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rule of la you. >> i cooperate all the time. no collusion, it's all a hoax. i'm not running, but i'm going to keep standing up for what i believe. >> i believe not only can i beat donald trump but that i can get stuff done. >> we're ready for progressive candidates. >> we really need to try to think outside the box. >> announcer: this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> good morning, everyone, welcome to your "new day." new this morning, the white house is firing back after house democrats have launched this sweeping investigation into nearly every aspect of president trump's world. the probe is taking on allegations of corruption, obstruction of justice and abuse of power. the house judiciary committee sent letters and document requests to 81 people an entities, including the white house, campaign staffers, the justice department, even the president's sons. the white house is blasting this sweeping probe as, quote, dis graceful and abusive an calling it nothing more than a fishing expedition. new this morning the "wall street journal" reports that a lawyer for michael cohen
approached president trump's attorneys and raised the possibility of a pardon after cohen was raided by the fbi last year. what's unclear at this point is whether michael cohen knew about it. remember, cohen said just last week under oath that he never asked for nor would he accept a pardon from president trump. joining us now mary katherine ham a cnn political commentator, david gregory and jeffrey toobin a former federal prosecutor and cnn's chief legal analyst who brought his glasses today. twitter had a lot to say. >> i know, i was flattered that anyone noticed. glasses are back. >> glasses are back. here is some breaking news or breaking news sound and that's ty cobb who was the white house lawyer in charge of handling the mueller investigation has done an interview with abc news and he had remarkable praise for robert mueller. i want you to listen to this. >> i think bob mueller isnown ha prosecutor and a friend and i think -- i think the world of bob mueller.
he is -- he is a very deliberate guy. but he's also a class act and a very justice-oriented person. >> he also said, jeffrey, no et blee and declareh is very different than from the president says. >> you know, there has been a major sea change since ty cobb left and emmet flood came in. emmet flood brought with him the williams and connelly mentality which is total war, title fighting all the time. rudy giuliani came in around the tie that ty cobb left. there has been a complete 180 in the white house in how to deal with mueller. that's the old view, which is try to cooperate, get it behind you, don't pay undue attention to it, and total warfare, that's where we are now. >> david gregory, as you have probably heard over the past 24 hours there is now a talking point among president trump's supporters that this is a
fishing expedition. you keep hearing that word. i will read to you what sarah sanders says about it. chairman nadler and his fellow democrats have embarked on this fishing expedition because they are terrified that their russia collusion is drum crumbling. that ignores all of the different bits of evidence that have come up over the past three yurs that jerry nadler among others say they must follow in terms of abuses of power, but do you feel that the republi repub that there's some legitimacy to that talking point? >> absolutely. because they may be proven right, there's no question that how broad this request is for all of these subpoenas in so many different directions of investigation of president trump and those in his orbit is incredibly broad, plays right into trump's hand saying, wait a minute, i thought collusion was the thing, no he be has brought any evidence yet of collusion that ties him, and they will continue to make that political argument. a couple things can be true at
the same time. this can be really broad, this can be the result of elections that put democrats in power who now are trying to play catch up on congressional oversight, and the investigation itself can be the thing. you know, democrats could say, look, there's a lot to investigate here, and there is, there's a lot of questions, and maybe they never get to impeachment. maybe the point is to have a michael cohen show over and over and over again to raise questions about what the president has done, what the president is hiding and see if in a public airing there's some truth that is arrive at. >> mary katherine ham, it's not as if republicans when they controlled the house and there was a democrat in the white house, it's not as if they didn't launch many investigations and used their oversight power, you know, with gust stowe. >> yeah, elections have consequences and oversight is within their purview. some of this stuff can be totally legit, but with all eras of congress and investigations and on slauts of investigations there is a political calculation
in how much the american public can take of a two-year michael cohen show, for instance. and whether that would be convincing to them, that they should go with your team in the next election, which i think is what democrats are -- that's the ultimate end here. look, i do think there is a shift not just from the ty cobb era to the current era in the trump white house, but there is a shift among democrats in the rhetoric about mueller which is he is the gold standard, we're going to wait for all of this to come out, on collusion this is going to be the end game, this is the answer, right? whatever he tells us is important. and now we get, well, we already have evidence of a obstruction of justice according to nadler, it's a done deal any way and now we're going to do two more years of investigation. i think they do risk looking like the goal posts are moving because it looks like the goal posts are moving. >> but when you consider that michael cohen said for the first time, by the way, we committed bank fraud and insurance fraud, that no one knew by submitting
false financial statements to banks and insurance companies, you can hardly criticize the democrats for saying, wow, maybe we should look into whether there's bank fraud and insurance fraud since no one knew that before. >> right, and you have republicans who ran congress who were not interested in asking any of these questions, who were not interested in any kind of oversight which is part of a general pattern of even when they would say softly that they thought the president was off the reservation, they didn't do anything about it. so democrats are going to do that, they're going to assert it and it's also a hedge. if you have an incoming attorney general who says i don't know if the mueller report will see the light of day, i will have to follow procedures and we will have to see what's in the country's interest, then the democrats have a right to stand up and say, wait a minute, i seem to remember the standard of republicans when they were in an oversight capacity on benghazi or lots of other things going back to the clinton administration where everything got an airing. everything was legitimate. so we're going to do that, too. i think mary is right, mary katharine is right, that the request he is how the public absorbs ought of this because i
do think the president is potentially strengthened by all of this, by it being overly broad, by looking like democrats are simply after the president, it will depend what they find and ultimately this is why mueller is so important, what he finds. >> mary katharine, i mean, do you see this as just tit for tat, well, republicans did this and now democrats run the house and they can do this, or do you see it as jeffrey pointed out that new things are coming to light. not just michael cohen, there's the jared security clearance, abuses of power. new things are coming to light. what do you want democrats to do, sit on their hands when these things are revealed? >> it's sounds big lebowski, new things have come to light. i think that is part of it and that can be a legitimate part of it, but, for instance, when you're talking about nadler you're talking with werner who was part of the senate intelligence committee investigation who was doing things the right way, both are talking about things that mueller has covered. mueller has all the information. he has, i think, better information than they're going to have and it makes me wonder
what the point of all this is or what the point of the mueller investigation was and why we had to protect it so fiercely which i was on board for if, in fact, they think they already have all the goods on this and they are going to do a different investigation if the answer from mueller, it seems, might not be the one they wanted. that is what that reads like, not the other stuff, that could be a separate issue, but on the issue of collusion, yes, that is what that looks like, it looks like goal post moving. >> but if the mueller report doesn't come out and we don't know what mueller -- >> then why did we pay for that sucker? >> well, that's a good question. but you can hardly blame the democrats if bob barr refuses to let the mueller report see the light of day. >> i don't think we've seen a ton of indication of that. >> we will see. >> we don't have an indication that he's going to send it all to congress in the public interest. the truth is that democrats don't know. if we look at it a slightly different way, when we have revelations, alisyn, to your point whether it's security clearances or other aspects that may or may not be part of
mueller purview, when we hear from michael cohen there's ongoing investigations in the southern district that's outside mueller purview, does democrats ignore that? should they say four things to investigate is fine but we shouldn't do six because that would be unseamly, but if there are six then they should push hard. the which will krms and conley playbook was one used by, oh, yeah, bill clinton, too, who had david kendall, a williams and conley lawyer who fought the same kind of fight that this president is fighting now against impeachment and they did it to very good effect by the way politically which is the page i think the president and his team have taken here. >> can i raise a new issue brought up in the "wall street journal" overnight which is the journal reports that lawyers for michael cohen approached the president's personal attorneys to discuss the issue of a pardon. do we have a clip from this to throw up on the screen? it says mr. ryan, steven ryan who was at that point michael
cohen's attorney left the impression that if mr. cohen couldn't rely on a pardon he might cooperate with prosecutors from the manhattan u.s. attorney's office investigating mr. cohen. now, jeffrey -- >> which is what happened. >> right. which is what happened. let me play you what michael cohen had to say about the issue of pardons in the hearing last week. >> i have never asked for nor would i accept a pardon from president trump. >> now, there might be wiggle room here, the with a you will street journal notes in the article that it's not clear whether michael cohen asked his attorney to ask about a pardon or whether the attorney was freelancing there, but how do you see this overall pardon issue? >> if you are an attorney for michael cohen, you are doing your job by trying to get him a pardon. i mean, he was close enough to the president, the president has shown through pardoning joe arpaio, through pardoning da niche d'souza that he uses the pardoning pardon to help out his friends. it's not surprising they went
out there to try to get a pardon, i don't think it's inappropriate. i don't really think it makes cohen to be a liar. it's not clear what he knew about that, but, remember, michael cohen's attitude about everything trump related has changed dramatically in the last few months. >> mary katharine, isn't that called standard operating procedure? first you see if you get a pardon? >> yeah, it seems fine to me and seems like trump has been open to these things and it's sort of amusing that trump is like cohen is doing his only thing and cohen was like my own lawyer was probably freelancing, i didn't know about this pardon thing. look, this seems par for the course for this crowd of folks to sort of just -- >> the one thing interesting in this article there is is that it says that the president's personal attorneys would not respond to this request except for rudy giuliani who apparently wouldn't rule it out in these discussions. >> right, but that wasn't -- they wanted more of a guarantee, david. >> right, you don't know who
ultimately had sway. there is a lot of lawyers discussing a lot of different things and eventualities and we are catching process in this reporting where somebody is checking things out. michael cohen's views about trump changed in particular in response to the way they started targeting him once the raid happened, once he got closer to cooperating. so, again, his level of righteousness increased as time went on and he's got plenty of credibility problems, that doesn't necessarily retract from whether or not he was telling the truth. >> he's coming back in week to congress. it's hard to know what stone has been left unturned and i don't mean roger. >> speaking of roger -- >> but this is in secret. so we don't -- i mean, it's somewhat to my surprise not anything as far as i'm aware of his testimony before the house intelligence committee or the senate intelligence committee has leaked. >> true. >> so we don't really know what he's covered. >> can i ask you about roger
stone since you brought him up. >> i'm the world's foremost authority on roger stone. >> did you bring the stone? >> i did not. >> the special counsel's office apparently pointed out to judge amy berman jackson, no relation, that stone had an instagram post and has this book coming out which possibly could violate the gag order. let me read you a clip from "the new york times." in a new post published on mr. stone's instagram account he was accused of adopting tactics and mr. stone's followers were asked to donate to his fund. black t-shirts emblazoned with the phrase roger stone did nothing wrong accompanied by the caption the proceeds will go to defend stone against the deep state hit squad. >> in one of those photographs it was my head imposed on the roger stone t-shirt. >> congratulations. >> i'm kind of famous. >> how does this not violate a gag order? >> the instagram post, he is allowed to fund raise but he is no the allowed to attack mueller. i mean, i think he's playing
with fire. i think he could get locked up. i mean, this is insane what he's doing. i mean, the book is a little bit of a different story because the book had come out previously, this is a new edition with a new book. of course he should have said to the judge, by the way, i'm coming out with a new edition of my book, but the instagram post which i assume was done by his advisers, these people who help him out in florida, but i think he's -- he is playing with fire and judge jackson is not screwing around. i mean, i don't think this will get him locked up, but it might. >> david, this is the problem, i mean, there's a lot of people around the president and the president included who are playing by the old playbook. their old rules of when they were, you know, in charge -- when they were at the trump organization or when roger stone was a top adviser, but things have changed, there are new rules now, and that's why it
will be so gas in a i get to hear from allen weisselberg who was the cfo of the trump organization, rhona graff, one of the gatekeepers, that's the old rules and now new rules, congress wants to hear how it worked. >> yeah, exactly, and the question is whether the courts will ultimately settle who comes before them, if they fight these subpoenas. we can find out in the next couple of weeks. and i think judge jackson who made the point that, you know, you get two strikes but not three is likely to show him who is boss in this case. i've seen a lot of tough federal judges who i don't think should be putting up with this kind of stupidity. >> judge berman jackson, no relation. mary katharine, last word. >> everybody wants to be an instagram influencer these days whether you are roger stone or a bachelor et contestant. it's a different path. >> leave it there. >> i'm an instagram influencer now, i guess, because i'm on roger stone's website. >> i guess so. >> looking sharp. >> you have arrived.
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president trump in his words walked away from a nuclear summit with north korea empty handed. now we are learning a closely held north korean secret that the president knew about may have played a role in why the talks collapsed. joining us now is james clapper, former director of national intelligence and cnn national security analyst. thank you for being with us. what we are told is that kim jong-un raised the possibility of dismantling under the watchful eye of american inspectors this nuclear power plant and weapons production area we've known about that's been public for some time. president trump went back to him and said you have to do that plus everything else and everything else apparently includes a different facility. kang song near pyongyang which
is involved with producing nuclear technology. when kim jong-un wouldn't give that that's when the president walked away. is that a valid reason to walk away, director? >> well, it could be. the thing about this, john, i think and the reason it went south was actually -- apart from, you know, this site is both from a process and a substance standpoint -- from a process standpoint and i thought that's the reason for appointing a special envoy, which you would typically expect is that there would be some deliverables worked out ahead of time that the north koreans and we had already agreed to so that the actual summit could be more of a formality. but even more broadly than that i think in the absence of knowing -- of having as far as i know having failed to ask the question of kim jong-un what is it you need to feel secure so
you don't need nuclear weapons and to have agreed on what exactly denuclearization means, and this site is just a manifestation of that failure to have arrive at a mutual agreement of denuclearization. just bear in mind the north koreans in their mind denuclearization applies -- it's a two-way street. it applies to us as well. so from both a process and a substance standpoint, i think the summit was doomed from the get-go. >> in other words, if this was going to be a problem the president should have known that going in and that's symptomatic of a greater failure you're saying? >> exactly. i think just a lack of preparation or a combination of that and perhaps, you know, the president's hub bris. he thought he could charm kim jong-un into agreeing to anything. it isn't sufficient for us to demand that the north koreans denuclearize when the only
apparent promise is we will be lesko err sieve, that's not an appealing negotiating strategy. >> in your mind is the united states in a worse position vis-a-vis north korea than a week ago? >> no, to his credit and i was concerned about this, i thought -- you know, the president did walk away. you know, no deal is better than a bad deal and i was concerned that in an effort to do a -- generate a counter distraction to the cohen hearing that he might concede something like agreeing over time to take all u.s. forces off the peninsula, which i think would be a huge blunder. well, he didn't do that. >> do you think it's possible that the cohen hearing as the president suggested contributed to the failure this have summit? >> no, i don't think it had anything to do with it. and it took him two or three days to think that one up. >> the one thing that has disappeared presumably now or apparently for good at least
under this administration are the major joint military exercises between the united states and south korea. you think that's a real problem. >> i do. i think it's -- this is something the president gratuitously gave away at singapore in june and he didn't need to. what do we have to show for it? we didn't get anything for that. now i guess the department of defense has decided to officially take those down. the reason those exercises are important is, first, they have to -- we have to exercise jointly among our own forces who are turning over every year as well with iraq. so it's both a joint and a combined necessarily, i believe, for readiness purposes to have those exercises. by the way, the north koreans fully understand the purpose of that exercise. the scenario is about the same every year, was when i served there 30 years ago and it's no different. it's defensive, it's an invasion by the north and south and
restoration to the militarized zone. and the north koreans know that. >> director, i want to ask you a question about something that you were intimately involved with in your time as director of national intelligence and it has to do with the nsa surveillance program or met at that data collection apparatus. it changed in 2015, it went from the fact the u.s. government had to ask the phone companies for some of this meta data which is essentially who called whom from where domestically. there are reports overnight that cnn that is confirmed that this administration has abandoned that program and may very well let it expire when its authorization comes to an end which is soon. glen greenwald who is something of a nemesis of yours, who was integrate in edward snowden's exposure of some of these programs, this is what he wrote, the very first nsa program we revealed from snowden document, the mass domestic spying program of americans' phone records was james clapper lied about and
obama insisted was vital to national security has been shut down. we have you here so we'd like your reaction to that. >> well, the original thought behind this, and this program was put in place as a direct result of 9/11, and the point was to be able to track quickly a foreign community kant talking to somebody in this country who may have been plotting a terrorist plot and was put in place during the bush administration for that reason. i always regarded it as kind of a safeguard or insurance policy so that if the need came up you would have this to refer to. an example of that was after the boston marathon bombing, there was concern and a suspicion at the time that there may have been a broader intent to attack, particularly in new york city. that turned out not to be the case. so i think the big lesson here
was, you know, a need for more transparency. now, you know, i can't comment on whether to the extent to which, you know, nsa has actually used this since the u.s.a. freedom act which was enacted in 2015 to replace the patriot act 215 was intended to move that instead of nsa storing this meta data it would be stored at the providers and nsa could ask the providers. i can't comment on whether or not it's been used or not. at some point you would want to have that capability, though, if you ever had another plot involving plotters in the united states or plotters overseas. as far as the comment about the allegation about my lying, i didn't lie, i made a big mistake and i just simply didn't understand what i was being asked about. i thought of another surveillance program, section
702 of the foreign intelligence surveillance act when i was being asked about section 215 of the patriot act at the time, i just didn't understand that. >> one of the things that's noted in "the new york times" article which broke this story overnight was that it suggested no terrorist attacks have been stopped or terrorists caught as a result of this program. if that is the case, does that indicate that it might not be necessary? >> well, that's true, and i think probably at the time contemporaneously back 2013 or so when all this broke that we may have oversold it a bit because, you know, we were hard pressed to point out to a specific case in point. what this was was just trying to capitalize on lesson learned from 9/11. i will say that -- and i've said this publicly many times before, that what this did prove was the need for the intelligence community to have been more transparent. i'm convinced had this been explained contemporaneously at
the time it was introduced that it would have been accepted by the public and probably vooy wot have caused any more anxiety, but people know about it, no yes, know how it's used and it is regulated and given proper oversight. >> director james clapper, thank you for being with us this morning to discuss this and also many other issues as well. >> thanks, john. john, so who do democratic voters want to run in 2020 and how will they take on president trump? >> it seems like the dude is made of rubber, anything you throw at him just bounces off. there's nothing that sticks. >> all right. this group has a lot to say. we get the pulse of the people next.
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okay. back by popular demand, another "new day" voter panel. this time democratic voters from ohio, new york, new jersey and pennsylvania, all of whom voted for hillary clinton in 2016. you may remember some of them from previous panels during this election season. well, we brought them back to see how they're feeling today
and who they want to take on president trump. >> show of hands, how many of you are feeling today very optimistic about a democrat's chances in 2020? michael, why are you optimistic? >> i think, you know, trump has created an energy on the left that we haven't seen in a long time. it wasn't enough to get over the hump in 2016 apparently, but i think, you know, i think that the democrats are appearing to be better organized. >> tommy, if you can limit it to one, who you're most excited about right now, of the people in or considering getting in, can you narrow it down to one? >> i like what kamala harris is doing in terms of schooling an green initiatives, but also, i mean, to go with like an old safety, bernie sanders, i mean, he just had so much going for him. >> mary, who are you most excited about? >> i would have to agree, i'm -- my eye is on senator harris
right now. i think it's time to have a woman because a woman brings a different perspective and has a different experience of life. >> michael? >> i was for bernie in the 2016 primaries. i think he brings a lot to the table from 2016 because he now has the name recognition, he has a machine behind him that's not necessarily the same as the democratic party machines. it's not enough to just energize democrats, you need to find a candidate who can energize some of those 100 million plus people who for whatever reason is not voting. >> i'm not excited for bernie, though. >> why? >> i think he was very divisive, very divisive last time around and i think he's going to do the same thing. i'm looking for a candidate that's going to keep us alive and pull us together and i don't think that's bernie. i think that there is a section of the republican party that doesn't like trump, either, and is looking for a more centrist
candidate and bernie is way left. >> if i were to pick someone right now i really like elizabeth warren. she has really bold ideas, she's not backing down on making big promises and knows how to get them done, knows how to sell them and i think that's something we want in a president. i think that's what's going to beat donald trump. >> i don't think it's time to pick because we have four stellar women candidates and i'm just for all of them to move forward and see which one rises above the others. >> christian, who are you most excited about? >> i really like cory booker, i think he is phenomenal, i think he's done a really great job. i like -- i hope that beto o'rourke comes in, i think that he's just waiting and i'm really energized about him and kamala harris is right up there, too. >> how many people believe that the winning formula would be for a democrat to be pragmatic and more centrist? show of hands. >> two of you feel that way. how many of you feel that the time is right for a progressive and that's what would win?
>> carol? >> we're ready for progressive candidates, they've won all over the country and i think we need bold, strong leadership and you will find that in the progressives. >> i think that we had the standard bearer for the kind of pragmatic centrist candidate in hillary clinton in 2016 and donald trump is now president. he is not your average political candidate, so we really need to three to think outside the box because, you know, it seems like the dude is made of rubber, anything you throw at him bounces off, there's nothing that sticks. >> how many of you would like to see joe biden get in? show of hands? what's happening? >> his time is done. >> i will be honest i used to think like, you know, because -- obviously i rode the obama wave and i thought he was a person that would unite the party, but to be honest, you know, senator biden really comes from kind of the good old boy politics of the
past. >> i don't think joe biden represents that new thing that we need. we need a new economy, we need a new politics and we need someone different. >> what will you be voting on in 2020? if the election were held today, mary, what's your big issue that you feel you would vote on? >> you know, my big issue truly is about climate change. i think because it touches everyone and it touches jobs and it touches our future. we cannot have a conversation about politics without considering what we are doing to the planet. >> you see people freaking out over the wall and these migrants coming up from central and south america, i mean, that's going to be like nothing compared to the migration you will see as climate change really starts to affect the sea level rise. the ice is melting fast. >> my big issue is the global world order. i mean, we have a president who has humiliated the united states on the global stage by cozying
up to dictators, by having -- falling in love with the leader of north korea, by having a relationship with russia that makes him giddy and excited. >> i echo all the sentiments on climate change. i also am going to be looking for a candidate that's going to take on sensible gun regulation. that's a big one for me. that's maybe the biggest one for me. >> i think overall like whoever i support they have to be for medicare for all. it's hurting so many people, something democrats have worked on since fdr and we absolutely need to have that. healthcare needs to be a human right. >> all of you ended up being hillary voters. so does hillary have a role in 2020? >> no. >> should she campaign -- >> no, stay away. >> why is that? >> i love you, hillary, i love you, i love you, but stay away. we are so divided right now that
anything that has hillary on it is automatically going to separate us again. >> i just think her time is done. i think it's been -- it's done. we do need something new. >> do you feel the same way about president obama? should he campaign for -- >> yes, he should campaign. he is a great campaigner, he's very beloved and he also has a tremendous connection to all the people that love him. he has a base still and that base is very strong and he has, i think, an authoritative voice against trump that we're going to need in this campaign. wow. there was a lot that's interesting there. you know, first of all, one of the things we hear from iowa voters, highest priority voters, democratic voters is they are in the sampling season and clearly that group of eight people is in the sample season. >> absolutely, but there's a lot that they like so far. they're cautiously optimistic because they really like the field. >> what was notable and perhaps frightening to some people is
who they don't like. if i am joe biden sitting at home right now, i'm watching that being like, i'm weighing whether i want to run or not. there are eight people -- granted, i think those may have been eight people more active in democratic politics, not necessarily the casual observer and it might be that biden sells better with the more casual democratic voter and older democratic voter. by the way, that was not an older group of voters, 65 and older, and that's who biden may do better with right there, but that i think should sound a tone of caution, i think. >> i was surprised. i was surprised that there's six of them, i know math isn't our strong suit. >> no. >> but there's -- i was surprised that of the six that nobody said that they were supporting biden. they seem much more engaged with the newcomers on the block, but not just because of the novelty of it, i mean, these are people who have been active at times and who are certainly engaged. so they know the platform. okay, so tomorrow we have part
two and they talk about the investigations that are going on, the oversight, what they want to see in terms of what happens with president trump and also how strongly they feel, you will hear tomorrow, about alexandria ocasio-cortez and nancy pelosi. >> it doesn't surprise me at all because another notable thing there was how progressive and how demanding i think they sound like they will be on progressive issues of the candidates. >> yes, indeed. >> fascinating. all right. president trump promises a-plus disaster relieve after alabama's deadly tornadoes. next an eye opening cnn reality check of the president's performance after other major natural disasters. at midas, with every oil change you get a free tire rotation. makes you feel like a king! king for a day!
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killing at least 23 people. but it does seem in sharp contrast to the tone president trump took after the worst wildfires in california history five months ago when 85 people were killed in a northern california camp fire alone. quote, there is no reason for these massive deadly and costly forest fires in california except that forest management is so poor. remedy now or no more fed payments. comforter in chief? not so much when it comes to california. instead he seems perilously close to blaming the victim and he continued in that vein denying that climate change had any role to play and suggesting that the solution ray in the raking of forests. seek yusly. >> you have to take care of the floors, you know, the floors of the forests, very important. >> floors of the forest. could trump's callousness to california sound something like his head smacking responses to puerto rico. saying that the american island was facing a fiscal crisis of its own making and warning that fema couldn't stay there
forever. keep in mind we now know an estimated 3,000 of our fellow americans were killed in had a hurricane, most in its after matt. but trump praised the government's disaster response as, quote, one of the best. he also compared maria to hurricane cath in a calling that storm in which more than 1,800 people died a recan a stast fee. the president managed to get into hurricane maria death toll denial, attack the mayor of an juan and blame the democrats for it all while accusing elected officials without evidence of scamming the federal government and trying to use relief funds to pay off his debt. so what might make a president take a different instinctive tact towards puerto rico, california and the families in lee county, alabama. sad to say it just might be politics. back in november the "washington post" noted the stark differences, for trump even disaster response is colored in red and blue. trump won alabama by nearly a two to one margin over hillary clinton but lost california by almost the same margin.
bottom line, partisan politics shouldn't even cross a president's mind in the face of suffering by u.s. citizens. george w. bush didn't exactly carry manhattan but he rallied around the any of new york after the attacks of then. that's what president's do, that's why it's called acting presidential and everyone should feel that the federal government has got their back when disaster strikes because it's moments like that when we should realize that no matter who you vote for, what divides us is small in the face of what unites us as americans. and that's your reality check. >> if there's one thing that could afford to be apolitical it's disaster relief. >> you would think. new privacy concerns for facebook users. what happens when you give the company your phone number next? plus, a possible medical breakthrough, a second person could be cured of hiv. (client's voice) remember that degree you got in taxation?
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more than signs. time for cnn business now. security experts are criticizing a facebook feature meant to keep you safe from hackers. they say it could be a new privacy concern. our chief business correspondent christine romans joins us with more. >> privacy concerns and casablanca? i can't believe it. this is about using your phone for two factor authentication. the users thought it would be used for security purposes but it can find you on the site. under the privacy settings users can specify who they want to share the phone number or e-mail address with. there is no way to opt out. over the weekend social media outrage. a spokesperson for facebook said the feature is supposed to make it easier to find people you know who aren't friends with you yet on facebook. we appreciate the feedback and we'll take it into account.
critics say you shouldn't give up your privacy to attack yourself against hackers. if people choose to use two factor authentication they must add the number to their facebook profile. another security and privacy concern for facebook. last year it removed the ability to remove an e-mail address under similar privacy concerns. facebook confirmed phone numbers may be used to inform ad personalization. >> thank you very much for that. listen to this. a patient in london may be the second person to be cured of hiv. the case comes more than a decade after a patient in berlin was also cured using stem cell transplants from donors with a rare genetic mutation. elizabeth cohen has more about this. it looks promising. >> alisyn, it is promising. this doesn't mean anything for people who currently have hiv. however, it is exciting for the future. let me explain.
two patients, the berlin patient 12 years ago, and now the london patient, both in addition to having hiv had cancer. one had leukemia and one had lymphoma. so doctors used stem cells to treat the cancer. they said, let's give them a stem cell transplant from someone with a rare genetic mutation that makes them immune to hiv. it worked. they are no longer taking anti-retro viral drugs. they do not have hiv. people use words like apparently cured is the term a lot of doctors are using. it is important to note the same treatment, the same stem cell streemt w treatment was used for others with hiv and didn't work. it worked for two, but not several others. >> why not try it for all hiv patients? >> that's a great question. if it worked for two, why not try for all of them? the problem is stem cell treatments can kill you.
they are very risky. you have to do them for many patients with cancer because that's the only treatment available and it is worth the risk. but anti-hiv drugs that came out in the 90s do a terrific job. they are effective. why put someone through the risk of a stem cell transplant when you can give them very safe drugs? >> is there a way to make the treatment more safe and effective for more than just two people? >> they are trying to come up with a way to do the stem cell transplant without the risks so it could be used on a wider basis. we are years away from that. >> elizabeth cohen, thank you very much for the breaking medical news. all right. this morning, new response from the white house after house democrats launched an investigation into just about everything. >> pretty much. >> surrounding donald trump. "new day" continues now. >> our goal is to hold the administration accountable. our goal is to vindicate the rule of law. >> i have given the information
to the special counsel. it's really harassment. >> each can offer facts and evidence to put the puzzle together. >> i have never asked for, nor would i accept a pardon from president trump. >> a new report says cohen's lawyer discussed a possible pardon with president trump's lawyers. >> my advice to the president of the united states is no pardons. after the investigation is over then it has to be considered a governmental matter. tornadoes ravaged parts of our great state. we lost children, mothers, fathers. >> my son was on top of me. he said, i don't want to die. >> he held onto the couch for dear life. >> announcer: this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> it is tuesday, march 5. 8:00 in the east. new this morning, this is what congressional oversight looks like and the white house isn't enjoying the view. the trump administration and trump campaign is lashing out at house democrats after the democrats launched a sweeping investigation into the
president's orbit. wide orbit. lawmakers are tackling allegations of corruption, abuse of power. they sent requests for documents to 81 individuals and entities with ties to the president including two of his sons. the white house calls the move disgraceful and abusive. >> also new this morning, the "wall street journal" reports a lawyer for michael cohen approached president trump's attorneys and raised the possibility of a pardon. after cohen was raided by the fbi last year what's unclear is whether michael cohen knew about it because he denied it in front of congress. we'll talk to the rorter behind the story as all of this plays out. former white house lawyer ty cobb is defending the mueller probe. here's a piece. >> you can criticize the strategy. it wouldn't have been my strategy. i don't feel the same way about mueller. i don't feel the investigation is a witch hunt. i wish it happened on a quicker timetable, but it didn't.
>> zwrojoining us, a congressio reporter from "the washington post," jeffrey toobin and david gregory. is that true that he's speaking publicly about endorsing the mueller probe? >> this is just a very different approach to the investigation that's been taken since he left. he was hired basically to cooperate with the mueller investigation, to turn over documents, facilitate white house officials coming in to agree to be interviewed. ever since emmet flood replaced him, he comes from williams & conley which has a very different approach to investigations which is to fight everything all the time. rudy giuliani came in, led the public offensive against the mueller investigation. that's obviously something that the president is much more comfortable with. the sort of full attack mode rather than the