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approach and it resonates with many people. >> announcer: this is new day with alisyn camerota and john berman. welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is new day, it's wednesday, march 20th, 6:00 here in new york. alisyn is off. erica hill joins me. good morning. >> good morning. >> i would give you anything, right? >> you are a giver, john. >> so take that into consideration as i'm about to say what i'm about to say have some okay. >> all i right. you get nothing, all right. it's a wonderful quote from charlie and the chocolate factory, you get nothing. also it seems to be what the white house is saying to congress this morning in response to requests for all kinds of documents and testimony on sensitive subjects. overnight the chair of the house oversight committee said he hasn't received a single piece of paper from the white house despite dozens of requests. you get nothing. it also seems to be the strategy playing out before our very eyes when it comes to the mueller report. you get nothing. you, as the american people in this case. the attorney general will get
the report first. he will decide what congress gets to see, but before congress gets even that version, the white house wants to scrub it down with claims of executive privilege. so in the end you may get nothing. the process is a new laser sharp focus this morning because the special counsel's office just dropped what could be a major clue bomb in a new legal filing. robert mueller's lawyer said they face a press of work this week, a press of work. could that press be the actual report this week in the one we might never actually get to see. >> well, with the cloud of the russia investigation and frankly a lot more looming large over his president vcy, mr. trump is doubling down on his grievances bringing them off twitter and into the real world once again attacking the late senator john mccain saying he never was and never will be a fan. those come as he sat next to his new friend on the global stage. the so-called trump of the
tropics. mr. trump taking aim at social media companies accusing them without proof of colluding against him and smiling as brazil's president attacked the free press. let's begin with sara murphy who is live in washington with our top story. good morning. >> reporter: prosecutors on mueller's team were facing a deadline to unseal some documents in a case involving paul manafort and they're asking a judge for a delay due to a press of other work. no surprise they do not tell us what that other work is, could there be another investigation we don't know about? could this just be them trying to get their ducks in a row for their final report? this filing doesn't give us any additional details. but we're getting some other signals coming from the justice department. department attorney general rod rosenstein who is due to depart any day now is now staying on a little bit longer. sources say he still wants to be there when the mueller is report finalized and he wants to act as something of a heat shield. he's been the guy that's been overseeing this investigation and he wants to be there, sources say, to absorb any punches that might come along
with the mueller report. we also got a lot more detail just yesterday on the lengths that investigators went to to uncover the criminal attorney michael cohen. hundreds and hundreds of pages of unsealed search warrants show was very soon after mueller was appointed in may, 2017, that they started looking into cohen and monitoring his activity, digging back years into his gmail accounts, even tracing who he was making calls to and receiving phone calls from. but the real dirt that we want to know in these search warrants is, of course, redacted. nearly 20 pages about that illegal campaign contribution that michael cohen pleaded guilty to making, the one he implicated president trump in saying that donald trump directed him to make these hush-money payments to women to hide his alleged affairs and of course president trump denies these affairs. back to you, erica. >> sara murray with the latest for us. thank you. joining us now, ellie hone anything, former federal prosecutor.
i want to start with what we heard this morning from chairman coming cummings. not a single piece of paper has been turned over. maybe not a surprise that they're not cooperating but not a single sheet of paper? >> they're sort of throwing down a gaunt less for congress saying we're not going to play with you. the ball is back in representative kcummings court, what is he going to do? i think the counterresponse here could be executive privilege, we're the white house, our internal communications privileged, you don't get it. so that could be a big battle heading to the courts. >> we have got a big battling between two branches of government, that is for sure. also in terms of this mueller filing that sara just told us about, the press of other work, translate that for us. >> so when i was raised as a prosecutor, we were raised with the mantra, the government is always ready. so even if a judge said to you, you're starting trial monday and you knew in your head there was no way i could do it, you would always say the government is
always ready. so it is very rare to say we can't bet it done in time. which is essentially what mueller's team said. which makes me think they must be actually incredibly busy in order to say that. >> does that mean a report? >> could be a report, could be they're working on more charges. i still think there's other people who -- where the shoe's yet to drop. they could be getting ready for that. i'm speculating. but it is really ready for a prosecutor's office to say we're not ready to do this. we're too busy with other business, we'll get to it later. >> lastly, what to you is the biggest headline for these unsealed cohen documents? >> just first of all how much information they had before the april 2018 search warrant. that was sort of the moment when michael cohen came into toufl our attention as a potential criminal target. but they've been up on michael cohen for nine months and that's 269 pages of that certainly warrant. that's all information they had beforehand. but everything was done here by the book. all this conspiracy theory garbage about storm troopers and they broke into michael cohen's office, that search warrant is
how things are done. prosecutors laid out their case, they took it to a judge who found probable cause, everything was done absolutely by the book. >> i should have asked you about this in relationship to mueller's team, but what about rod rosenstein saying? >> heat shield? yeah. they say he's staying as a heat shield. my take is you only need a heat shield if you expect to generate heat. that's how i take it. >> we'll be looking for more. ellie, appreciate as always. john. breaking overnight, the daughter of late senator john mccain is responding to still new attacks on her father by the president of the united states. in a new post on twitter, megan mccain writes as my father always used to say to me [ speaking foreign language ] translate from the latin as you know that means roughly don't let the bastards grind you down. the president's new attacks on the senator came along with the conspiracy theory about social media and approval of an attack on the media by the so-called trump of the tropics. our joe johns is live at the white house with the very latest. joe. >> reporter: john, you know,
when you think about it it's kind of amazing this is a country that faze pays so much attention to its fallen war fighters. we've got veterans day, arlington cemetery, he and we've got a president who never served in the military, got deferments to keep from going to vietnam going after the memory of a fallen american war hero. the president has gone after john mccain before, but never quite like this. >> i was never a fan of john mccain and i never will be. >> reporter: president trump double down on his criticism of senator john mccain more than six months after his death, blaming him for the failure of his effort to repeal obamacare after disparaging him repeatedly over the weekend. >> he told us hours before that he was going to repeal and replace. and then for some reason i think i understand the reason, he ended up going thumbs up. i think that's disgraceful. >> reporter: a former mccain aid telling cnn that conversation never happened. the president's criticism coming
the same day as this hateful message shared by senator mccain's wife, cindy. the sender telling her she's glad her husband is dead before attacking their daughter megan. i just thought your life is spent on your weekends not with your family, not with your friends, but obsessing, obsessing over great men you could never live up to. >> yeah. >> that tells you everything you need to know about his pathetic life. >> reporter: megan tweeting overnight quoting her father with the latin phrase that means don't let the bastards grind you down. president trump once again peddling a conspiracy theory that they're trying to clued to silence conservatives. >> if they're conservatives were if they're republicans in a certain group, there's discrimination. >> reporter: this week, devin nunez sued twitter for more than $250 million claiming the
platform allowed its users to spread false and defamatory statements about him. >> every american should care about this if they care about the first amendment. >> reporter: the president pushing this unfounded claim alongside the controversial president of brazil who touted both leaders' efforts to ensure traditional and family lifestyles. and efforts against gender ideology and fake news. a pleased trump applauding his remarks. >> i'm proud to hear the president use the term fake news. >> and there was even more of the grievance fest. the president went off george conway, the husband of presidential adviser kellyanne conway calling him a loser after george conway questioned the president's mental fitness and tweets. back to you. >> joining us now is margaret talev, and she is traveling with the president to ohio today. margaret, thanks so much for being with us. it's obvious listening to the new leader in brazil that he
knows that the way to president trump's heart is through his ego. >> well, they don't call him trump the tropics for no reason. what you saw on display yesterday was absolutely both leaders signaling very clearly to one another and to their own domestic constituencies that they both see the merits of being on the same page when it comes to the way they talk about legitimate critics in the news business. but i thought what you then saw in return from president trump when the brazilian leader talked about there was a push in his administration now for anti-lgbt policies in brazil. and you did see president trump stand by and rather than say we have our differences and this is one of them but i'm glad you're here, the president sort of left that alone and then you saw him meeting with evangelical leaders at blair house across the street from the white house and so on and so forth.
and so you see both men working on their sort of mutual desires, whether it's venezuela or trade, whatnot, and president trump decidedly be uncritical of any of his policies. >> i'm wondering what your view was of president trump phrasing the president for using the term fake news. he leads a country where dissenters in the past have been killed. >> this has consistently been a troubling issue if you're a journalist, not just in terms of covering the white house, but in terms of its impact on journalist abroad and journalists covering local news all over this country. the country sees this as a political loyalty test or a rhetorical way to rally his base. but for journalist, the idea of trying to discredit legitimate news coverage is troublesome not just because of the journalism business, but because of the impact that it has on the public. the press is just an extension
of the public whose job it is to ask tough questions of people, to hold truth to power, and to inform the citizenry. and so these efforts in the united states are troubling and they're very troubling when they happen around the world as well. >> it was interesting to see the president stand up again yesterday against john mccain who passed away in august. he's just not going to let this go. >> no. he's not bog to lgoing to let i because of the way? mccain had that maverick personality and would sometimes vote against the party, even though president trump has changed kind of the base and the core of the republican party, there are people inside trump space who also felt that way about senator mccain. the president kind of sees it as a win on both ends. we're talking about it, he likes it that we're talking about it because it's repeating the message that he wants to get out. and so, no, i don't think that's going anywhere anytime soon. >> the people who lose are the mccain's. cindy mccain's been getting vile, vile messages on social
media. >> devin nunez isn't the only one. twitter's mean to everyone. >> good point. great to have you. we'll talk to you again in a second. >> thanks, john. stunning revelations about lion air flight. bloomberg reporting an offduty pilot kept that doom plane from crashing just one day before the 737 max 8 went down. melissa bell is live in paris with these breaking details. melissa. >> reporter: erica, what we're hearing, then, is that the very day before that lie yon air crad killing 189 people, it had flown from bali to jakarta and it was thanks to the presence of a man who shouldn't have been there. an offduty pilot who macked to show the pilots who were in charge of that flight essentially how to disable this bit of software that we now know was heart of the crash of the plane the very next day. a system that essentially forces the nose of the plane down that
some pilots are apparently are managing to disable and other pilots tragically not. and the reason that's so interesting right now is that this latest crash of that very same type of boeing, boeing 737 max 8 that took place on march the tenth in ethiopia. here in paris the black boxes of that flight are being looked into. but what we know from a number of different sources is that the trajectories of those two doomed flights were very similar. once again a great deal of attention to this particular bit of software that proved so troubling that is also the subject of an investigation from the transportation department in the united states that is now looking into why or how the faa went through its certification process with a lot of questions about whether two too much of that process was left in the hands of boeing itself. erica. >> all right. i'll take it melissa. melissa bell for us in paris. we're watching this very closely. also we have a cnn exclusive this morning. a new perspective on the terror
attack in new zealand. surveillance video that was report recorded at a mosque, it shows the shooter as he drove to the second mosque and it comes as police say he was planning to carry out a third shooting before he was stopped. we want to warn you that the video and sound is disturbing. ivan watson is in kries church, new zealand, with this exclusive. ivan, what have you seen? >> reporter: good morning, john. new zealand police say the death toll could have been much, much worse if not for the swift work of law enforcement here. this exclusive video obtained by cnn shows that the suspect was shooting at pedestrians while driving between two mosques that were targeted during this terrorist attack. security camera footage from what was soon to become new zealand's darkest day. this video from march 15th shows people casually strolling past at 1:42 in the afternoon. it's filmed from a camera on a
hoe at the located around 300 meters from the al noor mosque. second later a series of gunshots ring out from what appear to be two different types of firearms. and even though this is the start of a deadly terrorist attack, passersby still have no idea what is unfolding nearby. it isn't until nearly four minutes later that pedestrians show signs of alarm. and then, this car appears. the driver honks his horn to get pedestrians' attention and then shoots through the passenger side window at a man on the sidewalk. the hotel owners say they shared this security camera footage with the new zealand police. police won't comment on the video during the ongoing investigation. the camera films this stretch of sidewalk and the footage reveals two important details about the deadliest terrorist attack in new zealand's modern history.
first, within moments of the first recorded gunshot you can hear sirens backing up police statements that they were rushing to the scene within minutes of the first emergency call. but second, the gunman was so desperate to kill that he stopped right here and shot through the window of his own car at victims while en route from the first mosque down the road to a second mosque. and the ground here is still littered with glass from his vehicle. police say these were the actions of a lone gunman who's rampage began with the attack on the al noor mosque and subsequently the linwood mosque. >> we strongly believe we stopped him on the way to a further attack. so lives were saved. >> reporter: police are now revealing additional details about the suspect's plan. >> we're not going to go into those details, you know, i don't wish to traumatize others.
so that will form part of the court case. but we absolutely believe we know where he was doing and we intervened on the way. >> reporter: the security camera footage shows the suspect racing away from the roadside shooting. roughly 15 minutes later, police detained the suspect. his rampage lasted less than half an hour. cut short by a swift police response. yet it wasn't enough to stop this determined killer from claiming at least 50 innocent lives. john and erica, if this suspect who was a self-described white supremacist, if he wanted to divide new zealand society, he failed. the prime minister says that on friday there will be two minutes of silence for the victims of this terror attack all across the country and the muslim call to prayer will also be played on new zealand's national television and radio again to honor this tiny muslim minority of just 1% of the population so
viciously targeted last friday here in christ church. >> thank you for giving us that report. the mueller report could be coming soon. congressional investigations heating up. and new signs this morning the president may be the one winning. we'll discuss next. >> you get nothing. you get nothing. >> john berman not winning. , alli® can help you lose two to three more by preventing about 25% of the fat you eat from being absorbed. for the only fda-approved otc weight loss aid, try alli®. and the golden retriever er are very different. they eat, digest, and process energy differently. at royal canin, we developed over 200 precise formulas to transform every cat and dog into a magnificent animal. royal canin
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frustration with the trump white house in a "washington post" op-ed this morning. he writes, i have sent 12 letters to the white house on a half dozen topics, some routine, some relating to our core national security interests. in response, the white house has refused to hand over any documents or produce any witnesses for interviews. joining us now, john avlon cnn political analyst and anne milgram, former new jersey attorney general and cnn analyst elijah cummings noting not a single piece of paper has been turned over. there's a part of me that reads this and says #shocking not shock. but, ann, you said the white house hasn't even said by the way, we're giving this to you to you on one piece of paper. that's something. >> we do know they're going to fight this. they've hired a ton of lawyers in the white house counsel's office so they're gearing up for it. but to not even respond. to not even write a letter back saying by the way, we think you've overreached or let's have
a discussion about the scope of what you've asked for. they haven't said anything. and so they're really sort of -- they've made a decision that they're just going to stonewall all of that to try to block it. >> they're taking the legal and putting in the political and they're making this a political fight that we're well into it. i think i woke up to that revelation that had this is actually happening now and we haven't been paying enough attention the 'the white house is saying you'll get nothing and like it. >> yes. >> so to quote the judge to the democrats in congress and the democrats have to decide what they're going to do about it. >> i think there will be subpoenas and you'll have a legal fight. the normal fights between the coequal branches that happen over executive privilege and then there's this. which is a combination of we're going to do total obstruction, talk to the hand because that's all you're going to get and probably a theory so they can feel they've got the fig leaf of being able to do whatever they want. but they run into base being problems about precedent. this is not normal. the bush administration fought with democrats and they still turned over plenty of documents.
same with obama and republicans in the house at the time. this is something that's yet another total departure from democratic norms and it's going to go to the courts. but this is -- don't be fooled into thinking this is something the president can do. it's something the president wants to be able to do and we'll see how it plays out. >> what i don't know, and i wasn't trying to make light of it as all quoting judge smals, i think it's very significant that it's playing out before our very eyes. and i dorcn't think that it's normal and i think that republicans on capitol hill are giving the president cover. >> first time around they basically had a -- they took their spine out, they stopped acting like a coequal branch of government designed to keep the executive in check, they rolled for the president from the intelligence kmicommittee down now they're providing defense. this is not normal. >> i agree with john. i also think having worked on the hill that it sets a terrible precedent for future administrations when the political parties will change. and thing to remember is that they're going to fight this.
the democrats in congress now have to fight it and it's going to go to the court and the court's going to look at the fact that they wouldn't have a conversation or negotiate on this. my view is the court will not be happy with that. there's a -- it's reasonable to say it's too broad, let's have a conversation to narrow it. it's not reasonable to say there's no conversation. >> and the president can talk presidential harassment, there are some things that are narrow, there are other things that are objectively national security and that's no joking aroundnd at american people deserve to vin sighting to see whether, for example, nuclear technology was passed to saudi arabia on an expedited track. that's not about individual pernts and politics, that's about national security. >> there are the politics angles, the court of public opinion angles that the white house likes to play into to too. you can see chairman cummings setting up with that look at what happened with the bush 43 white house, look at what happened with the obama white house and benghazi and all the documents that were turned over. and if you claim presidential ma ras meant, it's not. it is an absolute overreach
they're saying and bringing back the president's words, i'm just going to blame them, is any of that going to work? >> well, i think if you look kbat wh at what they've done, they've basically sent letters they could have just issued subpoenas and said we want these documents from everyone. they're clearly trying to show the american public we're going to start as calmly and sort of with colleaguality as we can. so now when they rachet up to subpoenas, it will be clear this don't have a choice except to go to the court. >> what's the time frame here? >> this is the problem is that we've seen this. we saw it under bush, we saw it under obama that one of the reasons they hire so many lawyers is that they can have these really lengthy court fights and they really can stop in some ways in a way that i think is problematic information from going to congress that has rightful oversight. what the democrats will have to do is push as fast as they can for the courts to rule and make
decisions and the question is will the courts comply? >> and to your point, partly what the administration may be doing is seeing if they can run out the clock to the election. >> sure. >> that could be their plan. so you just do total obstruction under the cover of executive privilege to see if you can get past the election so the information isn't out for the american people to judge. >> my offer is nothing. >> yeah. >> willie wonka. >> what's that quote again? >> you get nothing. >> i like it. >> willie wonka and smails are like this. you can take a tlook. >> i'm curious about the intersection with the mueller investigation as well. because, as we know, william barr, bill barr, the attorney general, will get the report first, maybe soon, like this week soon. and then the white house wants to make claims of executive privilege. it seems to me the white house wants to delay any part of that becoming public just as much as any of the congressional requests. >> completely. i would assume there's going to be litigation there too. the challenge with executive
privilege is that the president gets to assert it and then a court gets to decide. and so it's not as simple as just saying does the report get turned over or not. they'll exert, you know, it could be hundreds of place where's they think executive privilege should be -- should basically mean that parts of the report get blocked out or don't get turned over and then they're going to litigate whether or not it is privileged. everything is not privileged. there's a lot of things that will have been part of this that are not going to be privileged. >> but then we run out another clock. >> yes. and that could take a long time. >> one of the things very clear is the starr report model we saw with the independent counsel, that train has sailed. that's not happening. but the big question will be what information is out there? what's necessary for questions of impeachment? and the fight that's going to come down is epic. but we're not going to see that kind of really great detail out of the gate. >> and one way this comes back is that the house will subpoena all of the mueller evidence and p the and so remember that the president can say we're not turning over anything to you, but other people and institutions will provide that information. so i think, you know, it's going to be a fight sort of on two
fronts. >> no soup for you, that's one more to add to the list there. all right. anne, john, thank you very much. a quick programming note. cnn will host a town hall with gormer governor john hickenlooper. dana bash airs that at 10:00 p.m. eastern. the charges against patriots owner robert kraft could be dropped by prosecutors. there is a catch, though. that's next. so recently my son's band was signed by a record label. while we're on the road, i can keep my parents in the loop with the whole facetime thing. i created a rockstar. (both laughing) (vo) there when it matters. get iphone xr on us when you buy the latest iphone. on verizon.
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kraft will actually take this deal. it's important to note that he pleaded not guilty but if, and that's a big if, he does take this deal, this would mean no jail and no conviction. a source tells cnn that florida prosecutors are offering to drop two charges against patriots owner robert kraft if he admits he's guilty of soliciting a prostitute. the 77-year-old billionaire is among more than a hundred people linked to several florida spas and massage particle lors suspected of being used for prostitution and sex trafficking. >> it's about time the country has a real conversation about human trafficking, which is modern day slavery in our midst in the is not about lonely old man. >> reporter: police say kraft was seen on camera in paid sexual acts at the orchids of day spa? jupiter, florida, twice before the game that sent them to the
super bowl. a spokesperson has categorically denied any activity. but president trump a long time friend, appears to be standing behind kraft. >> it's very sad. i was very surprised to see it. he's proclaimed his innocence totally and, but i'm very surprised to see it. >> reporter: the former owner of that spa, cindy yang, attended president trump's super bowl party earlier this year posing for this selfie with the president. yang has been a familiar face in republican circles taking pictures with mr. trump's sons at mar-a-lago. kellyanne conway at the inauguration, and even sarah palin. four high-ranking democrats are calling for the fbi to conduct criminal and counterintelligence allegations against yang including how many man tasking, potential campaign finance violations and foreign lobbying. >> she doesn't answer the question of whether she knew that there was sex happening, she simply told us that she's no
longer in the spa business, she doesn't know president trump, and she's planning to move to washington, d.c. >> reporter: we've reached out to kraft's attorneys and to prosecutors and they are tight lipped about this agreement. now, kraft's arraignment is scheduled for next week and, john, the other thing that's happening next week, as you know, is the nfl's annual meeting. john. >> thank you very much for that update. waiting to hear what bob kraft decides. in the meantime, a major clue bomb from the special counsel. a press of work this week had the does that mean the mueller report semment like days, perhaps even hours away? more on it, next. us as people.
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clapper, former director of national intelligence and the name national security analyst. you know when a lawyer for robert mueller says he can't get something else done because he has a press of work this week, director, people get the idea that something major might be coming. how do you see it? >> well, john, just like everybody else, i'm trying to read the tantalizing tae leavea from all these bread crumbs which is an apartment metaphor. i've often said when i've been asked in the past about this that all i'll say is that i think mueller is much closer to the end of his investigation than he is to the beginning. and that's about it. i think it has been very consistent that we haven't -- we really don't know what he knows and it's clear that he knows a lot more than is out there in the public domain. so i'm reluctant to postulate what this all might mean. but i don't think the
investigation is -- is -- the conclusion of it is eminent. >> he knows a lot more than we do might be an understatement based on what we saw yesterday with the michael cohen revelations, the release of some of the information surrounding the search warrants. one of the thing is we learned how far back the mueller team had been looking at michael cohen, as far back as may, 2017. we have a timeline. you can just see the steps they took before the ultimate raid there. so this was in the works for a long time despite what the white house had said when the raid happened. they were sort of indicating that it was capricious, some sudden move. the other thing, this is where i can tap into your expertise here. we learned the many different ways that the special counsel was investigating michael cohen. his e-mails, his cell phone records, all kinds of digital information in the cloud. and based on your decades of experience in intelligence gathering, how much, then, do you think that robert mueller knows about what michael cohen was connected to? >> well, i think the short answer is a lot.
and what the techniques that you briefly mentioned here are fairly standard, particularly with respect to counterterrorism investigations. so-called what we call call chaining where you put a suspect or target, a ct suspect, for example, in the center of a diagram and then draw out the branches of with whom he or she is communicating. and you can draw intensity lines based on the frequency and length of calls. so there's a great deal that you can derive from this technique and this approach, even though you're not able to reconstruct, perhaps, the content of those conversations. but it's very revealing when you know who your target, your suspect is communicating with, how frequently, and the length of those phone calls. >> and for better or worse -- >> but it's clear -- >> i was going to say, director, it's for better or worse with
regards to the res, if the president or candidate donald trump or businessman donald trump was engaged in any illegal activity in communicating about it with michael cohen, the special counsel knows? >> well, exactly. and, of course, now that, you know, michael cohen transitions to be -- to be a cooperating witness, when you have evidence of -- empirical evidence of the communications patterns, that enables some pretty pointed questions that investigators could ask michael cohen once he became cooperative. and it is, i think, interesting and also quite significant that how soon the mueller investigation zeroed in on michael cohen. i think both for his own wrongdoing as well as, of course, the potential connection with then candidate trump. >> what do you make of what seems to be the white house strategy coming to light in regards to congressional
requests for documents and testimony? the response we've been talking about all morning seems to be you get nothing. >> well, i, frankly, expected that because of the breadth and depth of what they were asking for. it might have had -- i guess i'll second guess, but might have had more prospect for success had the request for documents been more pointed or more specific. but this broad blanket that they cast, i thought this was a predictable reaction from the white house. >> i want to tap into your national security and foreign policy expertise here. the president yesterday said he wants to make brazil a major non-nato ally. what's the significance there? >> well, i'm not sure. you know, if -- it appears that the reason for this is just
because they have a much in common idea lomggically and the have that in common. so i'm not sure who is threatening brazil or what that means, does it mean more enhanced against sharing, for example, in the same way we share intelligence with nato? i honestly don't know ha it means. >> director james clapper, thank you so much for being with us this morning. >> thanks, john. >> erica. it could be a cure for something that affects thousands of new mothers. dr. sanjay gupta joining us next to talk about a break-through treatment for post partum depression. oved alli®. for every 5 lbs you lose, alli® can help you lose two to three more by preventing about 25% of the fat you eat from being absorbed. for the only fda-approved otc weight loss aid, try alli®. man: seven more weeks.
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break-through therapy i guess in 2016. the new drug just getting approval. what is it? what will it do? how does it work? >> this is the first. you think about post partum depression. a lot of people know how serious it can be, but this is the first time a drug has been approved specifically for this. that alone say pretty big deal. what it is, it's called zulresso is going to be the trade name. it's an iv drug. you have to go into a clip cal hospital or clinic and get an iv. you have to get it for 60 hours, erika. 60 hours of this medication, and it seems to cause pretty dramatic and rapid reversal of depression symptoms. as you know, typically it can take weeks for antidepress assistants to kick in. the thought was that, look, that's just too long. some of these women are really suffering now, they're unable to care for themselves, unable to care for their children, need to have something that can work more quickly. you just saw some of the results there. the biggest headline for me was that this can work within 48
hours. you're getting the iv for 60 hours. during that time women have these reversal drand matand dra decrease in symptoms. 94% it lasted at least a month. >> wow. >> you typically think of medications you take a pill or two every day, one iv infusion at least a month of relief. >> and hopefully that will help get them to an easier point and then there can be other prescription drugs that may be used in conjunction? >> that's right. so it doesn't mean that your you necessarily stop the other antidepress ants. you take this by the point that this may start to wear off, the other medications may start to kick in. that seems to be the thinking here. >> for women, i know this just from discussions with my own girlfriends too, there's always this question of how do i know that it's post partum depression versus baby blues? >> it can be challenging. and one thing i'll say is that we talked to people even last night about this. baby blues is something that
most women get. at the time you deliver a baby, you have such a rapid change in hormones, it can drop ten fold literally at the time of delivery. that's probably in part driving some of these depressive like symptoms. the biggest difference is the variety, you lose all interest in caring for yourself, caring for the baby, and also the length at which these symptoms last. baby blues typically go away within the first week. these symptoms can last months. there's a third of woman who it just becomes chronic. you can take a look at the list there. but the inability to care for yourself, the inability to engage of activities of daily living. and one thing i want to say about the drug as well, in addition to it being 60 hours, this is not a cheap drug. >> no. >> i mean, this is something that comes over and over again when we do these segments, but it's important to point out. $34,000 for a single dose of this, you have to have it administered in a clinic or a hospital. that doesn't even count the cost of that. so most insurers may cover this,
we don't know, but it's a very, very expensive endeavor if you're going do this. >> even if they cover we don't know the extent. $34,000 is nothing to sneeze at, that's for sure. but as you point out, a really important development. always good to see you. thank you. >> thank you. you can join sanjay as he journeys around the world to finding the secrets do living better. it's a new series chasing life and it premieres saturday, april 13th at 9:00 p.m. eastern only an cnn. >> and it looks awesome. >> it does. i would like to take the journey next time. for next season i'll help out. i'll carry the gear. >> he looks so rugged, right? >> he said it's all makeup. appearance all smoke and mirrors. >> rugged sanjay gupta. not a single page. house democrats say the white house significant norg requests from documents. you get nothing. so how will democrats respond next. - [woman] with my shark, i deep clean messes like this.
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? >> it would not surprise me if we saw something before the end of this month. >> the mueller team started looking at cohen just months after mueller was appointed. >> the most intrusive tactic is reading somebody's e-mail and listening to their phone calls. they must have had some mud on him. >> he didn't repeal and replace obamacare. that's disgraceful. >> when the president lashes out, you take on a boarrage of special media attacks. >> he's very sincere. he still doesn't care for john mccain. there's an authenticity about that. >> he is attacking a national hero. that's plain disgusting. >> announcer: this is new day with alisyn camerota and john berman. good morning and welcome to your new day. alisyn is off. erica hill joibs ns me this morning. new this morning you'll get nothing and like it. that seems to be what the white house is saying in response to congressional requests for documents and testimony on a range