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sid caesar is better. i want to be danny. >> there's obviously a debate. welcome to viewers in the united states and around the world to "new day." it is wednesday, april 10, 6:00 in new york. we begin with breaking news for you. israel's election is too close to call. prime minister benjamin netanyahu and his chief rival are both claiming victory. at this hour gants is acknowledging the odds don't seem to be in his favor. if benjamin netanyahu pulls off the win he'll make history becoming the longest serving prime minister. in moments we'll take you live to jerusalem for this nail-biter of an election. and in the u.s. william barr heads to capitol hill to testify and perhaps answer more questions -- or not. >> there are huge unanswered questions after his first day of testimony. most of all, has he been speaking to the white house about the contents of the
mueller report. the attorney general opened the door wide open to the possibility that the president and his lawyers already know more information inside the report, damning or otherwise, than congress and the public. lawmakers will have a redacted version of the mueller report within days, but congress wants more. promising to issue a subpoena for the full version, no blackouts at all. meanwhile today is the deadline for the irs to give congress the president's tax returns they will almost definitely ignore the deadline. the treasury secretary sparred with democrats over the release and revealed that treasury lawyers have been coordinating with the white house on this matter. the hearing with the treasury secretary was notable for a remarkably tense argument between the secretary and the chair about the hearing's length. we'll get to that. we'll begin with the big international headline. orin lieberman live in jerusalem with the breaking news where things appear to be looking up
for prime minister benjamin netanyahu. >> reporter: at this point prime minister benjamin netanyahu seems all but assured of victory because he has a far clearer path to forming a governing coalition, putting together a government. the head to head with him and his rival remains very close within a few thousand votes, within a percentage, the question of who can put together a government seems assured to be benjamin netanyahu as more results come in. we looked at more than 97% of votes counted and there it looks like the important question of who can get to the 61-seat coalition, it is benjamin netanyahu who can get to 65 with a right-wing governing coalition. his rival at 55 seats. crucially, not all of the votes are in. there are a couple hundred thousand votes -- soldiers and diplomats -- counted over the next couple of days that could swing it more in benjamin netanyahu's favor. that leads to another question.
hanging over his head has been corruption investigations. if those break more to benjamin netanyahu he may have a government that could protect him even if he's indicted with the corruption investigations looming. john, at this point it seems netanyahu has the clear path to victory but the results aren't yet final. perhaps they will be throughout the day. >> throughout the election it seemed as if there was another figure, a third figure who in a way was on the ballot. that was president trump of the united states. he, directly and indirectly, played a huge role in the campaign, correct? >> reporter: president trump was a huge role in the election. netanyahu was proud to play up the relationship. trump appearing to openly campaign for netanyahu giving him major political gifts over the last two weeks including secretary of state mike pompeo visiting the western wall in jerusalem with netanyahu which
was unprecedented. beyond that u.s. recognition of israeli sovrereignty in the goln heights, recognizing the guard corps as a terrorist organization. that made it clear trump preferred netanyahu. do we know how many votes it affected? no. but netanyahu has secured a fifth term in office and this summer will be the longest serving prime minister in israel's history. >> bring us the breaking developments as you get them. thank you very much. in a few hours william barr heads back to capitol hill to answer questions from senators this time. yesterday he testified before the house panel that he plans to release a redacted version of the mueller report within a week. we have more from washington. >> reporter: good morning. this is round two for the attorney general. he'll appear senate side this time. today's hearing is supposed to
be about the doj's budget but washington is bracing for the redacted version of the mueller report in the next week. attorney general william barr says the wait is almost over. >> within a week i will be in a position to release the report to the public. >> reporter: but not the version of robert mueller's report democrats want. >> i don't intend at this stage to send the full unredacted report to the committee. >> reporter: instead, barr says with help from mueller's team he'll provide a redacted version using color-coded explanations to extract grand jury material, classified information and other private details. house democrats say that's not good enough. >> this is what drives the public crazy when they see this. this is what we have to try to avoid. >> reporter: house dems already authorized a subpoena to get the full report. >> if we don't get everything
we'll issue the subpoena and go to court. >> reporter: barr defended his four-page summary on mueller's nearly 400-page report saying mueller could not establish conspiracy between trump's campaign and russia. >> no collusion, no obstruction. it's over and done. >> well, the letter speaks for itself. >> i thought it did, too. >> reporter: barr's letter released only two days after mueller submitted his findings on the nearly two-year-long investigation. the ag said the white house was notified before the memo went to capitol hill but refused to say if the white house has seen the report. >> did the white house see the report before you released your summarizing letter? has the white house seen it since then? >> i have said what i'm going to say about the report today. >> reporter: barr originally said his timetable to release the redacted report in mid
april. he is on track to meet that meaning the redacted version will be coming in the next week but democrats want more than that. >> indeed. thank you very much for setting it up for us. joining us is senior political analyst john avlon. that was asking him have you briefed the white house about this. he just said, i have said what i'm going to say about the report today. i'm not saying more until the report is out. why wouldn't he answer that? is there something wrong with briefing the white house? >> he was forthcoming in some areas but decidedly punted a didn't answer that. one of many open questions that senators today on the appropriations subcommittee will have a chance to ask barr. >> i don't think he'll answer it. >> what gives you that impression? >> he didn't seem to want to answer it. >> no. >> did he do something wrong by
briefing the white house? should he not brief the white house? i get that congress didn't like it, but is it illegal? why not be forthcoming about it? >> that's a question only bill barr can answer. there is no indication it would be illegal or improper. but the decision, for example, to say we will not pursue obstruction cases when that was apparently not concluded by mueller, there are a lot of questions about the special counsel reporting to the a.g., a partisan appointee. that's where the scrutiny will come and should come. did mueller intend for you to make the massive decision? or had he intended that to be a decision congress could make? >> that's the heart of the matter. why don't we know the answer? did he address it yesterday? >> he did not. you can expect some senators on the appropriations subcommittee to follow up today. barr's answers today will be, more than yesterday, i have the redacted version coming out in a
week's time or less. wait for it. then we'll do this all over again. the open question is what are the redactions. democrats are opposing any of them. it's reasonable for the a.g. to redact things if it compromises an ongoing investigation, sources or methods. >> here are some things we learned. i don't know if they count as news worthy. number one, it would be within a week from now. >> ballpark. >> he's not going to hand it over unredacted. that's what lawmakers wanted. >> yep. >> it will be color-coded. that's new. >> yes. put it in a trapper keeper. >> robert mueller's team is involved. >> yes. >> that may give democrats some comfort to know investigators are involved in helping draft this. >> yes. that's interesting. what came out yesterday is mueller declined to participate in looking at the letter barr wrote. that's a degree of separation that may be significant. we'll find out.
>> john, thank you very much for that. today is the deadline set by house democrats for the irs to hand over six years of president trump's tax returns. no one expects them to meet the deadline. the treasury secretary steve mnuchin clashed with democrats at a hearing on tuesday while admitting his department consulted with the white house over the request. lauren fox is live on capitol hill with the latest. this was quite a hearing. >> reporter: that's right, john. it was a stunning admission from the treasury secretary yesterday and he got into a heated exchange with the top democrat on the financial services committee. it's deadline day butix years of records from the irs by today. democrats expect a protracted stalemate as they wait for the agency to hand over the president's tax returns. >> that's a fight the public wants us to fight. he said he would give the tax
returns. every other president has released them. >> reporter: neal plans to send a follow up request this week. the battle will likely end up in court. the house financial services committee grilled steve mnuchin yesterday where he acknowledged treasury lawyers spoke with the white house about a potential request for the returns. >> our legal department has consulted with the white house as they would and as i believe would be normal. that's not taking direction from the white house. i don't view it as interference. >> reporter: that didn't satisfy democrats. >> the fact that there was any communication with the white house about this is deeply troubling. >> reporter: the hearing, reaching a boiling point in the closing moments as chairman maxine waters and steve mnuchin clashing over whether it was time to adjourn. >> is it possible you could give us 15 minutes? >> i have a foreign leader waiting in my office at 5:30, okay? i agreed to stay longer.
it will be embarrassing if i keep this person waiting. i have here every single time jack lu and other people came here. there's never been anybody here longer than three hours and 15 minutes. i have sat here for over three hours and 15 minutes. i told you i would come back. >> i appreciate that and your reminding us of the length of time other secretaries have been here. this is a new way and it's a new day and it's a new chair and i have the gavel at this point. if you wish to leave, you may. >> can you clarify that for me? >> yes, clarify. if you wish to leave, you may. you may go any time you want. >> please dismiss everybody. i believe you are supposed to take the gavel and bang it. >> please don't instruct me how to conduct this committee. >> reporter: trump has been clear he's not handing over the tax returns. i asked richard if he would
continue asking and he said the fight is just beginning. >> lauren fox on capitol hill, thank you very much. joining us is julie davis, congressional correspondent for the "new york times." what the heck happened, julie, at the end between steve mnuchin and maxine waters. i have never seen anything like it. >> i haven't either. i wondered if steve mnuchin had examples of that on the little card he brought. it was extraordinary that he brought it and that tells you all you need to know about the nature of the relationship here. he was anticipating being asked to stay longer than he wanted to. he was ready to take it to the chairwoman maxine waters. as you saw, he was willing to push the envelope in terms of the issues that the democrats wanted to talk about. he wasn't willing to get up and walk out. he wanted her to adjourn the hearing and say it was over. he didn't want to be in a position of stiffing the committee while they were in session. he also didn't want to give them
all the time they wanted. this was just a pretty vivid representation of how contentious the relationship has become. you saw maxine waters say, this is the way it is going to be. we expect you to stay and answer the questions. >> is this an example of what the administration can expect with a new democratic oversight and perhaps an example of how they'll respond which is to say contentiously? >> yeah. you saw both of those things. democrats want to demonstrate clearly that they plan to use their oversight power just as aggressively as they think is appropriate. they want to get information out of the administration. this administration has also been clear about how it will respond. they weren't tiptoeing around the issue. you know, you have heard senior officials say we are not giving the tax returns. you heard mick mulvaney say it will never happen. there you saw steve mnuchin saying he wasn't going to roll over for the kind of aggressive approach they are going to use. >> right. >> we are going to continue to see these clashes.
>> one note of revelation is that treasury lawyers have been speaking to white house lawyers about the taxes. we didn't know that. that's a level of consultation and maybe coordination. what's the significance? >> reporter: we didn't know that and what steve mnuchin said was vague about the nature of the consultation. we know they talked about the fact they were expecting to get the request. potentially, they may have talked about what the response should have been. he said there is nothing inappropriate. until you know what the nature of the conversation is you don't know if there is anything inappropriate in that. while there is supposed to be a statute at play here, the white house has not been shy about the fact that they have a distinct point of view here. they don't believe the president should have to hand over returns. he has no intention of doing that. they are not even trying to pretend as if the white house isn't weighing in on the question here. the fact that the treasury secretary is admitting that the lawyers at his department talked
to the white house about this could be potentially significant. >> stay tuned on that front. stick around. we'll talk to you more in a little bit. >> the attorney general's testimony leading to even more questions. why did bill barr refuse to say if he'd briefed the white house on the mueller report? you see a. but draper saw a way to fight disease. ♪ so they're using dell technologies with the power of vmware to bring their idea to life. together, we're powering ai that analyzes satellite imagery to follow the spread of pathogens like malaria so we can stop them in their tracks. and that kind of technology... can make the world a healthier place. vmware, a part of dell technologies.
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before a senate poll as they brace to see the redacted mueller report within a week. let's bring in laura coats, former federal prosecutor and sung min kim from "the washington post." let me play for everybody how bill barr was reluctant to answer whether or not he had briefed the white house on the mueller report. let's play this exchange he had with the congresswoman. >> did the white house see the report before you released your summarizing letter? has the white house seen it since then? have they been briefed on the contents beyond what was in your summarizing letter to the judiciary committee? >> i've said what i'm going to say about the report today. i'm not going to say anything more about it until the report is out. >> laura, why wouldn't he answer that? would there be something legally wrong with him briefing the
white house before the report is given to congress? >> i think there is every reason to answer the question. frankly, it is not actually about the substantive report. it's about the process. that's what everybody is trying to get at -- the redaction process, the decision-making process and also whether or not there is some coordination whatsoever between william barr and president trump. the reason that's important is everyone is thinking, well, we have a 1-pa9-page letter writtey bill barr when he had no information prior to becoming attorney general. the thought was he provided that as a form of a job interview. not to answer the question leaves you wondering the same question -- whether or not there is some form of coordination to have the, quote/unquote, nonsummary -- he doesn't want you to call it a summary -- the distillation whether that was to the benefit of the president. he should have answered that
question. it leaves another stone unturned that undermines the integrity and the credibility of the investigation. actually, not the investigation but the summary of it. >> the administration was on the record, the white house and the justice department, that there was no contact before the summary. so what he seemed to dodge on there was contact since. i don't think there is anything illegal about contact. politically speaking it raises the possibility that the white house knows everything and the president's lawyers know everything. they know all the obstruction information that might be in there that could be damning to the president and they have a week's long, two weeks' long head start in how to respond. >> it gives democrats an out to escalate the fight further over getting the mueller report. one key point was, yes, the attorney general would not say whether the white house had seen a copy of the report after the attorney general's letter. another point in the hearing yesterday was that the attorney general wasn't willing to say he would go to a judge to allow
congress to be able to see the grand jury material. now house democrats may do it on their own. if you look at the points that's giving democrats an out to say, well, you are not giving us the full report. you're not going as far to accommodate us and the public and have access to the document. that almost essentially guarantees a subpoena. the committee has already authorized a subpoena for the report and a vote earlier this month. you can expect to see the vote pretty soon. >> julie, we had jeffrey toobin, our legal eagle, on and pri prit berara and asked what they would ask bill barr. they both said did robert mueller leave it up to you on obstruction. >> did he ask you to make a conclusion. >> did he ask you to weigh in, make a conclusion and offer it on obstruction. but the lawmakers didn't ask that brilliant question yesterday. what he did say about mueller and mueller's team, here's a
snippet of what he said. >> i suspect they probably wanted more put out. in my view, i was not interested in putting out summaries or trying to summarize. >> yeah. they prepared their own summaries for the public. >> there is clearly a back and forth here between the attorney general and members of mueller's team on how much to release, what to release. what's not clear and they didn't ask about it to clarify, but i assume they'll bring up questions in the future with the attorney general and with mueller himself when they have the chance whether attorney general barr got over his skis, went further than it was mueller's intention to go and drawing conclusions out of the report. he was able to set the narrative and the take away is early on in
the game by putting out the letter and distilling what he says were the conclusions of the report in his own words. there are quite a few people, the times and others have found on the team that was not going to be what was going to happen. that more of the actual bottom line fining findings would com a raw way allowing people to make their own conclusions. he said yesterday, the attorney general, that he hadn't talked with special counsel about what was going to be in his letter, there is the remaining question of whether bob mueller wanted or expected the attorney general to draw conclusions or leave it to congress. that will be a question going forward you will definitely see the committee probe into further. >> i think we are learning more about william barr and his political acumen which is extensive. in his confirmation hearing he
said he would go as far as he can to be transparent. i think what we are learning is he'll go as far as he wants to be transparent. he's using the power he has as attorney general to control how this is released. sometimes it's short of what the law will allow. >> it's good to be king, right? that's the notion. he is someone who is politically savvy and also legally savvy as well. he identified four categories of information on areas he would redact -- ongoing investigations, grand jury material, prejudicial to third party peripheral parties, the idea of classified information. this is more sweeping and broad than you would think. there is no guarantee essentially whether or not he's using his own discretion or the policy. he's using his own discretion in combination with the policies of doj. if he's using distraction to see if certain portions should be
redacted he's flexing his power. having said that he was clear from the beginning that he would be transparent to the extent he wanted to be so. the assumption was transparency at this level would be the floor, not the ceiling. as we go forward we have to figure out if transparency as defined by the public and congress aligned with his own definition. it seems at this point it was the absolute ceiling aside from doj policy. that won't satisfy members of congress let alone the public. >> we have only a couple of seconds left. what democrats are trying to figure out and the public is, can he be impartial? after the 19-page memo it lends itself to thinking he cannot be. they are trying to determine yesterday and today if it's possible that he can be. >> yes. democrats had this question essentially since he was nominated and going through the confirmation process because democrats knew obviously in the coming months there would be this major fight over the mueller investigation, over the
mueller report. they had a lot of criticism about why he was writing memos about the mueller probe when he wasn't impressive privy to the about it. you will see the fight continuing to escalate. >> thank you very much. we didn't even ask about the "grease" prequel. >> luckily we have two and a half more hours. new trouble for lori loughlin. the actress and her husband hit with new charges in the college admissions scandal. you might take something for your heart... or joints. but do you take something for your brain. with an ingredient originally discovered in jellyfish, prevagen has been shown in clinical trials to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life.
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move on. >> how they met at the beach. there was a sequel "grease 2." it didn't do well. >> i saw it. >> it was awesome. michelle pfeiffer, max caulfield. >> look at that. how great was that movie? >> it's terrible. >> it's fantastic. i don't know that it will hold up in the me too moment. >> why? because the theme of all you have to do to get what you want is wear black leather pants? >> well, yeah. we are questioning whether the theme is true this year. it worked for her well. please weigh in on john's twitter feed. meanwhile, lori loughlin and 15 other wealthy parents are facing charges in the college admissions scandal in the u.s. we have the latest. what now? >> wasn't it yesterday we were saying this could happen? i think so. the additional money laundering charge comes in the superseding indictment. this means the stakes got higher
for loughlin, her husband and 15 other parents. last month 33 parents faced a criminal charge in a complaint. prosecutors had evidence against all the people, recorded phone conversations, e-mails. law enforcement sources said that was just a starting point for the government. it had more evidence against those who didn't strike a deal with prosecutors. they ran the risk of facing more charges. that's what we are seeing now. this after the u.s. attorney's office announced 13 parents and one coach did take a deal including felicity huffman likely reducing punishment with the deal. huffman, remember, released a statement we read yesterday. she sounded remorseful. it's a different response than what we have been seeing from lori loughlin who last week was signing autographs before her initial court appearance. now loughlin will have to go before the judge again. this time with the additional
money laundering charge. it is unclear if she'll fight this or possibly make a deal with prosecutors. as far as the kids go, loughlin's daughters go to usc. the school is judging the fate of students connected to this on a case-by-case basis. interestingly enough the school is considering parents' plea deals. as for huffman, her daughter was trying to get into college when her mother took part in the scam. it's the kids who didn't know about it who are losing out. >> thank you very much. i'm dying to know what lori love hin -- loughlin's defense will be and why you think john travolta putting on a sweater was the same as what olivia did. >> he should have kept the leather. >> bernie sanders set to release ten years of tax returns with a big reveal. turns out he's a millionaire. how will that affect the race? >> i hope he's embarrassed.
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york times" he will release a deca decade's worth of tax returns by monday. sanders also acknowledged he's now a millionaire. here with us, cnn political correspondent mj lee. he was somewhat defensive about the revelation he's now a millionaire. he told "new york times" i wrote a bestselling book. if you write a bestselling book, you can be a millionaire, too. this is an issue apparently for senator sanders. >> the fact that he acknowledged he's now a millionaire, will the critics latch on and find things to criticize in his tax returns and scrutinize them? absolutely. by the way, the criticism that he dragged his feet on releasing tax returns, that's more than fair. he's the one who said they would be released soon a couple of weeks ago. by the way, some of his other 2020 democratic rivals have put out years of tax returns and those rivals didn't also run for
president in 2016 when bernie sanders refused to put out his tax returns. >> was he not releasing them because of this? why the shame over success? >> we don't know why. the there is a suggestion that he doesn't want the tax returns and certainly ten years of tax returns scrutinized. i do think the fact that he didn't release his tax returns in 2016 but it didn't get a lot of attention last cycle is a good reminder of how underveted bernie sanders was. that's probably not going to be a mistake that democrats and republicans want to make again in 2020 as he's now clearly the democratic frontrunner. >> i want to bring us up to speed on a simmering debate between pete buttigieg and the pence family, mike pence was governor of indiana. it happened on this show where pete buttigieg was critical of mike pence's stance -- opposition to gay marriage.
then pete buttigieg went further in other comments. listen to this. >> my marriage has made me a better man and it has moved me closer to god. if you have a problem with who i am your problem is not with me. your quarrel, sir, is with my creator. >> in response to this and other comments, karen pence said -- let's play it. >> in our country you shouldn't be attacked for your religious beliefs. >> i don't think the vice president does have a problem with him, but it's helping pete to get notoriety by saying that about the vice president. >> finally the response from pete buttigieg was people will often be polite in person while advancing policies that harm you and your family. you will be polite in turn but you push back honestly and emphatically. so it goes in the public square. >> there is one thing worth making clear which is that vice
president pence is one of the most conservative national republicans when it comes to social issues at every turn he has resisted expanding gay rights, but because of the nature of the 2016 campaign and the chaotic nature of the trump administration it's more than fair to say the vice president has largely escaped scrutiny on this. you will recall back at the vice presidential debate against tim kaine this was not an issue that came up even though as governor of indiana he signed a law into bill that would have allowed businesses to openly discriminate against gay people. say what you will about pete buttigieg. he is finding a way to bring this to the forefront, an issue that's largely escaped scrutiny. >> this is a really interesting debate. what it points out is that to your face and people generally are kind to their neighbor, kind towards the people they work with, kind towards the people in
their family. so when you know somebody personally, you don't stand on your soap box about the things that are wrong with them. what pete buttigieg is referring to is -- i think -- in 2006 mike pence said in a speech societal collapse was always brought about following the advent of the deterioration of marriage and family. pence also called being gay a choice and said keeping gays from marrying wasn't discrimination but an enforcement of, quote, god's idea. you hear pete buttigieg speaking directly to that. it's not a choice, he doesn't believe. if so it was god's choice, he's saying. i think this is interesting. what mrs. pence is saying is he's always been so nice to pete buttigieg. why is pete buttigieg saying this? pete buttigieg is saying, because there is a larger issue here. >> also, your neighbor is not always going to be a person in elected office or a person with power to actually do something
about laws that directly impact your life. pence has been in that position. >> i want to play you some of the cnn town hall last night with kirsten gillibrand where she was pressed on the fact that her stance on issues that are important to democrats, gun rights and others, have changed. listen. >> i think it is really important that you are able to admit when you're wrong and able to grow and learn and listen and be better, stronger. that's something that donald trump is unwilling to do. he's unwilling to listen. he is unwilling to admit when he's wrong. he's incapable of it. it's one of the reasons why he's such a cowardly president. >> how much will this be an issue for senator gillibrand going forward? >> the takeaway or one of the takeaways from last night is there are almost 20 democratic candidates and where kirsten gillibrand is right now is having to spend a lot of time still explaining why people think her record is inconsistent. i think that's not a position
you want to be in. could you make the argument that some of the inconsistencies or perceived inconsistencies could play well to a more conservative base? absolutely. again, i don't think at this stage you want to be explaining yourself over and over again. >> thank you very much. >> thanks. attorney general william barr promised transparency when he releases the mueller report. now that he's been grilled on capitol hill, all those promises, are they cracked up to be? -♪ just like any other family ♪ the house, kids, they're living the dream ♪ ♪ and here comes the wacky new maid ♪ -maid? uh, i'm not the... -♪ is she an alien, is she a spy? ♪ ♪ she's always here, someone tell us why ♪ -♪ why, oh, why -♪ she's not the maid we wanted ♪ -because i'm not the maid! -♪ but she's the maid we got -again, i'm not the maid. i protect your home and auto. -hey, campbells. who's your new maid? ensure max protein... to give you the protein you need
transparency was the popular buzz word before william barr was confirmed as attorney general. will barr pass his own transparency test when he releases the redacted mueller report? john avlon has our reality check. what do you think? >> it was billed by john berman as the sexiest appropriations hearing in history. >> steamy. >> things got hot and heavy when bill barr met congress for the first time since his letter on the mueller report. there was grand standing, new information and lots of still open questions. but the biggest issue stems from
a promise barr made during confirmation hearings. >> my goal is to provide as much transparency as i can consistent with the law. >> transparency is the issue. whether barr is really doing all he can. so let's take a closer look. yesterday, barr said this. >> i tried to use as much of the special counsel's own language as i could. >> that may have been his intention, but let's look at the results. we know the full mueller report is between 300 and 400 pages excluding charts and supporting documents. that's a doorstop. let's be conservative and say roughly 90,000 words. barr included 101 words from the mueller report in his four-page letter counting a footnote and the title. that's about .1% of the total mueller report. it's hard to square that stat with barr saying he tried to include as much of the special counsel's language as he could. the letter was the result of a 48-hour reading binge of the
report and is worth asking whether his memo saying the report was fatally ill conceived. >> i was not interested in putting out summaries or trying to summarize. i think any summary regardless of who prepares it not only runs the risk of being under inclusive or overinclusive but would trigger discussion and analysis that should await everything coming out all at once. >> barr certainly seemed to have erred on the side of being un r underinclusive and the letter triggered discussion and analysis. he was greeted with cheers of vindication from team trump and indelibly framed the national debate. it's totally appropriate to redact information that could compromise sources or ongoing investigations. it is striking that barr said he has no interest in asking a judge to approve the release of
grand jury testimony. among many open questions is whether mueller intended to have the ag decide if the president could be charged with obstruction, an impeachable offense. we know that the president was explicitly not exonerated on the question of obstruction. we have repeatedly heard the opposite from team trump including tom graves yesterday. >> the conclusions were simple. no collusion, no obstruction. >> no. but notably ag barr didn't correct the georgia congressman. he did confirm he's looking into the roots of the russia investigation essentially bowing to trump's demands to investigate the investigators. when the report is released in the next week or so we'll get more visibility into the evidence behind the conclusions. in the meantime, attorney general barr deserves the
benefit of the doubt. but we should trust but verify and that's only just begun. that's your reality check. >> john, thank you very much. what else do lawmakers want to learn from bill barr when he's back on capitol hill? we'll speak to the democrat who chaired this hearing yesterday. what did she think about his nonanswers? the best simple dishes ever? great tasting, heart-healthy california walnuts. so simple, so good. get the recipes at walnuts.org. here's the story of green mountain coffee roasters costa rica paraíso. meet sergio. and his daughter, maria. sergio's coffee tastes spectacular. because costa rica is spectacular. so we support farmers who use natural compost. to help keep the soil healthy. and the coffee delicious. for future generations. all for a smoother tasting cup. green mountain coffee roasters.
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within a week i will release the report to the public. >> if the report indicates no collusion, that's it. done, over. >> not afraid at all. >> steve mnuchin was measured, precise in his language. >> if you wish to leave, you may. >> the republicans didn't treat the secretary this way. >> you're going in front of the oversight committee you can win on facts, not emotion. >> as