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both of his parents are musicians. and i say so what? god bless. what a gift that kid has. i hope he keeps working with it. "cnn tonight" with erin burnett in for d-lemon starts right now. 4 years old. we both have kids. everybody thinks their kids are special. >> that is very special. but just imagine that in your house. >> all day. all night i'd love it. listen to the racket we have now in our house zblpz i guess that's true. it might be better than some of the screaming that goes on in my house. all right. you have a good weekend, mr. cuomo. >> you, too. >> this is "cnn tonight." i'm erin burnett in for don lemon once again. paul manafort, president trump's former campaign chairman, gets a stunning sentence tonight from a judge in virginia.
that is the case over seeing his trial for bank fraud. tax evasion. manafort got 47 months in prison. the reason i use the word stunning which i recognize we can over use in television. is it was astonishing. significantly less than the 19 to 24 years sought by prosecutors. sentencing guidelines from robert mueller's office. now, the judge called that recommendation excessive. more than excessive, we are talking about 47 months versus up 24 years. totally different stratosphere. manafort is accused of witness tampering and additional crimes in his other court case. he's going to be sentenced on that next week. but the judge today said manafort lived an otherwise blameless life. he's giving manafort credit for the nine months he already spent in jail in solitary confinement for most of that. meaning when it's all said and done it's not 37 months. it's 47 months less that. so it's just over three years behind bars. he also has to pay millions of
dollars in fines and restitutions. so it's interesting when you say an otherwise blameless life and then you say your fines are going to be -- the lowest $6 million and up to $25 million. manafort was convicted of eight financial crimes including bank and tax fraud, hiding foreign bank accounts. and this was by a jury of his peers, an american jury in a three-week trial. before manafort was sentenced, he did not express remorse for his crimes. he did express remorse for himself and how horrible his life has become. how his family has been ruined and his life is in a shambles and he is ashamed. but he did not say he was sorry for what he did. manafort's lead attorney spoke briefly outside the courthouse. >> as you heard in court today, mr. manafort finally got to speak for himself. he made clear he accepts responsibility for his conduct. and i think most importantly what you saw today is the same thing that we had said from day one. there is absolutely no evidence that paul manafort was involved with any collusion with any government official from russia. >> now, here is what we do know.
we do know that paul manafort has not been charged with conspiracy, which would be the actual crime. we have no idea what mueller has found, though. i want to keep in mind, today, tonight was the first of two sentencings for manafort. he's going to be sentenced next week in washington, d.c. today's was in virginia. two separate jurisdictions. he pleaded guilty to charges of conspiracy and witness tampering in d.c. and the prison time there could be substantial ten years. anywhere up to ten years. so, this is obviously going to be the big question. and joining me now is congressman raja krishnamoorthi, an illinois democrat who sits on the intelligence and oversight committees. and i appreciate your time, congressman. >> thank you. >> so the look on the faes face of some of the prosecutors today as described by our evan perez, in the room was astonished. this was not what they expected, the sentence to be just under
four years. what do you think? >> yeah, i would agree. i think it was on the low side for sure. the sentencing guidelines are much higher. you know, the judge said a couple curious things, one of which was he said the defendant in this case mr. manafort had led an otherwise blameless life. and i just didn't understand what he was talking about. this gentleman, mr. manafort, is facing two sentencing hearings in one week. i don't see how someone who led an otherwise blameless life would end up in this type of situation. >> why do you think the judge did this? obviously he'd been critical of mueller in the past. he had accuse prosecutors at the beginning of this of basically using manafort as a pawn to get to the president to try to impeach him or whatever, was the quote from judge ellis at the time. and of course now making a point of saying this is not about collusion. was the judge trying to send a message? >> i am not sure. but you know, think that in this
particular case, you know, mr. manafort didn't even express remorse for his crimes. i am surprised at this sentence. i'm also very curious about what his lawyer meant at the end when he said that there was no collusion with, quote unquote, "any russian official." this was a bookend to a statement that the white house made earlier in the day when they said they were not taking any pardons off the table for mr. manafort. so this kind of call and response was a rather curious signal to various people. >> i mean there is a couple of ways to look at it. one way is okay, this is a chairman of a presidential campaign for a now sitting president who's going to prison for defrauding taxpayers of millions of dollars, for bank fraud. i mean, it's stunning. then on the other hand there's this sentence that is in so many ways a mere slap on the wrist.
from a political standpoint is this a win for trump? >> unclear. there is going to be a second sentencing hearing which is next week. that could involve a sentence up to ten years. just one fact that i would point out about that particular hearing. there was a filing that was made in january that inadvertently revealed mr. manafort had actually met with a business associate who was connected to the russian intelligence services and apparently in that meeting, in a cigar bar in new york city, he actually passed in past private polling data from the trump campaign to this russian intelligence agent essentially and apparently that agent in return asked for relief from sanctions on russia. and so that is the clearest evidence of collusion or conspiracy in this whole russian saga. so i think depending on what happens next week and what
happens with that particular piece of information in the investigation that could spell more difficulties for the president. >> and what about for manafort? if you're saying that's the closest to conspiracy, which obviously would be the legal term for collusion, the crime, could there be more coming? >> possibly. i don't know that the special counsel is going to continue to prosecute mr. manafort beyond this stage. it sounds like he may be done with mr. manafort. however, we don't know where the special counsel's going to go with that very important meeting between kilimnik and mr. manafort. and what other information he has such as for instance who directed mr. manafort to go to that cigar bar and exchange polling data. you know, you don't have to be david axelrod to know that that private polling data is being given for a reason and that
reason is potentially targeting by the russians in their social media campaign or their efforts to influence the american election. >> thank you very much. congressman, i appreciate your time tonight. >> thank you so much. >> i want to bring in elie honig, shimon prokupecz, asher rangappa and -- author of the threat matrix, inside the global war on terror. shimon, we were together just as this was breaking tonight and we're still together. i used the word stunning and i was sort of joking but this really was. this was not what anyone expected. and i know cnn was in the courtroom. the prosecutors, the astonishment showed on their faces. >> yeah. and like you pointed out before, evan perez, our good colleague here, was inside the courtroom. we had other senior reporters inside the courtroom. and all said, it really became a show in terms of it became about the judge, and then it became a reaction more from the
prosecutors than we saw anyone else. i think they certainly were shocked. they started seeing signs while ellis was speaking, while the judge was speaking, that this wasn't going to go well for them. that was the moment where some of the prosecutors started looking at each other, when ellis was using words like the sentencing guidelines are out of whack or he was saying that the 19 to 24 years were excessive. you started seeing some indications certainly there that this wasn't going to go their way. and you know, for paul manafort he came in, his health is a little bit of an issue. he was in a wheelchair. he spoke for four minutes. he spoke from the wheelchair. he asked the judge for compassion. it's true. he never really was remorseful for what he had done. he was more remorseful and sad and upset over the life that he's had to live the last nine months that he's been in jail awaiting trial. so that was the kind of color up. at the end our colleagues noted his eyes, paul manafort, was
bloodshot, and there was no clear indication while he was speaking he was crying but certainly at the end you can tell that he realized the gravity of all of this. and i bet a huge sigh of relief. i know his attorneys certainly felt that way. they were not expecting such a low sentence. but in the end it seems that the judge, who as you said did have issues with this prosecution, went on the low side here. >> yeah, i mean -- and the judge calls it, elie, excessive. the guidelines. right? the 19 to 24 years. you call the actual sentence a joke. >> yeah. i stand by that. i think this sentence was unjust and unreasonable and unprincipled. i do agree 19 to 24 would have been excessive. but this judge went 15 years below the bottom of that range. that is an enormous reduction. and i have two problems with it. first of all, it's hard to conceive of a defendant who had more openly flouted the u.s. government and criminal justice simm. he lied at every turn. he got convicted at trial. he got his bail revoked because he tried to tamper with witnesses. he lied to mueller. he lied to the fbi. he didn't even expect remorse today. and i don't know what kind of
message that sends. the other objection i have is that you routinely see defendants, i routinely see defendants when i prosecuted drug cases in the federal system, first time, non-violent drug offenders who get way more than this sentence. and i think it's hard to ignore the fact that manafort is older, he's white, he's eat wealthy, he's a quasi-celebrity, and most of those drug defendants who i had experience with here in new york with none of those things. and there's a disparity that i think is hard to ignore. >> and asha, to that end, you have judge ellis noting that manafort "lived an otherwise blameless life," talked about him being a good friend and a generous person. obviously, no one really knows what was going on in manafort's personal life. neither does judge ellis. so i don't know how he would know that. but he's trying to compartmentalize what happened. right? tens of millions of dollars of tax fraud is okay, an otherwise blameless life. >> yes. i mean, that was an astonishing
statement for him to make based on these charges alone. but erin, i have been hammering this point home for a while now, that this is really hard to understand the full he counterintelligence story just by looking at the criminal charges alone. i mean, what judge ellis was unable to take into account are things that are known to the department of justice and the fbi but didn't make it into the courtroom. for example, we know that manafort was under fisa surveillance from before the time he even entered the campaign. that would have required the fbi showing a court that he he was working -- knowingly acting as an agent of a foreign power in clandestine intelligence activities. we know the republican national committee platform on the ukraine changed under his watch. we know on this other case that he was passing polling data. these are little tips of the iceberg, and i think it justifies why the house committees need to do an investigation, because just looking at the criminal charges
that make their way into court is really the tail end of the bigger story on what russia was doing in this campaign. >> you know, garrett, it does seem the judge back in may had said to mueller's team, i'm quoting judge ellis, "you don't really care about mr. manafort's bank fraud. you really care about what information mr. manafort will give you that will reflect on mr. trump and lead to his prosecution or impeachment." right? that's what he said last spring. that appears to be where he stands now. paul manafort today talking about the last two years are the most difficult my family and i have ever experienced. he talked about the person i've been described as in public is not someone i recognize. on and on. and look, the guy's in a wheelchair. i understand. there's some empathy one can have. but this was a woe is me. there was no i'm sorry at all. >> yeah. and that blameless life comment is really confounding. i mean, prosecutors actually in their sentencing memo cited that
really as the opposite impact. you know, this is someone who's had every advantage of career and education and wealth and was still out there breaking the laws, multiple federal laws over the period of a decade at almost an industrial scale. money laundering $65 million is a full-time job for a decade. this is someone who hid that money overseas and brought it back to spend a million dollars on bespoke clothing including that famous ostrich jacket? >> oh, yes. >> this is someone who is clearly not only not remorseful but knew every step of the way that every single stem he was taking was wrong. and he has worked for some of the most repulsive regimes around the world for decades now. i think anyone who sort of looks
as paul manafort as a woe is me has their morals sxethics sand sadly misplaced. >> all of you please stay with me. we talk about today and the stunning sentence. but as i mentioned you've got another sentencing next week in the other manafort trial. could it be a surprise or a very different story? got it? got it. it's slippery. nooooo... noooo... nooooo...
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and he's charged with fara violations, working for a foreign government and not registering with the u.s. government. there are also obviously charges of witness tampering. remember this was another case where they felt he was involved in potential witness tampering involving a russian agent, so there's that element of that. >> kilimnik. >> yeah, kilimnik. of that case. what is significant of this judge, and this is judge amy berman jackson-s she's got a very different take on paul manafort than judge ellis. she's the judge that threw manafort in jail for violating the conditions of release for that tampering which they accused him of tampering were a witness. there were other allegations there. she threw him back in jail. she has not been the most kind to him like judge ellis. she has a very different take on a lot of that case and the other thing is he's facing up to ten years. there were two counts there he's facing, up to ten years in prison from there. what we'll see is whether or not she adds additional time to what
judge ellis sentenced him today, whether or not she says i'll give you five more years sow spend a total of nine years, or does she give him the whole ten years? judge ellis had a very different view of the special counsel team. also, she, you know, to asha's point, has a very different understanding of the special counsel's investigation, because she's been in the middle of a lot of the classified and a lot of the intelligence that has not come out. >> elie, just to be clear, anyone who's been following, this if there's any confusion, she has the ability to sentence him for up to ten years. and, and this is important, she also can decide whether that is concurrent or on top of. >> exactly. >> in order words, she can try to rectify what she sees as a wrong by judge ellis. somewhat. >> she can tack it on -- >> he can get a max of 14 years of a minimum of frankly what he has right now. >> the most can do is send another ten years and it's going run consecutive. bringing it up to 14.
i think that's unlikely. i think in her head she will accounting for this soft sentence. i think she's much less gullible, much less sympathetic than this judge will be. i think judge jackson has proven herself beth with the manafort case and the stone case to be a very clear eyed no nonsense judge. i look for her to partially remedy of what judge ellis did. that said, the bigger exposure was in virginia and he already guite huge cut on that. she can go part of the way fixing it. >> let me ask you, just to be clear, when you hear about the meeting in trump tower and you hear about sharing polling data and you hear about the links with konstantin kilimnik, they say alleged or whatever, russian operative. just want to make sure i put the right adjective on there. the bottom line is it would seem there was collusion or conspiracy, manafort would have somehow been involved, he had those links to the ukraine and the platform changed to the rnc, he was not charged with that.
is there any scenario in which he is charged later or is this basically an admission that they don't have a formal conspiracy case, mueller? >> erin, i think this is where we're running up against the limitations of these kinds of activities, which is we don't necessarily have crimes that cover them. if he's acting as a russian agent and changing the platform on ukraine. you know, the best thing we have is the foreign agent registration act, which he was actually charged under. this was one of the crimes that he was sentenced for. you know to spell all those things out, this is why i think that these house committees need to get to the facts underlying it. because again, they may not meet these criminal definitions, which are quite narrow compared to the national security concerns. and i just want to add, to get to something that shimon said, this has now become about this one judge. and i think it's important to
remember that the rule of law isn't about one judge. he will be sentenced. he will go to jail. and you know, bloomberg news reported that new york attorney general is ready to go with a case against him by the states if he gets pardoned. so he will serve justice, and i just think it's important to remember that. before getting discouraged about what happened today. >> are we ever, though, garrett -- this is important. you're talking about the chairman of a presidential campaign with an unbelievable arave contacts with russia across that campaign. will we ever know why manafort lied, why manafort gave the polling data to this alleged russian operative, why he -- that platform changed? will we ever know the motive and the reason and what the relationships were with foreign intelligence? >> so i am going to disagree a little bit with asha here, who i normally agree with fully and say i actually do think we are going to learn more about the motivation of paul manafort and
i am not sure he's necessarily out of the legal woods entirely here. it does seem possible if mueller has sort of one final large overarching conspiracy to defraud the united states, conspiracy against the united states indictment to drop, potentially including other members of the trump campaign, other trump associates, other members of russian intelligence, that paul manafort might be subject to that. it was notable in manafort's that 800-page sentencing memo that the special counsel handed down that they didn't mention the polling data pe left out some of these things we have learned only because -- not because the special counsel has told us but because paul manafort's attorneys are terrible at redacting documents. the fact that mueller knows some
of this stuff that he has not yet told us i think is pertinent and means that he is planning to tell us in a different forum. >> all right. well, that is fascinating and leaves us on sxinz needles as we await what we think is the soon to be announcement that mueller is done. thank you all. tonight we are still waiting on a response from the white house about paul manafort's sentencing. even though of course we know the president of the united states is watching the coverage avidly. could the president pardon his former campaign chair? o longer have to worry about flushing too much toilet paper. rid-x contains billions of enzymes proven to break down even paper to help keep your whole septic system healthy. for paper, grease or waste breakdown, use rid-x. now audible members get free fitness and wellness programs to transform your mind and body. download the audible app and start listening today. ♪
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incredible leniency to president trump's former campaign chairman paul manafort. the chairman of a campaign, presidential campaign, first ever to go to prison, sentencing him to 47 months in prison which is far less than the 19 to 24 years recommended by the special counsel. is this a big blow for the pluler investigation? i want to bring in matthew rosen and max boot. the author of "the corrosion of conservatism: why i left the right." max, rudy giuliani of course has just weighed in because he can't not. so here's what he says. talking about manafort. "i feel terrible about the way manafort has been treated. i think it's not american to keep a man in solitary confinement to try to crack him. he's not a terrorist. he's not an organized criminal. he's a white-collar criminal. the man was treated this way because he wouldn't lie." except for he did lie. what's your response of this all in that he's basically saying we need to treat white-collar criminals differently, more easily than anyone else? >> well, this is more evidence,
erin, that irony is truly dead. because when rudy giuliani was the u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york he was notorious for his mistreatment of suspects, including doing high-profile perp walks with people who were then later released or had the cases against them dropped. i mean, this is very much his own m.o. when he was a prosecutor, being used against somebody like paul manafort, who unlike some of the people that rudy giuliani went against were not actually innocent. paul manafort is actually somebody who has a long criminal history of financial fraud, of bank fraud, of tax fraud. he has pleaded guilty to conspiracy against the united states. he has represented horrible dictatorships all over the world. some of the worst regimes on the planet. this is not somebody who has led an otherwise blameless life as the judge said. this is not somebody who as rudy giuliani is trying to suggest is a vmt of the prosecutors. if anything, he has gotten off pretty leniently today given his
horrible conduct and the way that he has been involved in undermining our democracy. >> matthew, the big question is whether the president will pardon paul manafort. waits till the sentence next week and then he can decide. strategically, what do you think he's going to do in terms of making that decision? does he wait for the mueller report to see if there's a whole slew of indictments and try to gauge when he'd have the most power with a potential pardon? >> i think we've learned not to bet on what donald trump is going to do. look, we know from michael cohen's lawyers and his assessment that trump seems to be suggesting or people around the president are suggesting pardons are on the table. he said before the president, now the president's lawyer, that manafort is somehow a victim of this witch hunt. which is it is sort of amazing. you steal millions of dollars from taxpayers. you engage in crimes that enrip yourself immensely. and somehow you're the victim
here is something that -- >> to emphasize, convicted and admitted. pleading guilty. it's insane. >> yes. >> anyway, go ahead. just want to put an exclamation point on your point. >> it's jutst amazing. somehow he's better than the average thief. i mean, he was better than stealing money. that's for sure. he stole more than the average thief does. but i do think that look, you're probably going to see at least talk of pardons coming soon. and if your people around the president and if there is anything you fear the idea of pardoning somebody right now is probably pretty attractive. probably tells other people don't cooperate, you'll get a pardon one day. but it's always hard to predict with these guys. >> i mean, you know, max, there is also the issue of course you get, what, three years? it's almost the same amount of prison time for a guy who lied, said he was going to cooperate and kept lying, paul manafort, and a guy who cooperated and is willing to give them everything,
michael cohen. doesn't really make a great argument for cooperation to begin with, does it? >> no. i think what judge ellis is doing here is inexplicable and offensive. clearly he is no judge john siri krachlt. judge si richlt ca during watergate became known as maximum john because he threw the book at the watergate defendants, basically gave them maximum sentences and coerced them into cooperating and helped bring down the nixon administration. that's a great role model for a judge to get at the the truth and unralph this conspiracy and clearly judge ellis isn't interested in that because inexplicably he has sympathy for paul manafort. he might be the only person outside the white house who has any sympathy for paul manafort. >> one other question i wanted to squeeze in. rod rosenstein, outgoing attorney general, who had been overseeing the russia investigation till bill barr came in. made an interesting comment today. here he is. >> in the spirit of promoting a culture of integrity i want to
leave you with the wisdom of an ancient prov. if you desire to know a person's character, consider his friends. >> who was he talking to? >> i mean, it certainly can be read as talking to the president. you know, i think there's something remarkable here. paul manafort wasn't some random associate. he was for a time the chairman of donald trump's campaign. and we now know that he was engaged in a number of crimes, tax fraud and other financial crimes. he also, as max pointed out earlier, represented some notoriously dirty regimes. authoritarians around the world. he also during the campaign provide provided internal polling to a man, this konstantin kilimnik, who's believed to be a russian intelligent ags agent. around the president you have a set of unsavory characters. that's the best description for them. a number of them are even
convicted or admitted criminals. it does say something about the collection of people who helped elect donald trump president. >> right. we're supposed to feel sorry for paul manafort, right? because if he hadn't been crazy enough or dumb enough or whatever word you want to use to take this job he wouldn't have gotten caught. it's crazy. thank you both so very much. and now 23 republicans voting against an anti-hate resolution today. why?
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okay. tonight the house passed a resolution condemning anti-semitism but not just anti-semitism. and other things. a lot of other things. other forms of bigotry. in the wake of freshman comments made by freshman democrat ilhan omar which have been criticized by both parties and labeled anti-semit anti-semitic. you'd think everyone would be on board with an anti-hate measure but not the case because some people want td to just be about
anti-semitism and thus clearly about her. they put in all these other things and 23 republicans chose to vote against it. so why? here to discuss former republican congressman charlie dent, peter beinart and joe lockhart. congressman dent, 23 republicans voted no. i guess they just wanted this to only be about anti-semitism and clearly condemning her. as republicans frankly did when it came to white supremacy with steve king recently. but why would they actually vote against it when it was condemning bigotry? >> well, aaron, look, i believe they should have voted for this resolution. but i do agree, look, this sish really about representative omar's offensive comments. as ted deutch said today on the house floor eloquently, this shouldn't be so hard. the house was correct to condemn steve king's remarks. they should have condemned representative omar's remarks in the same manner, same fashion. if you're somebody like ted
deutch, i'm sitting here in bethlehem, pennsylvania. this is where he's from. his father was battle of the bulge. his family was a small -- they're patriotic americans. and to have your loyalty questioned like that. i can understand why my jewish colleagues, my former jewish colleagues would be deeply offended and why this is anti-semitic. they should have done that. they could have also passed a second resolution condemning white nationalism or islamophobia. they could have done that too. but the truth is this was really about representative omar's comments and that's why we're debating a resolution today and everybody should have voted for it. >> right. and of course the waters got muddied. however, there of course is always some incredible irony or hypocrisy, peter. the minority leader kevin mccarthy voted yes. okay? but then afterwards he said this. >> congress so better than this. please, do not make history write about our time with these two years that the most we've ever done is that we had to keep bringing resolutions to the
floor to tell people that anti-semitism is wrong. >> okay. look, he's right. but then you look at his own record. right? and he has that tweet. he deleted it. but we obviously still have it. warning three prominent jewish democratic donors were trying to buy the election. he picks three jewish donors and makes a comment about money. which is how this whole thing with congresswoman omar started when she said it's all about the benjamins, baby, when referring to jewish money. >> right. i totally understand why people are genuinely offended by what representative omar said. as an american jew myself i have my concerns about what she said. but if you want to understand the disproportionate nature of the attack on her you have to understand that it's about her policy views about israel. the reason she represents a threat and kevin mccarthy doesn't represent a threat is because she's challenging the debate on israel and it is that that people are rallying to protect. you know, there was a report that came out in the u.n. late
last month that israeli forces had killed 189 people during the protests last year in gaza including 35 children. congress hasn't discussed that at all. right? and part of the fear of ilhan omar is she will bring that conversation to the fore. >> so joe, here's one of the things on the other side. republican congresswoman liz cheney vote nod. she's one of the 23. she was unafraid about that and she released a statement about why which reads in part, "for democratic leadership to kowtow to their radical members and refuse to add legislative language that criticizes representative omar's statements in the strongest possible manner confirms what we already knew their party is kroemd by extremists who can't mustert courage to stand up to blatant anti-semitez m." she's basically saying you threw the-bat bath water in with the baby and i'm not okay with that. >> listen, i take what she says with a grain of salt. they want to stand on steve king, he'd been doing it for ten years. >> it took them a lot longer to do that. >> for ten years. and it was only when the democrats regained control that
they decide oh, wait a second, maybe it's wrong to associate with white nationalists. there's a string of republicans that if we wanted to go down the line we've got louis gohmert going after george soros. we have matt gaetz from florida who brought a holocaust denier to the state of the union. it could get extremely silly. i think what nancy pelosi brokered here was a fair deal. and let's not forget, we have a president who's sitting in the oval office who's never apologized for what he said about charlottesville, which was against blacks, which was against jews. and where he said and neo-nazis, that they're fine people. so this was about politics. i agree with peter. this was about making sure that the debate over support with israel doesn't open up into open warfare with democrats and republicans. and it was about politics. and it was met with a political solution. >> yeah. although i do have to say it is
ridiculous that we're having all these votes. it would be nice if we could -- >> actually do some policy. >> yes. >> policy. thanks to all. next, new and horrifying images emerging of teenagers giving nazi salutes at a party. anne frank's stepsister, a holocaust survivor, is trying to teach those teens what they're doing, that what they're mocking isn't a joke. she sat down with cnn. and that's next.
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>> reporter: high school students in alabama spouting violent race sxit anti-semitic comments and enjoying every minute of it, then posting it on social media. >> without the holocaust, what would the world be like? >> we would have white people still. >> jews would run the world without the holocaust. >> jews would be running the world right now. >> the girl you hear repeatedly saying the n-word sent out a statement on her father's car dealership facebook page. "the horrible, horrible things i said were a terrible attempt to be funny. i'm sorry to anyone that had to listen to the video. i will do everything in my power to be better each and every day." but this is just one example of a rising tide of hate among youth. the same week, thousands of miles away in upscale newport
beach, california, high school students do a nazi salute above a red cup swastika they created. parties with a side of nazi rhetoric seem to be popular with some teenagers these days. >> what i saw was how the combination of ignorance, evil, shock, and peer validation can come together at a time when the social political landscape is about othering and polarization. and what happens is there's a race to the bottom because we don't have civic moral leadership in this country that sets a standard as to what's acceptable communally. >> brian levin is a professor at cal state san bernardino and runs the center for the study of hate and extremism. he and other experts on the subject say there has been heavy recruiting by white nationalist groups in recent years on college campuses and grade schools. the anti-defamation league found in 2017 anti-semitic incidents in k-12 schools increased by an
astounding 94%. after nearly doubling the year prior. and the fbi says between 2016 and 2017, reports of hate crimes against jews skyrocketed, up 37%. overall hate crimes reported up 17%. while several white nationalist, kkk and neo-nazi groups are trying to disguise their hateful messages to make it more attractive to the mainstream, levin says the youth are looking for shock and awe that's popular on social media. the behavior isn't just appearing at parties. last month in new york it appeared on a playground. and a new nazi way to ask for a date to a dance in minnetonka, minnesota. she later apologized. eva schloss hopes she's an antidote to anti-semitism among the youth. she is a holocaust survivor, the step-sister of anne frank, whose story of surviving the holocaust has haunted and inspired the
world for more than 70 years. schloss traveled to a newport beach high school just days after some of its students took part in the incident. she sat down privately with the offending students and their parents. >> i just told them that the nazis did really horrible, horrible things, not just gassing jewish people, but even their own disabled people. that was the first experiment with gassing children or people. >> reporter: schloss survived auschwitz concentration camp at 16. but most of her family were annihilated by the nazis along with 6 million jews. and now more than 70 years after the attempt to exterminate so many human beings she's faced with young people who think nazi symbolism is all the rage. >> how hurtful it was for many, many survivors of the holocaust, who have lost millions of their families all over the world really, you know, i mean, it's -- it is an insult to those people. >> reporter: insult to you?
>> yes, insult to me as well. >> reporter: and lastly, are you afraid, now that you've seen young people doing this over and over and over again here in america, are you afraid for the next generations of people? >> well, there's so much education going on now and it's got to be improved. it's got to be more and more. and i hope that eventually they will see the light that it is not anymore acceptable. i'm still an optimist, you know? i think it can't go on that people do evil acts -- it must not happen and it will not happen. >> reporter: eva schloss did say she was shocked in 2019 in a highly educated town with highly educated students that incidents like this could still happen. erin? >> sara, thank you. and thanks to all of you for watching. our coverage continues. the price for loving you? you'll make my morning, but ruin my day. complicated relationship with milk? pour on the lactaid, 100% real milk,
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