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>> greetings to the people. this is tanya. i know what i have to do. >> she was on a mission. >> how can you not love someone like that? >> death to the fascist insect that preys on the life of the people. patty hearst turned her back on her life of privilege. we had to prove that. >> the gun was loaded. i am a soldier in the people's army. >> she must have been forst to do it. >> she could have escaped if she wanted to. >> she saved my life. i think she was spectacular. >> we don't know where she is. lapd, they were closing in. >> you know, make our day. >> i did what i had to do. if she was in there, god willed it. the granddaughter of william randolph hearst was abducted by two men and a girl in a bizarre kidnapping.
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>> no ransom note, no phone calls, no word, nothing. >> the sla is the people's army and we fight in their interests. >> the fbi said the girl in the wig with the automatic rifle was patricia hearst. >> which college girl turned armed terrorist in a matter of weeks? >> southern california's largest manhunt continues. >> for someone my age, i've been through an awful lot. >> we don't know where she is. >> mom, dad, i'm okay. coming off now, the chopper is overhead observing, the fire is raging. we've got a better vantage point. starting off you can hear the officer yelling at us, he just yelled that we are in the line of fire. police now are broadcasting to the people in the house to cease fire. i can hear their megaphone.
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>> as soon as we turn on the tv, we see cops scurrying around and we hear gunfire. >> the area is still definitely sealed. that automatic weapons fire is from what we can gather here coming from a police officer's weapon. there are more police now. this place is getting -- filling up with police. >> i remember her saying one time, she thought she heard willie's gun. she thought she identified willie firing back at them. she was in this doing this bad-ass mode. >> we're trying to bring you these live pictures as they occur. we're using -- we're using the car here as cover. >> we thought all the other stations were competing with us for picture. we didn't know we had the only exclusive picture from the scene. and that we were starting to share it with all the stations in the area and then across the country. so we didn't know it, but we were ushering in a new age.
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we were basically saying good-bye to the age of television news on film, and hello to the age of television news on videotape and live. >> there is still fire coming from inside the target house, which is across the street as i said before from us right now. >> the house is burning and there's still shooting. >> but there was smoke everywhere. and we couldn't see the house. and somebody said, hey, they're shooting out of the crawl spaces. and so they had kicked out the floor furnace and gone under the house. >> two females exit the back of the house. >> nancy perry got out. and she had a gas mask on. she had a gun in either hand. pistols. she was shot and killed. camilla hall was just inside, and i know she was shot in the head because i saw it. then somebody drug her back inside underneath.
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so we began to put rounds into crawl spaces, and they were all killed in the crawl spaces. >> and of course the obvious conclusion is that the los angeles police have indeed found the nesting place of the symbionese liberation army, and there's not much left of it now. >> it's like 62 minutes from first to last, where we were giving the announcements. didn't take long once that house started on fire, that ended it. >> we just stood there, and we were just, you know, pretty shocked by how this whole thing ended. >> it was found that there was a can of gas, and there was bullet-ridden. those tear gas grenades hit that puddle of gas that was created by the gas can leaking, and that really caused the fire. >> never seen anybody not try to escape a fire. i think they were that committed. i mean, or that crazy. >> we're watching this for a
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couple of hours. and really, there's very little dialogue going on between us. there was really nothing to say. we all knew, and we didn't have to talk about it, that what was happening before our eyes on television was our responsibility. that we got into this shit at nell's store and all of our subsequent escapades, trying to stay a little bit ahead of the police, had caused them to end up being encircled. we realized it's our fault. i mean, it's really kind of on me. i'm the one that got stopped coming out of the store. >> we will continue to monitor the scene here and bring back reports to you as it occurs. getting too dark to get a picture. this is bill diaz in south los angeles. >> for the history of los angeles police, it is the longest, most intense shoot-out in the city's history.
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>> lapd fired over 5,300 rounds. sla fired an estimated 3,000 or 4,000 rounds. some of them were cook-offs. 83 tear gas canisters were fired by lapd. >> there were 18 weapons recovered from the fire. two pipe bombs were found unexploded in the location after the fire. 23 homes were damaged in the shoot-out. >> no police officers were shot. and no innocent bystanders were injured at all. the coroner arrived at the scene. and they were looking at the bodies to try to determine -- everybody wanted to know if patty hearst was there. >> i actually had gone down to l.a. a few days before to get away from it all. we heard a bulletin saying they had the sla cornered somewhere in compton. i got in the car, drove up. we got there.
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the place was a smoking ruins. you know, for a while it was devastating. it really -- we had no idea who was there. >> five bodies were found initially. >> the sixth body was not found until the following day. when they recovered that body, everybody thought that was patty hearst. >> and that's when everybody took a kind of a breath like, my god, is it patty? was she really there? >> there were six sla members inside the house. >> nancy lang perry, camilla hall, patricia soltysik, willie wolfe, donald david defreeze, angela atwood. >> the news story became, where's patty hearst? what's happened to her? >> considering everything i've been through up to that time in
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my life, throw vietnam in, may 17, 1974, is the worst day of my life. i don't remember truly what anybody did or what any of us said other than i remember patricia wanted to retaliate immediately. she was devastated and angry. she loved somebody that had just been murdered by the government. it was necessary to keep going, you know. to stay alive. but i realized that, you know, we just had to get the [ bleep ] out of l.a. we had to live to fight another day.
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fbi agents and california police hunted for patricia hearst today as an armed and extremely dangerous fugitive. >> with few resources, little money, we had to figure out what we're going to do next. we realize that our only option was to go back to where we just escaped from. but we had to wait awhile. we waited about two weeks. we picked memorial day. there's going to be a lot of people on the road. it's going to be more difficult for them to isolate us in that traffic. we just bought a car. kind of an old car. patricia laid down in the back seat because they're looking for three people. >> we request that citizens possessing any information relating to the whereabouts of these badly wanted, armed, and extremely dangerous fugitives -- patricia hearst, william harris,
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and m. emily harris -- immediately contact the fbi. >> you know, we had hundreds of agents covering leads. they were looking at parking lots, stolen vehicle reports, anything unusual. at the end of the day, after the shoot-out in los angeles, it's as though they disappeared. >> as always with the sla, they are drawn ultimately to berkeley. because they feel that's the only place that they can find any sort of support. >> and we get down into the haight and the panhandle, and the car just -- dies. we happen to be right in front of the house of some people that we know. we knock on the door, they come to the door, they go, we don't believe it! the fbi just left here, man! next morning they fed us and they gave us a bunch of cash that they had from their savings. emily found us a place in east
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oakland. and we got to get to the east bay. we don't have a car, we have to ride muni now together, public transportation. these are buses and trolleys. emily left her shotgun with me and her so between us we had one of those big shopping bags. it was long enough to keep all the weapons in. it looked better for this woman to be carrying the big shopping bag. so hearst was carrying the heavy thing. i mean, i remember thinking about it. it was funny. we're riding -- here we are riding the san francisco muni, bag full of guns, in the vicinity of where we had the golden gate safehouse. it's insane this crazy shit. we had a unique capacity for survival. we had to try to get some people to help us out and we needed to get some money without having to rob banks to do it. we didn't need any more drama that we couldn't deal with because we're down to three people. >> thank you, willie, camilla,
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mizmoon, and fahizah, viciously attacked and murdered by 500 pigs in l.a. while the whole nation watched -- >> there was one political rally, and it was at berkeley, and it was organized and hosted by a woman named kathy soliah. kathy soliah was an actress, and she was angela atwood's best friend. >> we saw kathy soliah's picture in the newspaper while she was giving a memorial for the rest of the comrades that died. i met her through angela and i knew her a little tiny bit. normally she would not be a person i would look up because there was too much of a connection in the recent past with angela. but we were desperate. >> although it's not necessary to say, keep fighting. i'm with you. and we are with you. >> right on!
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>> we ended up having this meeting with her. kathy brought jim, her boyfriend. i think her sister, josephine, was with her. she wanted to help us. she wasn't afraid we were going to get her in trouble. give us enough money to keep going for a minute. bill, emily and patricia are like hunted animals. they are running from the law, running from what they regard ascertain death, but they have one thing they want to do. they want a memorialize the six of their comrades what died. >> at approximately 6:30 this morning, the radio station received an anonymous call stating, in effect, that the sla had a communique for us. >> definitely ceased to exist after everybody got killed. the people that helped us stay alive were not in the sla. sla was murdered. we had to kind of send a last communique, and we had to
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eulogize our comrades. and patricia, she wanted to do the eulogies. >> greetings to the people. this is tania. i want to talk about the way we knew our six murdered comrades. the fascist media has of course been painting a distorted picture of these sisters and brothers. cujo was the most beautiful man i've ever known. we loved each other so much. neither cujo nor i had ever involved an individual the way we loved each other. probably because our relationship wasn't based on bourgeois [ bleep ] up values, attitudes and goals. it's because of this that i still feel strong and determined to fight. i was ripped off by the pigs when they murdered cujo. the pigs probably have the old
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monkey cujo wore around his neck. >> she exactly described him as he was. as she encountered him. she talks about cinque. >> cinque loved the people with tenderness and respect. he helped me see that it's not how long we live that's important. it's how we live, what we decide to do with our lives. i died in that fire on 54th street. but out of the ashes, i was reborn. i know what i have to do. while i have no death wish, i've never been afraid of death. for this reason, the brainwash duress theory of the pig-hearsts has always amused me. and i would never choose to live the rest of my life surrounded by pigs like the hearsts. death to the fascist insect that preys upon the life of the people.
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editor for "ramparts" magazine. >> first time i heard about the symbionese liberation army, jack and i had moved to new york. it was in the media. it was very fascinating, especially since we had lived in berkeley for so long. and then the massacre in l.a. happened. jack's first response was, i want to write a piece, i want to write a story about who these people are. you know, this -- these are america's children. jim kilgore and kathy soliah were a couple at the time. they came to him and said, we think we have some people that you might be interested in meeting. jack comes out to berkeley and they blindfolded him and drove him around for a while. and then they ended up in this apartment up in north berkeley. they took the blindfold off and he was sitting there with three
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very wanted people, lots of ammunition, and not much else. >> and he, you know -- he breaks into a huge grin. >> his first response was, i really would like to tell you a story. and they said, that's not going to do us any good, we have to get out of here. >> jack sold us on his ability to get us out of the state. he didn't give us the details at the time. but he said he had the resources to do it. that's all we wanted to hear. jack insisted that if we were going to be transported across the country, we couldn't bring any firearms. >> i'm not going to put my family at risk, there will be no guns. and that was a huge argument. >> we struggled over that with him a little bit. we didn't have any -- we didn't have any real standing. we were pretty much at his mercy. he was taking care of us, right? the original plan was just to get us to the east coast. >> jack's idea was that he would contact his parents who were in
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the area, and he and patty could ride with his mom and dad as a couple sitting in the back seat. >> jack scott's father, john, is driving. right before the four of them get on the highway, he pulls over to the side of the road and he says, patty, listen to me. i'll take you anywhere you want to go. you don't have to do this, you can just go home. and patty hearst looks at john scott and says, get the [ bleep ] on the road and start driving. >> so -- he got back on the freeway and headed east. a few days later, jack and patty show up in new york, and there they were. i think i probably was a little bit starstruck. in my recollection is that she was serious. she was on a mission.
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and she would have me go out and get her coffee and "the new york times" every morning, because of course she couldn't leave the apartment, and she would be by herself. for that -- however long it would take me, half an hour. i'd go out and come back and she would sit in the living room with her pen and she would circle names in "the new york times." and when i asked her what she was doing, she was adding names to their hit list, to the sla hit list. and she didn't appear to be afraid. she was pretty intent on getting back, you know, on continuing on with the revolution. jack went back out and got bill. and another friend of ours had gone out to get emily. i had found a lovely little farmhouse not very far from where jack was born and grew up. >> they had rented the farmhouse in pennsylvania. we're not going to be expected
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to be in the area of scranton, p.a. we have -- none of us have a connection to it. it's a good choice. big enough to not have neighbors around. we cooked together, we ate together, we had conversations. we recovered from the stress of being on the run like we were. and we had a lot of space to roam around in. here we could go off and be by ourself. >> they were traumatized, i think. i mean, they had watched their friends and comrades be murdered. live on television. from my perspective, to take a risk to save lives is a risk worth taking. i can't imagine how i would feel if i didn't do it. >> jack had helped wendy yoshimura leave the bay area when she was wanted. he asked her to come live with us for a while.
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she hit it off with patty from the beginning. >> in 1974, i was working the san francisco pd cases where somebody had fled across the state line. wendy yoshimura, her boyfriend, a guy named willie brand, who had been arrested and convicted of a bombing in alameda county, she was being charged as an accomplice. and so she took off. when i was assigned the wendy yoshimura case, we had no information that she was associated with the hearst investigation. until we got a teletype lead in from new jersey where wendy might be located. building a better bank
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at some point in there, jack's talking about a book, making it clear that it's, you know -- the money that's supporting us is going to soon run out, and maybe this will be a way to get some resources at some point. >> jack, he was like a bulldog, you know, when he had an idea of how something would be, should be. he could be like -- he wouldn't let go of it. it was really not about making money, it was about getting the story out. trying to get people to understand why they were doing what they were doing. >> he knew that this was probably an interesting book. why would middle-class, educated
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white people pick up guns and wage revolution against the government in ways that would probably get them killed? what would motivate them to do such a crazy thing? >> we had a friend, he came to the farmhouse. he was doing tapes towards making this book. >> we took turns transcribing the tapes. >> patty hearst's writings, her revolutionary statements. she did a lengthy document where she talked about her life and how she felt about her parents and willie wolfe. >> she is as, in her own words, a radical, a revolutionary feminist. someone who believes in world revolution. >> i started to feel that this was never going to be beneficial to us. and in the end, i couldn't like what we created. it just sounded hokey. and we wouldn't give him the manuscript.
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we destroyed the tapes. and that really pissed jack off. >> i think there was a lot of conflict around that. >> jack scott, who's a real journalist, starts to recognize that there's no book coming out of this. and he's stuck now with these fugitives in his farmhouse. >> i know there was a single moment when jack said, i'm done, and left and wouldn't go back to the farmhouse. >> i think jack was a little bit afraid of us anyway. the fact of the matter is we had a falling-out, and we had to leave. >> and i was like -- okay, now what? >> the group has to figure out where to go. and they reach back out to kathy soliah. >> we were like, going back to california is just crazy. but they were adamant that's where their army and is and that's where they had to go. >> he had agreed to take patty as far as las vegas but he said, i'm not taking you into california, that's insane. bill and emily, you're on your
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own how to get back. >> jack and patty were in the van. and jack got pulled over. and she was disguised as a pregnant woman. >> at one point in their travels, jack scott and patty hearst were stopped for speeding by an iowa state trooper. >> she could say, "oh, by the way, officer, i'm patty hearst, take me in i want to surrender." and patty hearst says nothing. >> scott quickly jumped out of his van and started gabbing with the officer about the football victory over ucla. the report says the trooper smiled, put away his ticket book, and drove off without ever seeing miss hearst in the van. >> jack scott drives patty hearst to las vegas. and he leaves her in a motel there. and for two days she is on her own. she could surrender. she could leave. but instead she waits for one of the team.
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in this case, jim kilgore takes her from las vegas to sacramento. >> emily and i took a train all the way across going to sacramento. the comrades who were going to help us get set up, they decided sacramento was a reasonable location, that they probably wouldn't look for us there. >> in sacramento, there's a new cast of characters. wendy yoshimura, kathy soliah, steve soliah, josephine soliah, jim kilgore, and mike bortin, the very excitable member of the group. >> mike bortin, a little bit of a wildman. first time i met mike, he talked about wanting to do an operation while on lsd. >> i had nothing to do with patty hearst being kidnapped, although it may be one of the few things i wouldn't mind taking credit for. i didn't meet patty hearst until
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the three of them came back from hiding out in the country. she had a pretty vivacious personality. she used to call bill little hitler. that tells you a lot right there. >> mike and i butted heads. we never got -- i think we had -- i think we had a good shoving match one time. when i think about it. >> we were just hiding them out. we didn't agree with their philosophy. but they were being hunted like animals. kathy, she got jim kilgore and steve involved. >> steve soliah's kathy soliah's younger brother. steve wasn't radical per se. he was a progressive-minded person, a pretty low-key, easygoing guy. >> patty hearst and steve soliah develop a relationship. and they wind up living together for quite some time.
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they fall in love. and it's just an illustration of how she has become part of the group. >> we took this lawyer up to meet them, because hopefully we were going to try to get them to cuba. so right in the middle of it, patty says, "i'll see you guys later, i'm going to go get some stuff at the store." and he's like -- he's like in shock. like, i thought she was brainwashed, i thought she was kidnapped, you know. like what the [ bleep ]? she was superhero, you know. i mean, you can't help it. i mean, this little, tiny girl with the big machine gun. giving up all that money. i mean, what can you say? how many people have been in that situation, you know? how can you not love someone like that? there was this one day in the park, she's sitting out there clearly a mixture of different
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emotions. that's what makes it so interesting. she says, you know, sometimes i wish someone would just snatch me again, take me to new york or something, get out of this shit. ♪ ♪
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since i cannot mail you a letter, patty, i'm reading this over the air and hoping and praying that it will reach you. my darling patty, christmas is almost upon us again, and i'm sure you must realize our agony as we face the possibility of a christmas without you. dan and i find it too painful to continue living here with so many memories of you. and are moving to an apartment in the city in a few months. i spend many hours a day praying that god will inspire you to come back to us. hopefully at christmas. with all our love, mother. >> the fbi was doing anything they could to attempt to locate these people. and they were not being successful. they were living under assumed
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names. they were renting multiple apartments under assumed names. they were making it almost impossible for us to find them. these people really knew what they were doing. and then what had happened was, we had developed information that wendy yoshimura's fingerprints had been found in homesdale, pennsylvania, in a farmhouse. and we'd received the information from a gentleman by the name of walter scott. >> jack's brother was a very troubled man. and he was drunk and went into the fbi office and said, hey, i think patty hearst was in this farmhouse. >> we wiped down the entire house. every surface got cleaned with bleach and cleaners. they ended up finding, inside of a mattress, a piece of newspaper that had wendy's fingerprint on
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it. and what really had happened was, one night when we were still there, she woke up in the middle of the night, there was a big spider on her bed, and she freaked out. she tore up the bedroom looking for the damn spider again. got us all in there looking, we're all looking for a spider, nobody can find a spider. she picks up the mattress, and underneath the mattress she sees there's a little quarter-size hole in the bottom of the mattress. she figures the only possible place the spider could have disappeared to is inside that hole and underneath the mattress. so she wadded up a piece of newspaper and pushed it up inside. so that was pretty thorough. i thought that was pretty good. i gave them a point for that one. >> that tied the hearst case to wendy. and that's when the case was assigned to me. this case has wound down from being the number one priority case in the fbi. so it's gone from hundreds of agents, and we're down now to
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four. >> they know, wendy yoshimura's the ex-girlfriend of a bomber who is in prison named willie brand. they see that she has visited willie brand in prison. they also see that some of the soliahs have visited willie brand in prison. and it's through this that the fbi begins to identify the cell. the group that is now sheltering patty hearst in sacramento. >> jack and micki scott, they stayed underground, then they decided to become public. they said they would not cooperate with the fbi trying to find the sla. so the fbi couldn't get any information, because nobody would talk to the fbi. for me, it was relatively easy to find these people and talk to them and they would all talk to me. i mean, all i'd have to say is
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"i'm writing for "rolling stone" and it wasn't difficult to get sources. everybody wanted to be in "rolling stone" one way or the other. i think we had 33 sources by the time we published. >> no, we know most of that came from jack. he'd like give them information that made it available to the fbi about intimate details of his harboring us. without claiming that it was him. >> jack scott was the primary source. jack sat down with howard and me and started telling us everything he knew. >> it seemed like it was his way of getting back at us for us not letting him have the materials, right? >> the fbi called us up and said, give me part two before you publish or we're going to cut you off at the knees. >> after we head out, our lawyer got in touch with randolph hearst and set up this dinner at his house. he was totally accepting of her having joined the group. he said, she's been a rebel her whole life, and it didn't surprise him.
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and i said, you know, she was upset about her mother accepting the reappointment to the board of regents when she was a kidnap victim. and he said, yeah, he said, i didn't know she was going to do that. he said, that really made me angry, so i'm going to get rid of the bitches when this is over. he came across as a father who was really distressed about his daughter. >> do you think anything can be done to help her to surface? >> no i think if she is surfaces, she'll surface because she wants to come back. i hope she does. i hope she comes back that way. >> it seemed with all the fanfare and all the support for patty hearst that there would be money flowing in. but it didn't happen, not in the slightest. the only cash we had was what i got from painting houses down there while they were plotting. >> it was a tough existence.
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sure and pick up more pens. she was a church clerk and one of a group of women that would count the weekend offerings and take them into the bank every monday morning. >> crocker national bank. they had a perfect setup. so it was ideal. and we struggled -- if anything, we struggled about who was going to go in. everybody wants to go in. you know what i mean? everybody wants to be the one doing this. so we had a discussion. naturally i ought to be the leader because i was cozy cucumber. no, we have to have the woman doing it. we have to make a statement and all that. [ bleep ]. emily's never been in the bank before. >> in the end we decided two men and two women would go in. jim, mike, emily and kathleen. steve and i would be in a backup car. patty was in a third car with wendy. >> my day started on april 21, 1975 just like any other day.
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when the bank opened at 10:00 we opened up the doors, i went back to my counter. >> in fact, i believe one of the sla members held the door open for my mom and the other two women to go in ahead of him. and so it was three of them. and she was carrying this big heavy old style calculator. >> next thing you know they're screaming at the back door. >> my mom had this big adding machine in her hand and wanting to set it on the counter. >> emily, she'd taken the safety off her shotgun and it discharged. >> that split second of an instant she was shot with a 12 gauge shotgun about 6 or 7 feet from me. >> and emily was so nervous. that's why she did it. she was so [ bleep ] nervous. >> people were screaming, yelling, cussing at us. pistol-whipping people. jumping over counters.
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cocking shotguns at the back of our heads. you [ bleep ] better put your heads in the dirt or we'll blow your [ bleep ] heads off. there was a young woman there that was pregnant that they beat her up and she lost her baby. and i remember putting my hand over my mouth so i wouldn't subconsciously or otherwise allow any sound to come out. and then it was over. i remember going to the kitchen and getting towels to try to pack mrs. opsahl's wounds. we put the towels on her body. god. it just went through her. and so we knew there was nothing
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that could be done. we just sat with her until they came. and after they took her away, we cleaned up the blood that was left on the floor. we couldn't just leave the mess. and there was nobody there to take care of it but us. >> the mother of four was killed. we killed her. [ bleep ]. >> my dad actually was a surgeon. i found out later that he had been one of the doctors that tried to resuscitate her when
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they brought her in and was the last to step away, and i think one of them kind of had to insist that he stop because he wouldn't on his own. couldn't imagine him having to do that. for those first few days after my mom was murdered and up until the funeral, things were really in a fog. i was just in a state of shock. >> patty was driving the getaway car, and according to the felony murder rule, anybody who is a participant in a felony and there's a murder, they're also responsible for that murder. >> from april 21st, 1975, we've all lived with the death of myrna opsahl.
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it being an accident doesn't change anything. it didn't change anything about what i was doing. it didn't alter my path. it didn't do that for any of us. it made us all amazingly introspective, but we came to the same conclusion. we had to carry on. like many 19-year-olds, she's open to the sense of adventure. not skiing in switzerland. this is not skiing in switzerland. >> 56 days in the closet turned her into an urban guerrilla. >> patty hearst places a bomb under a police car. >> we were clearly outgunned.
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>> we knew we were in for a fight. >> said i'm going to kill her if you don't come back. >> the daughter of an american millionaire turned revolutionary and if so why. it may be called the trial of the centery. as soon as we turn on the tv, we see cops scurrying around and we hear gunfire. patricia wanted to retaliate immediately. somebody that had been murdered by the government. >> i was ripped off by the pigs when they murdered cucharo. still feels determined to fight. >> at that point it was against her will to go home. >> we started having discussions about expropriations again. >> that split second of an instant -- >> the mother of four was killed. >> it didn't change anything. it didn't alter my path. we had to carry on. >> the granddaughter of william randolph hearst was abducted by two men and a girl in a bizarre


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