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you are live in the "cnn newsroom" and i'm ryan nobles in today for ana cabrera. and we begin with major developments in the sexual abuse case against r. kelly. a judge setting the singer's bail at $1 million with conditions at today's hearing, which included sordid new details of kelly's alleged encounters with young girls. he was also ordered to turn in his passport and have no contact with his alleged victims or anyone under the age of 18. the 52-year-old faces ten counts of aggravated criminal sexual abuse, stemming from four accusers. at least three of them under the age of 17. the alleged encounters happened between 1998 to 2010. cnn's sara sidner is at the courthouse in chicago. sara, a prosecutor read graphic details of the charges against r. kelly during today's bond
hearing. what can you tell us? >> reporter: yeah, ryan, i mean, that is the nature of this case, that these details are sexually graphic. they are hard to listen to, frankly, and hard to listen to, to the folks that were in court today. we saw people's faces grimacing, we saw one of the family members of one of the alleged victims in court. she was sobbing when she came out of court. we also know that there was -- one of the alleged victims in court today. i spoke with her briefly. she was -- she had a hard time talking. she was just hoping that justice, in her words, would be done. i do want to give you just a few details, because they are graphic, and we should warn people that these details are sexually explicit. the state's attorney, she went through each victim. there are ten counts of sexually aggravated abuse that have been brought against r. kelly. four victims that they have named, each of them are now adults, but three of them were children at the time, under the age of 17, but older than 13.
she talked about one of the victims who was 24 years old at the time. she's the one victim that was not underage, according to the state's attorney. and she says that this particular victim was a hairdresser that r. kelly had gone in to get his hair braided and at one point, he unzipped his pant, exposed his genitalia, and tried to make her perform oral sex on him. there was that. she said she pushed him away. so that is one of the allegations. there are three others, some of the women saying that he slapped them, spit on them, we know that there is a videotape that has been handed over to prosecutors by attorney michael avenatti who was here in court with some of his clients. he says he now represents six clients, including one of the alleged victims that is named in the indictment. there were a lot of graphic details that i won't share with you, because they just are not appropriate for an audience who would not be ready to listen to that. but people in court had to go through and listen to this.
r. kelly has maintained his innocence through his attorney, his attorney being very clear that his client is innocent until proven guilty and he did mention that in 2008, he did go to trial on 14 different counts, 14 counts of child pornography and he was acquitted in that trial. in that trial, as well, there was a videotape that prosecutors said showed an underaged girl and r. kelly having sex, but the jury could not positively identify either on that tape and ended up in an acquittal. ryan? >> all right, sara sidner, thank you very much, reporting from chicago. turning now to our other breaking news, we now have our hands on the redacted sentencing memo for paul manafort from special counsel robert mueller's office. and even though parts of the memo were still -- were not made public, it is still stunning. prosecutors outline what they say is the former trump campaign manager's, quote, wide-ranging deceit. they call his criminal actions bold and they want to make sure that he never walks again as a free man. joining me now, cnn's senior
justice correspondent, evan perez, and cnn contributor, garrett graf. first, evan, walk us through what we've learned from this memo. >> ryan, as you said, this is a pretty hardened set of facts here, according to the special counsel. they say that manafort essentially, he had a hardened adherence to committing crimes and a lack of remorse. keep in mind that the two crimes to which he pleaded guilty here in the district of columbia have a ten-year maximum. what they're asking for is for the judge here to essentially stack that on top of whatever manafort gets in his other case, which is a case across the river in alexandria, virginia, where a judge is waiting to sentence him there. and there the special counsel has asked for as much as 24 1/2 years in prison. so as you said, they're asking for paul manafort never to walk free again, essentially, because as they say, he has been lying, he has been lying to everybody
from members of congress to members of the special counsel, the grand jury, as well as people connected to the administration. they say that he has had this pattern of deceit over many, many years. and so that's why they say, essentially, throw the book at paul manafort. >> all right, garrett, let's go to you now. given the language in this memo, from your perspective, what does this signal about manafort's fate? >> well, it's evan said, it seems very clear that manafort is facing a very long sentence. i mean, one of the sentences that really stands out is the government says that it is unable to locate a comparable case in modern judicial stwree so much criminality and so many aggravating factors. that these crimes continued during the time that manafort was the chairman of the trump campaign and then continued after the indictment.
remember, paul manafort has been indicted for witness tampering as part of all of this. you know, for activities after he was originally indicted. and i think this speaks to a larger question that is worth taking this step back and thinking about the state of the mueller investigation, which is, you know, we've been sort of all geared up over last week, waiting for this big, final report to drop, but what you can lose sight of is just how much activity bob mueller has already uncovered. that even if bob mueller doesn't file a single additional indictment, his investigation will have proven to be one of the most informative and interesting and large-scale counterintelligence investigations in american history. and that the trump campaign will have already been the most corrupt and criminal presidential campaign in american history. and i think that that's a really important fact to settle on and
think about as we await whatever the final stage of the mueller investigation turns out to be. >> evan, garrett raises a good point about how there's been a lot that robert mueller has accomplished, but in the eyes of president trump and his supporters, it probably doesn't matter at all if he's not able to link something directly to the president himself. >> right. and that's what's missing from this 800 pages or so of this court filing that has been filed today or has been revealed today by the special counsel. i think, look, one of the things that we were looking for is, if there is this sort of overarching narrative that andrew wiseman, the lead prosecutor in this case, has sort of explaining -- as he has hinted before, by the way, he has hinted that there is this evidence that indicates that there is this evidence between the russians, konstantin kilimnik, a business partner of paul manafort, and who according to the special counsel, is a
russian spy, and paul manafort and the terrain, that there's this overarching conspiracy, then they did not put it in this court filing. it may still be something that they put in the final mueller memo that goes to the attorney general, but that is not what is in here today. and i think for -- if you're the president's legal team, if you're people close to the president, supporters of the president, i think that's a great relief, because, again, you can go out to the rooftops and scream, "still no collusion," right? and as garrett said, that does sort of overshadow the fact that there is, there has been a lot done here by the mueller investigation. there is just the number of people who have been charged, the number of people who have pleaded guilty. there's still a few people who have yet to be sentenced. so this has been a very, very thorough investigation, but, again, if you are close to the president and you are trying to essentially make the point that there was no collusion, i think
that that's still the case here. you can still make that argument, simply because the special counsel has not made that in these court filings. >> and so, garrett, quickly, to you. i guess that's the difference between a legal argument and legal success versus a political argument and political success, right? certainly, robert mueller's accomplished a lot, but this really does come down to politics, especially when it comes to president trump. >> right. yeah, and one of the things that, you know, i think evan was sort of heading towards here is the sheer amount of unrelated criminality that was going on in the midst of the trump campaign. i mean, remember, this is paul manafort acting during this time as the campaign chairman, continuing this vast money-laundering bank scheme, tax fraud scheme, at the same time as you have michael flynn, the campaign's national security adviser, working his own unrelated criminal schemes regarding the government of turkey as an unregistered foreign agent for the government
of turkey, at the same time that michael cohen, the president's personal lawyer and his personal fixer is engaged not just in his own personal bank fraud and tax fraud schemes, but also involved in this campaign finance scheme, involving the hush money payments to stormy daniels and others that does name president trump as an unindicted co-conspirator, as individual number one. so part of what is just so fascinating about this is even before you get to the collusion question, almost everyone involved is involved in their own sets of crimes. >> that's true. and we're going to see a lot of michael cohen next week when he is on capitol hill. evan perez, garrett graf, thank you guys so much. we appreciate it. still to come, tanks, tear gas, and riot police. the political crisis in venezuela reaches a tipping point. we are live on the border.
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news right now in south america. police and border guards from venezuela today face to face with protesters furious at the worsening situation there. the political upheaval, the lack of food and medicine, and the holdup of aid supply stacked up on the borders, ready to help people inside venezuela. at one point today, border troops fired tear gas to try to disperse the protesters who threw rocks and bottles. inside venezuela, similar scenes as angry protesters clashed with riot police. all of this happening as venezuela's embattled president cut ties with colombia, throwing out its diplomats. the candidates for president in the united states are certainly taking notice of this crisis. california senator kamala harris spoke to reporters today in iowa. >> i don't believe, at this point, that military force is required, but there's no
question that what has happened in venezuela presents issues f h human rights abuses and abuses of government and there have been incredible violence. people are being jailed for political purposes. and so we need to take it very seriously. >> and this today from senator bernie sanders. quote, the people of venezuela are enduring a serious humanitarian crisis. the maduro government must put the needs of its people first, allow humanitarian aid into the country and refrain from violence against protesters. cnn's nick paton walsh is on the border right now, isa soares is in caracas. nic, we saw you and your crew in the middle of complete chaos earlier today. explain the situation right now. >> it's significantly calmer, but bizarrely, we still hear the regular firing of tear gas. you can hear it now down there on the other side of the bridge. that's because the protesters trying to get across found more luck going under the bridge,
across the river, trying to get to the venezuelan side proper. and there are intermittent clashes on the bridge down here. although strangely, a venezuelan singer who fled the country called nacho just caused pandemonium when he got on and said everyone should rest. the chaos still persists. that is being replicated in two other points along the border. to the extent that john bolton, the u.s. national security adviser, and very much the loudest beater of the drum against nicolas maduro within the white house has tweeted that it's quite clear today that the maduro government, i'm paraphrasing here, treats its civilians, shoots them with live rounds, prevents humanitarian aid from being across the border with tear gas and those who back nicolas maduro should be careful about who they choose to support, going on in a further tweet to suggest that maybe more sanctions and isolation in venezuela as a result of what
we've seen behind us here. make no mistake, though, this was a moment in which the opposition chose, juan guaido, the self-declared president and interim leader of them coming into venezuela, rarely breaking a travel ban into an aid concert tomorrow, part of the aid attempt deliveries today. and they were absolutely clear, they wanted that humanitarian aid to cross regardless of what venezuela's security forces would do. and they wanted clear instructions to keep that from occurring. we've seen these clashes today. they started when an aid convoy walked forward all in blue, met the line of riot police, a scuffle broke out, tear gas was fired, and rocks thrown back and forth in the hours over the past. but now the net impulse has been for maduro to break relations with colombia. we have to see what steps the u.s. practically takes in the days and hours ahead. back to you. >> thank you for that. let's now go into venezuela and caracas where isa is standing by. far from the violence at the colombian border, but you are at
the heart of this crisis where the venezuelan president today made a military threat against the united states. can you tell us what's happening there now? >> absolutely, ryan. we saw juan guaido supporters take to the streets earlier today, making their way to army barracks, heeding the call of juan guaido. but a few hours later, we also heard from nicholaolas maduro w spoke to a loud crowd, and before he started speaking, he danced. he danced on stage while rubber bullets and while gas was being thrown, tear gas was being thrown. where nick paton walsh is and where so many other venezuelans are to try to bring that aid in, to try to contrast the image. and then he threw many, many attacks, not just at juan guaido, calling him a clown, saying he's a puppet of imperialism, of the u.s. government. he then had this to say about whether, if he's threatened, this is what he's going to do. take a listen, ryan.
>> translator: this is an order. an order for the military. if any day you wake up with the news that something has happened to nicolas maduro, go to the streets to make a revolution. >> he also, as he was saying that and throwing attacks sat juan guaido, as well as the u.s. government, he -- the crowd was chanting, ryan, lock him up, referring to juan guaido. the question, though, becomes, is juan guaido going to make his way back to caracas? and if he does, what will happen to him? in terms of rhetoric thrown at the united states, it's pretty much what you have heard throughout hashtag, they've been using hands-off venezuela, yankees go home, and obviously, what we have heard from maduro, that he sympathizes with colombia. i've been in contact with the government of colombia and they told me they don't recognize the
legitimacy of nicolas maduro, and therefore, they have no ties. so now the question remains, what other pressure is the international community, including the u.s. have, to try to asphyxiate the government of nicolas maduro. >> issa suarez in venezuela right now. nick paton walsh on the border with colombia with venezuela, both covering this growing crisis in those two countries. thank you, both. please stay safe and your crews, as well. we appreciate your excellent reporting. coming up, the billionaire owner of the new england patriots caught up in a sting, accused of soliciting sex from prostitutes. plus, president trump's fixation on the democratic primary. new reporting on how he plans to cause chaos and sew division among his rivals. mismatched soc, spilled coffee on my shirt. then i get there, and my laptop dies. but somehow... i nailed the presentation. i loved that feeling. at country inn & suites by radisson,
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the billionaire owner of the super bowl champion new england patriots is facing charges of soliciting prostitution and is expected to be officially charged by prosecutors as soon as monday. police say video footage shows robert kraft receiving, quote, paid acts at the orchids of asia day spa in central florida. he was nabbed in a massive human trafficking sting. his spokesperson says, quote, we categorically deny that mr. kraft engaged in any illegal activity. just three weeks ago, kraft and the patriots were celebrating their super bowl victory and sixth nfl championship title. let's get right now to cnn's polo sandoval. he is in jupiter, florida. polo, you spoke to police there. what happens next in this investigation? >> reporter: yeah, ryan, not only hearing from investigators,
but also stating outside what is likely perhaps one of the most photographed day salons in the entire country, not just news cameras, but people have been stopping by the spa you see behind me and believe it or not taking photographs skpe s and s outside of this location. made for a humorous scene at times. certainly, the charges are nothing to laugh about here. investigators saying this was part of a massive sex trafficking sting that went over for several months here. what we should mention is that authorities say this spa was visited at least two times by robert kraft as he sought what police were describing are these paid acts. investigators saying that they have on camera inside one of the rooms of this facility. of course, these are allegations that kraft through a spokesperson continues to deny here. when you hear from some of the people here in jupiter, some of the people i've had an opportunity to speak to, ryan, they tell me they're certainly not surprised that this location was busted. just one of several in and around the area, but they are
certainly shocked to hear that robert kraft is finding himself among the list of about 190 so-called johns. take a drive about 190 miles north of here, patriots country, hearing from people in boston, as you're about to hear, there's certainly a mix of shock and disbelief, but also a bit of indifference coming from folks in boston. take a listen. >> very surprised, a guy that's worth billions of dollars goes to a strip mall to purchase prostitution. seems a little odd to me. >> i don't think it's great, but at the same time, he's not married, so -- and it's none of my business. >> he's such a class guy, has done such a great job for new england, patriots, all of new england, so i'm sad. i'm sad. i hope it works out that maybe the -- maybe they were wrong and it was a mistake, but i support the man. and i support what he's done for new england. >> and now the question remains of when or even if robert kraft will end up in custody to face
that misdemeanor charge that we've heard about, those two count of solicitation. at this point, ryan, we're told that investigators will take up this case again on monday and then we'll potential come out find monday whether or not that will actually happen, ryan. certainly will be a case to watch in the next 48 hours. >> no doubt about that, polo sandoval live in jupiter, florida. let's talk more about this now. let's bring in christine brennan, she's also a cnn sports angles. christine, you saw this video, just three weeks ago, robert kraft celebrating the patriots' historic super bowl victory. he was the toast of boston. he's been the toast of boston for quite some time. now facing charges of soliciting sex with prostitutes. from your view, what's the potential impact of this scandal for the patriots' team and from those die-hard boston pats fans that we just heard from? >> well, in this case, ryan, robert kraft's reputation, of course, has been sterling, especially to those patriots
fans. but he is one of the most visible owners not just in the nfl, but also in sports. and for him to now be involved in something like this, allegations at this point only, but especially the part about human trafficking, if that turns out to be true and if he, in fact, was involved in this, again, we'll find out all the answers to that, then, i think it's an inreparable hit to his reputation. a man so high-profile, seeking the limelight. there are owner who is kind of want to be in the shadows. not robert kraft. he is out there front and center, which means that when you're at that lofty perch, the only place you can go if there's a situation like this, is you plummet. and he has -- he could fall very, very hard. and i think his reputation will be harmed forever, assuming that we find out that he was involved in some way in this. >> and we've seen not exactly this particular instance, but we've seen examples in the past of very high-profile, very wealthy sports owners who have found themselves in the middle of controversy.
you think of the owner of the los angeles clippers who was forced out by the league. of course, the former owner of the california panthers also had issues that forced him out of the league. you know, how much can roger goodell in the nfl do in terms of putting pressure on robert kraft in this situation? obviously, they're probably going to allow some time to figure out exactly what the legal case is against him. but could there be a scenario where they force robert kraft to sell the new england patriots? >> well, they could force him to step aside. he may also decide -- robert kraft's a smart man, 77 years old, he's been around a while. whatever this is is clearly not smart, if he did it. but he could decide to step aside and have a family member run the team for a while. it's extraordinary to actually force an owner to sell his team. it happened in the nba, donald sterling, the nfl, jerry richardson just last year. normally we'll see a suspension and a fine for the owner. i'm sure a lot of people say,
suspension from what? the shrimp in the owner's seat. six-game suspension, half-million dollar fine, which is a slap on the wrist to pa billionaire, but it is also the ig nanmie that that brings. they have the personal conduct policy not just for the players, but for the owners as well. >> and you kind of alluded to this, the fact there may be more to this story than just robert kraft soliciting prostitution a couple of times at a random strip mall in florida. if this is part of a wider operation, a human trafficking operation where women were brought there against their will, is that a much different situation than just a misdemeanor charge for robert kraft? and could that be where he finds himself in real trouble? >> ryan, i think it is. if the human trafficking element to this story, which is incredibly troubling for alleged victims. and obviously, we're focusing on robert kraft and the sports side of this story, but let's not
forget those people. if that is true, this takes it to a whole another level. because the national football league has been so concerned about domestic violence, and the fact that you have a domestic violence -- someone who was caught on tape just two months ago, now is already back in the nfl. these are issues that are very important to them, to the owners, and to the fan base and especially to women in 2019, men as well, hopefully. that would be a devastating blow. if human trafficking is involved and roger -- robert kraft knew about that, ryan, that would probably be a devastating blow and maybe the end of robert kraft in the national football league. >> still a lot we have to learn about this particular situation. christine brennan, as always, your insight is very valuable. thank you so much for being here. coming up, the president's new favorite reality show, the 2020 campaign, he's tuning into all the rallies and town halls, he's looking to play an active role in the democratic primary. remember, he's a republican. we'll show you how. and democratic presidential candidate amy klobuchar battling
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could potential influence the race. as you said, candidates are fanned out across iowa, as well as south carolina, and new hampshire this weekend. i am at a town hall that's about to start for julian castro, the former san antonio mayor. but the president keeping a careful eye with one thing in mind. he wants to have a hand in his ultimate opponent. one presidential candidate is following the democratic primary fight far closer than you might imagine. his name is donald j. trump. >> bernie sanders is running, yeah, that's right. personally, i think he missed his time. >> they'll say, they know o'rourke, that's his last name, right? >> reporter: i'm not impressed with their group. >> the president is not only watching the democratic race, praising kamala harris' crowds and amy klobuchar's ability to connect with voters. he's already working to brand democrats as too extreme, seizing on bernie sanders'
announcement this week to fire up his own supporters. >> america will never be a socialist country. >> the president has directed his team to sew divisions among democratic rivals, cnn has learned, and find opportunities to cause chaos from the left and right. in the words of one adviser, never mind, the first votes are one year away. trump is increasingly fixated on the race, both in private conversations and in public. >> i guess they're looking at 2020. they think, gee, if we could hurt trump, we'll have a better chance at winning an election. >> one top republican who talks to trump frequently tells cnn, the president wants to get in the game. at the white house, he's holding regular meetings with a small circle of advisers, led by his 2020 campaign manager, brad pascual. a power struggle has already emerged between the re-election campaign and those who helped him win the white house in 2016. corey lewandowski and david bossie, two central figures in the first campaign, were not invited to a meeting on tuesday, with a wide-open democratic contest where the ultimate
nominee is a guessing game, they're trying to make it anything but a referendum on him. >> it's a radical left. >> yet it's democrats in the middle who worry trump more. >> he ran two or three times, never got above 1%. and obama came along and took him off the trash heap, then he became a vice president, and now he's probably leading. >> so as you can see there, the president paying very careful attention to this democratic primary. of course, democrats are as well. ryan, as we travel across the state of iowa, as well as other early voting states, one thing is clear, democrats don't know which candidate they want. they're in a shopping season now, if you will, asking questions of these candidates, trying to get the sense of them, but they do know they want to find someone who can defeat the president. and the president, of course, is lookinging for someone easier to run against. no answer to those questions yet, but we are less than a year away from those first votes happening here in iowa as well
as other states. so a very crowded season. again, we'll see if the end of the month, if joe biden is jumping in, if beto o'rourke is jumping in and others, ryan. but already activity, a lot of it, on both sides. ryan? >> no doubt, jeff . if they are shopping, they have lots to choose from. >> indeed. >> let's talk more about this now wl cnn's senior political analyst and senior editor for t the republic, ron brownstein. >> the goal of every president who has been under 50% in approval, the mantra for all of them has been, my re-election is going to be a choice, not a referendum. they want to shift the focus more to the other side. and ryan, i can tell you through history, very little movement in that direction. re-election campaigns are overwhelmingly a referendum.
first, second, and third. and he will -- i spent a lot of time focusing on the democrats, but the key number to watch in terms of donald trump will be his approval rating both nationally and in the key states. because absent some very remarkable kind of alternative, voters really do view this primarily as a referendum and it's hard for an incumbent president to run very far ahead of his approval rating. and we saw in gallup this week where he is in some of those key states he won in 2016 down in the low 40s. that's a big hill to climb just by trying to disqualify the other side. >> a lot of analysts saying if the race were run today based on those numbers, it would be difficult for the president to win re-election. our sources are telling cnn that the democratic candidates include senator elizabeth warren. he's worried about her, despite his frequent name calling of her. he's got vice president vice president joe biden. he's called him weak. vice president sherrod brown, he's not even officially in the race yet. senator kamala harris, he's been
impressed by her crowd sizes. and then amy klobuchar, because he's impressed with how she connects with voters. notably not on this list, bernie sanders, who just raised $6 billion. of these candidate, who do you think is the biggest threat to donald trump? >> you have people who basically believe, there are three kind of brackets developing in the democratic field. a candidate who will primarily field to white upscale liberals. that's a combination above all between warren and bernie sanders. a candidate who is more towards moderate, older, and bad luck voters, especially in the middle of the country, and biden, klobuch klobuchar, and brown are in that kind of lane. and a candidate who will emerge as the biggest favorite of voters of color. and cam hkamala harris is proba considered the leader in that field. so he's got the right -- you know, in some ways, he has the right alignment of the democratic choices in 2020. and i do think that, look, i
mean, which is the biggest threat? there are two theories about how democrats win. one is trying to win back some of those bad lulue collar voter moved, and that's something that brown or klobuchar or biden would be strongest at. the other theory is that they win by mobilizing the younger or non-white voters that are the most alienated from trump and show disapprovals of 75% or higher in polls. there you see someone like sanders or booker or beto o'rourke if he runs. there are two completely different theories. i'm not sure one is empirically better than the others. >> quickly, i want to talk about amy klobuchar and this new "new york times" story out that talks about her relationship with her staff. they spoke to former aide who is recounted a story of a staff member who brought klobuchar a salad to eat on a plane, but actually lost his fork on the way to delivering the salad, and this is what the article says. what happened next was typical, miss klobuchar berated her aide instantly for the slip-up.
what happened after, that was not. she pulled a comb from her bag and began eating the salad with it, according to four people familiar with the episode. then she handed the comb to her staff member with the directive, clean it. ron, there are a lot of politicians, prominent politicians who are tough on their staffs. are these stories about amy klobuchar any different than what we have heard about bill clinton, other famous and very successful politicians who had a very difficult relationship with the people that worked under them? >> i don't think so. i mean, i kept debating whether we were going to call this forkgate or combgate. you know, which end of the story. look, i do not think this will be the dispositive factor in whether she emerges as a serious candidate or not. you don't want to start your campaign in this way, and it does seem as though some of this behavior was pretty extreme. but as you note, there have been other candidates, bill clinton certainly was known for his rages at staff. i think the questions voters ask is, are you going to make my life better, reflect my values.
and certainly for democrats, are you a good bet to beat donald trump? and i think amy klobuchar, like everyone else, is going to be judged primarily on those attributes. not that this is insequenti inconsequential, but very unlikely to be a decisive factor. >> ron brownstein, as always, terrific analysis. thank you for being on, my friend. have a great rest of your day. >> thanks for having me. >> tune in at 8:00 a.m. eastern tomorrow morning, that's when cnn's john king interviews kamala harris for a special edition of inside politics live from iowa. and breaking news, live pictures right now of an area where a boeing 767 cargo plane crashed near houston. we have new details ahead, live in the "cnn newsroom." was ahead of its time. still, we never stopped making it stronger. faster. smarter.
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we have some breaking news into cnn right now. an faa official tells cnn that a boeing 767 cargo plane operating for amazon prime air has crashed while on approach to houston's bush intercontinental airport. the plane was flying from miami international with three crew members aboard. there's no word if there are any survivors. after losing contact with the plane, air traffic controllers asked other pilots if they could see it. >> see if you can make ground contact. we're looking for a lost aircraft, at your 1:00 in two miles. it's a heavy boeing 767. >> air shuttle 6090, no ground contact from here. >> shuttle 6090, see if you can
make ground contact. we're looking for a heavy boeing 767 at 11:00 in about seven miles. >> roger. >> the ntsb this hour is sending a go team to the scene. joining us now is mary schiavo. she served as the inspector general at the transportation department. we're told this is a cargo plane, but it is a 767, which can be a passenger plane if adapted properly. what are the differences between the cargo model of a plane like this and a passenger airline? >> well, actually, not a lot of differences. obviously, all the seats are out and they have cargo pallets put in the plane. but 767 has been a workhorse, both in passenger service in years past. they're being phased out now and most airlines don't have them in passenger service. and in cargo service, they're really tough plane and they have been around for three decades. good plane. >> so there was no distress call. it appears that air traffic controllerers just lost sight of
the plane. how worrying would that be? >> well, it's pretty worrying, of course, because we only have a few clues. from flight radar, there was a clue that both the altitude, the air speed, and the altitude had an upset event about the same time. so something disrupted air flow through the engines over the wings and their altitude was affected. really, about the same time, that could be anything. could be precipitation, a gust of wind, could be a problem with the engines. there's so many things that could cause that. but we do know they had a problem in flight, some kind of a mechanical, and they didn't have time to get off a payday call. and looking at the flight radar, says they were fighting to save that plane and simply didn't have time to get a distress call out. >> so what will be the first things that investigators will be looking for and looking at as they begin this look into exactly what happened here? >> well, they're fanning out. one of the things they're
obviously going to do first and foremost is try to secure those black boxes. that will tell what happened. black boxes have evolved over the decades and they're so good now and record so many parameters of what's going on with the aircraft that that will tell them, give a precipitation report and some kind of an upset event. they'll obviously be looking at all of the radar and then looking at that cargo manifest. given it's a cargo plane, they want to know what's in the hold. could something have caught fire or exploded? could there be some problem with the cargo that this plane was hauling. they'll be looking on the maintenance records and the cargo records and make sure everything aboard would have been aboard. >> we should point out, three crew members onboard that plane, we do not know if there were any survivors. this plane crashing just outside houston, texas. mary, as always, thank you for being here. and we will be right back. stay here. ♪ tear up ticket. find the cat. [ meowing ] mittens! make it rain. [ cheering ]
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you are in the "cnn newsroom." i'm ryan nobles in today for ana cabrera and we are live in new york. we begin with breaking news. disturbing new details of sex abuse charges against r. kelly laid out during a dramatic court hearing earlier this afternoon. meanwhile, we're waiting to see if the singer is able to post the $1 million bond set during that hearing. kelly would need to come up with $100,000 of it to be released. the judge also setting several conditions for kelly. he was ordered to turn in his passport and have no contact with his alleged victims or anyone under the age of 18. the 52-year-old kelly faces ten counts of aggravated sexual abuse. prosecutors claim he abused one woman and three underaged girls over a span of 12 years. cnn's sara sidner is at the courthouse in chicago. sara, a prosecutor read sordid details of what they say kelly