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and we do have a major new development in the longest government shutdown in u.s. history. it turns out it's really bad for the economy. maybe that's not a shock to the 800,000 people not being paid this morning, but it seems to be new information for the white house. overnight "the new york times" reported that white house economists now believe the shutdown will be twice as bad for the economy as initially projected. that's half a point half off of gdp already and getting worse by the day. new signs this morning the congressional republicans are getting uncomfortable with you will after this and maybe the white house too. administration is ordering tens of thousand of furloughed government workers back on the job, get back to work, but we still won't pay you. and, this story. the american people may never see robert mueller's report on the russia investigation. trump's nominee for attorney general william barr revealing at his confirmation hearing that the public will get a filtered report that he will write to
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congress with his conclusions from mueller's probe. barr will be back on capitol hill today to answer more questions. if confirmed he will oversee mueller's investigation. meanwhile, in a new court filing which is heavily redacted which you can see, i will read to you the two words that are not redacted, and and then. the president's former campaign chairman paul manafort lied about his contacts the man says the fbi is linked to russia intelligence. we have a lot to cover this morning. we have rachel bad, a congressional reporter at "politico" and sam brunny. and john avilan, our cnn senior plil political analyst. i was told there would be no math in this show, but the general gist of it, frank, here's what the lead of the "new york times" is. the partial government shutdown is inflicting far greater damage. they acknowledged this on tuesday, as president trump's economists, his own economists
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doubled their ownership projection each week the standoff continues. >> it's a serious matter, but the question is who budges with this information. i don't see -- clearly the toll of this is enormous on all of us, the entire economy. but where does this get us? i don't see democrats moving because they feel very confident in their position and they have ever reason to, public opinion is on their side. they've got the best talking point, which is if you want to stick to your campaign promises, donald trump, why not have mexico pay for the wall, why do you need $5.7 billion from us. for the president, it becomes an ever more fierce point of pride. we're getting this information about the toll of this and it's real and disturbing, but i don't see an end in the next couple of days. does anyone else? >> the problem is you just laid it out. on the one hand you have the practical implaitiications of t shutdown on one hand and the president arizona pride. these are not equivalent
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positions. and the president who's hitched his star on the economy is going to pay attention to this report because this is twiets as badce they expected 'the they're trying to make sure no one gets their tax refunds delayed because that might affect aspects of their base. that's a bs end run around the attempt to obscure the real impact of the shutdown and it's affecting real people in realtime. it's going to get worse and the president's going to have to get over himself. >> let me read you from the coast guard here writing to all the coast guard members. today u you will not be receiving your mid month paycheck. to the best of our only in this marks the first time in our nation's his interest that service men ebbs in an u.s. armed force have not been paid during a lapse of government protions. we' appropriations. i have two sources for who's responsible. number one, the president of the united states because he told us that he would own this shutdown back in january. and the second is the american
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people. because all the polling, and this is p 601 here, shows that fortes find the president is more responsible for this shutdown 55 to 32% than democrats. rachel, you cover congress. you've been talking to people there. frank and john were just asking any sign anyone will budge here? there were bipartisan groups of senators meeting last night. any movement there? >> tbd at this point. there's a group of senators including lindsey graham who's a top ally of the president and just a couple weeks ago said to the president if you don't get your wall in this fight your presidency might be over. graham's singing a very different tune. on monday night the senators bipartisan agreed that they needed to end this shutdown first and then continue negotiating some sort of border fix which the president has totally rejected. part of me thinks that's why he's focussing on the house so much and on house democrats because they're easier him to
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scapegoat and he's not seeing some of his top allies like graham in the senate joining wi with democrats. yesterday he tried bring motd ratetors to negotiate with them to go around nancy pelosi who is not budging and a lot of them did not show up. but there was an alert saying they're bringing problem solver bipartisan members to the house today to continue talks. i don't know if democrats are going to show up, but i do know i was hearing a lot of angst on the part of some democrats in the house yesterday because they wanted to show but they were worried he was going to use them as a pawn. >> what would koh blame them. they feel hood winked because they say they've offered money even for the wall in the past and i variably he then rebuffs them somehow. but don't you think that by the democrats not showing up at all, does that give the republicans talking point, ah-ha, democrats aren't even serious about negotiate e
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negotiating, the president invited them to the white house. >> the white house is being careful about who they're target willing. it's looking at freshman senators. they're targeting democrats who are from districts that donald trump won. that's a smart strategy. but unless the president and white house offer them anything real, unless they come way down from 5.7 billion and put the dreamers on table, i don't think this is going to get anywhere. >> it's great the problem solver caucus is taking this step, but it's late for the president and white house to find religion on swing voters in swing districts. his entire strategy and imspuls to play to the base. we know how this ends. we've known it for months. there's some kind of deal when the government gets open there's a deadline to do a balanced package that looks a lot like what they could have passed last year which is border security four dreamers and maybe something bigger. it's a question of whether the president will embrace that. and that's what graham's pushing. he's not wrong, he's right. >> so why aren't they doing this
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today. >> because the president rejects that. >> let me tell you why. i have a sign pay the word from up above about what's going on here. ann cultur kuhlturcolonelture e the president is not budging. >> recently in last couple weeks we've reeled him back. the one thing i think not only with troop, you'd think especially with trump but with anyone is self-preservation and self-esteem. >> why is he digging his heels on? >> that's why, it is self-preservation. because he's dead in the water if he doesn't build that wall, dead, dead, dead. >> everything sounds more dramatic with the background. >> the tom toms behind her table is very good. >> second of off the dead, dead, dead there at the end doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room. >> she's the big threat that he's worried about and she said i key phrase there, keyword
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hyphenated, self-esteem. his self-esteem is on the line because people like her have said if you do this, if you don't deliver on your promise you are nothing, you're imp poe tent and it hurts. >> it's time for mitch mcconnell to get involved and step up. this a national crisis and the majority leader is absent. >> rachel bade, where is mitch mcconnell. >> he got burned a trump a couple weeks ago. remember before the shutdown he specifically talked to the president on the phone and laid out his strategy. mcconnell is no fan of shutdowns. he's an appropriate eightor at
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heart and he thought he got the president on board to shut the president down and they passed a bill doing just that. it wasn't until avenue did that and avenue stuck his neck out that the president changed his mind because of people like ann cult ter mark edo anmeadow and that got him to shut it down. he's got a base that loves the president and he can't be out there punching back against the president so that's why he's not out there. >> no one loves when the economy gets dragged down and it could send completely halt growth if this continues much longer. >> and get the president's attention in a way that other things haven't. let's talk about the 2020 democratic field it's gret getting more crowded. last night on stephen colbert kirsten gillibrand announced her intentions. watch this. >> i'm filing an exploratory committee for president of the
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united states tonight. i'm going to run for president of the united states because as a young mom i'm going to fight for other people's kids as hard as i would fight for my own, which is why i believe that healthcare should be a right and not a privilege. >> really interesting, frank, to see how they're doing it, how people are rolling out their announcements and how many people are doing it and what they say about their motivation. >> how they're doing, i'm so glad you mentioned that. i remember we all do the day when you would arrange flags and family members just so and do it in a formal way. she's doing it on colbert. elizabeth warren rolled it out with a series of things including a video where she's getting a beer from her fridge and seemingly surprised that her husband's in the kitchen, thanks for stopping by. in the run-up he hasn't announced yet but we've seen beto o'rourke at the dentist. kamala harris on colbert monday night releases this mood tape where she's singing and dancing in her chair and laflg. this is a campaign 2020 where you're going to see candidates
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making whole new efforts to seem real, relatable, hip, et cetera, and that's part of gillibrand's announcement. >> these are getting interesting. >> if george washington announce the at his dent tryst it wouist have been a whole knew noouts unit new united states. this is donald trump break the mold and people saying great, let's see what happens. >> and alexandria ocasio-cortez, you're seeing her imprint on the way people are announcing. >> because there's a lot of dancing. >> she can't run, she's too young. but it will be interesting to see as people to go to her to get her support. in the senate with so many of them running, what's the dynamic down there? >> so far friendly, but you got to wonder how long that is going to remain. look, there's at least half a dozen if not there's going to be more. obviously people are more
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focused on the senate than a lot of these house members. a lot of the house members who are looking at running are, let's face it, back benchers in the lower chamber. but what i want to point out on gillibrand there is she's made for a moment candidate, right? right after the me too movement, she's new york democrat, she has sort of has this long history of advocating for women's issues before me too, including sexual assault in the military. so it will be interesting to see how she sort of latches on to that to sort of build her campaign going forward. >> lids warren economic inequality, kirsten gillibrand and on and on we go. frank, rachel, john, thank you. president trump's attorney general nominee told senators that the american people may never see the final report from robert mueller and that they would see a -- instead they would see a report from him that would summarize the conclusions from the mueller report in russia. in just hours william barr faces more questions in his
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confirmation hearing. lauren fox is live on capitol hill in the hearing room with more. lauren. >> reporter: good morning. this is the site of that eight-hour hearing yesterday where william barr faced tough questions from democrats on everything from mass incarceration to immigration, how he would implement the president's policy on immigration, and, of course, the mueller investigation. >> i am not going to do anything that i think is wrong. >> reporter: president trump's nominee for attorney general william barr reassuring lawmakers that he will resist any effort to politicize the justice department and promising to protect special counsel rooubt robert mueller's investigation. >> bob mueller could only be terminated for good cause and frankly it's unimaginable to me that bob would ever do anything that gave rise to good cause. i believe right now the overarching public interest is to allow him to finish. >>. >> reporter: but barr, who previously served as attorney
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general under president george h.w. bush signaling that mueller's final report may not be made public or shown in full to congress. >> under the current regulations the special counsel report is confidential. >> but the report that goes public would be a report by the attorney general. >> reporter: that answer prompting bipartisan concern. >> we should be able to see the informed information that comes out. >> i would strongly encourage you to put this all to rest. to make a report, a final report public and let everybody draw their own conclusions so we can move on. >> reporter: democrats grilling barr over this lengthy unso i licited report to department of justice last year calling the case against the president fatally misconceived. >> some have said on both sides that it looked like a job
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application. >> that's budludicrous. >> reporter: barr recounting a time where he was briefly considered for the president he's legal team and declined the position and they talked about his 30-year friendship with mueller. >> wanted to know what i thought about mueller eintegrity and so forth and so on. i said bob is a straight shooter and should be dealt with as such. >> reporter: over hours of testimony, barr breaking from some of president trump's key talking points. >> i don't subscribe to this lock her up stuff. >> the witch-hunt, as they call it, should never have taken place. >> do you believe mr. mueller would be involved in a witch-hunt against anybody? >> i don't believe mr. mueller would be involved in a witch-hunt. >> reporter: telling senators he agrees with former attorney general jeff sessions' decision from oversight from the mueller
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probe but calling it an abdo occasion of his own responsibility and refusing to commit to do the same. >> under what scenario would you not follow their recommendation? >> if i disagreed with it. >> reporter: now, democrats of course had tough questions but also halfway through the hearing dianne feinstein, the top democrat on the committee said she thought that barr could easily be confirmed. and chris coons, a democrat on the committee said he was seriously considering voting for will yun ba william barr. >> will the likely new attorney general withhold incriminating information about president trump in mueller's report? we discuss all that next. did you ever notice that the very first bite of every great meal is always the potato? that's why it should always be an idaho potato.
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. the president's nominee for attorney general vowed to protect the robert mueller investigation, but he says the american people may not see robert mueller's final report. instead, william barr will write a summary report to congress on the conclusions from robert mueller. join us us now, a former fbi supervisory special agent and jennifer rogers, a former federal prosecutor. laura, i think there are two clear things that emerge from these hearings yesterday. number one, william barr is going to let the mueller investigation continue to its conclusion, he will not fire robert mueller. he does not think it's a witch-hunt, yet, yet, the final r product from the mueller investigation, the american people might not know exactly what it is.
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listen to how william barr explained why not yesterday. >> well, under the current rules, that report is supposed to be confidential. the attorney general, as i understand the rules, would report to congress about the conclusion of the investigation. and i believe there may be discretion there about what the attorney general can put in that report. >> how much might he keep out of the report that the people ultimately see? >> i think this is why his confirmation is so important and why everyone is so zeroed in on what exactly he's going to do here. to be honest, at the end of the day it's in his sole discretion under the regulations. mueller has to support a confidential report to barr if he is confirmed as attorney general. but it just lays out his prosecution decisions and also what he's decided to not prosecute. so there could be confidential
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information in there, there could be classified information, there could be issues that raise executive privileges as we've already seen from president trump's legal team asserting that. one thing did he make clear is that trump's legal team will not have an opportunity to correct the report as his lawyer rudy giuliani has thrown out there before. barr said that will not happen. but absolutely, the issue of discretion and how he sort of laid out this sort of bifurcated process where mueller would submit his report to barr and then barr would provide some sort of public summary was really the first time we had heard of that scenario. but it's certainly going to be totally up to him. he is in the driver's seat if he's confirmed on this issue. >> that was a disappointing development for people who like transparency. for people who have been following all of the threads of this to know that they may never see the full picture of everything that transpired was disappointing. how do you think, jennifer, he did in terms of laying the fears of democrats that he would be a
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stooge for the president or wouldn't be independent? >> i think did he well in some ways. certainly say that mueller can continue and finish his work is a huge positive. i think in this area we've been discussing it's a real problem. people are going to want to see not just that mueller say decided not to indict the president, they're going to want to know what the evidence and legal analysis was when put up against the law and see a conclusion that says, yes, we le believe that the committed crimes but we won't indict him because of the doj guidance. so people will want to see more than the actual result and conclusion and i think he's reading the regs too narrowly. it is within his discretion, but he's fully able to come back today and tell the senate i will be transparent and let the people now obviously what's redacting classified information what the evidence was and what the analysis was and not just what the ultimate conclusion was. and i think he should do that. >> bottom line, he did sit before the senate, he answered all their questions. i think chris coons and others looked at him and said here is a responsible adult who has done
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the job before. >> and he didn't have the answers to all the questions. i haven't read that for a long time, i will be reading up on that. >> but he's not going to fire robert mueller. he's going to let the investigation continue, and that's not nothing, josh. >> it's not nothing. but there are two aspects here that a lot of people fear. one being that he would come in and disband the special counsel. obviously with house democrats there to provide of that check that's not going to happen. but then the other thing that many of us feared was he would somehow constrain mueller or constrain the information that we ultimately learn. that's what we risk right now. i got a text message yesterday from someone inside doj who summed it up nicely said i think we could have done a lot worse. if you're inside doj you don't know what's coming your way. sessions is gone, we know the president has been on all-out campaign attacking the leadership, is he going to put a stooge in there? most people look at the performance yesterday from mr. barr, admirable job. they're not getting someone that maybe they could have gotten. i remember when i was inside the fbi after comey was fired, you know, the joke was are they
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going to put sheriff joe in as fbi director? is this going to be a stooge? we're not getting that with bar. the issue is transparency and what is going to be made public. the american people have been shellshocked by lies from this administration. every single day big and small we're lied to. so through no fault of his own, mr. barr is asking to us look at him and trust him that he will release information and not hold something back. again, right to be skeptical because the administration -- we've run out of the benefit of the doubt so i think what the best thing to do moving forward would be that assurance that, look, we're going to make the report public. there's intense public interest here and the last thing i'll say on that is that i was harkening back to the hillary clinton case. i was inside the fbi working for jim comey. i remember the decision do we make this public even if there's no there there? is there such intense public
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interest? we know he came out and did so and got fired. even though they don't find something terrible from the president, is there enough public interest that the public needs to know what happened? >> bill barr criticized that specific decision from james comey. in fact, people look at his decision in james comey in that situation and think that barr is sending some kind of signal, that he's not going to he will us more in this case. think we have that sound bite and we may as well play it. >> jim comey, as i've said, is an extremely gifted man who's served the country with distinction in many roles. but i thought that to the extent he -- he actually announced a decision was wrong. and the other thing is, if you're not going to indict someone, then you don't stand up there and unload negative information about the person. that's not the way the department of justice does business. >> that seems to be the signal. >> yeah. we're just in a different
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situation here, though. i mean, you had a situation with the clinton investigation where it had been closed, they got new information, where they going to open? weren't they going to open? you're right in front of an election. very different considerations now. we have mueller going for a year and a half plus. everybody knows he's investigating. there's no secret here. it's not been closed you're not considering reopening. the public wants to know what mueller has been doing 18 months plus probably two years by the time we're done and they should know that. because whether it vindicates the president or not, people want it know that. and it will benefit the president if it lets him off the hook. >> one interesting thing, laura, you of many, was that he also was asked if he thought that the mueller probe was a witch-hunt, which we've heard time and again from president trump and he said no. and he went further. he talked about his long relationship and friendship with robert mueller and how much he respects robert mueller. and i thought that that was really good to hear because if
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you were just catering to a constituency of one, the president, you wouldn't say how long you've been friends with robert mueller and in what high regard you hold him. >> i noticed that too. he went ow his way especially with some of the democratic senators who said you've criticized mueller. he said i haven't criticized mueller. i raised two issues. he mentioned the issue of sort of more balance on the team because he thought he said to the "washington post" previously that he had noted that mueller's team had a number of democrats and he wished to see more balance. but he was very careful to say i respect bob mueller. this man say marine, i've known him for years. i mean, frankly bob mueller has been to his daughters weddings. these two know each other very, very well. the president likes to talk a lot of times about james comey being bob mueller's best friend. we know that's not true. his real friend appears to be bob mueller. this is something that barr seemed really proud of. i think he went out of his way to try to reassure everyone this
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is someone i know, this is someone i respect there is not a witch-hunt. he even said he thought it would be unimaginable to think of a scenario in which he would be fired. it would have to be so grave it would go beyond the good cause that's allowed for in the regulations. >> on the subject of transparency here, i want to put that up photo again of this filing from the mueller team in regards to paul manafort here. josh, where are the words there? it's one big redaction. >> well, so my favorite page is it starts with redaction, redaction, redaction. after lunch manafort redaction, redaction, redaction. i think they're just messing with us. looking through this filing which is obviously very lengthy, we did learn a lot yesterday as far as paul manafort and these lies that, you know, were alleged as far as even after cooperating with the government still going through lengths to deceive mueller and his team and they weren't having any of it. it will be interesting to see what additional information comes out. one particular thing i keyed on was the contacts that manafort was trying to make with the
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administration after he found himself in legal jeopardy. was he seeking pardon, what was happening? there was a footnote that said what's in that filing isn't all they know, so we'll wait and see what that happens to be. >> behind that black there is all they know and we don't know. all right, josh, jennifer, laura ar thank you very, very much. new political chaos in the united kingdom after the prime minister suffered a historic defeat of her brexit deal. will she survive a no confidence vote today? we have a live report coming up. fifteen percent or moreo on car insurance?ou did the little piggy cry wee wee wee all the way home? weeeeeee, weeeeeee weeeeeee weeeee weeeeeeee.
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teams safely evacuated 1700 people from the complex. the siege lasted 24 hours. our crew continued to hear sporadic gunfire coming from the complex even after the site was considered clear. al shabaab claimed responsibility for this attack. >> horrifying for the people in the middle of it. turmoil in the united kingdom. in just a few hours, theresa may will face a no-confidence vote this after the historic defeat of her brexit plan. we're live outside parliament in london. this was so much worse than people thought it might be going in. >> reporter: oh, john, without question. nobody was expecting the plan do that well because it's deeply unpopular. but she fought for it and she lost in a devastating blow by 230 votes. now that's the worst loss in british parliamentary history. so she's breaking all the wrong
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records. and today the prime minister is back fighting for something else, that's her position. the opposition leader jeremy corbin responded to that loss last night in the house of commons by take a vote of no confidence. let's hear what he said. >> i have now tabled a motion of no confidence in this -- and i'm pleased, i'm pleased that motion will be debated tomorrow. so this house can give its verdict on the sheer incompetence of this government and pass that motion of no confidence in the government. >> now, even though lawmakers in the prime minister's own party won't support her brexit plan at the moment, they're likely to back her in this confidence deal. so that leaves us with the questio question that all lawmakers are asking, where do we go from here
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with brexit. and the problem is unlike the united states where you have a codified written constitution, in britt tape we don't have a written constitution to hips guide our way through this brexit process. so we're starring ining into th with no idea what shape that exit will take or even if it will happen at all. alisyn. >> bianca, it is remarkable always to watch all of the ruckusness inside the union and we will be watching that. lawmakers will be at the white house today to try to find shutdown solutions. up next, we talk to a republican who was at the meeting yesterday. what solution does he propose? that's next.
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partial government shutdown is now in day 26. the white house now acknowledges that the damage being done to the economy is worse than they predicted. the white house sent ib nvitatis for lawmakers to attend a
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meeting yesterday but no democrats showed put joining us now is republican congressman brad wenstrup. he attended yesterday's meeting. thanks for being here. >> sure. >> it's not just we've heard from so many people who's own personal finances are being devastated by this but now the u.s. as a whole we know more about how it's being devastated the here's the lead in "new york times" today. this has been confirmed by the white house. the paper government shutdown is inflicting far more damage on the economy than was anticipated. they doubled their projections of how much economic growth is being lost each week the standoff with democrats continues. what is the solution today? >> well, i certainly can appreciate that, you know. when i was in my medical practice before coming here there was a time when the government didn't pay us for seeing medicare patients for three months and we had to go to the bank to borrow money to keep our practice open. so i can appreciate what's taking place today.
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one of the things i've been in favor of is allowing people to go to their retirement funds, without any penalty or tax, and be able to borrow from it until we pay them back. but that being said the real bottom line is we've got to sit down at the table. yesterday the president and i felt was very amicable. he wanted to have democrats sitting around the table. we do much better when we sit there and speak face-to-face and discuss what our priorities are. and i will tell you, he listed proposals. this is a humanitarian crisis. he's talking about adding more medical care, more personnel to take care of others. he's talking about increasing our abilities not only at the southern border but at the ports to catch drugs. if you know my district in ohio, the drug problem is huge. >> yes. and thorlts things. >> those are things the democrats and republicans agree on. you know the sticking point is the wall and there's this horrible catch 22 where democrats say we're not going to negotiate until you reopen government. there's no need for government to be closed down, let's stop
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this madness. and the president says, i'm not going to reopen government until you agree to a wall. that is where we are stuck right now. >> well, and that isn't going to change if we're doing it through you and other media outlets as opposed to sitting down at the table. look, the number that the president wants for the wall is coming as a recommendation from the subject matter experts. the border security experts down there. which, by the way think there the leader was appointed under the obama administration. this is not a partisan issue, it's trying to find what's actually going to work best to keep americans safe and secure. and i just don't mean from terrorism, i mean so that we have a robust legal immigration system and we can stop the flow of any diseases coming into our country, we can stop the flow of drugs coming into our country. >> hold on one second there because i just want to fact check you on that. diseases are not pouring into the country, that's not what this border wall situation is about. that's just not a crisis. >> no -- >> and one more thing about what you keep saying about drugs.
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as you know, the dea says that the heroin that is coming into our country and creating this scourge comes from legal ports of entry through private passenger cars and through tractor trailers. a wall won't solve that. >> will wrell, i think it will. if you read the book dreamland you will understand no one had any trouble getting in and out of our country no matter which which way they choose go. but let's sit down and have that conversation then if that's the point you want to make or someone wants to make, they can't keep doing it through you. it helps to sit down at the table and talk about it. >> understood. >> but i would invite people to come to my district, ground zero for the heroin problem in our country, and talk to the addicts. talk to the providers. talk to law enforcement. and talk to the families that have lost someone. this is a humanitarian crisis not only at the boarder but in our districts as well. >> it's horrible. >> it is absolutely horrible.
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>> my fear is that the drug addicts and their families in your district will be sorely disappointed when you build 234 more miles of a wall and the drug problem isn't solved. because heroin will still come in through the legal ports. and, by the way, the fentanyl chr crisis, which is gripping so much of the country comes via china through the mail. so i'm just afraid that you're promising that a drug problem is going to be fixed with 234 miles of new wall when that's not how it's coming in. >> well, i wouldn't be afraid of that, alisyn, because what we're talking about in the president's proposal, i can show it to you right here, he's talking about using because of border security, making the recommendations, talking about using all types of things, increased technology to detect drugs coming across. look, i have a staffer who's father owns a car wash and he could not get the little air fresher i freshners for the car because they were coming in from china and included fentanyl, yes, that's a problem.
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>> but a wall won't fix that. >> this is multifacet and we're willing to address this. >> yes. >> but you talk to the communities along our southern border that have a wall and their crime has gone way down. so it is effective. you can't say it's not effective. >> i'm just telling you fentanyl is coming in via the mail from china and a wall is not going to fix that and we're stuck on the wall. >> who's stuck on the wall? >> the president. >> the president is not talking about a wall along all our ports. the president is not talking about a wall across the entire border. >> but -- >> well, first of all he was. he's changed he's been a moving target in terms of how much wall he wants, as you know, first it was a thousand miles. >> thank you for saying that, alisyn, which tells you. >> now it's 234. >> you said he's changed his mind which tells you he's willing to negotiating. but he can't negotiate if people don't come to the table. did you negotiate a contract with cnn or did you just take a contract. did you sit down or did you have someone sit down for you? >> i can tell you that what the
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democrats that we've had on our program say they show they field up with 25 billion was the very first bipartisan effort, the president backed away from it. last month it was 1.6 billion. as you know the president then decided after hearing from ann cult t coulter and they said that weren't available to negotiate. >> less than a year ago the president was criticized dramatically and democrats said we have a full-on national emergency, and i'm quoting that, a full-on national emergency when it comes to the opioid crisis. okay. well where are they now? do they not consider it a full-on national emergency now? they said he wasn't doing enough now. this in the proposal. >> i understand that, but you know that they think that just a wall is not going to fix the opioid crisis. one last thing because i know we're both running out of time. do you think that your fellow republican congressman steve king should resign? >> well, i think the frem his district, i mean, i'm pleased
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with what we did yesterday and i'm pleased with what we did as a conference where we took him off of our committees. i think there needs to be some soul searching open what needs to be next and i'm surprised that the people of his district haven't called for him to resign. >> is there room in congress still for him? >> i don't know. i wouldn't feel very fulfilled if i was stripped of my committees because that's what you're here do is have a voice and that's been taken away from him. i think we'll see further fallout from all of this. >> congressman, we appreciate you coming and we'll be watch veg closely today. >> good to chat with you. i appreciate it. >> thanks so much. from the attorney general's hearing to fast food at the white house, the late night comics tackle it all next. what makes this simple salad the best simple salad ever? great tasting, heart-healthy california walnuts. so simple, so good. get the recipes at walnuts.org.
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to intelligence. >> william barr said today that it would be a crime for the president to offer someone a pardon in exchange for a promise not to incriminate him. and then rudy giuliani went on cnn to say, crime isn't even illegal. >> the oscar nominations don't come out until next week, but as far as i'm concerned we already have the winner for best picture. this, to me, is the best picture of the year. it looks like he's a super villain who set up i trap to capture himself. >> trump bought food from mcdonal's re-wendy's, burger king and domino's or he's calls them his four most trusted adviser in the doesn't look like a white house celebration, if looks like a divorced dad who had to figure out thanksgiving dinner for the first time. >> that is so funny. and as you or john avlon has pointed out, the abraham lincoln watching over the scene like this. >> only because he didn't have fast food. if lincoln had tried mcdonald's
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i will not be bullied into doing anything i think is wrong by anybody. >> he's writing a memo that basically would put the -- >> i was broadly encouraged by his tone. i was not encouraged by his very careful wording around specific topics. >> trump seems impervious to people's pain which is disgusting. >> the democrats priorities are way out of whack. >> we are going nowhere quick doing what we're doing. >> ayes to the right, 202. the nos to the left 432. the results of tonight's vote is the greatest defeat for a
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government since the 1920s. >> they don't want this deal, what deal will work for them? >> announcer: this is new day with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> all right. good morning, everyone. welcome to your new day. this morning two of the world's most important democracies are experiencing political chaos. here in the u.s. the longest shutdown in american history goes into day 26. and white house economists now believe the shutdown will be twice as bad for the economy as originally projected. as a result, the white house is ordering tens of thousands of federal workers back to work without pay. >> so a government shutdown here and government turmoil there. in the united kingdom they are staring at unprecedented uncertainty. theresa may is fighting for her political life a day after suffering the worst parliamentary defeat in decades over her brexit deal. we have live pictures right now of parliament. we're waiting to hear from the

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