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people to take on the impossible in their lives. >> kaylee hartung, cnn. >> that's a wonderful way to wrap it up. thanks so much for joining me. i'm martin savidge. the news continues now with ryan nobles. >> martin, thank you. you are in the cnn newsroom. i'm ryan nobles, in today for ana cabrera. we're in new york. sunday in washington, d.c., another day of a partial government shutdown, day number nine. another day when around 800,000 federal employees will wonder again when they will be paid. you've seen here on cnn, many of those people telling us their bank accounts are now empty or frighteningly close. they have to cover their rent, their bills, and buy food. remember the reason, two words, the wall. >> we are going to build a great border wall. we will build a great, great
wall. we're going to build a wall. don't worry about it. oh, we'll build it. >> president trump wants money to build it. democrats in congress say, okay, but the amount they offered does not make the president happy. so president trump allowed the money for nine cabinet level departments to dry up, and there we stand. both sides are saying they won't budge, no further negotiations scheduled. i want you to hear now from one of the president's closest adviser, kellyanne conway. she was on cnn earlier today, echoing her boss' sentiment, that it's not their fault, that the democrats are being stubborn, not the white house. take a listen. >> they failed to pass -- >> shutdown over a wall. >> no, no. that is incorrect. >> the president said it in the oval office. he said very, very clearly. >> the shutdown is over border security. no, no, no. the house later passed $5.6
billion for border security. they didn't pass it for a wall. >> is it border security, or is it the wall? >> we have a drug crisis at our border. it's all of the above. >> i'm sure you're hearing this. republicans and democrats are frustrated because they say the goalpost keeps changing. >> no, where are they? the president tweeted yesterday, where are they? he wants to make a deal on border security. where are they? nancy pelosi is in hawaii. >> they haven't heard from the president in 19 days. >> that's not fair. they know where he is. he's exactly where he's been the entire time, working in washington, d.c., in the white house. >> he wants to get this wall. then invite people to the white house and sit down and do the art of the deal. that's not happening. >> he wants all types of border security. the house passed his package. it went to the senate. the senate did not counter offer. why aren't they countering with something that means something to them? we haven't heard from them. it's complete crickets, for
partisan political reasons. >> one thing the democrats say they will do when they take over the house on thursday is pass a bill to reopen the government, which may end up on the president's desk. >> all of the government, including department of homeland security? >> yes, that will fund the department of homeland security, not the border wall. if the president gets that on his desk, will he veto it? >> it depends what's in it. what is it going to say? in other words, they're not even discussing it over the christmas and new year's break, dana, what could possibly be in that package. >> if he got something the senate already passed, would he veto it or not? >> it depends what's in it. the president likes the 5.6 billion that was in the house package. his incoming acting chief of staff and his vice president have offered less than that as a compromise. we've heard nothing in return. and negotiation by definition
has to include both sides. he's in the white house. he's in washington ready to negotiate. this is important for border security and keeping the government open. you keep saying wall, wall, wall because you want wall to be a four-letter word. >> and there's something else. the soon to be former white house chief of staff telling a reporter that an actual physical wall was never really a practical option for the entire border with mexico. john kelly, in an extensive interview in today's "los angeles times," saying, quote, to be honest, it's not a wall. the article goes on to say, asked if there's a security crisis at the southern border or whether trump has drummed up fear of immigrant invasions for fears, he said, quote, we do have an immigration problem. now to the white house. sarah westwood is standing by. the president hasn't made a personal appearance this weekend, but he's been busy on twitter, accusing democrats of not caring about border
security, congratulating his administration, and promoting fox news programs. senator lindsey graham did have lunch with the president. he told reporters afterwards that the president is in a good mood. what more can you tell us about that? >> reporter: that's right, ryan. senator graham suggested that president trump remains optimistic despite the stalemate that has dragged this partial government shutdown into a ninth day. graham said he pitched the president on what he describes as a potential breakthrough, if it were to gain traction. that's a deal that would trade some funding for the border wall for temporary protections for the dreamers, the young people protected under daca. graham said the president didn't commit to that deal but described it as interesting. keep in mind that budget director/chief of staff nick mulvaney had already signaled the president was willing to back off that demand for $5 billion in border wall funding. in fact, vice president mike pence pitched democrats on a deal that would involve the president settling for about half of that just last week. the democrats rejected that
deal. nonetheless, graham said if the president were to line up his trade of daca protections for wall funding, the president should hold firm at $5 billion. take a listen. >> one thing we talked about is making deals. now, there's a lot of distrust in town. i guess you can blame both sides for that. but after lunch, i've never been more encouraged, if we can get people talking, we can find our way out of this mess. that would include around $5 billion for border security/wall/fencing, whatever you want to call it, in areas that make sense and deal with another problem that's looming. >> reporter: it's important to note that deals that would trade temporary or even permanent protections for the dreamers in exchange for $5 billion or even $25 billion of wall funding, those have failed in capitol hill already. it's unclear if this is something that has the opportunity to blossom now.
mulvaney has said democratic congressional leaders have not yet been invited back to the white house for further talks. >> senator graham made news on another front as well today, sarah. he said he and the president spoke about the u.s. troop pullout from syria. this was something senator graham had been very critical of. early this morning, senator graham told cnn he wanted to change the president's mind. was he successful? >> reporter: graham seemed to suggest he might have been, despite the president promising what would be a swift withdrawal of the troops from syria. graham suggested perhaps the president would be willing to hit the pause button on the removal of troops while he assesses the situation, particularly with the islamic state, even though when the president was in iraq earlier this week, he said the generals had come to him to ask for more time in syria, and he had denied that request. graham saying the president might be willing to reconsider. take a listen. >> i think the president has come up with a plan with his generals that make sense to me. the goal is to make sure isis doesn't come back.
we left iraq too soon. we had them on the ropes in iraq, left too soon. i think the president's very committed to making sure that when we leave syria, that isis is depletecompletely defeated ae inside the ten yard line. and the iran/kurd situation has to be dealt with. i think we're in a pause situation where we're re-evaluating the best way to achieve the president's objective of having people pay more and do more. >> reporter: remember, ryan, despite graham suggesting trump may consider leaving the troops in' syria until isis is defeate, the president had already declared victory on the war against isis. so graham's comments may signal a shift in the president's thinking when it comes to the troop withdrawal from syria. >> of course, we haven't heard that from the president himself yet, which is an important distinction. but senator graham saying a pause on the pullout from syria. sarah westwood, thank you very much. all right. let's talk about all this.
we'll talk about the stalemate on dpcapitol hill and other things. we have a great panel with us. steve, i want to go to you first. you know as well as anyone about the president's deal making skills. this is what he pitched to the american people. is this an opportunity for president trump to cut a deal, and why hasn't he invited chuck schumer and nancy pelosi to the white house to get it done? >> well, it is. first of all, it takes two to tango. he can't negotiate by himself, which unfortunately is what he's doing right now. while he's working in washington, d.c. and not on vacation, nancy pelosi is at a luxury resort in hawaii. as sarah just told us, the president put a very serious offer on the table, which is he would take half of the money he requested. that's literally meeting in the middle. he wants 5 billion. the democrats initially offer 1.6 billion. he said, 2.5, which isn't even really quite the middle of those two numbers. regardless, 2.5 billion for
daca, something the democrats claim they very much want, to protect young americans who broke immigration laws, but not by their own doing. crickets from the democrats. that's not negotiating on their part. it's hard to have the art of the deal when the counterparties are, number one, out of town, but number two, disingenuous. >> do you buy that, guy? >> i think that's very lame. here's why. this whole thing is an artificial, made-up thing. remember, when you played those tapes, none of them said, and mexico's going to pay for the wall. and mexico's going to pay for the wall. mexico's not even in the conversation now. the american taxpayer is. and here's the other thing. you can't -- the republicans can't trust the president because the senate passed this bill, and the house passed, then the president reneged on it.
this art of the deal -- >> well, guy, it never actually did pass the house. the house passed a different version. >> they passed a bill that had no border wall funding. and that's all reporting. we don't know what he was considering or not considering. thankfully he came down on the side of -- >> he says the vice president told senators. we know that. the vice president told senators he was going to -- >> it wasn't public. >> look, here's the point. the promise for the wall was a foundational promise of 2016. perhaps the foundational promise. he was unambiguous. the people handed him that mandate. the mexicans can still pay. that's easy to do down the road, very easy. tax remittances. let me tell you this. if the president does not hold the line on this, people like me, people who worked hard for his 2016 election, are going to
have a hard time talking -- >> well, that's a perfect entry into my next question. it is people like you that would probably raise their eyebrows as to what his outgoing chief of staff told "the los angeles times" today saying that it's not a wall, it's never really been about a wall. do you believe the chief of staff, or is that one of the reasons he's leaving? >> i'm glad you asked. look, i have enormous respect for general kelly. i've been invited with him into a lot of conversations in the white house to talk about this very issue as part of the president's hispanic council, about the wall, about immigration. he's probably, i would say, more hardline than the president on issues of immigration. remember, he was head of dhs. >> head of southern command as well. >> so he's hardly a permissive open border or porous border guy. quite the opposite. but the semantics of a wall, i mean, how do we define wall? i think a working definition is something that's hard to get through, whether it has slats, whether it's glass, whether it's a fence. >> but the president himself has
said physical barrier. >> sure. >> here's what happened. when you played that clip of kellyanne conway, the white house blinked. she said twice, it depends what's in the bill. you know what you guys ought to do? the house, the democrats, should pass a bill next week when they take over, put six billion in for the wall, and permanent protection of dreamers and permanent protection of mueller's investigation. would you guys sign that? >> absolutely not. >> apples and oranges. >> daca for wall, that's a sensible trade. by the way, neither side likes. that's the definition of compromise. >> mueller has nothing to do with the border. come on. >> let's talk about the democrats. you've already opened that door here. this is what terry mcauliffe, former virginia governor, said this morning on "state of the union." >> what should democratic leaders in congress do?
>> not give an inch. democrats should not give an inch. donald trump owns this. he said he wanted to own it in the december meeting in the oval office. they had a deal. >> interesting position from terry mcauliffe. i covered him for all four years of governor in virginia. he was a great deal maker there, worked with republicans. much different perspective he's presenting here. why? >> well, once you're in leadership, you have to lead. the democrats are going to be in leadership. in my view, the people that senators and congressman are at home talking to right now about this shutdown, which is about the wall, they don't like shutdowns. trump, when schumer and pelosi went to the white house, donald trump got stung by pelosi. he says there'll be so many tapes and so many tv commercials of him saying i'm proud to own the shutdown.
well, okay. now let's have a deal. let's cut a deal. >> i believe in the deal, but -- >> you got to give something. >> what mcauliffe was saying was no deal, no negotiation. that's the opposite of leadership, guy. this is the problem with the democrats getting control of the house. their agenda is antagonism, resistance. resistance is not governing. >> you don't know. they haven't even taken office yet. >> they were for the wall before they were against it, to channel john kerry, because they voted for 700 miles of border barricades. senators named obama, clinton, biden, schumer all voted for serious border barricades before it became an issue of donald trump. >> let's move on to a different topic. i have you both here. you're both experts on a lot of these topics. i want to move on. guy, you've hinted about it. this new phase of the investigation into russia once democrats take over. they're going to have a ton of subpoena power. impeachment is in the background. you know a lot about impeachment because you advised president
clinton during his impeachment situation. i know you're not a fan of president trump. >> no. >> but if you were advising him like you were advising president clinton, how should he handle this potential flurry of investigations from democratic committees? >> right now the conventional wisdom is, well, the house controlled by the democrats could pass articles of impeachment, but the senate, because they're controlled by the republicans and it takes 67 votes, would never get there. the danger there is what if a smoking gun comes from the mueller investigation or one of these other investigations? i mean a real smoking gun where there is real collusion. he says there isn't, but what if there is? he's going to need every fendri he can find in the senate. there are only two rules in politics. get elected and let nothing get in the way of being re-elected. he might have a very serious problem because impeachment in a
trial in the senate is for all the marbles. all those senators are at home right now talking to people, and they can't keep on accepting this stuff that you guys do, like turning the migrant children that died into pawns. >> we can't go into another tangent on that. steve, i'm sorry i can't give you the last word. we're out of time. appreciate you being here. meantime, in arizona, allegations of mistreatment of migrant children. this is based on videos of the arizona southwest key shelter, which have led to troubling allegations. the videos are disturbing. cnn correspondent nick valencia is live in el paso, doing a terrific job reporting down there by the southern border. what can you tell us about this latest development? >> reporter: this video was first reported by the arizona republic, ryan. they filed an open records request with the arizona
department of health services. as you noted, we have to warn our viewers that some of you may find this disturbing. what it shows are three alleged incidents, three separate incidents of staffers dragging, pushing, shoving some of these child migrants at the shelter in youngtown, arizona. as we understand it, southwest key did report these incidents to the local law enforcement as well as federal officials. the mair coca county sheriff's office launched an investigation. they determined no criminal charges would be brought forward, but that has seemed to have changed. overnight, we got a statement from the maricopa county sheriff's office. they're recommending child abuse cases to the maricopa county attorney's office. based upon the evidence gathered during this thorough investigation, mcso executive command has made the decision to submit the case to the maricopa county attorney's office for its review and determination of criminal charges. they go on to say, this case will be submitted monday, and further questions should be directed to the county attorney. now, we should note to our
viewers that this shelter was closed down in october. a spokesman for the facility, they said they welcomed the decision by the office of refugee resettlement but didn't go into the details. now looking at this video, we can perhaps tell why. >> all right. nick valencia, thank you for that update live from el paso. >> reporter: you bet. up next, pressure on paul manafort. how a powerful russian may have leveraged the president's former chief of staff -- or campaign chief, i should say, during the white house race. also ahead, the president's lawyer tells robert moouler uel put up or shut up and suggests the special counsel is embarrassed he lacks evidence of collusion. you're live in the cnn newsroom. it's geico's all-time greatest hits back on tv for a limited time. and if you love the best of geico, you're gonna really love voting online for your favorite. you can even enter for a chance to appear in an upcoming geico commercial.
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that former trump campaign chairman paul manafort allegedly owed russian oligarch and putin ally oleg deripaska millions of dollars. a man by the name of victor boyarkin said he was sent to pressure manafort to pay it back, and manafort offered ways to do so. what does that mean? essentially, a powerful russian may have had leverage over the future of the president's campaign chairman, the same campaign now being investigated for possible collusion with the kremlin. matthew chance is live for us now in moscow. he has unique insight into this. you've attempted to ask deripaska about these reports before. how well did that go? >> reporter: it went quite badly, actually, ryan. thank you very much for asking. it was in vietnam last november, and it was just important to try and, we felt, get some of these
issues to oleg deripaska, who is one of russia's richest men. he's a massive businessman in this country. he's been sanctioned by the united states. he's an aluminum magnet, actually. he's very close to vladimir putin, the russian president. but of course, he was in this disastrous business deal with paul manafort. manafort ended up owing him millions of dollars, or at least that's the contention of deripaska. you know, manafort then offered these private briefings to oleg deripaska when he was the campaign chairman for donald trump as a way of getting whole, in his words, with oleg deripaska. i tracked down oleg deripaska, a very difficult guy to meet, in vietnam last november, put some of these questions to him. take a listen. >> did manafort owe you billions of dollars when he was the head of the trump campaign? we just want the real news.
we want the real truth. did he owe you millions of dollars? >> it's news for idiots. >> did he offer those private briefings to try to repay that debt, mr. deripaska? can you just answer me that, please? it's a big issue in the united states, sir. did he offer you those private briefings to try and repay some of that debt to you? is that why he offered them? >> get lost, please. thank you. >> reporter: yeah, just let that hang there. i couldn't come back with a snappy response. i decided to just let it hang there and walk away. what "time" magazine has now revealed is this guy, victor boyarkin, who now works for oleg deripaska, was the debt collector, sent to try and extract those millions of dollars from paul manafort at the time when he was the
campaign chairman for donald trump. so it's an extraordinary connection. >> yeah, matthew, good thing you were there to ask those tough questions. also pretty remarkable that deripaska used the term "fake news" in his response to you. terrific reporting. matthew chance, thank you, live from moscow. with us now to discuss this, former u.s. assistant attorney for the southern district of new york, also a cnn legal analyst, and knee deep in all the reporting on this russia situation. i mean, what you have here are allegations that paul manafort owed this russian oligarch, who is connected to vladimir putin, millions of dollars and that one of the ways he may have been offering to pay that off was to get meetings with then-candidate trump. is this the smoking gun? could this be the collusion conspiracy that robert mueller may be looking for? >> it could lead us there. it's a reminder of just how deeply compromised paul manafort was when he was named the campaign chairman in march of 2016. think about it. here's this guy who is a bizarre selection. he's essentially a busted out,
failed political consultant who had spent roughly the last decade operating in the ukraine representing pro-russian politicians and failed a the that. his candidates lost and were swept out of office. he's not just bankrupt, he owes millions of dollars to these shady russian oligarchs, former spies, and he comes in and is given the job as campaign chair for no salary. now, i think we can fairly readily understand why manafort wanted the job, right? he said it himself in the e-mail that we just referenced torque g -- referenced, to get whole. he saw it as a way to get access, to potentially work himself out of debt. the question is, why would trump want him? there are so many highly qualified, veteran republican strategists, plolitical operatives, who would have gladly taken that job. why paul manafort? >> i guess that could be what makes or breaks donald trump. if it turns out this was just manafort operating on his own president trump just selected manafort because he knew him for a long time, could this be the
exit strategy donald trump is looking for? >> look, maybe it's a coincidence. maybe trump just said, i want this guy. let's give him a second chance to run my campaign. or maybe there's a why. i think what we'll be seeing heading into 2019 is a lot of the answers to the why. why is the president still trying to build a tower in moscow well into the campaign? why is everybody lying about it? why is he bringing in this deeply compromised guy? if mueller lands the plane on any of those, i think we could see the landscape shift quite a bit. >> let's see how the trump camp is responding to all of this. his personal attorney rudy giuliani touched on collusion today. he gave mueller this ultimatum. take a listen. >> my ultimatum is put up or shut up, bob. you know, what do you have? there are those of us who believe you don't have anything on collusion. by the way, if you did, it's not a crime. so what the heck are you doing? do you have anything that shows the president of the united states was involved in a conspiracy to hack the dnc with russia? of course you don't. but if you do, put out a report
or give it to the justice department. let them review it, make sure it's not classified or whatever. put out a report. we're ready to rebut it. >> is rudy giuliani in a position to offer robert mueller ultimatums? >> i don't think so. i don't think robert mueller gives what rudy says more than a passing thought. this is typical rudy bluster and distraction. this investigation is nowhere near the length of name it, whitewater, watergate, benghazi. and look at the results mueller has already put on the table. paul manafort, papadopoulos, on down the line. when you have a really strong case and the defense has nowhere to go, today try to put you on trial. this isn't about what my client did. this is about the evil government. so roux dudy is clearly going d that road. it doesn't often succeed, but it's better than nothing. i think what rudy is trying to do here is appeal politically to
the republican senate and to the popular support for the president and give them at least something to say. they need something to hang their hats on. this is something, which is more than nothing. >> rudy has really showed his hand in that respect, right? he said before that he doesn't necessarily need to make a legal argument on the president's behalf, that it is really more than about a political argument because the court is essentially going to be the united states senate. >> he's been quite transparent about his motives. rudy does seem to be assuming the indictment is off the table. i think he's probably right given the current doj guidance on that. remember, that's not -- the idea you cannot indict a sitting president is not in our constitution. it's an internal policy that doj has adopted. i've seen those policies come and go and change in my time at doj. i don't think this is likely to change at this late point. i think the big battle ultimately will be a political one. rudy has been, to his credit, pretty transparent about the fact i'm just trying to throw political bombs here. >> great for your insight. thank you.
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adding insult to injury, that's maybe the best way to describe friday's decision by president trump to freeze federal workers' pay for 2019. an automatic 2.1% pay raise was supposed to take effect in january, but now that is off the table. of course, with the shutdown threatening to last well into january, some workers would probably be happy to know if they'll get a paycheck at all. one of them is laurie mccann, an irs worker and furloughed worker. first off, just tell me, how are
you and your colleagues doing right now as you deal with this partial government shutdown? >> well, you know, it's a very stressful situation, especially during this time of the year. the uncertainty of not knowing when we will go back to work and whether or not we will get paid is very stressful. >> then you're worried already about how long this furlough could last, the shutdowning l c last, then you learn the president's decided to freeze your pay increase. if you could tell president trump one thing right now to describe what you're going through, what would you tell him? >> well, what i would like to say, especially regarding the shutdown and not receiving a paycheck, it's not even -- even though we have to make our necessary living expenses and we're trying to figure out how to do that, but it's also expenses beyond that. for example, i recently had
total knee replacement surgery. i have physical therapy. so at this point, i have to make the hard decision this week, do i continue to pay the $90 a week co-pay, or do i pay a bill? do i buy food? what do i do? we have those type of things. you know, i represent 700 members in illinois in the schick la chicago land area. i'm hearing from them and the issues they're having. one has a spouse with expensive medicine, prescriptions, $200 a month. do you pay the $200 a month? do you cut down on the prescription? what do you do? you have to provide food for the table, for your children, for your family. what do you do? it's very difficult out here, you know. what i would like to say is that as federal employees, we are committed to servicing the american people, but we can't do that if we're sitting at home.
>> i wonder, too, it seems as though you're in a state of constant uncertainty. this is the third shutdown in one year. even if they get through this impasse, there's a chance it's only going to be for another short period of time. what is it like to be living under that constant cloud of worry that at any point you could be put -- be told that you aren't going to be getting a paycheck for the near future? >> absolutely. as you stated, earlier this year we had two. they were shorter. there's a whole government shutdown procedure you have to go through. you have to figure out who's accepted, who has to come in. then you do have to figure out, okay, what am i going to do? how long is this going to take? am i going to be able to pay my mortgage or rent? can i pay my car note? what about my utilities? what about my credit cards? there's so many things that you're questioning at that point. it's so uncertain. so you can't plan for anything. >> all right. lorie mccann, we wish you well as you wait for politicians to
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some of the country's best-known newspapers may have been the victims of foreign cyber hackers. several papers, including "the los angeles times," "the wall street journal," and "the chicago tribune" had printing and distribution delays over the weekend because of the malware. that's not all. cnn's kaylee hartung is tracking this story. "the l.a. times" says the cyberattack may have originated outside the united states, but tribune publishing couldn't confirm that. what do we know about these hackers and their potential motives? >> at this time, who's
responsible for this attack and why they did it is information we don't have. very few details have been shared about where this attack came from and the motive behind it. in situations like this, it's very difficult to determine where an attack like this could originate from. the san diego union tribune is reporting that the intention of the attack is believed to have been to disable infrastructure, particularly servers, as opposed to trying to steal information. so if that was, in fact, the intent of the attack, the hackers were very successful. now, tribune publishing says this malware was detected in their servers on friday. that means any newspaper using tribune software was impacted. there were printing problems. at "the baltimore sun," for example, the puzzles and comics were not included in saturday's paper. for "the san diego union tribune," the impact was much more dramatic. they say it was one of the greatest disruptions they've ever experienced in publishing.
only 15% of their subscribers received the saturday edition of their printed paper. that actually extended deeper into the newspaper offices when folks tried to call "the l.a. times" to inquire about where their paper was. the phone lines were on the fri fritz. there was no customer service to be had. we have heard about similar attacks. they've happened to home computers, hospitals, global shipping companies. this new experience for a newspaper organization, the real irony here for some is to think a digital bug could be responsible. there is real concern for the effectiveness of this attack. >> is there any way to confirm that a foreign cyber hacker was potentially behind this? >> you know, again, in a situation like this, tracking who specifically was responsible for it is incredibly difficult.
as we've said, "the l.a. times," they're citing a source with knowledge of the situation who says they believe this attack came from outside of the country. tribune publishing is not ready to confirm that. they have alerted the fbi to this case, but again, we're very low on details of where this all originated. the good news, for any subscribers, none of their personal information or credit card information, there's no evidence that any of that was compromised. >> and so many people were upset by this. it shows just how important printed newspapers still are to many americans in this culture because this was a major disruption. kaylee hartu ng, thank you so much for that report. california's largest utility could face murder or manslaughter charges for its alleged role in the deadliest wildfires the state has ever seen. plus, new video captures migrant children being pushed and dragged at an arizona shelter. this as the incoming head of the
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for six felonies, the company was kwikconvicted of in 2010. they said in statement pg&e most important most responsibility is public and work force safety. there are enormous stakes at play here for pg&e. it's one of the nation's largest gas electric utilities. they face 15 billion dollar liability for the 2017 wine country fires and could face much more for this year. they already implemented new enhanced safety measures including upgrading special safety management measures. in some cases turning off e lick
t -- electric power when extreme conditions are forecast. it's going to be a full on out there. >> you mentioned the possibility of increased fines but what does this mean for pg&e in totality in the near and long term. >> they will have to have robust plans for mitigating the risk of fire. they have thousands of wood electric pole. they have thousands of line that go through forested area. they will have to get tough of cutting down trees around them and replacing the poles with steel poles. >> they could face millions of dollars in straight fines but millions in upgrades. >> in the last ten years they put $15 billion into their infrastructure. they may have to do that plus many the years ahead. >> fascinating angle to this
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star is making headlines begin. meghan markle has become a favorite target of the british media. max foster has more on why the press continues to scrutinize her every move. >> reporter: just seven months after her fairy tale marriage, the knives are out in certain sections of the british media. >> there's been almost shockingly quick turn around. one minute it's the royal wedding. it's marvelous and fantastic. the next minute there's all these negative stories in the pre press. it's within a few months meghan seem to have move fd to someone being discussed in ways that make her seem as if she's the nation's villain. >> reporter: sources say they saw it coming. the wives at war narrative that
speaks to female stereo typing in the media more than the reality of royal family dynamics. sad and predictable are two words i heard used for the coverage. >> you have seen a lot of criticism of people who marry into the royal family. we saw it with diana. she roughsuffered badly. the press criticized her weight, what she did, her fashion. >> reporter: elements of reporting are undeniably true. the sussexes are moving out. a decision that seemed to have added to a rumor of a rift. other stories are made up. an article suggested that meghan is a vegan when she revealed she was roasting a chicken when her husband proposed. >> i think race is factor in this. i think there's many part of the
british press are saying we're going to try to box her in. there's already a gender discount. there's the classic stereo type if she's a strong woman, she's a bossy woman, she's a difficult woman. of course being a woman of color is another layer of stereo typical cliches. she's the angry woman. she doesn't fit in. she doesn't understand how we do thing. >> reporter: british royals don't respond to negative media coverage. many of the more personal attacks on duchess about her paver has gone unanswered. she is far more focused on selecting charities that she will support going forward. she's renovating a new home and having a baby in the spring. the british monarchy is an ancient institution and the
feeling behind palace walls is this new latest storm is going to pass. max foster, cnn. you are live in the cnn n s newsroom. finally this weekend some words from the president about the pressing issues facing the country today. words that weren't ticked out by the president himself on twitter. his thoughts on the government shutdown that left so many american families without paycheck and his decision to pull u.s. troops out of syria. we're hearing it from senator lindsey graham who flew up from south carolina this morning to have hundred lunch at the white and ask the president to reconsider his plan to withdraw american forces from syria. sarah, did