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mocking citizens from other cunning, and declares that the united states is, quote, full. >> so congress must catch and release so illegal border crosser can be quickly and safely returned to their home. get out, sorry. get out, we can't handle it. i told my people yesterday, our country is full, our system is fundamental. you can't come in are the. our country is full. what can you do? we can't handle any more. i'm sorry. >> and the asylum program is a scam. some of the roughest people you have ever seen, people that look like they should be fighting for the ufc they read a page given by lawyers that are all over the place. they tell them what to say.
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you look at this guy and say, wow, that's a tough cookie -- i am very fearful for my life. i am very worried that i will be accosted. send back home? no, no, he'll do the accosting. this follows a week of back-and-forth threats to close the border together followed by a threat for tariffs on cars. boris, he was speaking to the republican jewish coalition. how was his message received? >> reporter: this was a mostly friendly crowd. so there was applause and laughter when he made the comments about refugees seeking asylum. the president used the opportunity to talk about israel and tout his record on israel,
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also about moving the american embassy, and the president also talked about jared kushner, saying that if jared couldn't get middle east peace done, than no one can. the president also took the opportunity to bash democrats, special going after president obama for the iran nuclear deal, and congresswoman alexandria ocasio cortez after the new green deal and also went after ilhan omar. listen to what he said. >> a special thanks to representative omar of minnesota -- oh? oh, i forgot. she doesn't like israel. i forgot. i'm so sorry. oh. no, she doesn't like israel, does she? >> reporter: so the president making a joke. he had been rattles off a list
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of pro-israel republicans and mentioned her name in there. of course, omak was criticized for comments she made about political action committees deemed by somebody ton anti-semitic. the president using that to curry favor here. when the president talks about the ufc fighters aamong the asylum speakers, part of the reason we're hear that there is a national emergency on the border is because of the kind of person that's trying to get into the united states. it's not a large influx of adult males, but women and children, families looking to get away from some of the problems we're seeing, not the kind of person the president who is talking about, in his eyes, looking to try to come to the united states to cause problems. i want to bring in van
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jones, and alice stewart, republican strategist and firmer communications director for ted cruz. david axelrod, he reacted this way, and i read his tweet -- stunning to me, as the son of jewish immigrant who fled persecution to hear a president to declare to today's refugees that our country is full. yet right now he's speaking to a jewish audience seeking their votes. hard to square. >> he has been quite clear all along. he's saying or country is full, he is specifically referring to people trying to come into this country illegally. that's the context of what he was referring to. this is on the heels of him being down at the border, taking a look at the border and
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reaffirming his commitment to building this wall, it was a major campaign promise for him, something that really rallies his base. so that's the context in which -- >> but what we heard is he was making fun of asylum seekers. >> again, this was speaking to a group of supporters, his wait a minute testify reaffirming his message and his commitment to securing the border and immigration is different than anyone else. what some see as making fun of people, this is donald trump's way of communicating. i don't support and i don't condone and don't agree with a lot of the method in which he conveys his message, but i do agree with the message that we need to get tough on immigration, we need to secure or border, and this is his way of communicating his message, one not foreign to anyone who
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has supported donald trump. this is him speaking on a critical issue for him basically at a campaign event. we'll see much more of that closer to 2020. >> van? >> i appreciate that alice doesn't like the way he's talking from a tone point of view, but what he is saying is just not true. first of all, the idea that it's about illegal immigration or undocumented immigrants. it's not illegal to seek asylum, period. in fact the united states lid the world, to david axelrod's point. let's not forget or history. we shamefully turned jewish people away who were fleeing hitler's ovens, fleeing the nazi death troopers, and literally sent people back, americans as a
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country said we will never, ever do that again. we will at least hear your story, give you a chance, an opportunity, setting that standard led the world to having a much more compassionate understanding about what refugees are going through. he cannot tell the truth about the people showing up, because who is showing up are kids and moms who are fleeing, you know, death squadsened and all kinds of terrible stuff. it's not just the tone that is bad and the mocking, but the fact he's lying about who is coming. it's not a bunch of tough ufc people. it's a bunch of children. he knows americans are bent than that. it doesn't mean you let everybody come in but you at least haves pass, and i feel it's one of this is situations, you know, there's no way on the left or the rite or any other place in a political spectrum that you can support a
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presidents who is not only mocking people, but lying who they are. >> alice, do you disagree with that? >> i disagree with some of that. i agree with what a lot of van said,% there are families coming to this country to seek refuge. you can show any frame of video of people coming in illegally, you will see a lot of single men coming into this country not for assimilating into the country and not for seeking a better life for themselves. >> let me stop you for a second. >> i think it's important -- >> the facts are important. we do know according to the president's administration, the majority of people they are seesing cross the border right now are women, children and unaccompanied minors, but families and unaccompanied minors make up 60% of those currently crossing the border. >> i'm not disputing there are a large number of families coming
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in, but we cannot ignore the fact that there are many people coming in involved in gang activity, involved in human smuggling, sex trafficking. those are the type of people that the president was referring to today. those are the people we need tore more vigilant, turning them around and apprehending them. >> can i at the respond to that? sure, that's a problem. the reality is the undocumented immigrants have a lower rate than everybody else. if we're concerned about gang activities, we have a lot of native-born americans involved in that, but the more important point is this -- most of the people involved in smuggling, they're not presenting themselves asking for asylum. they're snooking through and doing other stuff that both sides are interested in with
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drone surveillance, and stuff like that. i just don't think that makes a lot of sense. let me move on to taxes. they think that is a topic that works for them political, the president perhaps, as he's looking ahead to 2020. we also know democrats are more focused on this. they want to get their hands on his taxes. a trump officials tells cnn the president will go all the way to the supreme court to keep his taxes secret, saying, quote, this is a hill and people would be willing to guy on it. van, is this a hill that democrats are willing to die on. >> first of all, the democrat ecparty has a bunch of different camps. penal are running for president, and they're focused more on jobs, health care, the economy, stuff like that, but you have a bunch of folks in congress and they feel there's been a lot of
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oversight and there's a threat to the country, not understanding what trumpenes, where his moan comes from, and it makes it very, very hard to know if he's violating the emoluments clause or a number of other things, so i think some democrats are willing to guy on that hill. i don't know why as proud as he is about his forting, he doesn't want us to know about it, but. they ar if the i.r.s. were to acquiesce, it would set a dangerous precedent, but diplomat trump set a precedent by not releasing his tax returns? >> he set a press didn't i was one of the many republican challengers against this president who pounded our fists on the tack, asking for him to release his tax returns.
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but i can pretty much take this to the bank, if he's made it this far without releasing them, there would come heck or high water before they're released. he's quite clear and the administration is quite clear on this, and his reelection campaign. he can continue to say he's under audit, and i would imagine that he will continue to say that until he absolutely cannot say it anymore. i don't expect to see his tax returns. i think moving forward there could be some movement to make sure if you run for president, that your tax returns should be released, the american people should see this, but van makes a good distinction. i think many democrats those asking are currently in congress, and it's good, and i think a wise move by. of those running for 2020 are
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focusing on the other issues that are of concerns to americans, such as jobs and the economy. they're not getting sidetracked with this, which i think that's a wise political move if you're running for president. focus on your constituents and what the democratic base wants to hear. we also have the fight to see the full mueller report. i know, van, tonight you spoke to amy klobuchar about william barr and how he's handled the report. let's listen. >> do you trust bill barr? he put forward that four-page summary. do you trust hi? >> i didn't support the attorney general, i didn't vote for him. i was so concerned that he wrote a memo before he was named. it was like a job application, in which he basically espouses
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belief to have unlimited power for the president. that made me really concerned he was putting in that position you're supposed to be upholding the laws, not the white house. on the other hand, i am glad he's said he's going to make the report public. i just don't want to find out he's rea due to the facted every sentence. so we'll wait to see what he does. the president tweeted -- the democrats will never be satisfied. >> you're right about some, you do have a mueller mania that was going on no a long time in our party, and people is it ilwant to see if. but that's a minority. i think the majority of democrats in this party, they just want to make sure before we close the book we have read all the chaps. i think that's fair, and i think there's a good reason to be concerned when you do have leaks and whispers of people who
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worked on the report saying barr's summary was awfully tamed to what we put in the report. i think that's given democrats real passion about finding out what's in it. and by the way, it's not just democrat. the entire congress voted they said the entire report released, and the american people want the report released. so i think the democrats are more passionate, but they're representing i think a vast majority of americans. thank you both, we have to leave it there. van's show is tonight at 7:00 p.m. eastern. suspicious fires destroy three black churches in just ten days, all in the same louisiana parish. the fbi now joining the investigation. we'll have the latest on what they're uncovering, ahead in "cnn newsroom." up the years. but what i do count on...
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an fbi investigation is now under way after three historically black churches in the same louisiana parish burned in the last ten days. each of these churches has a large african-american congregation, prompting suspicion among the state's fire marshal and authorities. kaylee hartung is following this for us. no injuries have been reported, but authorities are not calling the string of events coincidental. >> because they burned in the middle of the night, thankfully no one was hurt. but each of these churches is very active in their community for more than 100 years. each of these buildings is located on or near a rural highway in that area. now, theories have not yet been able to say they can conclusive connect these three fires, but they say they see some
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similarities, in that they have identified what they are calling suspicious elements in each case and they say those are being thoroughly probed. the state fear marshall cautions any argon investigation takes time. it could take months. it's one of the most complicated and unconvention at crime scenes that investigators can work in. these churches were reduced to almost nothing but rubble. but the sheriff hears the players to solve the crime and he says progress -- pleas to solve the crime and he says progress is being made. what about the motives? >> given that we're talking about three churches with african-american congregations, there is a recognition it could have been racially motivated. authorities are cautioning not to jump to conclusions, but the
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pastors came together for a conversation with other pastors, and they and reverend harry reshard, he said we don't know who is doing this or why, but he doesn't want to be the one to inject race interest the conversation until they have more answers. he is praying this community doesn't panic. in the meantime he has a sermon to plan for the congregation who will meet in a temporary location. listen to the message he hopes to deliver. >> god's grace is on undeserved merit. i know we don't deserve this, but hoe gives us something better than this and that's undeserved grace. i thank god for grace. >> reporter: authorities say they are allocating extra manpower, have authorized overtime for some to work on this investigation to determine
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who is responsible and why, and also to protect people as they go to church this weekend. >> thank you, kaylee hartung, for that update. new information today about thousands of my grant families separated at the u.s. border. we're learning it could take up to two years to reunite families separated under the zero-tolerance policy. i'll speak with an attorney that that's not fast enough to fix the damage. you're live in "cnn newsroom." organic plant food and soil that finally work... for twice the bounty. guaranteed. miracle-gro performance organics. ♪
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admitting it could take up to two years who were separated at the border. we'll have more on that in just a moment the southern border. >> i will do it, just like you know i will do it. i don't play games. >> only about of 50 miles of that has some sort of barrier. the rio grande also runs along a big chunk of border between the u.s. and mexico daily. but a shutdown would threaten 500 million jobs that depend on trade, and u.s. auto plants would have to close down one a
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week, we're told. according to economists, the effect of a border shut downthat every one in this country would feel, including key medical supplies, shortages of foods. last year when the busiest land crossing in the western mem sphere was closed for five hours, the chamber of commerce says the u.s. lost an estimated 5.3 million, in just those five hours. so a border shutdown would hurt american farmers, consumers and manufacturers nationwide. one of the key reasons president trump says a border wall needs to be built is to stop the flow, but the truth it most of thousand who are undocumented in the he came here legally and overstayed their visas. more than 700,000 people
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overstayed their visas. the president also claims building more sections of wall will stop drug trafficking. the truth is most drugs from mexico enter through official and legal ports of entry. that's coming from the president's over administration. the flu call for staffing to be moving is prompts lawmakers to express their concern that even more drugs could sneak through disguised as commerce. while the president likes to saying his wall is already being built, that's not true. congress has appropriated almost $1.4 billion for 55 miles of new border fencing, but construction hasn't started yet. there have been some barriers replaced or fixed like in calexico, where the president
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visited yesterday. not one new linear mile of border wall has been completed in his more than two years in office. back now to the government's new plan -- or new information, that the government might literally take years to reunite families under zero-tolerance policies, these families that were separated. who runs the aclu's project. i think this is one of the most shocking moments in a year about family separation. the government is saying we may have separated thousands more we didn't tell but it, we didn't tell the court about it.
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it only came out because of an internal investigation. it's too much of a burden, the court said no, we need to try to find these families. in a civilized society we find these families. now the government is proposing a plan they may need up to two years. there's absolutely no reason why they need two years to identify these families. what is really going on here is that a year into this, the government refuses -- refuses to prioritize the health of these children. what doctors have said, the medical community, there's absolute consensus, the longer each child is separated, the more damage that's done, the more permanent it's likely to be. >> why are you still working with the government on a solution to reunite the separated families? >> we are. we have no choice. the government holds the information. at this point, the government is
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not even saying that the government may take up to two years. they're saying it may take up to two years just to identify the families and give us contact information. at this point we're not even asking the government to do the reunifications. and all we're doing is ask them to -- they put in plenty of resources on when they wanted to separate the children, take the children amp. now when it comes to trying to reunify them, all of a sudden the government doesn't have enough resources. >> it sounds like you're not confidence the right steps are even being taken. >> this is only a proposed plan, and go to the court there has to be a new plat.
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we cannot leave these children without their parents they're already been they're saying maybe they can be separated for another two years, because we're not going -- the government separated them, broke the law in doing so. and now they say, well, it's a burden to try to reunite them bay we don't have a tracking system. the government should have never separated them, good you if they were going to practiced them, this should have had a tracking system, and now they're using their own callousness to say we need two years. do you think the trablging in that place now -- and one would
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hope near no longer separating families. >> that's a great question. to begin with they are still separating families. we're just learning that. they know they can't systematically do it because of the court order. now what they're doing is saying we're going to separate this family and that family, because we believe the parent is a danger to the child. when we learn about the situation, we learn they're claiming the parent is a danger for nonviolent offenses, even duis. we are back in court on that, and the judge has made clear he wants to see a tracking system. if there are more separations, he does not want to be told that the government can't find them any more. we're trying to work with the government and the court to create a tracking system to stop future separations. i think the government assumes, well, the american public will take their eye off this horribl
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american public thought it was under control. i hope they it's not under control and there are thousands more parents sitting out the president is saying ron fritello is not the guy for the nomination, and here was his explanation for doing that. >> we're going in a little different direction. ron is a good man, but we're going in a tougher direction. we want to go in a tougher direction. >> what do you think he means by that? i don't know, but the recent policies we have seen starting with family separation to denying asylum he seekers are patently unlawful, and they're cruel. i hope people remember their own
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histories, when the administration talks about cutting off roots to apply for asyl asylum. there's a lot of people whose relatives got here only because we were willing to take oasylum seekers. and people should remember what happened when we sent people back during world war ii. we are log in course on these policies. we've already got injunctions, and we will continue to fight in court on these. >> thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. president trump says former first lady barbara bush was right to be nasty to him. details on that ahead in "cnn newsroo newsroom".
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from the her biography, and she no longer considered herself a republican due to trump's rise in the party, and she kept a clock near her bedside counting down the time he was in -- i heard she is was nasty, but she should be. look what i did to her sons. in the 2016 primary campaign trump called governor jeb bush low energy, and also criticized former george w. bush for the wars in iraq and afghanistan. joining us is mark up degrove, and author of "the last republicans." mark, we've talked before about the former first lady's disdain for this president, but again as a historian, you look back at other situations, what do you make of a very public spat like
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this? >> i don't know that it was that public back at the time. they took exception to the way that trump saw jeb, and he knew she was a big draw in his campaign, but whenever you see somebody tangle with one of your kids, you'll get involved. as a parent he probably understood this instinct. this week's series focuses on george w. bush as he becomes the president of the united states. >> announcer: three weeks after the war begins, american troops take baghdad.
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at the present time is a dsadda hussein is in hiding. >> major combat operation have ended, in the battle of iraq, the united states and our allies have prevailed. >> he would not have done that. he was too modest. george w. bu through some intense times, 9/11, hurricane katrina, the 2008 financial crash. mark, how is history starting to judge how he handled those events? >> you know, it takes about a generation, at least, for us to give a president any kind of a fair assessment about his presidency, because it takes that long for passions to cool. we need to kind of get a sense of the times and look at a presidency alternates more dispassionately.
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i think what president bush is getting credit for now is his compassionate conservatism. i think people will see he had good values. they might not have always agreed with the decisions he made as president, but i think they appreciated his good moral judgment for the most part. it's going to take a lot longer for us to sort out the war in iraq and the financial crisis, and those very complicated and very messy times. but i think it looks pretty certain that the war in iraq will not be looked kindly upon in history. >> george w. bush, of course, left office in 2008, but he was not the last bush to run for president. his brother, jeb, ran in 2016 against donald trump, as we mentioned. what was behind his decision to run. do you know? >> you know, i think he felt pressured to run in 2016. he was an obvious candidate. he had two solid terms as a
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conservative governor in his home state of florida. he had the bush brand name behind him. it had been lucky twice before. and while the american people are very wary of dynasties, political dynasties, i think there was some hope that jeb would throw his hat in the ring. but 2016 turned out to be a very, very different election cycle. had it been 2008, 2012, jeb bush may have been the candidate, but the times were simply not with him in 2016. >> mark, good to see you again. thank you. >> thank you. be sure to tune in. it airs tomorrow at 10:00 p.m. only on cnn. vladimir putin is flexing his muscle in the arctic circle. as a high-tech new military base, which would become russia's closest base to the
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russia's vladimir putin is flexing his muscles hard in the arctic polar region, making a mush to dominate the resources near the arctic. moscow has been busy building new military resources. >> reporter: racing north across the frozen arctic sea on a
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russian army chopper. >> the russians are making a huge effort to upgrade their military structures in the arctic. several of their bases are fully operational and right now they're flying us to one of their most modern ones. >> reporter: they call this space northern clover. the russian army has already deployed specialized arctic anti-aircraft systems built to perform in the cold. >> translator: this is adapted for much harsher weather conditions in the arctic, temperatures as low at negative 50 degrees. >> reporter: it's part of putin's long-term plan to dominate the arctic. as the ice here becomes weaker because of global warming, those economic interests are becoming more important. the northern clover base is in a
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strategic location in russia's far east. it seems remote until you look at the world from the top and see that this space is one of russia's closest to u.s. territory. the base can house up to 250 soldiers. aside from its weapons arsenal, it also has high-powered radar to make sure america and its allies don't come close. russia is pouring major resources into its arctic endeav endeavor. it's the only country with a fleet of nuclear ice breakers, that could make trade between the west much faster and cheaper. russia is tapping into national resources in the arctic like liquid natural gas, deploying floating nuclear power stays to fuel its ambitions. >> translator: our base control monitors the air space, controls the northern sea route and eliminates damage to the environment. >> reporter: the trump
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here's tonight's headline. everybody into the pool. in case you lost track, there are officially 17 democrats running for president with this week's announcement by ohio's tim ryan, that he, too, is joining the field. there's entrepreneur yang and motivational speaker. and the eternalally considering it joe biden. don't trust my math, but i think that would bring the total to 2037 hold on, we're not done yet. former starbucks ceo howard schultz continuing a run as an independent, massachusetts democrat

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