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jobs report out this morning, and really some solid news on wages. hope you all have wonderful weekends. don't move a muscle. you want to watch "the lead." i'm brooke baldwin. thanks for being with me. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. you'll never guess who president trump blames for the violence erupting in the u.s. "the lead" starts right now. breaking news. the man who may know more about president trump than anyone else. his former fixer, michael cohen. this afternoon, claiming that president trump used awful racist language on a number of occasions. but can we believe michael cohen with such an axe to grind? president trump with what seemed kind of like a walk-back now denying he ever said troops should shoot migrants at the border if they throw rocks at them. of course, he did say it. plus, it's just wrong!
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literally wrong. wrong morally and wrong factually. and we're going to go into the details of that racially charged ad that president trump puts at the top of his twitter feed and how it solo blames the democrats for the presence of a cop killer in the u.s. what are the facts? this is cnn breaking news. >> welcome to "the lead," i'm jake tapper. breaking news in the politics lead. president trump repeatedly said blatantly racist things. that's the claim the president's once long-time lawyer michael cohen is now making to "vanity fair" magazine. cohen revealing specific anecdotes from his time with trump before trump became president. cnn confirmed that the story and quotes are accurate, according to cohen. the white house has not responded to our request for comment. a momentary warning for the parents that the language and the sentiments cohen claims the president used are offensive. if you want to hit mute for the next 30 or so seconds.
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cohen alleges during the 2016 campaign he watched a trump rally and the trump crowd was largely white. trump, according to cohen responded, quote, that's because black people are too stupid to vote for me, unquote. cohen also says years earlier after the funeral of nelson mandela, donald trump said, quote, name one country run by a black person that's not a shithole. name one city. that echos the remark he is said to have made about people coming to the u.s. from countries such as haiti or countries in africa. michael cohen also recounting a conversation with donald trump in the late 2000s while the two were in chicago. cohen explaining, quote, we were going from the airport to the hotel and we drove through what looked like a rougher neighborhood. trump made a comment to me, saying that only the blacks could live like this. cohen, of course, is currently awaiting sentencing after he pleaded guilty to tax evasion and campaign finance violations. and there are a lot of accusations that he's not a
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credible individual. cohen told "vanity fair" he's telling the truth. he's been reflecting, particularly in the wake of the president's inflammatory rhetoric ahead of the midterm elections. cohen claiming he wants to clear his conscious and warned voters he is now a registered democrat. this story coming as president trump is stoking fears about undocumented immigrants as his closing argument. moments ago, we saw something that was almost like a walkback from president trump on one of the more shocking claims he's made in the past 24 hours. this one regarding migrants attempting to make it to the u.s. after the president touted potentially having the u.s. military shoot migrants, if they throw rocks. cnn's kaitlan collins is in west virginia getting ready for the president's rally. and indicate larykaitlan, now pp says he never used the word "shoot." that's correct. but that's not the point. the impression he clearly gave, he was telling the military they should respond to migrants as if
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they were wielding firearms, not rocks, which means shoot. >> reporter: that's right, jake. he largely left it open for interpretation. and now he seems to be walking back what he had left open for interpretation yesterday when he was talking about the troops deployed to the border and whether or not migrants throw rocks at him. here's how he's wording it today. >> they hit them with rocks, some were very seriously injured. and they were throwing rocks in their face. they do that with us, they're going to be arrested. there is going to be problems. i didn't say shoot. >> reporter: so he says, "i didn't say shoot." but, jake, these are the remarks he made yesterday, remarks that i should note are now being used by the nigerian army to justify firing upon protesters, dozens of which they killed, and also remarks from trump that are being widely criticized by former retired military generals. >> we're going to consider --
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and i told them, consider it a rifle. when they throw rocks like they did at the mexico military and police, i say, consider it a rifle. >> reporter: so the president there, trying to walk back those comments on the south lawn, jake. while he was talking about immigration overall, something he has tried to put front and center at these campaign rallies, where he's on the way right now ahead of the midterm elections on tuesday. >> and kaitlan, last week, obviously, a trump supporter mailed cnn and critics of the president pipe bombs. and six days ago anti-semite radicalized about these lies killed 11 jews at a pittsburgh synagogue. the president today was asked about a new abc news "washington post" poll finding that 49% of the public believe that the president encourages politically motivated violence with the way he speaks. he was asked about that. what was his response? >> reporter: it was a pretty stunning response, jake.
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and one that's getting a lot of attention for the way he said it. the reporter asked him this question. the president turned, pointed his finger at her, and had this to say. >> no, no. you know what? you're creating violence by your questi you know? you are creating -- you. and also, a lot of the reporters are creating violence by not writing the truth. the fake news is creating violence. >> reporter: now, jake, the president said it pretty clearly when he said that if the media were to report accurately, in his opinion, there would be less violence in the country. and jake, that comment comes after the press secretary, sarah sanders, said last week that the president wasn't blaming the media or anyone, for that matter, for those events, those national tragedies that happened last week, jake. >> all right, kaitlan collins, in west virginia. thanks so much. and our experts are here with me. and there's a lot to talk about. and senator santorum, i know you
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would like to be talking about the economy, but that's not what we're -- >> great news today. has anyone reported that? >> absolutely. but now we have a lot of other things, thanks to president trump. let's start with the "vanity fair" article. obviously, michael cohen is not an impeccable character. do you disbelieve what he says the president said? do you believe it? what do you think? >> well, i don't know. but, you know, if you consider the fact that the president has made very outrageous comments earlier, using phrases like "s-hole," it's not inconsistent with some things he may have said. i think what's interesting about it, very troubling charges. very explosive, you know, accusations. but i think the interesting thing is, will it matter? like, will people even think that the president couldn't have said this or normally it would be a huge -- huge controversy. and could potentially crater his support amongst even his most ardent defenders.
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i expect it probably won't have much of an impact. >> do you disagree? >> no. but that's an indictment of the whole situation, right? that just means that his supporters think he's racist and still support him. which is an indictment of those supporters who would believe it. >> maybe they don't believe it. >> yeah, no. just to be clear, kevin said that some people would believe it. and so -- >> and still -- >> so i think that's an indictment. >> you don't have any trouble believing it. >> i think i've had my ears open to this president for two years. but even in the last week, i think it seems pretty obvious that it's not -- it's not shocking. and what i find shocking in the article is the white house didn't even bother to deny it. because it's totally credible that this president would attack a group that he doesn't like. it's credible that he would attack latinos. it's credible he would attack women, african-americans. because we've all seen him do it every single day. and it's pathetic that more
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people aren't outraged. >> just to clarify, the white house hasn't responded to a request for comment. haven't not denied it. >> they're pretty good at twitter, and they should really respond quickly. >> they haven't responded yet, is all i'm saying. senator, you do not believe michael cohen? >> i think as a general rule, no. >> do you not believe these comments? >> he could have said them. he might not have said them, he might have said them differently. i don't know. i just don't think michael cohen is particularly credible. and the fact he comes out five days before an election and decides he's going to throw this bomb out there to clear his conscious. all of a sudden his conscious is bothering him at this particular time? that just doesn't sound quite right to me. >> the timing isn't -- i mean, the timing is -- it leads to that sort of conclusion. why would you do this five days before an election? >> yeah, i don't know what's going on with him emotionally or psychologically. so i can't say that. but i agree with neera. there is nothing about this that is shocking. it's shocking in itself that anyone would speak this way. it's not shocking that he would speak this way because of all of
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the things he has already said. and i think the last week of what he's been doing with the caravan has just been out and out racial demagoguery. and so this isn't surprising. this is a man who started his campaign talking about mexican racists. and now is talking about -- >> rapists. >> rapists. >> you said racists. mexican rapists is what you meant. i understand the faux pas. >> and now talking about how women are particularly scared of the mexicans coming into the country. i guess because they're rapists. >> right. i think the one thing -- who knows about michael cohen completely, and i agree, he's not the most credible witness. i would also say that perhaps the fact that we have this searing situation happen where 11 jewish-americans are killed, and the president's response to that. that could be a reason why some people who supported the president would say enough is enough. and i'm going to actually say what i know. i'm not saying we do know, but i don't think it's so crazy that someone would have a moral
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conscious after this week and actually decide to speak up. and i think what's sad is not more republicans are willing to condemn the president. >> what was the president's response that was so reprehensible? he went to pittsburgh. he paid his respects. >> you know, at seven hours later, tweeting about the baseball game, after 11 jewish-americans were killed. or attacking the news for -- >> okay. >> creating violence? >> you can criticize the president for breathing seven hours after. the president is the president. he talks about a lot of different things. the reality is, the president did the proper thing. he went to pittsburgh, he paid respects to the people there. he has stood fast, as he does stand fast, in support of an opposition to anti-semitism, and supported the state of israel. probably more than any other president -- >> really? so when people chant "jews will not replace us" and he says they're very good people, you think that's standing steadfast against anti-semitism? i think that's an outrageous statement. >> i think you are conflating two different things.
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the fact that the president said there are good people on both sides is not confirming everything those people said. >> it's confirming some of what they said. when someone says "jews will not replace us", you should say that's wrong. and you should not say there's some good people here and some good people there. that was a mistake. just say it was a mistake what he did last year. >> in the strongest possible terms. he actually gave a terrific statement after that. and you condemned it completely. >> first of all, you are just making all sorts of excuses for him you never made for barack obama. talks about tweeting after this massacre, any time barack obama went golfing if anything was happening, the world was ending, according to the republicans and now it's totally different. but i think it's interesting that the white house can't just respond and say this didn't happen. because for most people, that would be the answer. if somebody like called your pr person and said, you just said a bunch of racist things -- >> would you believe them? >> yes, i would. >> i want to bring in kevin one second. i met you through the romney campaign. you were a spokesman. and one of the things i've been thinking about this week is how would the world react if mitt
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romney or john mccain had done a., b., c. or d.? because i feel like we're all just kind of getting used to things that we weren't normally used to. like if mitt romney -- the most offensive thing mitt romney did about immigration, other than his -- you know, offensive in quotes, was talk about self def defd deportation. >> if i had gotten a call from a reporter about that, i would have said obviously i don't want you to write the story yet, because i'm going to offer as, you know, harsh a denial on this, and offer every single evidence -- piece of evidence i can to refute what your claim is. so i would have a great deal of confidence in that. but i do think this goes back to my earlier point, which is that we would have normally been inside a huge meltdown phase inside of a campaign or potential white house. knowing that something like this happened. and -- or even having a charge like this out in the public. but, you know, that is -- that's the difference between the old politics of normal times and the
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politics we have today. >> yeah. everyone stick around. we have a lot more to talk about. it's not only vile, it's also factually wrong. we fact-checked that racially charged ad that trump tweeted this week. that's coming up next. stay with us. mitzi: psoriatic arthritis tries to get in my way? watch me. ( ♪ ) mike: i've tried lots of things for my joint pain. now? watch me. ( ♪ ) joni: think i'd give up showing these guys how it's done? please. real people with active psoriatic arthritis are changing the way they fight it. they're moving forward with cosentyx. it's a different kind of targeted biologic. it's proven to help people find less joint pain and clearer skin. don't use if you are allergic to cosentyx. before starting cosentyx you should be checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infections and lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms of an infection. or if you have received a vaccine, or plan to. if you have inflammatory bowel disease tell your doctor if symptoms develop or worsen.
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president trump might not have helped his case when he tweeted out that incendiary and racially charged web ad two days ago, an ad that attempts to stoke fears about undocumented immigrants. it cites the case of a mexican man who killed two california
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sheriff's deputies, flashing two images of the migrant caravan, while also showing images of the cop killer. it turns out that potentially offensive exterior is the gift wrapping around claims inside the ad that are just false. cnn's tom foreman dug into the argument under it all. and tom, the ad suggests the democrats are solely to blame for this cop-killer's presence in the u.s. is that true? >> yes, it does just that, jake. and it's true that the ad says that. and then it utterly fails to prove it. [ bleep ] using an actual court appearance luis brockmontes, he gets this right. he did say he would like to kill more police officers. >> i would like to absolutely kill more. >> reporter: but then it goes fact luo factually off the rails with two big claims. democrats let him in and democrats let him stay. both are misleading at best.
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at worst, flat-out false. here's why. records indicate he entered the u.s. illegally and was deported more than once before those murders. true, an immigrations and customs official told cnn it occurred under democrat bill clinton in 1997. but it happened again in 2001 when george w. bush, a republican was in office. sacramento bee newspaper also found records indicating he was back in the u.s. again in the early 2000s, still under president bush. bro bro brockmontes was arrested on drugs and weapons charges. that was the territory of then sheriff joe arpaio, an outspoken supporter of president trump. so much so, arpaio was pardoned by the president when the sheriff's racial profiling of immigrants ran afoul of the courts. the "bee" and other sources found he was deported twice and once released in those cases. arpaio's assessment?
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>> i don't know how many times he was arrested and slipped through the cracks. it's my gut feeling it wasn't just two times he's been deported. >> reporter: still, the video goes further. suggesting scores of other immigrants could be just as threatening. homeland security has even said the caravan approaching the border is harboring more than 200 folks with criminal histories. while offering precious little proof and few details. so the trump administration through this video and statements is strongly suggesting this caravan is filled with young men just as dangerous as brockmontes. gang members, killers, drug dealers. while denying the overwhelming evidence of how many men, women and children who come to the u.s. border seeking asylum are themselves feelileeing poverty violence in their home countries. jake? >> more breaking news into cnn. we're learning the pentagon said no to one of the trump administration's most unexpected requests for the troops being
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welcome back. dueling presidents on the campaign trail today. president trump in west virginia and indiana where he is stumping for republican senate candidates while former president barack obama is out for democratic candidates in florida and georgia. in florida, andrew gillum could become the state's first african-american governor. stacy abrams in georgia could be the first ever female, african-american governor in history. both races hotly con temperatured. and they have turned increasingly nasty with allegations of racism and ethics violations. casey hartung is in atlanta where president obama is expected to take the stage later tonight. caylee, president obama had some fierce words this afternoon in miami. >> he did, jake. president obama saying this might be the most important election of our lifetimes. he said the stakes are just that high. and so he's investing his time and his energy on the campaign trail here to try to help andrew
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gillum and stacy abrams write their own pages in the history books. earlier today in miami, he issued this call to urgency has he tries to help andrew gillum build a coalition similar to the one that vaulted him into office. enthusiasm among young voters you heard from him in a very familiar tone. >> the character of our country is on the ballot. in the closing weeks of this election, we have seen repeated attempts to divide us with rhetoric designed to make us angry and make us fearful. in four days, you can choose a bigger, more prosperous, more generous vision of america. an america where love and hope conquer hate. >> reporter: out here in atlanta, you can see people lining the street. we're told 7,000 people are
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expected to fill the basketball arena at morehouse college at barack obama headlines for stacy abrams and three other women who were on the ballot here in georgia. jake, there has been such a national spotlight on this race. yesterday you saw oprah winfrey come to stump for stacy abrams. vice president pence with brian kemp, and tonight it's barack obama. sunday brian kemp will make his closing argument with president trump. >> kaylee hartung, thank you so much. let's talk about the mid terms now with our panel. senator santorum, let me ask you a question. why is the georgia governor's race competitive? it's a -- really, it's a red state. i saw a georgia official not long ago, a republican, he said -- and this is weeks ago. but he said, 55/45 republican. that's just generally how the state goes. why is stacy abrams making this such a race against the secretary of that state, brian kemp? >> well, i mean, kemp ran against the establishment, and as we have seen with -- sometimes when conservatives run
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against the establishment, ken cuccinelli in virginia, for example. had the establishment been behind him, he would have won that race. but they didn't. that's what happens sometimes. when the conservative uprising happens and moderate republicans tend to walk away. look, i think stacy abrams is a good candidate. she has done a good job. she has run a good race. and if she can turn out the minority vote in georgia, she has a good chance of winning. >> well, he's really aligned himself with trump, though. so i don't understand. >> brian kemp has. >> isn't trump supposed to be the big king-maker and he's so popular with everybody? it doesn't really make sense. he just cancelled a debate, in fact, a long-planned debate with abrams to go and campaign with trump. so he's all-in with trump. so what does that tell us? and yes, she is an amazing candidate, no question, and she's organized really well. but like you said, this is really not a state -- >> the senator's point, though, was that there is probably some lingering pains, i think, inside the republican party where they're not as enthusiastic and
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coming out for kemp. one of the other things, too, the changing nature of the demographics of the suburbs around atlanta. and they have become less -- less of a red state in those areas. and so you are seeing democrats be more competitive historically there. they have tried and missed in the last couple cycles. this might be their cycle. >> i would say, she has put together a great coalition. she obviously is -- >> what is the coalition? >> she is getting a lot of support from suburban women. white women. white college-educated women. and i think to your point, you have republicans actually crossing over. and i hope it's because a lot of republicans are sort of repulsed by brian kemp's efforts to suppress voters and the tactics he's used. and i'm actually impressed how much that has been part of the conversation. but i would say i think the issue here is really, donald trump has -- when he was elected, to get more republican support. i think kirsten's point is, he got more republican support than brian kemp has been able to get. and i think what's really
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happening is you have a lot of moderate republicans who after two years of donald trump, who, you know, are actually now crossing over and want to check. >> suburban women with college degrees in the atlanta area. >> and it used to be, that is a group that used to be very republican. >> solid republican. >> can we just interpret voter suppression? every time people on the left use the term voter suppression, here's what they're talking about. voter i.d. that's what they're talking about. >> i don't want to go down the rabbit hole of voter suppression. this is about the exact match law and the question of whether stacy abrams' group is being unfairly targeted. >> and brian kemp has been thrown out of the courts. the courts just threw it out. >> i want to -- >> they changed the law. >> there is something interesting that obama said that was really interesting, because the president is obviously very convinced that the caravan is going to help get his voters out. president obama is now using trump using the caravan to try to get his voters out, or voters
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for stacy abrams or andrew gillum. take a listen. >> now in 2018, they're telling you the extensional threat to america is poor refugees miles away. they're taking our brave troops away from their families for a political stunt at the border. and the men and women of our military deserve better than that. >> this is from a man who said the extensional threat to america is global warming. let's put it in contrast, who decided to defund our military. who decided to destroy our economy, because he was concerned about global climate change. so you can take it for what you want, whether he's a credible voice. >> 90% of the globe, actually, thinks of climate change as an extensional threat. >> they're not worried about it any more, are they? >> no, they're not. they're backing away. >> let me just say this. what's fascinating about this
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last week -- we have seen a surge. there's indications of a surge of latino voting. and i think that it might be a counter reaction to the hateful rhetoric of donald trump over the last week. texas '23. >> we'll see on tuesday. kevin, i want to show you the latest poll in florida shows andrew gillum ahead of republican ron desantis there. but only by a point. he used to have a much bigger lead. you see gillum up by one point, within the margin of error. neck and neck. in georgia, stays abrams and brian kemp are in a dead heat. 47%, 47%. these -- trump, obama, pence, oprah, they actually could be the difference for any of the four four candidates. >> they do. and that's what it's about in these last 48, 72 hours. it's all going to be about turnout. this weekend, obama's trip is particularly well-timed in
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places like georgia and florida. they have the soles to the polls. a lot of traditional african-american churches are actually making their big push in the final weekend. and for the president -- i think the message was a little bit undisciplined today. but just his presence -- >> really? >> are yes, absolutely. he was all over the place. >> president obama or president trump? >> president obama. yeah. >> you thought he was -- oh, okay. how was his message -- i thought you were joking. >> i know. i thought he was going all the way across. he seemed like he was all the way across the whole spectrum. >> what should he have done? >> here's the thing. i'm going to give him credit anyway. his presence alone back on the campaign trail. and the energy that he brought in his appearances today is going to matter in this 48 hours. >> never worked in the past. >> we'll see. we will definitely see. i want to bring breaking news right now. the pentagon rejecting a department of homeland security request for u.s. troops to perform emergency law enforcement functions on the border. cnn's ryan brown joins me live from the pentagon. ryan, what are you hearing? >> reporter: officials are
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saying that the department of defense turned down a department of homeland security request for active duty troops to serve as a reserve force that would protect customs and border patrol officials while they perform their duties, that could provide riot control, traffic control, those kinds of functions. the department of defense turning that request down, we're being told, because they did not feel that active duty troops, that's title 10 forces, that are going down in the border, have the inherent authority to perform law enforcement functions on u.s. soil. so they asked the department of homeland security to go back to the white house to see if they really needed this to work with the white house, to grant u.s. military, grant the department of defense, additional authorities to perform law enforcement on u.s. soil. now, this is, of course, a long standing legal issue, whether or not u.s. forces can perform these functions in this situation. this is why the request was turned down. it's not clear whether or not the white house is considering granting those additional
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authorities. but again, over 8,000 u.s. troops staging, getting ready to deploy to the border. some of these forces dhs wanted to perform this law enforcement function. that request for now turned down by the pentagon. >> ryan browne, thanks for bringing us that breaking news. we appreciate it. quickly, just a comment from each one of you. you were shaking your head. you think that was the right move from the pentagon? >> i think it's the right move. they have to push back. this is a legal issue. not a political issue. and the defense department is doing the right thing pushing back. >> i think the department of defense has an analysis that this is not an extensional threat to the country. and i'm glad they held to that analysis. >> all right. weav we're going to take a quick break. can vulnerable red state democrats outtrump trump in order to hold on to their senate seat? stay with us. and a new samsung galaxy s9 included for every line. this is what you get with your $40 plan at verizon. recap! with t-mobile, you get this:
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lead. president trump sending a message to red state democrats. you can't outtrump trump. right now he's rallying in west virginia to try to unseat democratic senator, joe manchin. tonight he'll campaign in indiana with vice president and former indiana governor, mike pence. there the latest polls show joe donnelly essentially tied with his republican challenger, mike brown. as jessica dean reports. if you look at where president trump is holding the bulk of his rallies, it's clear, he's focused on unseating democratic senators in red trump states. >> reporter: in the final days before the election, president trump and supporters have zeroed in on red state senate democrats with one message. they're not conservative enough. in west virginia, senator joe manchin has been a prime target. >> he's a liberal and he's chuck schumer's little pet. >> reporter: manchin has tried walking the line of a democrat in trump country, including to
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confirm brett kavanaugh and neil gorsuch. trump won west virginia by more than 40 points in 2016, but manchin remains a slight favorite against pat morsi. >> i split with my own party to support funding for trump's border wall. >> reporter: but during a recent debate, he also left the door open for trump's controversial proposal to end birthright citizenship. >> i would want to see that legislation, make sure it was constitutional, and review it first. >> reporter: tonight, trump will be in indiana, rallying supporters, trying to convince them. >> there's no such thing as a blue dog democrat. a red state democrat. or a conservative democrat. because they are all pelosi democrats. >> reporter: a similar message to the one the president delivered thursday night in missouri. >> claire mccaskill promised to represent the people of missouri, but she broke that
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promise and joined radical democrats in washington. >> reporter: like other red state democrats, mccaskill is stressing her independence, even calling some members of her own party crazy. >> there may be people in this room that think i am not liberal enough to carry the banner of this party. >> reporter: she's also using issues like border security to demonstrate how she supported the president. >> we endorsed president trump and claire mccaskill because of their records on border security. >> reporter: for trump, that's not conservative enough. >> the people of missouri are going to retire far left democrat claire mccaskill. who has been saying such nice things about me. but you know what? she'll never vote with me. >> reporter: there are two states with tight senate races the president won't be traveling to before election day. that would be arizona and
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nevada. recent cnn polls showed the democratic candidates with a slight edge in both of those races. jake? >> jessica dean, appreciate it. so first of all, we should note that republicans told jeff zeleny at the white house that the republicans in nevada and arizona said to president trump, don't come. go to other places. his closing argument would hurt them in those states. >> happens all of the time. president obama was told not to come to many states. >> of course. >> that's not a surprise. >> so president obama not going, for example, to missouri, where let's look at the latest poll. 43% for claire mccaskill, the incumbent democrat. 43% for josh holly, the state attorney general. it's a straight tossup. trump won the state by 19 points. so you have to wonder if mccaskill's strategy of painting herself as a moderate, you know, distancing herself from what she calls crazy democrats, which i assume is you and neera. is working.
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>> proud crazy democrats. >> it might be working. >> well, yeah. i mean, she knows what she's doing, the fact that it's as close as it is in such a conservative state. it's a state that trump won. it's also just a fundamentally conservative state. she's not a liberal. she's a relatively moderate democrat. and the crazy democrats comment was actually talking about people going in and interrupting and yelling at people in restaurants, which even i have said, you know, goes too far. so i think that that was the context and everybody is willing to sort of let her do what she needs to do in order to win. but it's a tough state. you remember the last time around, it helped her win, the fact that her opponent referred to legitimate rape. so it's a very hard state to win. >> some may say this race there is late-breaking news about josh holly how he has misused campaign fund, having consulted outside consultants. and i think a big issue has been how he has moved from the ag
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race. so it's a very tough race. she did, you know -- she did pull it out a couple of years ago. but also i think the fact that this is a state that trump won by 19 points, and he's going in to campaign shows that there is a -- you know, there is an opposition. there are people who voted for donald trump who want a check on donald trump. >> you have an incumbent at 43%. i wouldn't want to be an incumbent in the last -- few days at 43%. >> democrats are going to win 50 house seats. >> that may be the case. look, i'm not saying we're going to hold on to the house. but i think in the senate, we have a lot of democratic senators under 50%. and i would feel really good if i was a challenger, even if i was a couple points behind. if claire mccaskill is a moderate, then there is no such thing as -- >> she voted for neil gorsuch. >> there is no such thing -- yeah, after he had the votes of republicans to be confirmed. just like joe manchin. he waited until he had the republican votes and then they cast the vote so they could go
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back and say they voted for him. >> yeah. >> the reality is, ten years ago, she would be considered hard left of the democratic party. now she's not. >> well, the party has moved to the left. and the republican party has moved to the right. kevin, let me ask you, speaking of joe manchin, the senate leadership fund, a republican super pac run by mitch mcconnell, no longer airing ads in west virginia because they don't think they can beat joe manchin. that's not a -- >> sources have become scarce. the thing about joe manchin, he's been well-funded, campaigning on his own, always been very good about tailoring his message, fighting with washington democrats when he needs to in order to draw the right kind of contrast. he's a very good politician and knows his state pretty well. so i think it is a tougher race for republicans there. patrick morsi is a very good candidate. he made a very good effort there. but i think it's -- you know, he's in a tougher spot going
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into these last 72 hours than some other candidates. >> and neera, one of the things we're hearing from some of these red state democrats is an argument of, look, i know you might not always agree with me, you but you know i stand up what i think is right. a character argument. take a listen to snippets from a couple ads. >> i don't always agree with claire mccaskill, but she works hard, fighting against those tariffs, doing all those town halls. and claire is not afraid to stand up against her own party. >> bet you never heard this in a political ad. i may not be the candidate for you. if you want someone to be with a political party 100% of the time, i'm not that guy. >> i think what they're basically getting to, is there is a group of voters in those states who voted for trump but who were also uncomfortable with sort of the ideological wedges of the republican party backing him 100%. and so there is a group of people who are open. in some of these states, 20% open to having someone who is
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moderate on a lot of issues, doesn't have to agree a lot of time but will serve as a check against trump, an interesting phenomenon two years later in states he won by 20%. >> and i want to get your reaction to something that president trump just said at this rally in west virginia. you were talking about how you weren't sure that the republicans were going to hold on to the house. president trump at a rally just moments ago saying the closest he's ever said to the acknowledgment, publicly, that republicans might lose the house on tuesday. take a listen. >> it will be ridiculous, frankly. it will be bad for our country. the democrats -- and it could happen. could happen. we're doing very well. and we're doing really well in the senate. but could happen. and you know what you do? my whole life, you know what i say? don't worry about it. i'll just figure it out. >> so is that -- >> it's so great for republican incumbents! >> i understand -- usually, this is done with a senior administration official whispering to the "new york times" or "washington post"
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reporter like our hopes are not -- we don't have our hopes up too much. usually a president doesn't go forward and say, i'll deal with it, it will be fine, i'll work it out myself. >> well, i'm not sure that's a great message. i think you need to continue to rally and try to fight to the bitter end. look, republicans still have a chance to hold on. a lot of the races are -- >> very close. >> very close. and if you look at traditional turnout models from past mid terms, under those models, republicans have a chance of, you know, getting closer or maybe holding on. we'll see how energized the democratic party is. if they're as energized as everybody says, republicans are in for a long night. >> what do you think is going to happen, kirsten? what's your prediction for tuesday night? >> i'm not making any predictions. >> good for you. very smart. >> i'm not jinxing. i'm still scarred from 2016. >> me too. >> so -- i do think -- i will just say, as -- if i were a republican house incumbent right
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now who is in an iffy race, i would be really surprised that the president -- who -- his base really listens to. >> oh, yeah. >> is basically saying, eh, may not happen. it's just like a weird -- >> their capacity to be surprised any more is null. they are no longer surprised by anything the president says. >> they need people to knock on doors over the next three days. >> not too many people are listening to that particular comment. >> they will within the next 24 hours. >> if you were out there knocking on doors, it's somewhat demoralizing. i agree with the senate. it's not going to happen. you know why? in the next 30 minutes, you could come back and he could have said something totally different. >> exactly. >> that would never happen. >> you can guarantee a red wave. red wave is coming. >> he would never -- all right. everyone stick around. one city with just one polling place that's been moved outside the city limits and a mile from the closest public transportation. how are kansans supposed to vote then? stay with us.
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in politics, with just four days left until the midterm elections, crucial rulings are coming down in two key states. first, a victory for voting rights activists in georgia, a federal judge there ruling that more than 3,000 recently naturalized u.s. citizens will get to vote after all. the registrations had been put on hold by the georgia secretary of state who also happens to be the republican candidate for governor, brian kemp. but in cans, therekansas cans, new obstacle that could stop thousands. a federal judge just denied a request to open a new polling site in dodge city, kansas. why is that a big deal? well, the polling place, the only one in this city of 27,000 people, was moved to the outskirts of town, more than a mile away from the closest bus stop. the aclu argues this move will hit the large latino community the hardest, since they are most likely to lack the flexible work schedules that would let them travel to far to vote. joining me now is cnns kyung
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lah, taking a close look at the ballot access issues for us in a new cnn special report. and kyung, you talked to a person who said these moves are calculated. >> reporter: calculated as part of a tactic to get to a goal. and we're seeing this in kansas, georgia. we spoke to democrat jason kanter. to be clear, he is a politician. he has run for office. but also runs a nonprofit called let america vote. and what he and other voting organizations groups across the country say they are seeing this from state to state is there is a playbook. it has been executed, and it is growing. >> it became really clear to me that the voter suppression strategy i had seen the republicans run at the state level in missouri when i was the secretary of state, that that was about to be run on a national level. and the way that looks is basically this. step one is they undermine faith in american democracy. >> i'm afraid the election is going to be rigged. i have to be honest. >> step two, they create obstacles to voting. >> i strongly support voter i.d.
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laws. >> and step three, they create obstacles to those obstacles. >> they're voting, like, really early. we have to discuss that early thing. that's -- >> i argue, it is the number one strategy of the trump re-election campaign. >> how can you be so sure it's a strategy? >> i mean, i've had plenty of republican elected officials speak with me privately, and tell me that they're disgusted by what they hear in the republican caucus meetings and it absolutely is a political strategy. and they secretly tell me they really appreciate what i'm doing. >> making it harder to vote. that is an unamerican thing to do. >> there is a campaign against democracy going on in this country right now. and the republican party has just embraced it. >> the time has come for voter i.d., like everything else. voter i.d. >> all of this comes down to, jake, about power. that the political party in power tries to maintain that,
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put up all these obstacles, separate the voters from democracy, which is in effect the exact opposite of democracy. jake? >> and kyung, how far does jason kander's theory about voter suppression go? >> if you follow his trail, he says what we're getting a window into, a glimpse of, is the trump 2020 re-election strategy. his contention is the reason why we're seeing all of this heavy messaging to the base, that it isn't about widening the tent. it's about cutting people out of the tent. if you only engage your base and you make it harder for the other side to have access to the ballot box, you only need to include your base. jake? >> kyung lah, thank you so much. be sure to tune in tonight for kyung's special report, "democracy in peril," tonight at 11:00 p.m. eastern. sundown will mark the sabbath. today an emotional farewell as the last funeral for the victims was held for 97-year-old rose
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mallinger. she was laid to rest, surrounded by family and friends, and the community that adored her. mallinger, known as the matriarch of the temple leaves behind three children and five grandchildren and a great grandchild. today the "pittsburgh post gazette" honored the victims by putting the jewish prayer of mourning on its cover. our thoughts and prayers are with all of the victims' families as we wish them a shabbat shalom. may their memories be a blessing. tune in this sunday morning for "state of the union" two days before election day. my guest will be stacy abrams, and we'll have the heads of the republican national committee and democratic national committee. it all starts 9:00 a.m. and noon eastern. our coverage on cnn continues right now. happening now, breaking
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news. dueling presidents. as president trump goes from rally to rally, trying to drive his loyalties to the polls, he's now being answered by former president obama, who accuses him of lying, while warning this election may be the most important of our lifetime. rules of en ragement. the president tries to walk back his statement that u.s. troops on the border may shoot migrants and throw rocks. but finds another target, telling one reporter, and i'm quoting the president now, you're creating violence by your question. scare-a-van. the president continues to focus on migrants, saying more migrants are causing a direct threat to the united states. is this scare tactic working. and missed message. after virtually ignoring the roaring economy and booming employment, the president takes a stab at it in his latest ra