tv CNN Newsroom With Ana Cabrera CNN January 20, 2019 2:00pm-3:00pm PST
you're live in the cnn newsroom. i'm ana cabrera in new york. it's 5:00 eastern, 2:00 in the afternoon out west. we begin with a significant admission from president trump's attorney this morning here on cnn. rudy giuliani revealed that the president may have talked with cohen about his congressional testimony. we're talking about mike come h -- cohen lying to congress. he's now going to prison because
he lied in that testimony. in it, cohen claimed that talks about a trump tower deal in moscow ended in january of 2016, months before trump won the republican nomination, when in fact, we're learning the talks lasted well into the campaign, perhaps even right up until trump won office. more on that in a moment. first, here's giuliani on those possible conversations between president trump and cohen. >> did president trump or anyone on the trump team talk to michael cohen about his congressional testimony before he gave congressional testimony or after he gave congressional testimony? >> i can tell you -- first of all, i wasn't the lawyer at the time. mike l coh michael cohen's lawyers reviewed his testimony with him. if he had any discussions with
him, they'd be about the version of the events that michael cohen gave then, which they all believe was true. i believed it was true. >> you just acknowledged that it's possible that president trump talked to michael cohen about his testimony. >> which would be perfectly normal. >> so it's possible that happened, that president trump talked to michael cohen. >> i don't know if it happened or didn't happen. it might attorney/client privilege where i can't acknowledge it. i have no knowledge he spoke to him. >> i want to get straight to cnn white house reporter sara westwood live outside the white house. that's a significant admission, to say the least, and it's not the only one giuliani made while he made his rounds on tv this morning. >> reporter: that's right, ana. president trump's personal attorney today acknowledging that those discussions about that trump tower moscow deal may have lasted throughout the entire presidential race, which would, of course, be longer than even what cohen admitted to in november when special counsel robert mueller charged him with making a false statement to congress and revealed that the moscow talks might have lasted
until at least june 2016. rudy giuliani today admitted the talks may have lasted months longer even than that, appearing on "meet the press" this morning. giuliani suggested the talks may have gone on until november and said that the president admitted as much in his written answers to mueller's office. take a listen. >> it's our understanding that they went on throughout 2016. there weren't a lot of them, but there were conversations. can't be sure the exact dates, but the president can remember having conversations with him about it. >> throughout 2016? >> yeah, probably up to -- could be up to as far as october, november. any time during that period they could have talked about it. >> reporter: now, this is significant, especially when we put it in context because in august of 2016, intelligence officials warned then-candidate trump about russian attempts to
infiltrate his presidential campaign, but if giuliani is to be believed, the moscow talks then lasted another three months after trump received that warning. and back in july 2016, president trump had denied ever having any business dealings in russia whatsoever. if giuliani is correct about the timeline, trump made that denial while the moscow talks were ongoing. here's trump in 2016. >> i can tell you i think if i came up with that, they'd say, oh, it's a conspiracy theory. it's ridiculous. i have nothing to do with russia. i don't have any jobs in russia. i'm all over the world, but we're not involved in russia. >> reporter: cohen, of course, pleaded guilty after first telling congressional investigators that those moscow talks ended in january 2016. giuliani denying that trump instructed cohen to tell that lie, but his comments today about the timeline of the trump tower moscow talks, ana, raise a lot more questions about the nature and the scope of that
russian deal. >> all right. sara westwood at the white house. thank you. i'm joined now by republican congressman adam kinsinger of illinois. thanks for being with us. >> you bet. thanks. >> now, the president's attorney is admitting that talks over this trump tower moscow probably lasted until trump won office. we put together this timeline. i want to bring it back up. if that's the case, that means trump was still negotiating a deal not only while running for president but also while telling the american people his businesses weren't involved in russia. even after being personally warned that russia may try to infiltrate his campaign. does that concern you? >> yeah, i mean, it's definitely concerning in terms of, you know, we were told in january that it ended and now we know it didn't. you know, the president can say what he wants to say. if it's not under oath, it's not impeachable. so people quick to jump on that train need to be careful.
what i've said on all this, though, is the mueller report exists for a reason. it's a report, not a reporting. we'll find out when he's completed what the accusations are, what the details are, and we can all make a decision on this. what we saw from the buzzfeed story was that when we're too quick to jump on the implications of what this stuff means, we can look pretty bad. so that's why i'm being very cautious. i will look at thin dependently when the mueller report comes out, but all these details and their implications, i just don't know until we know what mueller says. >> sure, what about giuliani's other admission there, that the president may have talked to mike the cohen about his congressional testimony, testimony during which cohen ended up lying, according to federal prosecutors? do you find that problematic? >> not necessarily. first off, he didn't say he knows he did. let's say he did. there is actually nothing illegal, from what i understand, with actually having that discussion. the accusation that would look bad if it were true is if he
told him to lie to congress. those details are not correct. >> we don't know specifically what details are incorrect. >> we don't know all the details, but for the mueller team to put out a statement, ting means it's not just something little in the buzzfeed story. it's got to be something major and problematic. a lot of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle were saying this is impeachable, it's time to impeach. i think that's what made the mueller team put out the statement like, whoa, don't get too far out there. this isn't true. >> right. again, we don't know what is or isn't true at this point, but when giuliani was pressed directly on whether the president talked to michael cohen about his testimony, he couldn't rule that out. that's why i asked you whether that's problematic and whether that's concerning. because when you say that it's not necessarily concerning on its face, help us understand where your head goes in terms of what those conversations could
have been like that would be completely, you know, innocent. >> well, so the legal implications of it is what i'm talking about. is it maybe not a smart thing to do to talk to michael cohen? probably not f t, if the presid did it. but is there a legal implication? if he's not directing michael cohen to lie, and i'm pretty convinced he didn't direct him, for the mueller team to put out that statement, then there's not necessarily, because of first amendment protections -- and when it comes to things like testimony in front of a grand jury or anything, there is protection for people to be able to have conversations. if cohen violated some kind of a plea agreement he had, that would be on him and not necessarily on the president. >> but if the president knew that cohen had lied to congress because they talked about what he was telling congress, isn't thatt that an issue? >> certainly, but we don't know that. that's why i said from the
beginning, you know, i early on said let the mueller report happen. let's see what the result is. >> i want to turn to the government shutdown. it's now day 30. president trump made an offer to democrats yesterday. he wants money for roughly 200 miles of physical barriers, more border agents, more immigration judges, money for humanitarian aid and technology. in exchange, he'd give dreamers and immigrants with temporary protected status three more years of extended protections. drrt drr democrats have already rejected this deal. what do you think of it? >> i actually think the deal is good. here's why. the president ultimately wants $25 billion for the wall. he's put $5 billion out there. he says we'll buy three years for tps and daca protections. that gives congress time, where congress should be doing this, by the way, to fix a broader immigration issue. i'm all for comprehensive immigration reform. up until about three days ago, i said both sides in this are being stuck in their corners and
nobody's talking. for the president to put this out there was a bold move. i wish it happened a few weeks ago. for the democrats just to reject it because there's a barrier this there, come back with a counterproposal that's serious then, but not one that says here's a counterproposal, but in no way will we ever talk about a barrier. this is an idiotic shutdown. the american people deserve far better from those of us that are elected to represent 750,000 people, to be adults, to be grown-ups, to understand we're not going to get our way. this is to republicans and democrats, by the way. and let's just solve this. there's a lot of people hurting right now. i think this is a pretty easily, solvable issue. >> do you understand, though, why democrats want to reopen the government first and then negotiate? they're worried this could set a dangerous precedent, a precedent you yourself might not like the next time a democrat is in the oval office. >> yeah, look, i don't like shutdowns being used as tools at all. i do think it's important to note this though. and again, up until a few days ago, i was critical of both
sides on this. for two years, the president signed spending bills that didn't have the wall money in there he'd requested. now we're at a point where there's pressure, and we have to get to a solution on this. i guarantee you if the government is just reopened without solving this, let's say for three weeks, we'll be right where we are again in three weeks because there will be no impetus to deal. i think the president put a good first salvo out there. i think what he put out in and of itself is a good compromise. but if they don't like it, if democrats don't like it, put a serious response out there, but it can't be one that says, our response is absolutely no wall money, which nancy pelosi has said. >> should republicans, though, stand up to the president? you've been talking about the people who were impacted by this government shutdown and say, let's reopen the government. let's continue negotiations. i know senator lindsey graham has suggested that. you have a three-week extension at least. isn't that the way it's supposed to work? >> yeah, i mean, it is the way it's supposed to work, but congress seems broken. it's still the best government in the world, but it's kind of
screwed up right now. if we can find a way to reopen while compelling basically an answer to this, i'm all for it. but what i worry about is -- and i want the government reopened. i voted to reopen the government multiple times. what i worry about is this takes the pressure off and then democrats say, oh, yeah, we're back to our negotiating position of absolutely no wall for the president. and when you only have one-third, in essence, of government, half of the legislature and not the presidency, you don't get to demand everything you want. they said that us to when we were fighting for defunding obamacare. i realized that we couldn't get everything we wanted when we were just one part of government either. >> but mitch mcconnell could put the vote up for people in the senate to decide whether they want to pass the spending bills you just talked about voting for in the house. ultimately, congress could do this without the president because if two-thirds of both chambers say we vote for it, that would override a presidential veto. >> yeah, it would. and that's why i voted for the
parts of -- reopening the parts of government that had nothing to do with this shutdown. there's a lot of people being held hostage that have nothing to do with this. i think now is the time to get to an answer on this. otherwise, we're going to be stuck in this morass. i guarantee you 80% of the american people would like the result of this. just the extremes on each side wouldn't. we can get this done, but we have to put on our adult pants and get out and work and make tough decisions. that's what we get paid to do. >> good point. perhaps you and your colleagues can start working on that. i hear what you're saying, but you are one of those members in congress. so good luck. i hope you lead the way. congressman, thank you for being here. a watchdog report says the trump administration likely separated thousands more children than previously reported. why they say there's no way to even know exactly just how many kids were separated.
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tomorrow. >> we can do all of that -- >> you could open the government tomorrow. the house has passed bills to open the government tomorrow. why don't you sign them and open the government, then you can negotiate about this? >> well, because -- i mean, you know, frankly, chris, what the american people want us to do is work on their priorities. the american people want us to secure the border. >> recent polls tell a different story. several polls released in the past few days show that most people blame the white house for this no end in sight shutdown and relatively few people see a wall as the best way to stop illegal immigration. some on the far right of the political spectrum did not like president trump's offer yesterday to protect some temporary protections. ann coulter tweeted she saw it as the president offering amnesty. let's get into this with former democratic congressman louis
gutierrez. also, cnn political commentator mark short. thank you both for being here. congressman, i want to start with you and one more comment from the vice president today that i want your take on. it's his assurance that the president's offer does not equate to amnesty. listen. >> it's not amnesty. we're asking for $5.7 billion for funding on a wall. >> i'm talking about the dreamers. >> the president has said that we will support temporary relief for three years for daca recipients and those who are in temporary protected status. this is not amnesty. there's no pathway to citizenship. there's no, you know, permanent status here at all, which is what amnesty contemplates. >> it's common knowledge that this white house is strongly influenced by certain high-visibility members on the far right. they're obviously not singing the same song on this offer to restart the government. what does this mean when the
preside president's biggest cheerleaders aren't on his side? >> look, when you just heard the expression of "ann i never liked an immigrant coulter", that's part of donald trump's problem. we listened to what the vice president just said. he said, oh, it's not amnesty because there's nothing permanent about this. here's what they do. they take the dreamers hostage. they have legal status in the united states under daca, the executive order of the president. what president trump does is he sends his attorney general to join legal cases so they can revoke their legal status. then through executive fiats, we're also going to make you vulnerable to deportation by revoking your legal status in the united states. then he says, tell you what i'm going to do. i'm going to give you back what i already took away. but i'm only going to give you something temporary. so look, if somebody's going to
take the dreamers hostage, if somebody's going to take the members of the tps community, haitians and central americans and africans that have temporary protective status in this country, i want to make sure they're free. so what the president offered us is what's called the bridge act, but it's a bridge to uncertainty. >> yeah, but you did have a lot of democratic senators who were co-sponsors of the bridge act back in 2017. so that's where i have to push back. you had chuck schumer, dick durbin, kamala harris who were all co-sponsors. >> you asked me my opinion. my opinion is there was an election this past november. 10 million more people took a democratic ballot and sent a message, a clear resounding message to reject the politics of donald trump. what was core and center to that election? it was donald trump's anti-immigrant, zexenophobic
policy and rhetoric. the american people rejected it. we should respect the womill of the american people. >> mark, i want you to look at the fox news headline from yesterday after the president's televised speech. we also showed you earlier what ann koulter ann coulter is tweeting. do you feel like the president caved? >> no, i don't feel like he caved at all. congressman gutierrez has been one of the dreamers' greatest advocates in congress and was a terrific champion of theirs, but let's get our history straight here. barack obama, when president, said i would issue an executive order if i could, but i know it wouldn't stand legal scrutiny to create a program out of thin air. after congress failed to give him daca, he went ahead and did that. texas courts have ruled it's unconstitutional. the reality is those who have received daca work permits are likely to have those withdrawn when this case gets to the supreme court. what donald trump is offering is not something he took away. he's offering legislation that makes it legal.
it's not simply an executive order that's going to fail in court. it actually is legislation. that's a very significant concession to democrats to try to find a pathway forward. i'm shocked the democrats aren't actually saying, you know what, the president has put forward extensions of temporry protective status, extensions of daca. it's time for us to sit down and have a conversation and reopen the government. >> congressman, fair point. >> yeah, look, it's very, very clear. first of all, let's get clear. daca and the executive order of the president that protects the 700,000 dreamers has never lost in court. let's make that real clear. is it going through a legal process? yes, it's going through a legal process. but look, if you're going to -- i say -- let me put it to you this way. the same values i have inculcated in my daughters, my american citizen daughters, are the same values that the dreamers have. they are americans in everything but a piece of paper.
you know what -- and i know that mark is going to have to agree with this. they will serve in the armed forces. they are attempting to serve in the armed forces to protect this nation, something that the president on numerous occasions has refused to do. so look, they've been through background checks. they've gone to school. they've graduated from college. they're part of our economy, right. and the american people overwhelmingly want to have a pathway to citizenship. so let's not continue this ping-pong. >> so say yes. i agree with everything the congressman said. >> if that's what you want, then free them completely so that you cannot take them hostage again. >> i think everything the congressman has said i agree with. these are people who have been in our country working. the fact they received a work permit shows they're legal, that they've been abiding by the law while in the country. so it is in our interest to protect them. that's what the president has offered. that's why it's so shocking.
>> democrats are saying let's wait and let's open the government and then let's negotiate. mark, can you see their view point, that to negotiate -- >> no, because ana -- >> let me finish for a second. what i've heard time and again from members of -- current sitting members of congress, democrats i've interviewed here on my show, is if they were to negotiate at this point, it would set a bad precedent, that the way to get your way is to hold the government hot taj. -- hostage. >> just remember, the democrats shut down the united states government because they said it didn't have daca protections. that's where we were exactly one year ago. there's a little hypocrisy here. the reality is what you didn't show in the rest of your clip on fox's interview with the vice president is he went on to say our challenges the president put on the table and said to speaker pelosi, if i open up the government for 30 days, will you negotiate with me on the wall? she said no. so it's actually democrats that put the president in a very difficult position. he's now put on the table something democrats have asked
for in daca protections and temporary protective status in exchange for funding for his wall. it's a perfectly reasonable approach. >> i just want to correct one thing you said. you said the president offered daca protections for his money. actually, it was the other way around last year. it was the democrats who said, we'll give you $25 billion for border security if you give a pathway to citizenship to daca recipients. he rejected that. there was a bipartisan plan offered to him. he shut that down. >> since i was there in the white house, let me correct you since you're trying to fact check the me. the reality was it was $25 billion, but it was not just for daca. what democrats said is it's not just daca recipients, it's daca parents. that's also those who could have applied who didn't apply. all the sudden the population became far bigger. this is a different deal. he's saying i will protect those who were in our country, who were born in our country, born to illegal parents but here working getting permits. that's a smaller population. >> congressman, you were part of
that. >> what i've always supported -- here's what i've always supported from the very, very beginning. nearly 20 years ago, a dream act. a clear path to american citizenship. what they offer is what's called the bridge act. it's a bridge to uncertainty. why don't we allow them to completely integrate themselves into our society? i want to make this clear to the american public. they haven't gone through one criminal background check by the fbi. they've gone through several criminal background checks. members of the tps, temporary protective community, they've gone through numerous background checks. they are working. they are contributing. they've shown exactly what everybody wants. they want immigrants to come here. they want they want to work hard, sweat, and toil, and to make us prosper. so why can't we make them american citizens? what is the sin? it's like a sin. it's a sin i will not commit. i won't allow them. because they have the ann
coulters and the haters of the immigrant community that they have to respond to. forget about them. listen to the will of the vast majority of the american people that want an immigration system that is sensible, that keeps us safe, but also is human and looks at those -- i say to my democrats, negotiate. negotiate. don't walk away from the table. because guess what, tonight i'm going to return to my wife. my children are going to see their dad. i don't want to say to a million people who might have a pathway to certainty, i want to make sure they can return to their families and those children can return to their moms and dads. so i want to negotiate, but i don't believe that we should say to the american public, 10 million more of them that took a democratic ballot, that rejected the xenophobic hate-filled presidency against immigrants that we're not going to listen to you. give them citizenship. give them certainty. stop holding them as hostages. >> let me read you a tweet from the president today.
he touches on this idea of a pathway to citizenship. he starts with, no, amnesty is not part of my offer. it is a three-year extension of daca. then he says amnesty will be used only on a much bigger deal, whether on immigration or something else. mark, is the president actually saying he is open to a pathway to citizenship for some immigrants? >> i don't know. i think what he's saying right now is let's protect those who have been working inside our country. i hope democrats take the ammunition of congressman gutierrez and say, yes, let's sit down at the table and negotiation. i've also heard the president say he recognizes that our country right now at 3.7% unemployment needs more workers. he actually would be supportive of a worker program that would be able to help with border security. if there's a legal pathway for people to come in and contribute to our economy, that would be a good thing. so yes, i think the president's
open to a lot of the issues that have been plaguing us. when we talk about things like the temporary protective status program, what americans need to recognize is those are people here from disasters that happened in haiti 20-some years ago. yes, to disrupt our country would be a disaster, but congress has never fixed the laws. they've never fixed the laws to say here's a limit of how long you're going to be here. >> congressman, the president seems to be laying his cards on the table. should democrats come to the table? >> yes, yes. the president, who is known for lying, right? the president who is known as being the most untruthful man to ever sit in the oval office. so let's make very clear, he will say what is ever politically expedient. he knows that he shut down the government. he shut it down. he said to speaker pelosi and to the minority leader in the senate, schumer, i own this
shutdown. i take responsibility. it's not working out for him, because you know what? this isn't the apprentice. you don't get to do do-overs. there isn't take two and take three until you get it right. he owns this shutdown. he should release the 800,000 government employees that are necessary and let their families be fed with their checks, right? let them pay their mortgages. stop destroying their credit rating and put them in fear of losing their homes. bring them back to work and let democrats and republicans work on a comprehensive deal. i think a deal can be had. democrating we democrating -- democrats were there before. remember, when dick durbin and lindsey graham went to the white house to broke aeroder a deal w they would get money for a wall and for dreamers to get certainty, what did the president say? he said, you're bringing me people from these shit hole
countries. that's what the president of the united states said about the members of the tps community and dreamer community. so look, you cannot trust this president. it has to be ironclad. yes, we don't want them taken hostage again. they are american citizens in everything but a piece of paper, and we should guarantee, given their work, gimven their enthusiasm, given their love and patriotism for this country. give them american citizenship and let's end the nightmare that they live in. >> thank you, both. i really appreciate your thoughts. >> that's a long filibuster. >> an ongoing discussion. it's an important one to have. thank you, both. a disturbing viral video of an encounter between a group of teenagers and a native american elder. we're digging deeper on this tonight. that's next. amazon prime video is now on xfinity x1.
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a viral video of a stand-off between a native american elder and catholic school teens at the lincoln memorial sparking 24 hours of outrage online. as with any viral video, there is more to this story than what you might see in a clip on twitter. i want to bring in cnn's sarah sidner, who's been digging deeper. sarah, what have you learned? >> look, when a video, as you mentioned, from a moment in time goes viral, there's often more to tell. as we are reporting this story out, we found video that started a full hour before the native american elder and catholic school students came face to face. we will show you why and how they came together and why some aren't only condemning the students' behavior but the adults around them as well.
new video emerges in a story that's gone viral between catholic school students and a native american elder named nathaniel phillips. phillips found himself surrounded by students, one staring him down, the others chanting around him as phillips says he was trying to create calm between two groups at odds. >> i realized i had put myself in a really dangerous situation, you know. it was like, here's a group of people who were angry at somebody else, and i put myself in front of that and all of a sudden i'm the one who's all that anger and all that wanting to have the freedom to just rip me apart. >> reporter: this video shows what happened long before phillips shows up. you can see a group of about five black men who identify as hebrew israelites preaching. they start taunting people of all colors, other black visitors, natives, and a catholic priest.
>> let's make america great again! a bunch of child molesters [ bleep ]! >> this is the moment that group becomes aware of the students, some wearing make america great again hats. >> you got these pompous bastards come down here in the middle of a native rally with they dirty ass hat on. >> reporter: at first, the catholic school students are there in small numbers, but more and more students begin to gather, watching with few weighing in. the small group of men continues taunting them. >> a bunch of incest babies! this is what america -- make america great looks like. >> reporter: the students begin to react but do not approach the men. the black israelites continue to condemn the kids. >> you worship blasphemy! we got angels for us! >> reporter: then one of the students takes off his shirt, and the group begins chanting.
two minutes later, you hear a drum beat. that is phillips and another native american drummer. he says it was an attempt to thwart potential violence. the kids danced to it, and some begin chanting along with the native song. but for those who think they were enjoying each other's company, phillips says that is not at all how it felt, especially because of the student standing before him. >> fear, not for myself, but fear for the next generations, fear where this country's going, fear for those youth, fear for their future, fear for their souls, their spirit, what they're going to do to this country. >> reporter: now, the covington catholic school students were in washington from kentucky, taking part in the right to life march. the catholic diocese that oversees the school has condemned the students' behavior towards nathan phillips, the elder you saw there, and native americans in general. they're investigating. but there's something very clear happening here. in the hour and a half video
that we saw, it is clear what started the tension were the black men who call themselves hebrew israelites. they were being hateful towards this group of students, and we have yet to hear from the students themselves. >> sarah sidner, thank you. held in russia, a self-proclaimed sex coach who climbs inside and claims to have inside knowledge of russian election meddling is taking from a jail in thailand and flown to moscow where she says she being detained. is the kremlin trying to keep her quiet? i don't keep track of regrets.
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seductress and sex coach from belarus who claims to have knowledge into election meddling tells cnn she's been detained by the kremlin. she says she was rounded up as soon as she landed in moscow after being deported from a jail in thailand. >> she is probably being interrogated. in particular, they're probably interested in where she has this information she claims to have. they'll probably keep her in cold storage until she produces it. >> reporter: her bizarre tale began last year when she was arrested and jailed in thailand on prostitution charges. at the time, she told cnn she believed she was being held on moscow's orders. in a bid for u.s. asylum, she said that she had previously witnessed meetings between a prominent russian oligarch with ties to vladimir putin and at least three americans whom she refused to name. >> translator: i'm ready to give you all the missing puzzle pieces, support them with videos and audio. >> reporter: but so far she has
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