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very good monday morning. i'm jim sciutto in washington where congress is back in session today. poppy has the day off. lawmakers back at work which means a simmering dispute over house investigations of the president will soon be at full boil over the weekend. the attorney general bill barr turned up the heat when he threatened to skip a hearing of the house judiciary committee later this week. committee chairman jerry nadler turned it up again when he threatened to then subpoena barr to testify. congress has not been in session since before barr released his redacted version of the special counsel report about which
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nadler plans to grill him with help from committee lawyers. seems a reasonable thing. barr, however, the attorney general, is not having it. cnn's lauren fox is on capitol hill. two-time attorney general, washington lawyer for decades. why is he unwilling to answer questions from lawyers on behalf of the judiciary committee regarding the mueller report? has he given an explanation. >> reporter: good morning, jim. it's going to be a blockbuster weekend on capitol hill. bill barr set to be before the committee on wednesday. the testimony is still up in the air and that is because of the way that jerry nadler, the chairman of the committee, wants to structure the committee hearing. he essentially wants to give each member on capitol hill an opportunity on that committee to question barr for five minutes each, but then he wants to allow the committee's lawyers to have questions for 30 minutes. republicans would get 30 minutes, democrats would get 30 minutes. this is something that i am told is not unheard of but is
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certainly very unusual, and i want to just read the statement from the justice department. they're essentially saying that's not going to happen, bill barr won't come before the committee if that's the structure. they said, quote, the attorney general agreed to appear before congress. therefore, members of congress should be the ones doing the questioning. he remains happy to engage with members on their questions regarding the mueller report. not surprising, nadler says, you don't get to tell me how to run my committee. here is what he said yesterday. >> the witness is not going to tell the committee how to conduct its hearing, period. >> what does it say if agent barr doesn't back down? >> we'll have to subpoena him and use whatever means we can to enforce the subpoena. >> reporter: jim, you heard it there. essentially this is a further escalation of the fight that we have seen brewing between the white house, the trump administration and democrats on capitol hill. this, of course, isn't the only issue where they're facing push
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back. certainly a lot to watch appearing on capitol hill this weekend. >> lauren fox on the hill. thank you. joined by susan hennessy, cnn legal analyst and former u.s. attorney. setting aside why bar, who is a lawyer for many decades, would be intimidated by attorneys for the house judiciary committee. does he have any recourse to say, listen, i'll come, but it's got to be committee members, otherwise i won't come. >> certainly the attorney general doesn't have any authority to tell congress how it should conduct its hearings. that said, he does have some leverage. oftentimes the executive branch and congress will clash over the manner in which individuals will testify. oftentimes they'll threaten to issue a subpoena, threaten to take it to court. ordinarily what happens is they reach a compromise solution. here, while bar doesn't have any right to say i will only answer questions to congress, really what he's saying is i'm willing to fight this out. the way it will likely be
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resolved is the two sides coming to a compromise decision. >> just to remind folks, republicans, they used a prosecutor to ask christine blaiford of alleged misconduct by cavanaugh. we'll see about the hypocrisy here. we don't have the sound. i'm sure you remember, she was there and there was controversy why couldn't the members themselves ask her these questions. this happens relatively frequently, does it not? >> it's a little bit unusual for the attorney general to be questioned by committee staff. it's not unheard of. i think the ford hearings show why nadler wants to use this format. that's it's much more effective in getting actual substantive information. whenever you have members questioning, it's divided into five-minute blocks. they begin with grandstanding, speaking more to the cameras. this is the situation in which the substantive information the
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attorney general has is really important. the democratic members want those answers. they feel the lawyers will be better positioned to get that in that kind of format. >> absolutely. like a cross examination in court to some degree. this is part of a bigger picture here because the trump administration is sitting back saying we're not going to talk to any of you at any time. subpoena us. we'll see what happens. what is going to happen here? you're going to have multiple cases here where it might go to court as to whether members of the administration in any context will answer these calls to come testify. >> this really is part of a broader strategy we're seeing out of the white house. it's not unusual for the executive branch to object to certain forms of oversight, certain types of subpoenas. the president said pretty much outright they'll fight in and all subpoenas. really what they're saying is we object to the notion of congressional oversight. the idea that congress can bring members of the executive branch in and get information, demand documents, that's something we've never seen a prior
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president make that assertion before. a little bit gives the game away. ordinarily the executive branch is making its arguments on very narrow legal grounds, there's a reason we object to this particular subpoena. for the trump administration to say we object to any and all subpoenas no matter what, this is not about a meritorious legal argument, it's about being obstructionist in general. >> is it an easy call? >> it would be unusual for a court to step in here. it's more likely this is hardball between the branches and they'll kwcome to an answern their own. the supreme court has held over and over again that congress does have the inherent power of inquiry, it does need to get this information. the actual significant precedent for this was a case involving a woman named ann gorsuch. her son neil gorsuch is sitting on the united states supreme court and may be one of the people who decides -- >> that's an interesting
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coincidence. susan hennessy, thanks very much. the san diego sheriff now says the 19-year-old man accused of shooting four people in a california synagogue acted alone. he is now sitting in a jail cell facing charges of murder and attempted murder after investigators say he killed one person, wounded three others during a passover celebration. today as the synagogue prepares to bury the woman who witnesses say shielded her rabbi from the shooter, we're hearing from one of two men who tried to stop him as his gun jammed. >> as he was discharging the rounds, i ran up to him and i yelled at him and he dropped his weapon and ran out, and i chased him out of the sanctuary. i was in the military and i just ran to fire. that's what i did. i didn't plan it. i didn't think about it. it's just what i did. >> that is bravery in action. cnn correspondent dan simon live in poway, california. dan, tell us what we're learning about this attack and how it was
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thwarted by a few people acting bravely in the moment. >> reporter: jim, let's first talk about the victim who died here. 60-year-old lori gilbert kaye. funeral services will be held for her today. she is being called a hero. she put herself between the shooter and the rabbi. in fact, the rabbi says she took a bullet for the entire congregation. he says the only reason why he is alive today is because of what she did. some of the details here, jim, are absolutely k4i8ing. i can tell you that her husband was also here that morning. he happens to be a physician. he was tending to the wounded. at first he didn't realize he was trying to revive his wife. once he did, he just collapsed, just fainted. very disturbing detail. there are also some other incredible acts of heroism including from a 34-year-old israeli native who took gunfire
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to the leg just after that. he ushered several children to safety and then, of course, we heard from this iraq war veteran who actually tried to chase down the shooter and apparently the shooter dropped his weapon as he screamed at him. and then a border patrol agent actually following the shooter out the door, firing several rounds as the shooter tried to escape. wet don't know what led the shooter to call police. apparently he did so, identified himself and was apprehended a short time later. >> tell us about the wounded rabbi and what he's saying. remarkable as well. as it's happening, he got shot, loses his fingers to these bullets. it's a remarkable story. >> reporter: the rabbi was actually in the banquet hall preparing to deliver his sermon. he heard what sounded like a loud bang. he didn't realize it was gunfire. and then just moments later he
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was actually face-to-face with the shooter. this is the sequence of events from his point of view. take a look. >> a young man standing with a rifle pointing right at me. and i look at him. he had sunglasses on. i couldn't see his eyes, couldn't see his soul. we need to battle darkness with light. no matter how dark the world is, we need to think of a little bit of light pushes away a lot of darkness. >> reporter: the suspect is a 19-year-old college student. we don't know if he had any kind of weapons training. we also don't know how he obtained the gun. apparently at some point during the shooting, the gun jammed. he was unable to fire any further. and if that is, in fact, the case that prevented several more people from dying. jim. >> not to mention folks acting at that crucial moment as well.
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dan simon, thanks very much. one of those wounded in the synagogue attack was an 8-year-old girl. she spoke to our sara sidner after getting out of the hospital. >> reporter: so the piece of shrapnel went in your leg and came out the other side? >> yes. >> reporter: what were you thinking then? did it hurt? >> in the first place i didn't even feel it. after they wiped it and the blood was off and it was -- it felt like i had the giantest bruise ever. it was hurting bad. >> that poor little girl. just happy she's alive. joining me to discuss what the mayor of poway is calling a hate crime, brian levin, director for the center of the study of hate and extremism. thank you so much for taking the time today. you watch the news. you see incidents like this more often. that's not just anecdotal. it's in the numbers. we'll put these up on the screen. hate crimes increasing somewhat
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dramatically in the last four to five years. what do you attribute that rise to. >> thank you for having me, jim. great question. our hearts go out to the family of lori gilbert kaye and the congregation of chabad in poway. you're kpooktly right. we've seen this increase over the last four to five years. nationally we bottomed out with regard to hate crimes in 2014. the big cities, they turned a year earlier. our latest data which we just have coming out showed in 30 major american cities hate crimes are up for a fifth consecutive year. that portends to national increases when the fbi comes out with their 2018 data in the fall. but our data shows hate crimes went up for the fifth consecutive year, the steepest incline. you know what? the second biggest rate of increase last year was
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anti-semitic attacks. we've seen a sea change. we've also seen a rise in white nationalist homicides, rising from 13 to 17. we'll see when the adl data comes out probably later this week. i would bet they'll show similar data to ours with respect to increases not only in hate crimes but anti-semitic hate crimes. we'll see what their data says. >> no question. when you look at the manifesto this shooter wrote before, it had a lot of similarities to the one written by the attacker in christ church new zealand. of course, there attacking mosques, here attacking synagogues. you see the increase, you see the numbers, it's very clear. it's a marked increase. what are the causes of this? what is happening to allow this violence to become more common? >> and the data shows this again. 20%, that's a mark that we
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rarely hit with regard to religion an hate crimes. in 2017, the fbi showed 60% of religion and hate crimes were anti-semitic. we've been seeing a trend towards increasing religion hate crimes, not just against jews, but jews are certainly the ones that are leading, unfortunately, that trend. some of the things that we're looking at are dramatic demographic changes taking place for which jews are being blamed. in other words, not just here in the united states. our research from around the world shows anti-semitism has gone up in england and in other parts of europe as well. this nationalism that is taking place with respect to fear of demographic change, not only here in the united states but elsewhere, when you couple that with two other things, one is a very splintered and polarized sociopolitical landscape and the fragments of social media, these
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fishers allow this anti-semitism to bubble up and, indeed, one in nine americans, abc/"washington post" poll, one in nine say nazi fe views are acceptable. we saw these increase in hate crime on the internet, but it wasn't just -- i'm sorry -- hate speech on the internet. it wasn't just increasing, it was dissipating to more splintered and fragmented echo chambers where this assailant had activity on. >> this self-reenforcing phenomenon within those silos. shocking numbers. thank you for walking us through it brian levin. let's hope we don't have to be talking about it. >> you made one excellent point at the end. there's a chain of these people using social media. what we've seen is propaganda of the deed -- years before we
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would see these folks commit acts of violence trying to encourage other violence by the act itself. now they're using past people and the internet to broadcast their crimes and their manifestos, a different time now. >> sounds like islamist terrorism as well, similar kind of phenomenon. >> yes. >> thanks very much. we'll speak again. still to come this hour, joe biden hits pennsylvania to appeal to the key blue collar voters while beto o'rourke launches his first policy initiative at yosemite national park. the race for 2020 heating up. an nfl rookie was shot just hours after he was drafted by the new york giants. how could this injury affect not only his career before it begins, what does it tell us about violence, and a billion at the box office "avengers end game" hauling in an historic amount of cash, $1.2 billion over just the opening weekend. those are big numbers. .
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beto o'rourke is looking to rev up his 2020 campaign with a major policy announcement today on climate change. the former texas congressman has faced criticism for running a campaign light so far on policy. cnn's leyla santiago joins us from yosemite national park, the backdrop for his announcement. do we know what he's proposing? >> reporter: he detailed the plan on a five-page fact sheet. this is his first major policy rollout. we're in yosemite where there are breathtaking views and scenery. driving in, it's very much a national park scarred by the wildfires. it certainly sets the scene for what he wants to talk about today which is climate change. let's jump right into the bullet points here. he says day one he wants to get executive action on cutting down on pollution and get the u.s. right back into the paris climate agreement.
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he's also saying that he wants to send, in his first bill to congress, something that commits to $5 trillion over a ten-year span. he also wants to work with congress to make sure he sets up some sort of standard that will get the u.s. to net zero emissions by 2050. that chunk of it, in talking about emission reductions is very much in line with the green new deal, something we've heard a lot of the democratic candidates talking about on the 2020 campaign trail. but here is the big question that we hear from a lot of folks when plans are rolled out, how is he going to pay for it? in his plan he says he wants to make structural changes to the tax code and that the revenue that will come from that will be enough to pay for this. this is his first major rollout. and as i've been on the campaign trail, i've heard a lot of voters who say they want more specifics, more policy. one man in south carolina said i love how he's identified the
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problems. now i want him to identify his solutions. here is his first attempt as a 2020 candidate to give some of the solutions to tackle climate change. >> a big driving force for a lot of young supporters. leyla santiago. joe biden kicks off 2020 presidential campaign in pennsylvania. he'll host a meet and greet at a union hall in pittsburgh, after grabbing endorsement of the international association of firefighters. biden's team also reporting big fund-raising numbers, $6.3 million in the first 24 hours of the campaign, that is the highest of all 20 democratic candidates so far. just beating beto o'rourke by a nose there. joining me now, david urban, former democratic mayor of philadelphia michael nutter, thanks very much to both of you
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gentlemen. pennsylvania, obviously battleground state. within pennsylvania, blue collar voters which president trump was able to bring to his side in 2016. we know joe biden has those in his sights now. first to you, david irvin, does he pose a threat to donald trump in that key voting bloc? >> as i've said before in times, winning pennsylvania as a republican in any statewide race isn't easy. it wasn't easy in 2016, won't be easy this time. i do think president trump's record so far speaks for itself. in pennsylvania, a.p. had a report out last week that in march pennsylvania reported the lowest unemployment rate since they've been keeping records, jim. 6.2 million workers in pennsylvania, historic all-time low, have now found work. unemployment at the lowest level since they've been keeping records. real wages have increased -- in
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march real wages increased 3% to hourly working rates at about $19.50 an hour. i think as long as those numbers keep going strong, this president is going to be pretty tough to beat no matter who the candidate is. >> michael nutter, you can't argue with the economic numbers. how is that resonating in the swing district. we can say the midterms democrats with economic numbers did pretty well. how does this go in 2020? the economy seems only to be getting stronger. >> jim, those overall statewide numbers, as interesting as they are, there's a different story on the ground in places like pittsburgh up through allegheny valley and certainly in philadelphia and even the philadelphia suburbs where we see still in many neighborhoods, especially for african-americans and latinos, black and brown people, competingly high unemployment numbers, challenges with economic insecurity, the
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trade policies having a significant effect on agriculture and our farmers all across pennsylvania. agriculture, of course, being our number one industry. because of blockages by this administration, our ability to trade across the world or even nearby country like cuba impeded, if not almost impossible because of policies by donald trump. >> listen, i hear you. i'm sure there are some people not doing as well as others. mayor nutter, does that argument really work with the vast majority who are better off? >> i don't know anyone who thinks the current occupant of the white house is a blue collar guy. probably the last blue collar he saw was probably on one of his polo shirts. >> that's a different argument, and a fair one. >> jim, the fact that the mayor -- >> -- all across pennsylvania.
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>> david, go ahead. it is a fair argument to say that joe biden can appeal more as one of them than a donald trump can. >> look, that doesn't bear itself out like the past races the vice president has run for president, he performed anemically. the mayor overlooks the small fact, you can't argue with facts. that's the tough part about it. hispanic unemployment, all-time low in history. african-american unemployment, all-time low in history. that's not in 49 states and not including pennsylvania. that includes pennsylvania. i promise, this president is going to make a vigorous outreach for african-american votes in pennsylvania and philadelphia, all across the commonwealth as well as hispanic votes. we'll campaign in every ward, every pre sixty, every county in pennsylvania for every vote. listen, i think earlier, in the hour before democratic strategists said democrats lack a coherent economic message
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across the spectrum in 2020. without that message, they're going to fail. i agree with sal linda lake who was on earlier. i agree with that. without the economic message, they're going to fail. >> david, if you want to talk about facts, you should at least be honest and acknowledge the fact that those numbers, many of which you cite, were already going down when the obama administration was transitioning into the current administration. you know those are actually the facts. >> paul krugman, they all said this president is going to -- >> let the mayor finish. >> i didn't hear what he said. those are actually the facts. again, everyone is not doing that well. a lot of people could be doing a whole lot better. let's see how this campaign develops out. you guys know for a fact that joe biden is a person of the
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people. people know that in pennsylvania, and certainly with his pennsylvania roots, he is the working class, middle-class joe. >> i want to hear what his economic argument is. >> he's scranton joe, amtrak joe. he has the ability to connect with these guys in the way a new york billionaire cannot. how does donald trump beat him in pennsylvania? >> let me just tell you, joe biden left pennsylvania in 1952. he was born in scranton, stayed there for nine years, but left the commonwealth. it's a nice image. it's convenient -- >> david, do you know why he left the commonwealth? do you know why he left the commonwealth? >> for a better job. >> his dad left for a better job. >> they had to move because of the economic conditions. he knows what people feel. >> i'm not begrudging the guy. >> you brought it up. you opened that door. he knows, in fact, as a person, an individual, as a child and a young man, what it feels like to
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be economically insecure and there are still many pennsylvanias who are economically insecure. >> i don't dispute that, mr. mayor. i think the party needs a message. >> all right. >> you'll hear a message from many of our candidates and you'll certainly hear something from joe biden today. >> david urban, michael nutter, thank you very much. hours of becoming an nfl draft pick is shot and his college teammate is killed. we'll have more after this break. you should be mad at forced camaraderie. and you should be mad at tech that makes things worse. but you're not mad, because you have e*trade, who's tech makes life easier by automatically adding technical patterns on charts and helping you understand what they mean. don't get mad. get e*trade's simplified technical analysis.
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five men are now free after being trapped in a cave in virginia for nearly two days. the group entered the cave on friday night. they got stuck there. rescue crews worked around the clock despite heavy rain, chilly temperatures, to pull the men finally to safety. cnn's alexandra field is live in
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cleveland, virginia. alex, first of all, how are the men doing this morning and how did they get them out? >> reporter: they've all been taken to the hospital to be checked out. recovering from a harrowing weekend. these are a group of men that planned to go into what's called the sigh clops cave. the cave is on private property, but it piques the interest of explorers. they got down there, didn't have enough food, didn't have enough water. they had an unexpected downpour and found themselves trapped, unable to make their way out. early in the hours of sunday morning one man did get out. he's the one who went and got help. he was able to let authorities know where exactly his friends were. the group of men stuck inside ranging from 34 to 59. local and state cave rescue workers came together to plot a plan to get them out. they immediately went out to see the condition of these men who were exhausted and fighting off
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hypothermia, able to bring them warm blankets and food and then lead them back out. the rescue workers involved in the operation say when they got down and saw the group, certainly the group was in good spirits. jim, we imagine smiles on all their faces when they saw help had arrived after two days in that cave. >> just glad they're safe. alexandra field, thanks very much. hours after being drafted by the new york giants on saturday, an nfl rookie is wounded in a shooting, the same shooting that killed a college teammate. andy scholes joining us. >> it is heartbreaking. hours after fulfilling a childhood dream of playing in the nfl, 23-year-old corey ballentine was shot at an off-campus party. he played college football at washburn university, drafted by the giants saturday afternoon. here is the call giants head coach pat sure her made to ballentine after taking him in
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the sixth round. >> glad to add you to our team. >> glad to be a part of the franchise. i've been waiting for this opportunity for a lifetime. glad to be even a part of the conversation. definitely ready to start learning. >> hours after that college, ballentine and due want simmons was at a party. a vehicle pulled up to the gathering and the people inside asked ballentine and simmons a question. when the car circled back around, someone inside started shooting. ballentine suffered non-life-threatening injuries and is expected to make a full recovery. simmons died in the shooting, it was ballentine that called simmons' father to tell him what happened. >> at first i just felt like they were calling, corey, congratulations. when they said he had been shot, my heard just dropped. >> jim, police say they're still investigating what exactly happened there in topeka.
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>> tell us, andy, what the giants are saying about the situation and do they believe he's still going to be able to still play football? >> the giants released a statement saying we're aware of the tragic situation and continue to gather information. we have spoken to corey and he's recovering in the hospital. our thoughts are with dwane simmons family, friends and teammates. it's unfortunate what was supposed to be one of the happiest days of ballentine's life turned into one of the saddest. he's expected to make a full recovery and presumably play for the giants one day. >> good news for him and his family. andy scholes, thanks so much. baltimore police are looking for the gunman who opened fire on two cookouts just last night, killing one person, injuring seven others. police say the suspect approached the intersection where the two cookouts were taking place and began firing just into the crowd. police do not know if the gunman was targeting someone in particular. investigators say the evidence suggests someone may have also fired back at the gunman,
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adviser to president trump has confirmed that the u.s. agreed to pay north korea $2 million for the release of detained college student otto warmbier. sunday john bolton said joseph young, former u.s. special representative for north korea of policy signed that document in june 2017. bolton says the u.s. never, or at least not yet, has made any payments. warmbier was in a coma when he was released. sadly he died just days after being released. ambassador yun, is it correct, you signed such a release? >> yes. he's completely correct. i can confirm when i went there almost two years ago, i did sign a letter of assurance that the united states government would pay in medical expenses some $2 million. >> were you under instructions
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there to do anything, under instructions from the secretary of state or from the president or both to do whatever was necessary to get his release? >> well, as soon as the north korean side told me that his bill for $2 million would have to be paid, of course, i contacted my boss, then secretary of state rex tillerson to ask him. he got back to me very quickly thereafter to say, yes, go ahead and sign. >> was it your understanding that secretary tillerson had the president's approval for that? >> it was my understanding. i never asked him. >> this was coming directly from the president who has since said he would never pay some ransoms, he called them. bolton says the u.s. has not paid this money yet. will the u.s. pay this money? should the u.s. pay this money? >> jim, i don't know. i left the government about a year ago, and i know until i had
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left, u.s. government had not paid the money. my view is that, of course, this involved two separate decisions. one is should we sign. we did sign. second, having signed, should we pay. my view is yes. if you've
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today, life-changing technology from abbott is helping hunt them down at their source. because the faster we can identify new viruses, the faster we can get to stopping them. the most personal technology, is technology with the power to change your life. life. to the fullest.
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