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yes. i think spying did occur. also new this morning, international brinksmanship. the president is threatening to impose tariffs on all chinese imports, and he is putting iran on notice. >> hearing little stories about iran. if they do anything, they will suffer greatly. we'll see what happens with iran. >> "the new york times" reports the president's top national security advisers are reviewing a pentagon contingency plan to send as many as 120,000 troops to the middle east. that is gulf war levels or invasion of iraq levels, i should say. should iran attack u.s. forces or speed up work on nuclear weapons? that would be a major action. interesting they're even discussing it. joining us now, david, abby phillip, and david gregory. abby, i want to start with you on the reporting about what william barr is doing. he's appointed john durham, who is the u.s. attorney in the
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state of connecticut, to launch a new investigation into the origins of the russia investigation, which is on top of the utah u.s. attorney, who has been looking into this vaguely. he was appointed by jeff sessions. and a doj inspector general investigation by michael horowitz, which should be completed soon. three is the charm here? >> well, bill barr kind of has to do this. i mean, one of the whole points of having bill barr in this role as opposed to jeff sessions, who the president grew to almost december pi decemb despise by the end of his ten e tenure, is having the confidence of the president. he has to take this step and put his own spin on it. that being said, it seems he has appointed someone who has the experience in doing this under both democratic and republican
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administrations. this is, in some ways, a durham specialty. i think that there is the sense here that barr chose someone who has specific experience in looking into this specific type of thing. but there's no question in my mind that barr has almost no choice but to do this because the president basically appointed him into this position in order to delve more deeply into this very issue, which is almost of paramount importance to him after the conclusion of the mueller probe. >> i think it is interesting to look at who durham is. i think it is relevant. he is considered a dogged prosecutor. he is a career prosecutor. as abby said, he was used to investigate corruption. he was used by eric holder to investigate the treatment of detainees. on paper, he seems as though he is non-partisan and will be able
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to get to the bottom, if anything got wrong. as we have seen before, sometimes, people who seem to have all the right credentials on paper, once they get, somehow, into the trump orbit, seem to become partisan. >> well, we're also fast forwarding a step here, which is that we have to acknowledge first and foremost how just not normal this is, right, for the president of the united states to be giving directives of a wish list of investigations that he wants the department of justice to follow through on. that's just not the normal oval office/doj relationship. i think this is why, when you saw attorney general barr before the senate judiciary committee, who had a pretty composed performance that day, except for one moment that really rattled him. that was when senator kamala harris sort of went after him -- >> we have it. >> oh, sorry. you have the sound? >> magic of television. >> you can re-create it, which i
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think would be fantastic, or here it is. >> has the president or anyone at the white house ever asked or suggested that you open an investigation of anyone, yes or no, please, sir? >> yeah. i'm trying to grapple with the word "suggest." i mean, there had been discussions of matters out there that they have not asked me to open an investigation. >> perhaps they suggested? >> i wouldn't say suggest. >> hinted? >> i don't know. >> he lost his command of the english language for a second. >> he ended up with, i don't know. that's where he ended up. she clearly got under his skin a bit on this very point. listen, it is no secret, donald trump wants the investigators investigated. he says that publicly to us every day. again, i think she was trying to get at, how much is the president directing the department of justice to do his wish list? >> based on the actions he took the last 12 hours, an alternative answer, instead of that word salad, might have been
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yes. it might have been a simpler way out of it, though he clearly didn't want to say it like that, david gregory. what do you make of all this? >> well, i think if you're vladimir putin of russia, you have to be saying, wow. what a return on a small investment. i've got the united states not only reeling from my interference in the 2016 race, but now we have the government turning against the fbi and the intelligence community rather than on us, when we were the perpetrator. now, we have a special counsel of high reputation detailing in graphic detail the extent, active measures and other measures used to interfere by russia. that's not where the area focuses by the government. jim clapper said it a few minutes ago on our air, let's remember the predicate here. there was concern on the intelligence committee, that the trump campaign was unwhitingly
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compromised by russian eh toffo to influence the campaign. the president's successor to jim comey, chris wray, defended the work of the fbi. that doesn't mean an inspector general cannot unearth those areas of an investigation that maybe went wrong, maybe were excessive. but the idea that the predicate for the investigation wasn't sound is exactly what president trump, the begriereaved preside trump and those close to him, want this to be, a conspiracy. i think this is timed, in effect, to give the president a new, shiny object to hold up in the election year. >> to your point, it is strange that bill barr couldn't answer that. where is the shame? if you believe the intelligence collection activities were unlawful somehow, where's the shame? why was he so tripped up by that? i mean, clearly, there's something conflicted happening because that should have been an easy answer. >> we now know from his multiple
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appearances before the senate and the house that he is very careful with his answers. he is meticulous with the words he chooses. apparently, he was nervous of getting caught with some kind of either lie or admission there. >> even as meticulous as he's been, he's also thrown out there, without evidence, the suggestion that there was wrongdoing in this probe. he's called it spying, which was not just a random word that he chose. he compared it to this illegal surveillance of -- not illegal, i should say, but improper surveillance of anti-war activists in the '60s. bill barr has actually kind of gone way farther, i believe, than the evidence is out there. he's declined to provide backing for his words. then, when other officials like christopher wray are asked about the similar topic, they say the opposi opposite.
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they, themselves, who have been there longer than he has, don't have this idea of backing up the surveillance. bill barr doesn't say things by accident and, yet, shehe's thro chum in the water on this sensitive topic. you have to wonder why. given how careful he knows how to be, why does he continue to say things, but at the same time, declining to provide any supporting evidence for his claims, and seeming to prejudge the outcome of this investigation that he has now authorized into the origins of the probe. >> david, that leads us to the up te intelligence of iran and what is happening between the escalations with the u.s. and iran. according to "the new york times," as recently as april, the intelligence suggested iran was not doing anything wrong, i suppose is the right word, or doing anything, at least, to exacerbate the tension, then something shifted on may 3rd.
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now, you know, there are reports that senior advisers are being presented with contingency plans to maybe send 120,000 troops to that area if necessary. where are we? >> yeah, it seems to me we're in a classic saber rattling place on this, rather than actually on the precipice of some big military conflict here. i think we have to remember how opposed donald trump is to getting the united states in a military mess in the middle east. i mean, that is sort of a through line throughout his campaign and foreign policy vision as we have it. unlike his consistency, let's say, on tariffs and trade that we're seeing with china, i think here he has time and again really wanted to remove the united states from any such kind of what would obviously be a really messy conflict. it seems to me this is, right now, a bit more bluster, saber rattling, than something far
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more dangerous or serious than that. >> david gregory, james clapper was making the point that even saber rattling can be dangerous in this situation. you have iranian forces and their naval vessels patrolling the straits in the persian gulf. if you increase the presence there, something could go wrong by accident. >> right. that's what i worry most about, is miscalculation. we've seen this before in our coverage of these kind of cry cea crises. you have to rely on a good internal process with the national security team. i don't believe that's in place. you hear the president, who escalates his rhetoric without any attention to detail or care. you don't give yourself very much room to maneuver. the iranians kind of -- you know, we should remember, the reason there was a nuclear deal in the first place was the economic pressure that was on iran. that's why they want the europeans to get involved here,
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to lessen that pressure, to try to revive the deal in some fashion. they're a little bit more comfortable getting into a back and forth with america and some kind of escalation rather than dealing with the fact that they have an economy that's under such pressure, that got them to the negotiating table in the first place. i think miscalculation is the biggest fear here. and the fact you have a national security team with some real hawks, as national security adviser john bolton, as the secretary of state, to the point where the president in the position of trying to tamp that down a little bit. >> yeah. i mean, abby, and some people, you know, foreign policy experts, they're already hearing echoes of iraq, trying to make sure that the intel, which seems quite opaque right now, is put t buttoned up before this escalates. >> the reason people are feeling or seeing the echoes is because of the way people around the president are behaving.
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mike pompeo flying all over the world, cancelling meetings. basically saying he can't go here because there is an emergency happening somewhere else. i think that it is giving the sense of urgency and a sense of emergency but, yet, i think the public hasn't been explained to, what is going on here? i think this administration has not said very much at all actually about what is causing them to conclude that there is such a significant threat coming from iran at the moment. as david gregory pointed out, the president has been pulling back from john bolton. he is uncomfortable with bolton's seeming willingness to saber rattle just quite so much on so many different fronts, in iran and venezuela. i think that the president does, in fact, have that instinct, to pull back. at the same time, i think we have to wonder, you know, will his aides really create such a unified force and present to him
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evidence that makes him believe there is a significant threat that we do, perhaps, accidentally end in a conflict, in one place or in the other. >> david, david, abby, thank you all very much for all of the perspective. >> thanks, guys. beto o'rourke. you may not have heard that name for a while. >> i remember him. >> well, he's trying to reboot his campaign for president. because out of sight, out of mind in some ways. where has he been? harry shares all of this in his forecast with us next. so are the traits you love about your breed, but behind them are health needs you may not see. royal canin believes in tailored nutrition, to ensure his long back and playful spirit get the joint support they need. or to help this gentle giant keep her heart going strong. we've developed over 200 formulas to support the magnificence that makes them, them. find the right formula for your pet at royalcanin.com.
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montana governor steve bullock announcing a presidential run this morning. he becomes the 22nd democrat candidate to challenge donald trump for the white house. there's something about harry. let's get the forecast with cnn's senior politics writer and analyst. harry, this makes your day. the field gets bigger and bigger. >> 22. i mean, lucky number 22. i feel so glorious. each week seems to bring a new participant onto the island. the question will be, who will be kicked off first? we have to wait and see on that one. >> what is steve bullock's lane? >> there is nowhere to go but up, steve. congratulations on this. 0.5% nationally. 0.3% in iowa. 0% in new hampshire. he is struggling a little in the polls. as you pointed out -- >> he's only been in for an hour. >> this, i think, is the selling point to him. that is, electability. if it is number one in the voters' minds, he out performed the 2016 baseline in his state
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of montana by 24 percentage points. that's good. he's going to sell this hard. nine other governors outperformed that baseline by more from 2015 to 2018. it is good, but it is not great. it is not like he is the greatest of all time. he is good. he has a case to sell here. he won in montana, a state that trump won by 20 percentage points. >> it is not like the state is about to go blue, ever. >> no, no, no. this is the key thing to point out, governors races are different than a senate or house race. >> beto o'rourke is doing something of a campaign re-launch this week. you've taken a look at the numbers, and you've determined he is doing it because he has to. >> i would say, look, look at this. this is beto o'rourke's polling average nationally. when he entered mid-march, he was 10% of the hike. today, 4%. he dropped from third place to sixth place. he is behind joe biden, bernie sanders, kamala harris, pete buttigieg, and even elizabeth warren, who had been struggling early in the campaign and has risen a little.
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not just that. look at the state polling averages, or the best poll in the early states. 3% for o'rourke in iowa. 3% in new hampshire. 2% in south carolina. these are the states, of course, he's gone and visited so often. it just doesn't seem so far like voters are responding. >> it is within the margin of error of steve bullock, who got in ten minutes ago. >> exactly right. he is closer to the bottom of the pack right now than the top of the pack. biden is in the mid to high 20s in all states so far. beto o'rourke is 40 points behind joe biden in south carolina. >> it sounds like his argument that he'll be making today is he's been microfocused on the local town halls. he hasn't done any national media. does that hold water for why they've been anemic? >> if he's doing the town halls in the small states, he should be able to break through, and he's simply not. it is not a national phenomenon where o'rourke is failing. he is doing poorly nationally but worse in the early states. the more voters got to know him,
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the worse they tend to like him. >> other metrics on o'rourke. >> plolook at this. this is another indicator. you were talking about cable news mengmentions. when he entered in march, the last week of march, he was first in cable news mentions. this past week, he was eighth. he was even behind amy klobuchar for cable news mentions. what about google searches, voter interest? he was first in google searches the first week he entered. this week, he was only sixth. again, he's behind elizabeth warren. the slew of candidates named again. it is clear from these that it is not just about the polls. it is also about the fact he's lagging in cable news media. this is key. beto o'rourke was a cable news phenomenon. he was almost a creation of the media in some ways. no now, he's not getting the energy, the boost. >> i don't know it was the cable news creation. he raised a lot of money. he raised a lot of money, so that was notable. >> look at this.
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i have an answer for you right here. >> very good. >> we're doing great tv here, folks. look at this. on opening day, he raised $5.8 million. that was third best. i should point out, and this is something that, john, you noted at the time, we were suspicious of what was going on. initially, he came across as $6.1 million, but that included $300,000 he raised that could only be used on general election. today, we don't know how much he is raising, but he himself acknowledged that fundraising has slowed down. that's usually not a particularly good sign for someone who is supposed to be a fundraising machine. >> we have adventures in signage for new york mayor bill de blasio, who is considering a run for president. may announce in the next week. put up this video of him. he was at trump tower. well, we gave away the lead here. he's got the signs, talking about the green new deal. look at the escalator behind him. signs that say, worst mayor ever. didn't go the way he was hoping here. >> in fact, less than 25% of all new york city democrats actually want him to run for president of
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the united states. his polling in the early states is really not good, though voters don't know him in a lot of the states. he has a negative favorability rating among democrats. really something that's difficult. right now, if you're bill de blasio, the polli ining isn't looking good in new york city or in the united states. >> don't do a press conference in front of the elevator. >> it worked for donald trump. >> yes. i mean -- >> he's the president. >> he invented it. >> he's just a copier of donald trump. go down an escalator. that's what you use them for. one last thing, you want to feel old today? look at this. >> yeah. >> "seinfeld" ended 21 years ago. >> no way. >> 21 years away today. people born on that day can go clubbing. they can go drinking. they can go gambling. someone who had no idea about "seinfeld" when they were born, they can do all those things. >> you know why i don't feel old? >> she is keeping us young. >> no "seinfeld" curse for her. >> not at all.
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>> thank you. actress felicity huffman was crying as she pleaded guilty to a scheme to boost her daughter's s.a.t. scores. now, she has to wait four months to find out if she'll serve time in jail. brynn gingras is live in bos to be -- boston with an update. >> reporter: felicity huffman walked into the courthouse holding the hand of her brother. it was an emotional plea in front of the judge who will sentence her later this year. she did cry. there were tears when prosecutors laid out the evidence they had against her, saying she paid $15,000 to convicted mastermind of this entire scheme, rick singer. to get a proctor to change the answers of her older daughter's test exams, boosting her scores. she said that she didn't know what rick singer was doing with that money, who he was shelling it out to as part of his scam, but she said everything else prosecutors said i did, i did.
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they also laid out the fact they had evidence that the money came from her account. it kind of gives us a little more detail about the evidence that prosecutors had against her. what's next? sentencing. she is going to be sentenced in september. prosecutors say they will recommend the low end of the sentencing, four months. we shall see what she shall get, and we will see in september. guys, back to you. >> brynn gingras for us in boston. thank you very much. president trump warning iran that it will suffer greatly if it provokes the united states. we'll get reaction from iran's ambassador to the united nations here next. but, is fast enough? or, do you want speed and style? introducing performance, born of refinement. the lexus rc line. experience amazing at your lexus dealer.
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are we going to war with ir iran? are you seeking regime change? >> we'll see what happens with iran. if they do anything, it'll be a very bad mistake, if they do anything. i'm hearing little stories a bt iri about ar -- iran. >> president trump warning iran after secretary of state traveled to brussels to share
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about what he says iran poses to u.s. interests. joining us now is ambassador to iran. the president is saying he hears stories about iran. intelligence suggests iran is behind the sabotage in the strait of hormuz the other day. was iran involved? >> definitely not. this is something we regret. this has to be a thorough investigation on this incident, which is dealing with security in the persian gulf. it's for iran, as well. we want a thorough investigation. let me tell you, these allegations are being given by
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certain people in washington who whisper in presidents' ears, and some other people in our region. netanyahu. these people are spreading lies to provoke, to prepare the ground for a conflict in our neighborhood. >> no involvement from iranian proxies either? no one connected to iran? >> as i said, iran is not in the business of doing such a thing. we need to have a thorough investigation as to what was the -- what has happened and who is responsible for it. >> the united states predicated the movement of a u.s. aircraft carrier and other equipment to the persian gulf based on what they told the media was intelligence that iran was planning some kind of attacks on u.s. interest. what about that intelligence?
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>> these are all fake intelligence. these are fake intelligence based on certain narrow minded agenda, as i said, pursued by certain people in washington, as well as in our region. they are making up these allegations. and in order to create fake stories. >> do you have any plans -- does iran have any plans, directly or through its proxies o r y ies on iraq, in lebanon, to attack u.s. interests or troops? >> we have a vested interest with iraq, and we do not interfere in the affairs of iraq. it is a sovereign government. we have good relations with that country. >> it was reported overnight, and cnn has confirmed -- well, "the new york times" reported, let me say this, that the national security council was briefed on pentagon plans to deploy some 120,000 u.s. troops to the persian gulf region if iran attacks u.s. interests in there. what's your reaction to these
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plans? >> these are all psychological warfare, in our opinion. we are not in the business of trying to create a conflict in our neighborhood. nobody is going to have benefit from such a conflict in our region, except for a few, some people in washington and some countries in our neighborhood. >> you've heard the president of the united states say it would be a very big mistake if iran does anything. what do you think he means ? >> i don't know. you should ask him. iran is having great relations with our neighbors. iran is in the persian gulf area. we are not in gulf of mexico. these questions should be directed to those people who have come to our neighborhood from thousands of miles. we are there. we are protecting our interest in our neighborhood, and we are protecting the safety and security of the persian gulf area. >> you are increasing your stockpiles of heavy water and
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enriched uranium. why? >> because the nuclear deal was the result of many years of intense negotiations between iran and a number of countries. then, last year, president trump decided to leave the deal. our partners in that deal told us not to rush to withdraw from the agreement, and we did. we accepted their offer. we waited for one year. we were very patient. unfortunately, after one year, we came to this conclusion that nothing actually is happening as regards to iran's interest, based on what we agreed in the jcpoa. so we decided for 60 days to not -- not to honor only two commitments, and we will see
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what will happen in the course of the next 60 days. >> do you want -- does iran want nuclear weapons? >> no. because it is against our religion. our supreme leader has made a verdict on the prohibition of nuclear weapons. besides, nuclear weapons are not within the defense structure of iran. >> last question, the u.s. president has said he would welcome a call from iran to negotiate. i know you have said that the united states pulled out of the iran nuclear deal, so what is there to talk about? but is there any condition with which iranian leaders would speak to president trump? >> you know, the policy of maximum pressure, and the offer of a dialogue, are mutually exclusive. they cannot expect iran to accept an offer under pressure. why why? the policy of maximum pressure is creating pressure for the iranian people. we can't accept a dialogue based
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on intimidation and threats. >> ambassador, thank you very much for being with us. please come back on "new day." interesting discussion. i appreciate your time, sir. >> thank you very much, sir. john, anti-sehanti-semitism america has reached a high level. >> the threat today is one we haven't seen in this country in recent memory. >> we're going to take a closer look at this growing and deadly threat, next. as a financial advisor, i tell my clients not to worry about changing their minds in retirement. you may have always imagined your dream car as something fast. then one day you decide it just needs to be safe enough to get her to college and back. principal. we can help you plan for that.
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beaten in the streets of brooklyn. another sucker punched in new york. in los angeles, a driver targets jewish men with his car screaming, f-ing jews. six months apart, targeting synagogues with the attempt to till kill jews. in april, one worshipper killed. the direct threat against american jews as victim of vandalism, assault, and murder is at alarming levels. >> we're talking about the hi highest levels of incidents. it's unfolded in an ugly way. >> reporter: for a third year in a row, the anti-defamation league says anti-semitic incidents in america rose to historic highs, each of the 1,879 dots, a physical manifestation of hate in 2018. >> the threat environment today is one that we haven't seen in this country in recent memory. >> reporter: george saleem
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oversees the center for extremism and has spent more than a decade working to fight extremism and radicalization at the department of homeland security. the growing, deadly threat, he says, is homegrown and overwhelmingly far right and white. >> there's this concept within white supremacy circles of individuali individualism. the white race is in danger, and they need to act now. >> reporter: the evidence of the growing threat is plain to see. synagogues with bullet holes. >> i was centimeters away from death. i still feel the power. >> reporter: rabbi goldstein came to poway, california, in the '80s with a dream to have a safe oasis for the jewish community. his sense of security was shattered in seconds. at what point did you see a gunman walk into your synagogue? >> it's so hard to go back to
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the moment. it's right there in the lobby. ten feet away from me. standing there, feet spread apart. >> reporter: marking the door and wall, hit and killed congressman lori kay, there to pray for her recently deceased mother. then the rabbi was hit. >> my granddaughter looks up to me and says, grandfather, you're bleeding. >> you didn't know you were hit in. >> i didn't know i was hit. the look on her face, she was so traumatized. just 4 1/2 years old. pictures you see of blacks and whites during the holocaust. that's when you see those images. not 2019. in the united states of america. >> reporter: 8-year-old noy noya dehan and her uncle were
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injured by gunfire in the synagogue. >> aiming at all the kids. he was aiming where the kids were. it was terrifying, scary. >> reporter: the 19-year-old white male suspect wrote of killing jews in an open letter before the attack. i feel no remorse. i only wish i'd killed more. he said his inspiration came from the slaughter of 50 muslims at two mosques at christchurch, new zealand, and the attack in pittsburgh, both perpetrated by white supremacists. the mayor said this is not the city loved. >> last year, a family had swastikas painted on their house. >> reporter: the attack didn't surprise this resident. >> i hear, this isn't poway, it is a slap in the face to the people who experienced the
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bigotry, the racism, the anti-semitism. there is another element and to ignore it is disrespectful to those who experienced it. >> reporter: according to the adl, all but four states saw incidents of anti-semitism, down from 2017, where all 50 states had incidents for the first time ever. the most deadly at the hands of far right-wing extremists. >> let me be very clear, white supremacy and white nationalism is a real and persistent threat. law enforcement at the federal, state, and local level need to take this threat much more seriously. >> reporter: if it isn't, he says, the deadly trend may continue. >> never safe again. you don't feel safe again. if this could happen to us, it can happen to anywhere and everywhe everywhere. >> reporter: sarah sidner, cnn, poway, california. >> it can happen anywhere. it is such an important message. these attacks seem to be
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so this week we're bringing you stories of exceptional people who are making a lasting impact around the world. we call the series "champions for change." it's our chance to revisit
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amazing change makers we have met in the past who rocked our world. and for me that's literally what happened. you might have heard of the young at heart chorus. i met them in 2008 working for night line at abc. they are an antidote to cynicism and an an inspiration for new people every day. ♪ you can't start a fire without a spark ♪ ♪ this gun is for hire ♪ even if we're just dancing in the dark ♪ >> the young at heart chorus has a unique membership. >> it's a performance group of older people ranging in age now from 75 to 90. >> and how young are you? >> 78. >> i will be 90 in november. >> when you are up there singing, do you feel 90? >> no, i don't feel any age. ♪
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♪ dance to the music >> and the chorus has a unique repertoire. >> seniors singing rock and roll is the simplistic way of saying it, yes? >> it is. it's a very limited way of saying it, yeah. >> why limited? >> because there's more to it than that. >> i think for older people it's a real joy to see old people on stage as opposed to in the seats in the audience. i think that breaks a lot of rules. i think that the music we choose to do breaks a bit of the mold of what seniors are used to singing. ♪ tainted love >> don't give up when you get older. don't be afraid of getting old because you have so much to offer. you have so much to give. >> so the first time i visited with the young at heart chorus it was 2008, i had spent much of the previous five years going back and forth to baghdad
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covering the u.s. war in iraq. i meet young at heart and what i really need more than anything is a story that's, you know, not violent and will just make me smile and, man, did i find it. when i first met you, which was 11 years ago -- >> right. >> -- you told me that -- >> it's like the super bowl, it's like the world's best bar mitzvah and being ordained as a pope. i still feel that way. it gave me a purpose to want to wake up in the morning and come to rehearsal and participate in something that just was great. >> and everyone needs to participate, as i learned, even a reporter can't stand around and watch. >> we were pretty much getting ready to go and you said to me, no, wait a minute. >> so i sang barry manilow's copa cabana ♪ at the copa, copa cabana ♪ the hottest spot north of
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havana ♪ >> the chorus is always about 25, 26 members and it changes. >> yes. >> the membership changes. >> yes, it does. you know, we lose a lot of people. we have lost a lot of people. there's probably maybe four or five people left from the chorus you saw in 2008. >> so 11 years ago young at heart had performed in a prison, basically once or twice. they went in and they sang before the prisoners and it was a very moving experience, but it was performance. now 11 years later it's part of their program. they are inside the prisons singing with the prisoners. >> when you hear that young at heart is co on the calendar. >> i get excited. i get excited. it will be the night before and i already went to go to bed early. it keeps me going definitely. >> they know it's an hour, hour and a half where they will be able to express themselves in a way that they feel really
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comfortable doing. >> i'm just doing this because, i don't know, i want to change, do you know what i mean, i want to be a new person. this is a new side of me. >> do they inspire you? >> of course. ♪ just let me reassure you >> it's a blessing to both of us, the prisoners and to us. we mix between the grandfather or the grandmother that they can't see or may not even have. we're saying to them, look, you are okay. you are going to be all right. don't quit. >> what's changed for you since we first met? >> my age. i've become one of them. i'm now 65, you know, i get medicare. the average age of this group is 84 and i can't imagine what i'm going to be doing when i'm 84. i look at what they're doing and i have deep appreciation for it all. >> and i do, too, because if they can do it, who am i to say no?
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to a little james brown ♪ ♪ and i feel nice ♪ like sugar and spice >> this chorus some day people will look back and they will say they did good things for people of all ages. ♪ so good, so good ♪ i've got you >> don't quit your day job. >> i'm not going to have a day job. >> john, you are not going to have a day job because agents are calling. you really came out of your shell. that was fantastic. >> there was a point to it. i have to tell you when i first met them 11 years ago i had no idea they were going to make me sing. i was ready to leave and they were like, you have to sing. and the feeling i had was, i can't say no to this. >> of course not. >> if there are people 90 years old up there putting it all on
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the line, you have to participate and that's the message. >> first of all, they are remarkable. >> yes. >> what an inspiration. is there an age minimum or can we all join? >> well, no, you have to be 75. i think it's either 70, 72 or 75 to join. they keep moving it older and older as we get an aging upon lags. >> that's something to look forward to. i feel like you started as lounge lizard with "copa cabana" and then you segued into burn it down roll and roller. >> i knew they were going to force me to sing this time because they had done it before. i went thinking what can i do? i need to raise my game because they raised their game. >> you did it. >> again, they are an antidote to cynicism and they make me smile. >> they made me smile, too. i can't believe that that woman was almost 90 years old. i think she is the one who was singing the talking heads. >> and then you heard steve martin there, not the steve martin, but i talked to 11 years ago, he had 90 now, he is still singing.
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after a fall, in a neck brace. good for all of them. >> that was inspiring. >> we will share these inspiring stories all week. don't miss the hour long champions for change special this saturday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. i might sing madonna for that one. >> i look forward to t don't spare us. i feel in the next hour you should also sing something. >> i have to hold it back a little bit. >> we'll see. "new day" continues right now. the top federal prosecutor in connecticut now aiding attorney general bill barr in reviewing the origins of the 2016 russia investigation. the fbi acted lawfully. the whole thing was about russia. >> they are on much better footing with mr. durham. some of the tactics used will be very difficult to defend. china is already contemplating more tariffs. >> there can be retaliation, but it can't be very substantial. >> given the rhetoric we are hearing it's hard to envision how they can resolve. pompeo will be meeting with putin. iran is set to be top of the
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agenda. >> we need to avoid taking maximalist approach towards war. >> i'm hearing stories about iran. if they do anything they will suffer greatly. >> announcer: this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> all right. good morning, everyone. welcome to your new day, it is tuesday, may 14th. it's 8:00 in the east. we begin with details about a new russia investigation. a source tells cnn that attorney general william barr has tapped a top federal prosecutor to look into the origins of the russia probe and to determine if intelligence collected about the trump campaign was lawful. meanwhile, secretary of state mike pompeo just arrived in russia where he will meet with the foreign minister and the president, vladimir putin, in just hours. this comes amid fears of a military confrontation between the u.s. and iran. president trump is warning iran that they will, quote, suffer greatly if the u.s. is provoked. we have a lot to talk about. joining us now is abby phillips, cnn white house correspondent, david axelrod, cnn senior
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political commentator and host of "the ax files" and shawna thomas for vice news tonight. let's start back here at home what's happening with bill barr. shaw shawna, this will be the third investigation into the trump ties to russia and the origin of that investigation. we haven't heard the results of the other two. i don't even know what the status is of the other two but michael horowitz, the ig is supposedly on it and i guess reaching a conclusion at some point. not sure why we need john durham and a third investigation, but bill barr has ordered one. >> and the attorney general has said that we expect the ig report very, very soon, probably in june. so we will find out a little bit more about the origins of the investigation. but it is a little bit confusing that if the president wants to move on from this and the mueller report he says it didn't find any conspiracy in it and it didn't come to a c

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