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newly in the hands of an attorney general who admits he shares the president's suspicions of the mueller probe, specifically with how it began. remember this? >> i think there is a spying did occur, yes. i think spying did occur. >> well, overnight, the president ordered leaders across the u.s. intelligence community to give attorney general bill barr whatever he wants as barr oversees a third investigation of the russia probe's origins. he also empowered barr to declassify any intelligence he chooses. supposedly -- and i'm quoting here -- to, quote, ensure that all americans learn the truth. meanwhile, the white house refuses to budge on any of the supporting evidence for the mueller report. we'll get to the irony of all of that in a moment, but let's begin with the facts and the significance of it this morning. my colleague, evan perez, is with me from washington. this is an extraordinary granting of power. and for many, it's alarming.
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why? >> well, this is sweeping power for an attorney general to have. and just to reinforce what you just said -- you know, the president is saying that he doesn't want the public to know what don mcgahn has to say about what happened in the white house. he doesn't want his tax returns to be made public. but cia's sources and methods, that's totally fine, if the attorney general determines that that is the case. and so, this is an order that orders the intelligence agencies to provide support, to provide any assistance that the attorney general wants as part of this review that they're doing, this investigation of the investigation to look into the origins of the russia investigation, which the attorney general has made clear he's very suspicious about. and so, we'll read a piece of the order, where it says, "the attorney general may declassify, downgrade or direct a declassification or downgrading of information or intelligence that relates to the attorney general's review." again, this gives him sweeping
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power over the intelligence agencies to take information that they may have collected at the beginning of this investigation, and make it public if he determines -- if the attorney general determines that's in the interests of essentially exposing what happened here. again, these are words that you hear from the attorney general. he's suspicious not only of what the fbi was doing but what the cia and other agencies were doing. of course, there's a strong reaction from the democrats. adam schiff, the chairman of the intelligence committee, tweeted the following. he said, "while trump stonewalls the public from learning the truth about his obstruction of justice, trump and barr conspired to weaponize law enforcement and classified information against their political enemies. the cover-up has entered a new and dangerous phase. this is un-american." a lot of concern, poppy, about exactly how this goes, how this ends. as you mentioned, there's already multiple investigations. there's a couple of reviews from a couple u.s. attorneys as well as an inspector general review that's still ongoing.
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>> right. >> well, yeah, you've got the attorneys general in utah, in connecticut, michael horowitz's ig report, and now this. and evan, what if they don't all have the same conclusion? >> right. i think this -- because the attorney general is the top guy at the justice department, he will be the final arbiter. he will be the final voice, not those more independent investigations, as you will, that are going to be done by those other offices. >> okay, evan. thank you. turning now to talk about this, former prosecutor elise wheel and fbi special agent josh campbell. josh, you just heard adam schiff call this dangerous and un-american. not just him. you have the former director of national intelligence james clapper weighing in. here's what he said last night on "ac360." >> there's already been so much information declassified already that, particularly in the form of the mueller report, and the previous indictments.
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i wonder what else is going to be declassified that risk jeopardizing sources and methods. >> is he right, that this is dangerous? >> well, i'm of two minds on this. and let's stipulate that at the outset, that transparency is important. these government agencies have to have oversight. in fact, earlier this week i had a dinner with a group of fbi agents and one looked at me and said "you realize this is insane, right?" the idea that there was a deep state cabal out to get the president, president-elect at the time. you know that's insane? and i looked at him and said, well, that may be the case, but too bad for you, because in an agency with such power, you have to have oversight. and so, there will be these people that are looking at your work. you don't get to have these powers without someone looking into your work. the problem here is not that there's oversight, it's who is actually doing the review, the investigation. we're not talking about the inspector general, an independent entity which is already conducting its review into the fbi's work. we're talking about an attorney general who was already in the minds of some showed a
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willingness to run interference for the president, so that raises questions whether this will actually be an independent review. and secondly, we've seen a pattern with this president, using high-profile people to go after the intelligence community for political purposes. i'm talking specifically about representative devin nunes, and you know, essentially cherry-picking intelligence to paint the narrative. that causes a lot of heartburn, a lot of concerns, or at least it should for the american people, that this would be done independly. >> i thought of devin nunes when this news broke because he used that house rule to declassify selectively and did something we haven't seen in a long time with that. just to josh's point about giving an attorney general sweeping powers like this, that's questionable in an of -- >> of course it is. >> but what about giving this attorney general those sweeping powers? >> it's very questionable. first of all, let's look at the timing. this happened right after his little spat, you want to call it that, with nancy pelosi. so, this looks like it's payback for that. >> then you look at what's going
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to happen with now giving this increased power. they're going to go right into the fisa warrants. remember those fisa warrants? >> with carter page. >> with carter page, right. those didn't just come out of nothing. those were three judges independently giving those warrants again and again and again, over 90 days each time. so, this attorney general is going to run right into those fisa warrants and into the investigation, have to give that information over. that's going to backfire, i think, on president trump, because he doesn't want that information out there, because that's not going to help his cause. >> but remember -- >> so when -- >> then barr may not release that. >> there you go! so, when barr doesn't release that, which i don't think he will, when barr instead comes up with a little memo that sort of white-washes that, play the chess game a little bit further
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down. that then could become for the democrats one more issue of obstruction of justice. it could be -- >> you see it playing out this way. we'll see what happens, but i take your -- >> -- to backfire. >> warning. two, though, is the fisa warrants being renewed by the three judges 90 days, you have to do a lot to get them. and it wasn't just those judges who say, yes, this is legitimate, we need to be doing our intel work -- bill barr might call it spying -- but our intel work to get to the bottom of american democracy under attack here. james baker, who is the former fbi general counsel at the time -- you know, he's spoken out since subsequently, publicly defending that move, and you know, that's rare for him to come out and do that. he said, "it would have been a dereliction of duty not to investigate this information." you know, is he right? should the feds have looked the other way? >> well, i think baker is right. and i actually know jim baker very well. i worked with him when i was in
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the fbi, and his point is i think what many people inside the justice department believe, and that is, this is an agency that was staring at a set of facts, and their job, again, is to protect the united states from foreign intelligence threats. and when they saw all this smoke, they opened an investigation to get to the bottom of it. and as you mentioned, there was oversight as it related to the surveillance tools, not only the 90-day renewal, but they had to go back to the fisa court and show what they found in order to keep these surveillance techniques going. and so, you had that oversight that was in place. one thing i'll say, and lis hit on it, which was spectacular when she talked about this potentially backfiring. again, if you're the president or you're house republicans, i think careful what you wish for here, because the more you get to the bottom of what the fbi was staring at, it's going to be that constant reminder that for the first time in known history, we had a campaign for president that was at least willing to accept help from a foreign adversary. and the more you review that, get to the bottom of it, find out what the fbi did, but they might be careful what they wish for, because there's going to be that constant reminder that this was different. you had people that didn't call the fbi when they saw an
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intelligence threat. they were happy to take meetings. >> that's right. >> yeah. it's a very interesting point. josh, thank you for the expertise. lis, so nice to have you. we do want to jump to the pentagon now with breaking news on the rising tension with iran. our pentagon correspondent barbara starr breaking this with her new reporting. what can you tell us this morning? >> reporter: good morning, poppy. cnn has learned that now president trump has given his thumbs up, his approval, to a pentagon plan to send additional forces and weapons to the persian gulf region to counter what the pentagon says is this rising aggression and threat from iran. what we are learning is officials are telling us the president, after meeting with the acting secretary of defense, patrick shanahan, late yesterday, gave the thumbs up. and what the pentagon wants to do is send additional patriot missile batteries and reconnaissance and intelligence aircraft. and what would that accomplish? well, these patriot missile batteries are to defend against iran's own ballistic missile and
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cruise missiles. they have a very significant inventory. they have thousands of those missiles, and there's a good deal of concern that in these rising tensions, iran could decide to enact some sort of attack against u.s. forces in the region. so, beef up the u.s. patriot missile defenses, put more intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance aircraft into that region so that they can conduct overhead surveillance and try and keep track of what iran might be up to. officials tell us they continue to see the rising threat from iran that the iranian military has increased its readiness in recent days and that there is still the chatter, the intercepted conversations the u.s. has with iranian officials, talking about attacking the u.s. to be clear, the u.s. has not publicly shown any of this classified intelligence to the american people. there is skepticism, but now the pentagon very much wanting to send additional resources and the president giving the thumbs
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up to be able to do that. poppy? >> look, it's really notable here, especially when you have an administration seemingly, publicly on different pages when it comes to the threat level from iran, from the president to national security adviser to the secretary of state, at least with their public comments. barbara, very important reporting. thank you. still to come, as the feud between the president and nancy pelosi, the house speaker, intensifies, allies of the president are spreading a doctored video of pelosi meant to demean her online. what is true, what is false? we'll set the record straight, ahead. plus, one of america's biggest allies about to see a change at the top. british prime minister theresa may announcing her resignation amid backlash over brexit. this could have major global implications. and several 2020 candidates hitting the campaign trail this weekend. will they face questions of impeachment? oh, you can bet they will, ahead. heading into retirement you want to follow your passions
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>> and then he had a press conference in the rose garden with all this sort of visuals that obviously were planned long before. and then he had a press conference in the rose garden with all this sort of visuals that obviously were planned long before. >> all right, see the difference? another carefully edited mash-up of pelosi making her appear to be stammering. that actually aired on fox business news. and it's a video that you see there on the president's twitter feed because he tweeted it, and it was pinned on the top of his twitter page overnight, just recently taken down. let's talk about this with our cnn reporter brian fong. good morning to you. so, obviously, youtube took that one video down. what are social media sites doing to stop this stuff? >> well, twitter right now isn't saying very much about what it's doing, but facebook told me this morning that they're demoting the video, making it less
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visible to users of its news feed, although it's not completely removing the video entirely from its platform. the reason, it says, is because the video doesn't technically violate its community standards. there's no rule that says that items posted to facebook must be true. and that's why facebook has not yet removed the video from the platform. >> that's a -- i mean, this is such a predicament. it is an example of the predicament they're in, right? that fake stuff that affects our democracies, it is really significant, can be posted, right? and how are they going to deal with this going forward? can you just explain how these videos even work, how it's possible to make these? >> sure. so, one of the things that digital forensics experts have highlighted in light of these videos is that it looks as though they've been slowed down to about 75% speed, making speaker pelosi's words seem like they're much more slurred than
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they really are, and then they compensate for other audio artifacts -- adjusting her pitch, the tone of her voice, to make it sound like her -- not like a slowed-down version of her voice. >> okay. brian fung, we appreciate it very much. so, that's how it happens in the tech response. let's talk about the politics of all this with jackie kucinich, washington bureau chief for "the daily beast." good morning to you. >> good morning, poppy. >> putting aside the fact that, like, these are fights our children would have, right? >> right, right. >> i mean, preschool, name-calling, et cetera. >> right. >> where does this go from here? the president now has a nickname for nancy pelosi. he's tweeting an edited video of her to make her look like she's stammering. now what? >> you know, this is really reminiscent of what we saw in 2016, what the president said about hillary clinton. remember she was unhinged, she was mentally unstable at one point. they said that she was dying,
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aided by some of his allies in the conservative media. so, we already know kind of where this goes and whether he'll do this again. this is going to continue. the real question is, is how democrats and nancy pelosi continue to react to it. i've talked to operatives, democrats and republicans, who weren't against trying to, you know, name-call your way out of a fight with president trump, because most politicians and most people for that matter have a bottom. they won't go to a certain level. and the president really doesn't. we saw this during the 2016 campaign, both during the primary and the general and it's not going to get any better going into the 2020 election. >> do you think, jackie, that this could backfire on the president by uniting democrats around nancy pelosi? i mean, you know, she's had to wrangle her caucus this week. >> yeah, i mean, i think it could. you know, one way to get democrats all on one page is
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attacking nancy pelosi, attacking the woman who's leading them. and especially in the way that the president is attacking her. again, doing a lot of the same things we saw to hillary clinton, another woman in a powerful position. so, it absolutely could backfire on the president, and you'd have a united front with democrats. that said, there is -- it also could resolve democrats to really push more to punish the president. >> you know, this is a president who rails consistently against real news and facts, calling them fake news. and in the same breath or, you know, twitter post with some, he posts fake news. i mean -- >> well, yeah. >> it's not new, but you know, it's the house speaker. >> yeah, but again, we're talking about someone that doesn't have a conventional set of values, i guess i could say,
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and doesn't care, doesn't care that that's slowed down, doesn't care that that fox business piece really just put together her pauses and misrepresented how she sounded during the totality of that press conference. and you know, i think this is just a preview, again, of what we're going to see in 2020, and it doesn't get any better from here. not only -- these videos are, you know, slowed down. i've heard other guests this morning talk about the presence of potentially deep-fake videos, which are more realistic, are, you know, it's actually the person in it, and you know, words that are not theirs are put in their mouths. so, there's a lot of fear out there about that and an expectation, frankly, that it's going to be used and it's going to happen at some point in the next year and a half. >> and what will the president's response be if this happens to him, right? if the table is turned here. >> right. >> jackie, thank you very much.
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all right, welcome back. it is a direct order from the president. attorney general bill barr can declassify any intelligence he
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chooses, and leaders in the u.s. intelligence community have to give him what he wants. and he oversees a third -- this is all while he's overseeing a third investigation now into the origins of the russia probe. with me to talk about this and more, congressman mike quigley, democrat of illinois, of course, who sits on the house intelligence committee. good morning, sir. adam schiff -- >> good morning. >> -- the chairman of your committee calls this dangerous and un-american, says it's weaponizing law enforcement against political enemies. do you agree with schiff or is that taking it too far? >> oh, i don't think you can take this too far. the special counsel called what the russians did a sweeping systematic assault on our democracy. i think when history looks back, the president's reaction to what the russians did is far worse. so far, it's been an assault on the independence and the integrity of law enforcement and the justice department. this is weaponizing them against
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its political enemies. this is what autocrats do, and it's extraordinarily dangerous, and if allowed to, would create a very dangerous precedent for the future. >> congressman, just to be clear on what you just said -- are you saying that what the president is doing now is, in your words, quote, far worse than what russia did to our democracy during the 2016 election? >> we can inoculate ourselves against what the russians did. we can educate the public. we can defend ourselves from cyber attacks. what i'm suggesting is a profound change in the ability, the integrity, the independence of the justice department and the intelligence community. that will have a longer-lasting impact than what the russians did. the russians did -- what did mike morell call it?
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the political equivalent of 9/11. absolutely! but presidents are allowed to use law enforcement to go after their political enemies, where does it end? that's a self-inflicted wound, real damage to our democracy. >> so, you are -- i mean, you are saying it is far worse? >> oh, absolutely. >> okay. we have to see how this plays out. you believe that it is politically motivated to go against political enemies. i hear you on that. let me ask you this, though. of course, there is the irony of the white house fighting to keep so much of the mueller report -- underlying evidence, testimony surrounding it from mcgahn, et cetera -- secret, hidden, right, and then pushing for full transparency on this front, on the origins of the russia probe. i get the irony, but i wonder, sir, if there is any risk to democrats in terms of at least optically pushing against this latest probe by barr into the
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origins of the russia investigation, transparency there, while pushing for it on the mueller report. what do you think? >> i think it's different things. how did all of this begin? the first notion that the president of the united states was going to question the intelligence community or his predecessor was -- it was a saturday morning some time ago, the president woke up, read something in "breitbart" and accused president obama of wiretapping trump tower. of course, there was no truth to this. and there was a long string, a litany of accusations, unfounded, unproven, by the president attacking his predecessor and how this investigation began. none of them have borne out. there have been investigations. my committee, the intelligence committee, is the oversight authority over the intelligence community. we would want to know if there were abuses. absolutely none have been found. so, this is yet another assault
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using the justice department, in reality, not just to go after an internal investigation, but to go after his political enemies. so, looking back from the big picture, russia attacked our democracy. chairman nunes at the time from the intelligence committee and the president of the united states locked arms and joined in the fight by attacking the fbi and the entire intelligence community, its own justice department. the assault continues. >> congressman, let me turn the page and talk about impeachment. you said earlier, you said this in february to "the new york times," that democrats need to be, in your words, quote, patient and practical about impeachment. and i'm wondering if there is anything that has changed in your stance since then? >> well, that was before we found out everything about manafort and cohen and the release of the redacted report. i think what we have to recall
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here is in the speaker's strategy follows the notion that we can count votes in the senate. and this indeed is a fight for the hearts and minds of the american public. simply impeaching the president on the house side isn't going to remove him. >> that's right. >> because they don't have the votes. so, you've got to appreciate, this could backfire. we've had two important victories this week in court, where the courts recognized a broad, sweeping authority of the house to investigate, especially when we're talking about an obstruction after the fact. but what we're talking about earlier -- to me, that moves the needle, and it goes from the president abusing his power in the manner of obstruction, the president of the united states assaulting and weaponizing the constitution using the law enforcement power he has. so, look, i think we need to continue to move along the path
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we have, and i think there will be continued victories in the court system. but the president of the united states, as he moves toward a more dangerous tack, risks putting the house in a position where it has absolutely no choice. >> okay. it sounds like you're not there yet, but you may be moved there. let me ask you, in the short amount of time we have left about something very important, i think, and that is the president just this week raised the possibility of easing restrictions on the chinese tech giant huawei as part of an attempt to get a trade deal with china, in the very same week that he called huawei very dangerous for american national security and the u.s. department of commerce put huawei on the trade black list. is that a good idea to go easier on huawei to get a trade deal with china? >> it shouldn't be part of a quid pro quo. china and its security threats and its cyber threats to the united states are very real. it is an existential threat to
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the united states security for a whole variety of reasons. that takes a broad-ranging, systematic approach to address the chinese assault. using it as a bargaining chip without getting to the core of the matter, the broad-ranging issues that we must address when it comes to telecommunication and even rail cars belittles it. this is something we need to focus on and not throw off as a one-time offer. >> okay, congressman mike quigley, i appreciate having you on, on all of this. thank you very much. >> happy holidays. >> you, too. all right. ahead for us, british prime minister theresa may says she is stepping down. the impact it will have on the u.s. and the uk relationship as the president heads there, next. we call it the mother standard of care.
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i have done everything i can to convince mps to back that deal. sadly, i have not been able to do so. i tried three times. i believe it was right to persevere, even when the odds against success seemed high, but it is now clear to me that it is in the best interests of the country for a new prime minister to lead that effort. >> that is british prime minister theresa may this morning announcing she's resigning after failing to deliver on brexit. let's go to my colleague, phil black, outside of 10 downing street in london with the latest. a lot of chatter about if this would happen.
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it has happened. but even with her leaving, the uk is still in the same predicament. >> reporter: yeah, very much so, poppy. the premiership of theresa may was brought undone by one issue -- brexit and her inability to come up with an agreement, withdrawal agreement that would see britain leave the eu, the european union, in a very easy, organized way. she's been trying to get something through parliament for years, and she's failed repeatedly. she'd run out of options, and her party had run out of patience. and so, that essentially said to her, time for her to go or we'll force you out. so, you heard there the prime minister speaking, talking about her attempts, her repeated attempts, but she also spoke very emotionally at the end. there was real pain in her voice as she spoke about what an honor it had been to be prime minister, the honor of her life, she said, and how much she loves the country. this is not how she would have wanted her premiership to end, but it is how it is ending. and so, now it means this
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country must move on. first there has to be the choice of a new leader of the conservative party, a new prime minister. that process will begin from june 7th. so, what it means, crucially, is that theresa may remains prime minister through president trump's state visit here in early june. we'll be looking to see while president trump is here if he expresses any view on who he hopes could succeed theresa may, because in the past, he has expressed some preference, some admiration for boris johnson, the former foreign secretary who resigned from the cabinet over brexit and who has since been a major thorn in theresa may's side and the man who really is the overwhelming favorite at this stage to replace her. today, boris johnson has said that he thought theresa may resigned with dignity and he now hopes the country can come together to get through all of the uncertainty and deliver brexit. but all of those problems will still be waiting here for whoever replaces theresa may as the next prime minister, poppy.
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>> they certainly will. and you could hear that pain in her voice with this announcement. she has made history as only the second female prime minister, of course, following margaret thatcher. thank you very much, phil black. all right, so, a little bit of funco-anchor, jim sciutto, w from morning to late-night tv last night. he was on "colbert"! this is so cool. stephen colbert's show to talk about his new book "the shadow war." here's a clip. >> who is shadowier -- >> russia or china? >> russia or china? who's been more aggressive? >> russia is more aggressive today. russia's sort of like your drunk friend at the party, right? you know they're dangerous -- >> i think literally your drunk friend from the party. >> they are your drunk friend. you know they're dangerous when they walk into the room. china is more like the quiet one in the background but is more dangerous because they're kind of subtly evil, but equally vicious. i've talked to the former head of counter intel for the fbi, a former cop, and he talks about it, no one's more vicious than the chinese.
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all right. ads congress breaks many runs for president in 2020 are hitting the campaign trail hard starting today. they kick off a multi-day tour in a relatively important little state, iowa. i'm completely kidding. a completely important state. they'll stop in the state tomorrow. meantime a new poll shows surging favorable for female candidates. with me is our political reporter and cnn correspondent. good morning to you both. arlette, good morning to you both. let's talk about the female numbers that are up. women, warren, up 9%.
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harris up eight points. klobuchar up 5 points. do we know why? >> it might be early. but it's certainly a trend that could continue especially as voters get to know these candidates a little bit more. elizabeth warren is enjoying very high favorability numbers among the democratic party. she's rolled out these very specific policy proposals that have different yalted herself from others in the field. camela harris has been one of those who's had to recalibrate her campaign since biden entered the race, but we're also entering the race where the democratic primary field is set barring any type of late earn interest i from someone like stacey abrams, and voters can now really look at these candidates and drill in on their records and their policy proposals and what they're going to be putting forth, and one
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thing we have to remember is we're a little over eight months away from the iowa caucuses. so so much can change, but these are certainly welcome figures for these female candidates. >> sure. it matters a ton. south bend, indiana, pete bud slamming the president for not serving. listen to this. >> i have a pretty dim view of his decision to use his privileged status to fake a disability in order to avoid serving in the vietnam. >> you believe he faked a disability. >> do you believe he has a disability? >> yeah. at least not that one. >> he went on to say i'm not making light of disabilities but
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i believe he faked this one. it's interesting how he's able to use his service to this country to make these points. >> right. when i heard that, you know, one thing i thought about was a conversation i had in south carolina with we'll categorize him as a disillusioned republican who was attending a beto o'rourke event and when i asked him what he was using for, he said, i want anyone be trump and when i asked him why he said i don't like what appears to be disregard for servicemen and women and he specifically pointed to towards president trump has used to describe late senator mccain. so when you hear beauttigieg talking about it. you want someone who has that veteran experience. he's young, 37, but he's letting people know, look, i served in
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afghanistan, i'm someone who has that on my resume and he's hoping, i think, that's what his actions show, that it really resonates with those voters. >> and when it comes to experiencing, a lot of experience in congress and in the white house, arlette, you cover joe biden, in the wake of the president's ongoing battle -- not really in the wake but in the battle with house speaker nancy pelosi, we saw joe biden tweet a video from his philadelphia campaign rally with the caption, quote, i know how to make government work not because i've talked or tweeted about it but because i've done it. he is trying to say experience is everything. >> that's right. i mean that is at the core of joe biden's argument. he was vice president. he's as close as you can get to actually being president more than any other candidate and he has pointed to his years not just in the white house but also in the senate being able to bridge some of those divides
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that exist between the two parties. now, there's some in the democratic party who argue that this, you know, unity call will always work with republicans is not what they need, biden acknowledges there are times su need to go toe to toe. this all plays into biden's argument that he can bring stability to the country, presenting a contrast to president trump. >> arlette, thank you very much. leila, good to have you both. have a good, i hope, long holiday weekend. enjoy it. minutes if now, president trump leaves the white house for a major meeting with world leaders. and the question right now is will he stop and answer reporters' questions on the way to "marine one" about giving the attorney general new and sweeping powers to investigate the investigators in the origins of the russia probe. we're on it. the russells travel to a different swim meet every saturday.
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hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. thanks so much for joining me. if wednesday was a coverup and i don't do coverups and thursday was then he needs an intervention and she's crazy, remember this? >> the president has a bag of tricks and the white house has a bag of tricks that they save for certain occasions. >> crazy nannancy. i'll tell you what. i've been watching her an watching her for a long time. she's not the same person. she is lost it. >> ano

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