed 11 people in the synagogue behind me. they may show you his pictures and repeat his name so much that it will become as well known as other mass murderers whose names you probably remember. we hope history does not remember this killer's name and we won't be saying it or showing you his photo in the hour ahead. instead we want to take a few moments on those who really matter, on the 11 people who lived good and decent lives, loved by family, friends and leave behind them broken hearts and happy memories. daniel stein was killed saturday. he was retired and according to his son didn't require much.
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his son said he was a simple man. his nephew said he had a dry sense of humor. and he was deeply loved and will be deeply missed. daniel stein, we will remember. joyce fienberg was a former researcher at the university of pittsburgh, who treated her phd students like family, we're told. her late husband taught at cmu just down the road from tree of life. those who knew her say she had a huge personality that lit up the room. joyce fienberg, let us remember. let us also remember richard gottfried, he was 65 and had a dental practice with his wife. he was jewish, she was catholic. they counseled other interfaith couples at her church about what to expect. bernice and sylvan simon were married at tree of life 62 years ago. imagine that. sylvan simon was a retired accountant. bernice was a nurse. devoting time to charitable work, charitable causes. they were always ready to help said a neighbor and always with
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a big smile. bernice and sylvan simon died as they lived, together. we will remember them. jerry rabinowitz has treated all kinds of patients with kindness and compassion, particularly those with hiv/aids, at a time when fear of the virus was running high. a patient wrote, he often held our hands without rubber gloves and always, always hugged us as we left his office. another called him the sort of doctor who sent you on your way always in better respects. melvin wax's sister says she always used to kid him that he should have been a rabbi. instead he was a dedicated congregant. he would always be the first to
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arrive, she said, always in a good mood, always full of jokes. melvin wax, we will remember. irving younger was a greeter. his friend said he was the kind of guy who walked down a street and say hi to everyone he saw. it served him well to one local cafe where he liked to go. irving younger, we will remember. david and cecil rosenthal were called tree of life ambassadors because they were always there. both had special needs, both were inseparable. calling cecil the kindest soul you would ever meet. it served him well at one local
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a cantor at a nearby temple told cecil the kindest soul you would ever meet. another says his laughter was infectious and david was so kind. the two, he said, looked out for one another and in return, their community treasured them. david and cecil rosenthal, brothers in life and in death. we will remember. and last, but certainly not least in anyone's thoughts tonight is rose mallinger. she was 97 years old and lived her whole life in this state. i visited her daughter, andrea, earlier today. she was wounded and is recovering in the hospital, surrounded by family and friends who smiled and laughed and shed tears when they talked about rose. bubby as she was known in her family. she lived for her children and her grandchildren. she was, they said, a pillar of the community, vibrant, full of life. moments ago her family gave this statement. family was everything. she knew her children, grandchild and great grandchildren better than they knew themselves. we will miss her presence and her company greatly. rose, we will remember. so many people to remember. a writer on this program who grew up just four blocks from
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here knew many of those names. he wets to bar mitzvahs at tree of life and scout troop meetings as well. he remembered what it was like to be a kid in pittsburgh's jewish community. he said it was hard to believe that the whole rest of the world wasn't jewish too, when you're growing up here, wasn't happy as well. squirrel hill was then and is now a special part of this city and this country. not just because of its jewish population. you walk three blocks from here and you'll come to the local jcc, which is right across the street from the sixth presbyterian church whose members swung into action after the shooting here. squirrel hill is home to members of every major faith. home to medical professionals to rushed to the scene to treat the wounded or received them at nearby hospitals. home two blocks from here where officers risked their lives to save others, some were wounded.
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it was home just a minute from here to fred rogers, mr. rogers who said at times like these we should look for the helpers. this literally is mr. rogers neighborhood as the mayor said to me. squirrel hill is a neighborhood of helpers. tree of life was and is will be a congregation of helpers. a lone gunman decided the worshippers inside were his enemy. a husband and wife married in 1956 and still in love were his enemy. a doctor who reached out to hiv patients when others reached away was his enemy. it's obvious to think why someone would think like this, why someone would kill like this? but there is no answer to that question that would truly make sense or make the hurt go away. and tonight the alleged killer made his first court appearance. we will be taking a close look at what may have motivated him and we'll do the same as awell
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for the alleged serial bomber who also was in court today even as another one of his package bombs showed up in atlanta, the third package sent to cnn. he is jewish and a frequent target of the far right including some members of congress. arizona republicans suggesting that soros was behind the violence in charlottesville. >> and look at the background. george soros is one of those people that actually helps back those individuals who is he? i think he's from hungary, i think he was jewish and i think he turned in his own people to the nazis. >> well keeping them honest that last bit, of course, is a lie. a lie and a slur. more recently things took on a new dimension took on building a different conspiracy around soros, one linking him to the
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migrant caravan. here's a tweet from republican congressman matt gates. photos giving cash. soros, question mark. let's investigate the source. there's no evidence to support that insinuation, yet a day later at a rally in montana the president seemed to pick up on it. >> the one thing they stick together, but they wanted that caravan. and there are those that say that caravan didn't just happen -- it didn't just happen. a lot of reasons that caravan, 4,000 people. >> a few days later, george soros got a pipe bomb in the mail. after calling for national unity, the president was chuckling along with calls to lock soros up. >> they're called globalists. they like the globe.
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i like to globe, too, but we have to take care of our people. we have to. globalists. >> the word globalist might not mean anything special to you. perhaps it doesn't either to the president. however, to white supremacists and anti-semites the word means jew and has for many years. presidents have known this, which is why they don't say things like this. it clearly meant something to the alleged synagogue shooter, who actually attacked president trump for being, in his view, secret globalist sympathizer, on the social media site gab writing trump is a globalist not a nationalist. he went on to rail against jews the world infestation. it showed an obsession with george soros, with hias and hatred for the immigrant caravan. whether the president knew what he was saying, the alleged gunman heard something that resonated. and this came on top of other statements from the president
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and that migrant caravan. >> and the democrats want to invite caravan after caravan of illegal aliens into our country, and they want to sign them up for free health care, free welfare, free education and for the right to vote. they want to sign them for the right to vote. what's that all about? >> that was friday. the president describing a group of people, 1,000 miles away from the nearest u.s. port of entry and several thousand miles from pittsburgh. a threat to no one, but to the alleged gunman it was apparently all too much. his last post reads i can't sit by and watch my people get slaughtered.
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screw your optics, i'm going in. with the country struggling to cope, the president called for unity. he also attacked the press and weighed in again on the caravan. we hear all the time from the president's supporters to take him seriously but not literally. maybe for rational, reasonable people who aren't anti-semitic and believe in conspiracy theories that's good advice. perhaps it's better if we all dial back the heat on the left and the right, to not call as former attorney general eric holder did to kick them when they're down, to not harass opponents in restaurants. it's true, there is never enough civility to go around. he was not filling the air waves with heated rhetoric, violent imagery and conspiracy theories. the president may chafe at not being able to say anything that pops into his head. what he should know people are listening and worse, some are acting on what they hear. joining us now is the tree of
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life rabbi and the mayor of pittsburgh. r rabbi, you are preparing the funeral, one of several. what are you thinking about saying, what's going through your head and heart tonight? >> it's not a day to show anger. it's not a day to show bitterness. it's a day to celebrate the lives of two wonderful decent human beings and for gratitude that they were in our lives. and that's what this and all the funerals will be about. >> tomorrow it's the brothers who -- i mean, everybody talks about them as being -- i mean, everybody seems to have known them here. >> they were the sweetest most wonderful people you could know. not an ounce of hate in them whatsoever. and, you know, if you just sit and wonder why this could happen, we're not going to find the answers. we need to just turn to what was
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good about them and be able to say with gratitude, we're so glad they were in our lives at all. >> mayor, how are you dealing with this as leader of the community? >> as best we can. we have priorities that we happen to be able to take care of. the first is to the families of the victims. we start with the funerals tomorrow and continue all the way through friday. making sure that the families have everything that they need. we extend that out to those that have been wounded, trying to get them out of the hospitals by the end of this week, making sure their families have everything they need. it's the way we do things in pittsburgh. we take care of one another. and then we look at the jewish community itself, and we looked at ways to be able to show not only support but to build bonds that will last long after this. and we think ahead about how we can take something so horrific and find goodness, and use those
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few little rays of light to be able to create something here in pittsburgh that will help to eradicate hate, that will stop the use of terms of hatred and bigotry in the public discourse on a daily basis and put it back into the basement where it belongs. >> do you have any doubt that -- that some rhetoric that has been used over the last -- that has entered public life in a way we haven't seen in quite a while, that that has had an impact? >> words matter. if you take a drop of dye and put it into a glass of water, it turns the color of the water. if you put words of hate into a place where those words had been hidden and recognized as words that were not acceptable and you allow that to become acceptable then you allow the next steps to
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occur. the next steps where there's violence against people walking down the street. the next steps where there's graffiti being written on walls. the next steps where somebody enters into a place that is so sacred where people go to find sanctuary and peace with god and somebody feels that is the way that they will express their hatred, with murder. yes, words matter. >> rabbi, i don't want to make you relive what happened saturday morning, but how quickly did you realize something terrible was happening? >> i'd never heard live gunfire in my life before. initially, within the first few minutes of our service starting, there was a crash and i thought it was one of our metal coat racks in the lobby had fallen, that perhaps somebody had fallen and grabbed onto it and yanked it down. and i would say in the next ten
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seconds the next volley came, again rapid succession. and while i didn't have any experience in it, there was a gut extinct that told me this is not something good, this is semiautomatic fire. and i knew this was a serious situation. >> and did you see -- you saw this person? >> never. i never saw the person. i made it out of the sanctuary before. i immediately told the congregation to drop on the floor, do not utter a sound and don't move. we have heavy wooden pews, 3 inches thick oak. thought it could provide some modicum of protection. the several near the front, i quickly escorted them up the stairs, out through one of the back doors of the sanctuary, into one of the labyrinth of our buildings, find an exit door, find a closet, if you find a closet stay in it until the police come get you.
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and then turned to see about the eight people in the rear of the sanctuary, and i heard at that moment the gunfire, the volume was increasing. and i knew that if i would move forward another 150 feet towards the rear of the sanctuary, that there was nothing i could do at that point because it was just too dangerous a situation. so i left the sanctuary. one of those people you visited today, she survived. the other 7 were slaughtered in my sanctuary, and i live with that for the rest of my life because, well, i know i couldn't have done something. i still wonder, gee, could i have done something. >> you called 911? >> yeah, the minute i got through there i called 911 and was on the phone with them for 20 minutes as i sought shelter for myself. the exit i envisioned i knew was not an exit because of the proximity of the shooter. >> as a person of faith, how does one face this? i mean, how does one make sense
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of it? as a person of faith, what is it -- i don't know. >> my faith, my deep faith tells me it wasn't some divine plan with god in the control room pushing buttons saying i'm going to send a shooter into tree of life and slaughter all of these people, that god's the one i turn to at moments like this to say give me strength, give me inspiration to help lead my flock through this difficult time. >> mayor, i think you said something to "the washington post" that the president, he shouldn't visit while burials are still taking place. the president and his wife are planning on coming tomorrow. if you spoke to them, do you have a message to them? >> well, we did try to get the message out to the white house that our priority tomorrow is the first funeral, that we'll be using public resources in order to be able to have adequate
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public safety at the site to be able to use public safety for the procession and also to be able to make sure that we'll still be at our schools, our synagogues, the jck and other large jewish institutions. having that i do believe that it would be best to put the attention on the families this week. and if he were to visit, choose a different time to be able to do it. our focus is the city, it will be on the families and the outreach they'll need this week and the support they need to get through it. once we get past that, then i think there's the opportunity for presidential visits. >> rabbi, i spoke with -- as i said i spoke with rose's family in the hospital tonight. and what an extraordinary family they are. just they had so many stories about her. 97 years old.
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she'd attended this synagogue for i believe it was 60 years, she said. she was married for 50 years. she just sounds like an incredible pillar of this community. >> she was. and we had this really wonderful thing partway through the service, and in many faith services there are responsive readings in english. it was one that was hers which she owned. and when we get to that part of the service i would look at rose and smile and she would lead. and the ironic thing is the responsive leading she led was the perfect piece. >> do you know how it goes? i don't want to put you on the spot. >> off the top of my head in enlie english -- after these past few days, i don't remember.
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>> mr. mayor, thank youo much. i'm so sorry it's under these circumstances. >> we'll get through. >> it's a strong community. coming up next the ceo of hias on what his group really does and what it's done for decades to help americans become americans. and people who save lives in the crucial moments after the shooting, more from pittsburgh. we'll be right back.
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witnessed in the short time we have witnessed today. shorty he left a road map to the hatred on the social media website where he posted time and again. our senior investigative correspondent drew griffon has that for us tonight. >> reporter: just before authorities say he entered this synagogue to kill 11 jews the killer posted his intentions online. where was that? on a social media site you've most likely never heard of, but it turns out has become an online home for those who love to hate. >> what you find is just an absolute cesspool of the most vile commentary you can find. extreme misogyny, anti-semitism, racism. >> reporter: gab is currently not operating. an online statement says the company has spent the past 48
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hours proudly working with the doj and fbi to bring justice to an alleged terrorist. until now the site has put few restricts on its users. according to the site itself gab's mission is very simple, defend free speech and individual liberty for all people. on saturday evening after the shooting gab users were calling the shooter a hero. on its website gab says it's the alleged shooter who holds sole responsibility for his actionsch when cnn tried to get more information on the suspect's profile gab tweeted you have our statement, deal with it. surn poverty law center says it's no surprise to anyone the shooter's online home was gab. >> it was the first place we looked actually. >> reporter: the suspect posted on the infestation of jews and promoted a conspiracy theory that it is jews helping
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transport migrants from the migrant caravans from central america. repeatedly calling the migrants invaders using language commented on fox news and right wing media. he linked the hias organization, and hias likes to bring in invaders that kill our people, he posted on saturday morning when he wrote i'm going in. he was going into a synagogue that hosted a hias service just a week before. drew griffon, cnn, atlanta. >> and mark hedfield is with me now. thanks for being with us. obviously sorry it's under these circumstances. when you first heard of what this person did and his obsession with your organization, were you -- were you surprised or is this kind of a common trope among anti-semites and these kind of people? >> well, both. this is common trope.
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and there are websites that dedicate an awful lot of space to hias, to how much they hate what we do, how much they hate refugees. some also hate jews. some are massacre aiding as kind of issue oriented sides, but they're really hate sites. so we're kind of accustomed to this, but obviously it's never ended like this before. >> explain what your organization actually does. >> hias is actually the oldest refugee agency in the world. we were started at the end of the 19th century to help jews who were fleeing in russia. and we were bringing them to the united states, helping them get past the immigration authorities and get setup in a new life. and we've made a transformation over our history from being an organization that helps refugees because they are jewish to one that helps refugees because we are jewish. we do it out of jewish values, out of a sense of history and obligation. because we know that the american jewish community owes
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its very existence to those times when america opened its doors to refugees. >> so you help people, refugees from all over the world who are resetting in the united states, all who have been vetted and cleared to come here, and you help them adjust to daily life? >> right, half of our work is overseas, but the other half is here in the united states, resettling them around the country including here in pittsburgh where we work with the jewish family and community services of pittsburgh. >> when you hear the kind of rhetoric of invaders, about this obsession about this caravan, does it make any sense to you? >> it makes no sense to me. and we haven't gotten used to it even though we've been hearing an awful lot of this. i mean ever since the paris attacks of november of 2015 when 31 governors said their states were going to be off-limits to syrian muslims as a result of those attacks never mind no
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syrian refugees actually were implicated in those attacks, that's when this hate speech really started to escalate to levels i've never seen in my career and never thought i would see in my lifetime. >> this person who is alleged to have committed these murders was basically saying you're resettling people who are coming to the united states to kill people, to, you know, be terrorists. i mean, that's absurd. >> i mean, refugees are fleeing terror. they come here because they need sanctuary. just like people go to synagogue to be in sanctuary. that's what we do is provide people a sanctuary from terror. so to say these people are bringing terror to this country, it's beyond absurd. it's not backed up by anything. >> does this make you fearful or make you want to stop your work? >> no, it definitely doesn't make me want to stop our work. we've seen this before, i mean not in my lifetime. but there have been many times when refugees have been conflated with the terror
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they're fleeing from. it's one of the reasons jews were kept out in the 1930s. so we know this makes it even more important for us to do our work. >> the same was said of jews, of irish, of italians, officially of every refugee group that has come to the united states at a time of memorial. >> right, it goes to a fear and we have to deal with that fear, but it's not a rational fear. >> thanks for being with us. coming up, as we reported the president is continuing to blame the media for the violence and anger in this country. again using the phrase enemy of the people today. today he actually said that. we tried to get answers from the white house about which members of the free press are actually in his opinion the enemies of the people. we'll show you how that went next. metastatic breast cancer is relentless,
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well, as we reported at the beginning of the program after days of pipe bombs sent to people the president had attacked on the horror that plays out here in pittsburgh over the weekends, the president continues to complain it's actually the free press that should change its ways. in a tweet this morning the president said part of what's causing great anger in the country the the fake news mead you, which he again called and i quote the true enemy of the people. at the white house today cnn's jim acosta asked sarah sanders for clarification. >> shouldn't you reserve the term enemy for people who are
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actually the enemy of the united states rather than journalists? >> the president's not referencing all media. he's talking about the growing amount of fake news that exists in the country, and the president's calling that out. m >> may i ask a follow up please? sense you mentioned that the president said this morning the fake news media, the enemy of the people must stop -- can you state for the record which outlets that you and the president regard as the enemy of the people? >> i'm not going to walk through a list, but i think those individuals probably know who they are. >> and jim acosta joins us. now, why wouldn't she walk through a list? if the president of the united states is declaring people and organizations enemies of the people and she's backing that up, i don't understand why they wouldn't get specific?
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>> that is the question, anderson. and we gave her ample opportunities to do that. the president has had all day long to do that. he apparently is still struggling this evening in terms of putting that out there. my sense of it, anderson, is that they just want to lash out. that might have been part of the reason we were brought into this briefing today. they wanted to get back into their mid-term game plan which is to talk about the press and the caravan, and they were able to do some of that today. but anderson, we do know they're deeply frustrated over how much the president took heat in this last week or so over his rhetoric in response to what happened with the pipe balombs d what happened in pittsburgh. they're highly frustrated over there and i think we saw some of that vented today. >> it is amazing when you look at who the president has verbally attacked and who this
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pipe bomber sent devices to or tweeted about. i mean the president goes after phil mudd, a former fbi and cia official and days later this pipe bomber is tweeting about phil mudd. it's very clear where this person got names and ideas from. whether it's jim clapper or cnn or john brennen, the fact that the white house or the president doesn't take a moment of reflection is still surprising to me. >> it really is, anderson. and when you talk to people close to the president, sources close to the white house they say this fits into his make no apologies, take no prisoners style. this president is never going to admit that he shouldn't say that the press isn't the enemy of the people because it goes against what is political strategy for him, and that is to demonize opponents. i talked to a top republican
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aide up on capitol hill who said most folks up there are resigned to the fact the president is going to keep on doing this. and it makes you wonder, anderson, what exactly is going to make the president stop engaging in this rhetoric. at this point what we've seen so far apparently is not sufficient for the president. anderson? >> jim, thanks very much. former new york city michael bloomberg also scrutinizing the president's response. >> the president's words matter more than anyone else. and his job is to be a unifier. not to be a leader of a party but to this country. there are consequences to words. >> joining me now is new york times correspondent and maggie this story today from the president calling the quote fake
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news media, the true enemy of the people. i mean there's some people who said maybe he doesn't understand the impact or the fact that, you know, it hasn't dawned on him that he's president of the united states, he's not just, you know, the kind of flashy real estate developer anymore. but you say i mean this is clearly a deliberate strategy on his part. >> first of all, we're two years into his presidency. i think he gets it at this point. he's no longer just a real estate developer, number one. number two, he is smarter than all these people like to tell themselves and are aware of what it is he's doing. and that includes his own aides sometimes who want to be able to explain why it's not really that bad that he's saying this. look, it is totally fair to issue with coverage. every president has. no president in the u.s. has done what he is doing which is single out political enemies, lump them in with the media, and then after a clearly sick individual allegedly sends, you
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know, pipe bombs to many of those individuals and in news outlet persistently talk about three of them and resume with this enemy of the people stuff. and it is dangerous from the president. he does this thing where he continues to act as if he's one guy in a crowd, just sort of watching everything play out. his words do have much greater weight than anyone else's in this country just by dint of his office. >> and i think i don't know if it was you who tweeted this, and i don't want to misrepresent what you said, but it's not as if he's a guy in a bar yelling at a tv anymore. >> right, i didn't say something like that, but it's the same kind of idea. >> then i did. >> it's not just he doesn't
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drink, he's not an average social media poster, and he continues to be both the story and the color commentator. and as president he is part of the story but, you know, the rest of the story is also the country and what is taking place in the country. and most other presidents if there had been two incidents of domestic terrorism on their watch they would be dialing back their rhetoric. this president gave a very forceful denunciation of anti-semitism, but it was a political rally and he veered back into his stuff of criticizing maxine waters who had received a pipe bomb. >> and david ud, wanting to continue to focus on this caravan when clearly that was an issue that was foremost on the mind of this shooter here in pittsburgh. >> and that's what's so concerning. i mean, if you look at the president's rehetoric, he's labeling people enemies, making it clear there are people dangers to the country.
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and he's saying to his supporters and other nationalists, since he uses that term, people who have a sense of national consciousness, which is what nationalism means, oftentimes feeling superior to other nations, other people of the world. he's saying to them time and time again be very worried because those brown people coming from the south are going to invade the countries. he's called them vermin before, talked about infestation before. these were the kind of phraseology used against jews by way in nazi germany and elsewhere in europe. he talks about leagues going to ivy league schools being a danger. and of course when he talks about globalists he's referring whether he knows it or not or intends to or not, he's using language that white supremacists use to describe jews. a jewish power structure around the world. so he's feeding this paranoia.
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and instead of tampering it down, instead of cooling it, he's doubling down. saying tonight on an interview on fox that he defends the nationalist label, that he thinks that's an appropriate thing for a president to say, to stand up for america. so everywhere you look whether it's taking on lebron james or other african-american athletes, his suggestion to his supporters is your way of life is under attack from people who don't look like you. and that's what we're seeing time and time again. and even under these circumstances he won't dial it back. >> it's interesting, maggie, because repeatedly the white house and also the president in the past has used the fact that ivanka trump is jewish and jared kushner is jewish as i don't know if it's fair to say it's cover, but it's certainly they have made mention of that up front to kind of indicate, well, certainly he's not, you know, in any way saying anything against jewish people. >> look, i don't know whether the president's anti-semite or
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not. i don't know what's in his heart. i know he has said very forceful things against semptism and he's also said things that are dog whistles. whatever his daughter and son-in-law have to do with it it's not impacting what he then goes out and says in terms of taking away the negatives. >> and anderson, can i make another point? there's a tendency to think about jews as we often think about other groups is monolithic in their thinking. a lot of the president pr's supporters say who's better for jerusalem, to be strongly pro-israel certainly matters to a lot around the world. but to be someone who vilifies immigrants when the bible tells
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us we should love the strangers as we love ourselves that's a deeply american value not just a religious value. that matters to jews as well. >> thanks very much. one of the bombs sent last week was addressed to billion-air democratic donor tom steyer. on cnn's "state of the union" over the weekend steyer said he blames the president for creating the atmosphere that exists in what he call corruption and lawlessness. the interview by jake tapper, he comes off as a crazed and stumbling lunatic who should be running out of money pretty soon. i spoke with tom steyer a short time ago for reaction. mr. steyer, first of all, i want to get your reaction to the president's tweet about you yesterday. a day after the pittsburgh shooting and two days after a pipe bomb was mailed to you saying that you come off as a
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quote, crazed and stumbling lunatic. >> well, anderson, my opinion about that tweet really had nothing to do with me. it was really a reflection, i thought, of the president not doing his duty as president. that in fact he was trying to make a political statement in response to my criticism of him that morning on cnn. and his response was political. whereas in fact what i believe he should have been doing, what he should have been concentrating on, what his job is to protect the american people and to explain to the american people why we're in this crisis and how we're going to get out of it. and he didn't pay any attention to his real jock. he was too involved with himself and too involved with his political machinations to do the right thing. >> do you blame the president's rhetoric at least in part for the massacre here in pittsburgh, the attempted bombings?
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>> well, i know, anderson, there has been a lot of talk about his violent rhetoric, his calls for lock her up, and cnn sucks and his divisive attitudes towards different people in american society. but i honestly believe it's much broader than that. i believe that this president is lawless. i believe he's corrupt. i believe he's criminal. and i believe that his behavior and the behavior of the republican party in terms of their attitudes towards our democracy and their disrespect for democratic norms and trying to prevent people from voting, that their behavior has ushered in an atmosphere of lawlessness and has given permission to people who feel as if there are no constraints anymore on decency and what is acceptable behavior. >> you know, sarah sanders mentioned the congressional baseball shooting that occurred last year. a bernie sanders supporter
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opened fire, gravely wounding steve scalise, of course. bernie sanders didn't have a list of people he vilified or mocked. but should the we've heard maxine waters and others have said. >> anderson, what happened to congressman scalise is absolutely terrible. the person who did it was 100% wrong. i can't imagine a democratic elected official doing anything but saying he was wrong and that anyone who thinks about doing that is wrong. and i think that's the difference. i'm waiting for the president to come out and say that the people who are dealing in this kind of action are 100% wrong, that he
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doesn't want them to support him, that he is looking for fairness and equity they are try to go buy the midterm elections for democrats. the tweet was deleted this next day. they said last week that he condemns violence or any acts of attempted violence. there are some who point out how that you are jewish. how do you view that tweet? >> it had to be considered an antisemi-mittic tweet. i think there's a reason he tok it down. he was obviously embarrassed. he was ashamed of it. he should be ashamed of it. >> tom steyer i appreciate your
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time. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> >> we'll talk to the first responders that respond today the shooting. we'll be right back. 's great. mm-hmm. yeah, and when you move in, geico could help you save on renters' insurance! man 1: (behind wall) yep, geico helped me with renters insurance, too! um... the walls seem a bit thin... man 2: (behind wall) they are! and craig practices the accordion every night! says the guy who sings karaoke by himself. i'm a very shy singer. you're tone deaf! ehh... should we move on to the next one? it's a great building! you'll love it here! we have mixers every thursday. geico®. it's easy to switch and save on homeowners and renters insurance.
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"proposition 11 is a vote to protect patient safety." it ensures the closest ambulance remains on-call during paid breaks "so that they can respond immediately when needed." vote yes on 11. well, friends and strangers helping one another here. volunteers lined up at the arena where the pittsburgh penguins played to donate blood. donors were told the wait would be two hours. the lines so long the wait was longer. no one complained and people wanted to do their part.
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joining me now is the assistant medical director and mark, division chief, did i pronounce your name correctly? >> yes. >> i understand you live near by. you actually heard a commotion. >> unfortunately we are prepared to respond with our physicians and ems normally but i heard it firsthand. i woke up with what i thought was gunshots. or thought was construction. and realized it was autoic weapon fire. >> i heard yelling that was very unfamiliar and i immediately try today jump into action and call into dispatch on the radio. cell phone whoever i could. next thing i knew i thought there was a safe jump. i put my boots on, went outside and saw my colleagues taking formation in all of our yards. >> and you were already there? >> yeah. i was actually on the road.
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i had to work at the game that day. i heard the call. we responded there. i met the supervisor on scene. we formed up a group. a rescue task force. a group of police and paramedics and moved. >> we understand he tried to join in. >> yeah. i didn't know he lived here. he wanted to come with us but he didn't have any ballistic protection. >> yeah. you were willing to go in without protection i work very comfortable with each other. our safety is first. the safety of our team members so i was able to establish command just down the block where our command structure staging area was and figure out where we'll put the ambulances and what's going to happen. >> what was it like at the scene? >> we have been doing a lot of training on this the last two years. it was chaotic. i mean we formed up. i took a lot of younger paramedics.
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they jumped right in. linked up with the police. we have a very good working relationship with them. we started moving to where we thought were casualties. >> you had to treat police officers? >> yeah. we were the first ones in and started finding the deceased. we found a couple of live victims. they treated and extracked from the building. they worked their way to the third floor. when s.w.a.t. came under fire and had a couple of casualties we moved in and they handed off the patients to us. we started treating and working on evacuating them. >> you also end up. in this case. treating the shooter as well. >> after he surrendered it was a little harder for some of our other guys. legally we have to provide the same standard of care as we do anybody else. >> what do you want people to know about what happened here? >> we are very strong peaceful diverse community here.
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the biggest thing is when something happens we are ready to respond. we have physicians. we have medical professionals, paramedics that are highly trained. it is a shame we would have to use this any where in our country let alone our town or neighborhood. >> it seems if the intention of the kill ere was two divide people. it had the opposite impact. >> people from across the country and calling us up and providing us support i think everyone formed a pretty tight bond around us. >> it must be decent to see so to donate blood. many wanting to do what they can. >> if there's a medical problem. any emergency. whether it is trauma, medical, help your civilian friend. help your neighbor. we can only get help fast enough
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and something bad is going to happen if you don't do something. start cpr, donate blood, stop the turnicate. stop the bleed. we need each others help. >> thank you. the news continues. i want to hand it over to chris cuomo. cuomo prime time starts right now. >> all right. thank you. welcome to "prime time". pittsburgh in 2018. i could never imagine it kwould mark the largest targeting people on american soil ever. 11 people slaughtered because they were jewish in america in this day and age. jews, blacks, media, migrants, three of these groups have been target of domestic terror in the last week. all are cast as others in our current toxic politics. it is done in a way for those