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you will be. thanks very much for that report. and to our viewers, thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." you can tweet the show at cnn sit room. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, president trump attacks a mueller victory lap. now turning his sights to killing obamacare. plus, mueller's report could be made public in weeks. not months. and tonight we are learning the white house may not get a chance to see it before you do. and a boeing 737 max, the same plane involved in two fatal crashes just forced to make an emergency landing in the united states. let's go "outfront." and good evening, ime i'm e burnett. president trump trying to capitalize on his mueller moment. >> the mueller report was great. it could not have been better.
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>> of course. the president has not yet seen the mueller report. but his definitive answer that it could not have been better is one heck of a change from the more than 1,100 times trump attacked mueller on the investigation over the past two years. the "new york times" counted his attacks, all of those witch hunts and hoaxes added up to 1,100. now, though, it's all great. and the president is trying to make sure this moment does not pass him by. his justice department want to backing a decision to scrap the entire affordable care act, preexisting conditions and all. and the president is loving it. >> the republican party will soon be known as the party of health care. you watch. >> you watch. watch what? i mean, so far, president trump has provided no plan and not one single specific. even though since president trump took office, support for obamacare has grown. according to the kaiser foundation, which has been tracking the views of obamacare
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since the beginning, the unfavorable rating now at one of the lowest points since signed into law all the way to 39%, taking this as a big risk for trump. because if he gets rid of obamacare, he gets rid of preexisting conditions. and that would be extremely unpopular. and it would also be going against his own word. >> except preexisting condition, i would absolutely get rid of obamacare. we're going to have something much better. but preexisting conditions, i want to keep preexisting condition. i think we need it. i think it's a modern age. and i think we have to have it. >> just to be clear again, today he backed a judge's decision that would strike down the entire aca, including preexisting conditions coverage. so it is not just a promise he made there in the debates, right? it's a promise that the president made just a few months ago, again and again. heading into the mid terms. >> republicans will always protect patients with
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preexisting conditions. i wish people would get that into their heads. we will always protect patients with preexisting conditions, always. always. >> the preexisting conditions and all the other things we're with 100%. >> 100%. try 0% if the president gets his way, backing a judge's ruling that gets rid of obamacare, including preexisting conditions, a fight democrats are loving. according to exit polling, 4 out of 10 voters said health care was the most important issue and democrats won. the president could try to eventually come around and say, okay, now i want health care that covers preexisting conditions again. but he's got to pay for it, which, of course, is the whole problem to begin with on this one. and reality is not stopping trump from trying to seize his mueller moment. kaitlan collins is "outfront" live outside the white house. and kaitlan, the president in a great mood on capitol hill today. >> reporter: certainly in high
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spirits, essentially taking one more victory lap as we went to the lunch today, thanked the republican senators for sticking by him during this investigation. and said, erin, he feels like he got a good, clean bill of health from the mueller investigation. now, he told those republicans he wanted to move on to other issues like health care, but as you noted, didn't provide any kind of concrete steps for that. but also he made clear that he's not putting this russia investigation behind him. he wants to use it as a political weapon, and right now the president and his aides and his allies are really enjoying the position they feel democrats are in right now. straddling essentially calls to make this report public, but also to move on to other issues like health care and education ahead of the next upcoming presidential election. now, just to give a sense of how much the president is in a good mood and how much he's enjoying this, he doesn't often go to these lunches. very rarely does the president go to capitol hill for this policy lunch. instead it's something typically mike pence tends to do. but the president went up there and he wanted to make a point, erin. >> he sure did.
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and enjoying his moment, crowing from the mountaintops. thank you very much, kaitlan. and i want to go now to democratic presidential candidate, julian castro, who served as the secretary of housing and urban development under president obama, as well. secretary, thank you for being with me. look, you heard the president say the republican party will soon be known as the party of health care. you watch. what's your response? >> i would say that i would add in no health care. the republican party is going to be known as the party of taking health care away from millions of americans. this is stunning, erin. that this administration is going completely against the will of the people. going against the will of congress. and trying to pull the rug out from under millions and millions of american families. people who have preexisting conditions, who are only able to get health insurance, able to afford health insurance because
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the affordable care act says you cannot consider preexisting conditions to those health insurers. so basically, this administration and the republican party wants to go back to the bad old days where people couldn't get health insurance if they had a preexisting condition, where folks were not able to stay on their parents' plan until the age of 26. they got thrown off a lot earlier. and generally, where millions and millions of people less had health insurance. i mean, the affordable care act at one time before this administration started to sabotage it, 20 million more people were able to get affordable health care coverage. that had been amazing. and it is something else to watch a president and a party that get their kicks out of hurting people, whether it's with health care or those children that they're separating from their families at the border. it is just amazing to watch. >> and, of course, you know, when they got rid of the mandate, but, you know, left the obamacare options in place.
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you know, premiums have surged. they are completely unaffordable for a lot of people, because you got rid of the mechanism for paying for the coverage. you've been looking at this problem and i know you support medicare for all. secretary, there's a new poll from quinnipiac, and it asked americans if replacing the current system with medicare for all, which is a good catch phrase, thrown around, is it a good idea. 43% of people say it is. 45% say the opposite. they say it's a bad idea. are you worried that the party is going too far left? that medicare for all may sound good, but it's scaring people? >> you know, i grew up with a grandmother that had diabetes. and before she passed away in early 1996, she had to have one of her feet amputated, which is very common for diabetics. but that entire time she had medicare. i want to make medicare stronger for everybody that's on it, and make sure that everybody can have access to medicare.
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i believe that if somebody wants to have a private insurance plan that they should be able to do that. but what i don't believe is that anybody in this country should ever go without health care, not health insurance, but actual health care and medication when they need it. when countries around the world have been able to figure this out a long time ago. so, you know, is this a debate that should see the light of day. i think that as people understand more and more about what this would mean for them and for their family and for families across the country, that a lot of americans do support it. because they recognize that the system that we have today is broken, especially and a great example today. this administration has sabotaged health care for millions of americans. >> i want to -- part of the reason this is coming up today is the president went to capitol hill, he embraced it, publicly backing the judge overturning obamacare, including preexisting conditions. and he is doing so because he is vindicated.
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he feels by what we have heard from the mueller report. here's how he put it. >> the mueller report was great. it could not have been better. >> of course, look -- the president has not seen the actual report. nor have we. just the barr summary. but so far, can you admit that he's right? it could not have been better for him? >> well, of course, we can't say that. we don't know what's actually in the report other than the summary from the attorney general. and with as much lying as this administration has done, why would we trust the summary of this report without actually seeing the report? i'm not saying that the report says, yes, he did it. you know -- i'm inclined to believe the attorney general when he says that it did not find that there was collusion. however, i'm not prepared to say that i believe that the report did not point out some facts that we don't know about. some actions that the president has taken or folks within his inner circle that suggest they
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were trying to court or benefit from russian interference. >> but you're not saying bill barr is a liar. >> i'm not. >> no. >> no, i'm not. i'm just saying that i think people have seen plenty of times during this administration exaggerations, you know, leaving information out. sometimes outright lies. what i'm saying is that the american people, and certainly the united states congress, deserves to see the full contents of the mueller report. and if people will think back, folks will remember, most of these reports, these blockbuster reports throughout the years have actually been made public. it would be precedent-setting if this kind of report did not get made public, and that's the only way that we're going to know that we're getting the full truth. >> before we go, i want to ask you about the green new deal. it's a concept you have supported. we spoke to pennsylvania voters. these are all people who voted for president obama and then voted for president trump. and they specifically now associate green new deal with
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alexandria ocasio-cortez and here's what they had to say about it. >> i think she's too bizarre. >> too bizarre. >> yes, yes, i think she's ridiculous. be more realistic. >> they want to get all this environment products done in ten years and it's impossible. you lose jobs, you lose wages, you lose your economy. >> i don't agree with the way the direction they're going. even more now. they're trying to -- they're more liberal. they're attempting to be socialists. >> is congresswoman ocasio-cortez hurting your chance to win the white house? >> i don't think so. first of all let me say that congresswoman ocasio-cortez has been a breath of fresh air for the democratic party. she has brought a lot of great ideas, new ideas. not only that, she's lived a life with the ability to understand families that are
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struggling. and, you know, i'm a fan of the green new deal. i agree with the concept of it. now, between the time when it's proposed and if it were to be implemented, of course, there will be negotiation that's involved in that. but here's the thing. this administration wants us to think that we cannot both protect our planet and create new jobs. we can see that by embracing renewable energy, embracing sustainability, that we can actually do both of those things here. here in texas, for instance, the solar industry, wind energy industry, in places like iowa that obviously i've been visiting a lot. >> yes. >> the wind energy industry. so don't let anybody tell you that you can't both create new jobs, generate a lot of economic growth and also do what's right to protect our planet. we can do those things. >> all right. i appreciate your time. secretary castro, thanks. >> thank you. and next, weeks, not months, until the public sees the mueller report. so will the president be
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can be a little more... like plants. ♪ new tonight, we will see the report in weeks, not months. a justice department official confirming tonight that weeks -- that's how long it should take to release a public version of special counsel robert mueller's report. obviously, version is a word that can mean different things to different people. still a significant development. also, we are told there are no plans to release a copy of the report in advance. bill barr released his summary of the report. there are still so many questions about the report, barr's letter about the report and the exact words, because, gosh, words matter. i want to go through the letter in detail and go through the crucial words that will matter so much for all americans and see what it tells us and what it doesn't. "outfront" now, former general counsel for the director of national intelligence and former deputy assistant attorney general for the justice
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department's criminal division, bob lit. garrett graff and former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, harry sanvick. harry, let's start with the letter as we have it here, okay? and i want to go through the section on collusion. because it broke down into a couple of parts. so collusion first. what barr says about mueller's decision. so barr writes, quote, the special counsel's investigation did not find that the trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 u.s. presidential election as the report states, quote, the investigation did not establish that members of the trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the russian government in its election interference activities. now, harry, mueller uses this word, establish. does the word establish open up the door to the possibility that there was evidence of collusion? in fact, there could have been quite a lot of it, but it fell short of the final legal line of
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conclusion. >> that's how i understand it. or at least that it's possible that there is that quantum of evidence. something less than beyond a reasonable doubt, less than a prosecutor would require. but still evidence. the letter also says early on that they obtained -- they being the mueller team, something like 500 search warrants. to get a search warrant, you need to show probable cause that a crime has been committed. so probable cause isn't no evidence. it's some evidence. it may not be enough. no prosecutor would indict a case based on that. it may also be the wording of that sentence and other sentences. you know, russian national figures, or could it be conspiring with other people who are not russian government figures. could there be some involvement of wikileaks. >> some derivative. okay. >> exactly. >> and it's interesting when you say, you know, the 500 warrants, right? >> yep. >> there clearly was something to get there. i mean, bob, let me just take a look more closely at the end of the two sentences. from that part of the report. okay, the first one, as i read,
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barr writes the sentence himself, right? >> right. >> and then he quotes directly from mueller's report. so just to be clear to the viewer, the difference between the two when you look at the words between the two sentences is barr is definitive, there was no conspiracy. mueller says in his exact quote, he did not establish conspiracy. why is this word "establish" important? >> i think it's important, if you look later in barr's letter when he talks about the decision he and the deputy attorney general made with respect to obstruction of justice, he uses the same word. he said he and the deputy attorney general concluded that the evidence is not sufficient to establish that the president committed an obstruction of justice offense. we know from the letter that there was substantial evidence of obstruction of justice. enough that the special counsel felt he wouldn't even make a determination. so this suggests that mueller's report is at least consistent with the idea that there was considerable evidence. but as harry said, not enough to
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warrant a prosecution. we won't know until we see the report. >> no. that's very interesting. when you look at the word. and in one case that means there was a lot. and in the other, as we point out on the discussion of conspiracy and collusion. garrett, that partial sentence i just quoted where barr quotes mueller on establishing conspiracy, it's just one of a few places where barr quotes mueller. there is about 65 words in total. i know you counted them. i went through and was trying to recount. about what i got. 63, i think. none of them are complete sentences, pretty much. what conclusions do you take from that? >> so i think that it really is important to understand, we don't know what the mueller report says. what we have seen is the with barr report on the mueller report. and the fact that he's quoting these partial sentences in many ways likely means that the total sentences are even more nuanced than what we are actually seeing in the letter. either potentially more nuanced
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or potentially even more incriminating than what we are seeing in the letter. you know, i think harry is right to point out, you know, that there's also appears to be sort of this very narrow definition of collusion and conspiracy in here, where it's an agreement with the russian government. whereas what we know is that many of the officials who were meeting with russians through the campaign and the transition were russian business people. were russian lawyers. were russian developers. and so there's sort of -- and we know, of course, remember, from michael cohen's testimony that, you know, trump likes to speak in code. so it seems like there was a very high bar, as there should be in a lot of federal prosecutions like this. >> yeah. >> for something that might have actually been a much more nebulous series of conversations, hence the evidence that could point to something without actually establishing it. >> right.
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so, okay. so that is on the issue of conspiracy and collusion with russians. on the issue, harry, of obstruction of justice, which you are all three now alluding to. bill barr, of course, notes that mueller did not make a conclusion. and let me quote again from a letter because this sentence could be important. deputy attorney general rod rosenstein and i have concluded that the evidence developed during the special counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the president committed an obstruction of justice offense. in making this determination, we noted that the special counsel recognized that the evidence -- again, here he's quoting mueller -- the evidence does not establish that the president was involved in the underlying crime related to russian election interference. and that -- now we're out of quotes. while not determinative, it bears upon the president's intent with respect to obstruction. so first, want to play rudy guiliani in a moment. first let me give you a chance to respond to that. basically saying no underlying crime. >> uh-huh. >> thus, you can't have
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obstruction. >> you know, that really should not be a leading factor, in my view, in deciding whether to charge obstruction. law, logic and experience all tell us this. the statute for obstruction does not require there to have been underlying conviction or even underlying crime if you lie in an investigation. logically, you wouldn't want to have that rule, because it would mean that if you obstructed justice so utterly that no charges could be brought, you could then also not be prosecuted for obstruction. that would be an odd outcome. and as everyone has pointed out, experience. the martha stewart case, barry bonds, bill clinton's own impeachment. these are all instances where people were prosecuted, to to speak, for obstruction. and there was no underlying crime. >> so that argument, bob, is one that president trump's lawyer, rudy guiliani, tried to make to wolf tonight here on cnn. saying, look, there is no underlying crime, so nothing to see here. who cares if he obstructed. here is rudy guiliani. >> one of the things the attorney general picks up on.
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there was no underlying crime. the attorney general says, quite correctly, it's very hard to find intent when there is not an underlying crime. you can -- >> with martha stewart, she didn't engage in insider trading but wound up in jail because she lied about it. >> although there was a very close case of insider trading involving martha stewart. this case, there's no case of collusion. >> bob? >> well, i think what rudy guiliani, who is my former boss in the southern district of new york -- what he said at the end there, i think gives the issue away here. when he says there was a very close case about an insider trading against martha stewart. so somebody can be worried about the possibility that there's a case, even if it turns out that ultimately there is not a case. and that for all we know would have been what happened here. i do think it's important to be fair to barr and not overread his letter. he is quite clear that he doesn't think the absence of an underlying crime is dispositive. he thinks that it's relevant to the issue of motive and intent
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and i think every prosecutor would agree that it is a relevant factor. whether it deserves the way he assigned to it here, again, as everybody has commented so far, we won't know until we see the report itself. >> and, of course, garrett, the bottom line issue while we're talking about this is that mueller did not reach a conclusion on obstruction, decided he wasn't going to do it. he essentially punted it, right? as barr writes, quote, the special counsel ultimately determined not to make a prosecutorial judgment. the special counsel did not draw a conclusion one way or the other as to whether the examined conduct constituted obstruction. now, obviously mueller could have made the decision or recommendation. you're saying there's a chance, though, garrett, that mueller did not believe that he had to make the decision here ultimately on obstruction of justice. why not? >> yeah. this is a case where i think it's really important to see what -- how bob mueller frames this question in his own report in his own words.
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because if mueller is operating under the assumption and the policy that the -- that the justice department cannot indict a sitting president, which is the standing office of legal counsel opinion and policy and guideline inside the justice department right now, then mueller might have been sitting there saying, i'm never going to bring an obstruction case. and, in fact, what might job is, is to be the independent fact-finder who can turn over the evidence to congress, where this case is supposed to be settled, according to the constitution and the olc opinion anyway, which is this is a political impeachment question, not a criminal one. >> right. which, of course, you know, then you've got this mediation that occurred by the attorney general, bill barr. we'll see the report and what congress chooses to do with it. thank you all. and next, house speaker nancy pelosi making it crystal-clear that impeachment is not on the table. but, wow, there are some in her caucus who do not agree, even now.
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above the law. we need to see the report. >> she's also attempting to walk a line on the mueller report, calling for a full release, and telling democrats to move on to policy issues at the same time as they're pounding the table. "outfront," david gergen presidential adviser and april ryan for american urban radio networks. david, what do you make of this? the house speaker saying, don't take bill barr at his word. yes, he's a political appointee. but that is a stunning statement to make. is it going to play well or just look like sour grapes? >> oh, i think to an awful lot of independents, especially trump -- anti trump voters, they're going to welcome that. i mean, both sides are trading, you know -- the republicans are accusing journalists and democrats of being treacherous in all of this -- traitorous. and so i think that's part of the normal give and take. but i must tell you, overall, democrats should thank their lucky stars that nancy pelosi is
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the speaker right now. she has definitely steered them -- this party, which can be fractious, away from going over a cliff on several issues, starting with this. but also on this health care. she seized upon it today in a very smart way. >> so april, you know, on this keeping them in line, okay, maybe she gives a nod to saying bill barr isn't being forthright or whatever it is, which seems a little out there. because she needs to give a nod to people like rashida tlaib, the congresswomen circulating to democrats. i firmly believe that the house committee on judiciary should seek out whether president trump has committed high crimes and misdemeanors as designated by the u.s. constitution, and if the facts support those findings that congress begin impeachment proceedings. okay, there's ifs in there. is this the time? you've got people in the party pushing for impeachment after that letter from bill barr. >> yeah. well, you know, nancy pelosi -- i'm going to say this, and david is absolutely right about how
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she is the calm in the storm to help people try to -- try to help people see clearly. what nancy pelosi is doing is trying to bring some peace, because if they overreach, this could be a gift for donald trump in 2020. the elections are coming up. we've got a long time between now and 2020 elections. but this is playing in it. and if you do go after this president at this moment, when there's still a contradiction, he was found not to have colluded or conspired with russia. however, the issue of obstruction of justice is still lingering and we still don't know what's going on. so you really theoretically cannot scream impeachment at this time. but at the same time, taking the politics away from it, erin, taking the politics away from it, if you look at it, the people of the united states need to see this document from bob mueller. because there's so many contradictions already without the report coming out. the president is saying he's totally vindicated.
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the justice department is saying, well, there is still the issue of obstruction. you were vindicated on collusion. so the people -- beyond the politics and the optics, people need to see it just to find out what's really there. >> right, right. and, of course, you know, even on the issue of collusion as we talk about the word choice that bill barr uses, it leaves open the door for no evidence or a whole lot of evidence, just shy of a legal conspiracy standard. we just don't know, as april points out, until we see the report. but david, democrats are -- some of them, sticking their neck out. denny heck on the intelligence committee, despite what we've got from barr, ease nhe's not b off that the walls are closing in on president trump. here's congressmen heck. >> i think it's hard to look at the accumulation of the number of people in and around him that are closest to him that are going to jail, and conclude anything other than the amount of corruption that associates with this president is beyond any modern historic precedent. >> i mean, david, here's the
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question. how risky politically is the stand that democrats -- some democrats, like congressman heck or even further to the left, congresswoman tlaib are taking? they've got their base but have to worry about people in the middle and they have to worry about turnout in 2020. do comments like this turn people off or turn people on? >> they -- that they cumulate, they turn people off. i think we should go back to what happened in midterm elections for a political counsel. and, you know, in case after case, democrats won hard districts by talking about health care and infrastructure and education and other issues like that. and talking occasionally about the mueller investigation. but not making that first priority. that is very good guidance for where they ought to be now and i think nancy pelosi sees that. that they are going to do much better in this election if they are not seen as piling on to trump and spending their next
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two years looking at the end trails of the mueller report but instead talking about the future and keeping an eye on and pushing forward some of the investigations. but not beating the drum. not making it the lead story every night. >> so april, george conway obviously -- well-known conservative lawyer involved with the starr report and also of course married to ankkellyan conway. and says trump is guilty of being unfit for office. he writes, quote, if his report doesn't exonerate the president there must be something pretty damning in it about the president. reading that statement together with the no exoneration statement, it's hard to escape the conclusion that mueller wrote his report to allow the american people and congress to decide what to make the facts, and that is what should, must happen now. april, will republicans in congress back that point of view? that it is not some highly redacted bits and pieces, but all of the report which must be given to the american people?
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>> erin, okay. on the first piece, president trump, republicans have said this behind closed doors and democrats are saying it out loud in your face. this president is a flawed man. we know this. we know this. we still have to wait for the report. we have to see -- and i hate saying that. but you cannot draw a conclusion on something until we see the report. we thought that mueller was goodbye to go like ken starr. throw everything in there. he just followed the original mandate of collusion and left the rest to southern district. and left the rest to congress, oversight, intel and judiciary. we have got to wait for that report. and we need to see that report. i'm one of those. i hope want to see it. it's newsy. the american public needs to see it. >> thank you both very much. and next, boeing 737 max, the same plane that's been involved in two deadly crashes, just forced to make an emergency landing right here in the united states. we have the latest on that as that just happened. plus, outrage after
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prosecutors drop all charges and not for the reasons you may think. against the "empire" actor who claimed to be the victim of a racist and homophobic attack. ♪
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new tonight, prosecutors drop all charges against jussie smollett even though they say
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smollett is not innocent. the reversal coming two months after the police said the actor staged a hate crime against himself. ryan young is "outfront." >> this is a white wash of justice. a grand jury could not have been clearer. >> tonight, chicago officials furious. >> do i think justice was served? no. wh where do i think justice is? i think this city is still owed an apology. >> police not notified of a dramatic ve dramatic reversal that prosecutors dropped all charges against jussie smollett after he was accused of setting up a hate crime. smollett's claim was a hoax. the state sealing all the evidence in the case, no longer accessible to the public. >> it chose to hide behind secrecy and broker a deal. my job as a police officer is to investigate an incident, gather
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evidence, gather the facts and present them to the state's attorney. that's what we did. i stand behind the detectives' investigation. >> today smollett, who has always maintained his innocence, took a victory lap at the courthouse. >> i've been truthful and consistent on every single level since day one. i would not be my mother's son if i was capable of one drop of what i've been accused of. >> the state's attorneys office says the facts of the case and smollett's record were used to make a decision to drop charges. >> also keeping in mind our resources and keeping in mind that the office's number one priority is to combat violent crime and the drivers of violence. i decided to offer this disposition in the case. >> smollett's lawyers earlier pointing fingers at chicago police. >> we have nothing to say to the police department, except to investigate charges and not try their cases in the press. >> quite frankly, it pissed everybody off. >> a nod to these strong words by chicago's superintendent last
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month, when announcing charges against smollett. >> and why this stunt was orchestrated by smollett, because he was dissatisfied with his salary. so he concocted a story about being attacked. >> chicago's mayor livid over the outright absence of fault in the undetermined case. >> where is the accountability in the system? you cannot have because of a person's position one set of rules apply to them and another set of rules apply to everybody else. >> and erin, just think about this. the police department and the mayor's office pretty much finding out today the same time we did the charges were dropped. so many questions about this case that's played out in the public. look, the charges are now filed away. we can't even go and look at the case itself to find out all the evidence police have. the two men who are the center of this, those brothers, they may have the key, because they may have the text messages they could share with the world between jussi and themselves.
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that might be the only way we see everybody that happened in this case. >> thank you very much, ryan. a criminal defense attorney, paul martin is with me. you hear the headline here and people say, all charges dropped, does that mean he's innocent. not at all. they're saying he's guilty as sin but choosing to drop charges. how does this make sense? >> it makes sense in that if it was some transparency in the situation, you would be able to understand. if they went forth before the judge and said listen, the reason we're doing this is for x, y and z, that's what happened. when you go in most courtrooms in this country, it says justice is blind. this is justice with a wink. if you have a notoriety, if you have money, if you have political connections. cases will go away. and that's the problem in this situation. it doesn't give us confidence in the criminal justice system. >> it doesn't at all. and chicago mayor rahm emanuel is livid about it, as well. here's what he just said a few moments ago on cnn. >> you and i are both jewish. if on your front door there was a swastika or mine, and found
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out weeks later after all the empathy that either you or i had put that swastika on our door, we would get off of two days with service at the anti-defamation league? really? that's what would happen here? >> probably. that's probably what would happen. listen, this case struck a chord because of the underlying tone of racism and homophobia in this country. and i understand what mayor emanuel says by raising the swastika situation. but until we can in this country address racism in a real way, having conversations where we're not hiding from it, things like this are going to continue to divide us instead of bringing us together. >> but we're not going to know why they dropped these charges. they didn't drop them because they say he's evidence. the proof was pretty damning, no question about that. it's a matter of was he connected to somebody or who knows. >> it may have been a back door type of thing.
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with one of the engines. here's what they told air traffic control. >> we just lost our right engine. need to declare emergency. fly heading 020. >> it was going to be stored after the grounding of the 737 max jet. it's pretty scary. the plane was going to be stored. tell us what you can with this incident. >> no one was on board and it seemed to involve one of the engines having a problem. it's still one of those consequences that boeing really doesn't want right now when they're under such scrutiny. >> you have the fbi involved. criminal investigations and people looking at certification of the 737. tomorrow the faa is going to be
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facing tough directions on the hill as well. >> absolutely. he'll get a lot of pressure from congress. one of the chief questions being about this relationship between the faa and boeing and other airline operations out there. is it too close? are they letting them the do too much of the testing and certification? the indication is that they're going to move toward different standards. particularly in light of the advances making planes so different in the past. we don't have a lot of details on that yet but that will be a lot of the questioning. did you look closely enough? were you representing the public enough and were you putting enough pressure on the airline to make sure that everything they were doing was safe. >> thank you. now to campaign news, $315 billion is how much senator kamala harris wants to spend to boost teachers salaries across
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the nation. >> from inside the oklahoma state capital to a sea of red surrounding lawmakers in west virginia. teachers on strike saying they're underpaid. schools underfunded. from north carolina to los angeles, walking off the job demanding a livable wage. >> itseizing that fury. >> the investment will be our future. >> she announced her first major policy plan to increase teacher pay with federal dollars if she is elected president it would give the average teacher a $13,500 pay rise or increase in pay using federal funds with a focus of high need public
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schools in minority communities. for every $1 the federal government chips in three until the teacher pay gap is closed by the end of the first term. to get the federal funding, states would have to maintain their share at a total cost of 315 billion over ten years. who pays the bill? the very richest americans. >> extend the number of people that need to pay a state tax. multimillionaires can afford to pay more so that's where it's going to come from. >> the proposal targets a key democratic constituentcy. most teachers are college educated women. often women of color. the voters the harris campaign believes could help her win the nomination. >> i think when you actually grow up middleclass or you grow up poor or where your parents may be working paycheck to paycheck or there is a
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vulnerability, you understand that public schooling is key to your existence. >> teachers say kamala harris would be her hero should this happen. ross went on strike last year in oklahoma. the $6,000 raise after the strike helped but it's still not enough for her to quit driving uber or waiting tables. >> he said you really work hard. you work a lot of places don't you? he said you must be rich. and i said i sure am. >> she's far from the only teacher that has to work in order to make ends mate. it could pay off for her early. it's a state plagued by underfunded schools. every time i hear her talking about taking care of teachers in
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that state there's often loud sustained applause. >> something a lot of people i know would support. thank you. and next, if they put a person on the moon, it happened to be a man, right? why can't they make enough space suits for women now because there's women up there? as many as men. jeanie has the story. or child. or other child. or their new friend. or your giant nephews and their giant dad. or a horse. or a horse's brother, for that matter. the room for eight, 9,000 lb towing ford expedition. plants capture co2. what if other kinds of plants captured it too? if these industrial plants had technology
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space. >> the answer is yes, if your a man or a woman when it comes to two women -- >> houston we have a problem. >> the problem being not enough size medium space suits on board for two women to take the first all female space walk. and mcclain and christina cook were scheduled to go outside and change batteries on the international space station. >> i'm a geek at heart. >> i'm still a total nerd now but nerds get to go to space. >> and got her first walk in space march 22nd with a male astronaut. she's the one wearing red stripes. but with both women scheduled to go space walking friday there weren't enough size medium suits to go around. that launches tweets like we can put a man on the moon but we
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can't put a woman in a space suit? even hillary clinton said make another suit. they're not actually custom fitted to each astronaut. the ones currently being used were designed over 40 years ago. it could cost as much as $250 million to create a new suit from scratch. turns out they do have a second size medium suit on board the space station but prepping it takes time. they didn't think they would need it because ann trained on the ground wearing medium and large suits. but when she went on her first real space walk she thought the medium fit better. christina is now being paired to go space walking with a larger male astronaut. when you have the option of just switching the people, the mission becomes more important than a cool milestone. at least there's nothing wrong with getting caught wearing the same outfit. >> that's one small step for
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man. >> one size medium for two women. >> cnn new york. >> thank you for joining us. ac 360 starts now. good evening, another busy night. controversial statements that you hope would stay behind closed doors. but we begin with something that the president talked a lot about today in private and public. robert mueller's conclusions. a justice department official telling cnn that we could be reading his report within weeks and not months. confirming that no one at the white house has seen a copy and the president today said what you're about to hear him say. he almost certainly had not read the entire mueller