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happening now, breakig news. not exonerated. that's robert mueller's message about his investigation to president as the special counsel speaks out for the first time in two years. is that his last word or will he testify before congress? all options. top democrats are keeping the door open to impeachment as the drum beat within the party grows lou louder after hearing from mueller. did the special counsel leave new clues for congressional investigators to follow. let's do it. we're told that's the president's attitude toward impeachment. mr. trump is spoiling for a fight even as he declares he's innocent and mueller's case is closed. rising waters. c nrk cnn is on the scene of devastating flooding after two straight weeks of violent weather across the united
states. new storms are brewing. new tornadoes are feared and nearly 40 million americans may be in danger. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room."s on robert mueller ending his silence and begin impeachment reedings against president trump. the special counsel stressing he did not and could not exonerate the president as he delivered careful remarks over at the justice department. he said charging president trump was not an option because of department of justice policy against prosecuting a sitting president. congress does have options and tonight top democrats who say they are convinced the president committed crimes, they are
vowing to hold him accountable as impeachment talk grows louder, nancy pelosi says nothing is off the table. the white house says it's ready for that possibility while insisting mr. trump has been cleared and it's time to move on. i'll get reaction from house oversight committee and our correspondents and analysts are standing by. let's go to sarah murray. robert mueller is closing the door. is he closing the door, obviously, on his role as special counsel. >> that's right. it was robert mueller's last day as special counsel and we heard from him the first time and the last time on this investigation. he spoke for ten minutes but made one thing clear, he was not exonerating president trump. >> today special counsel robert mueller chose his words carefully. >> i'm speaking out today because our investigation is complete. >> reporter: breaking his silence on the investigation after two years to clearly say
he did not clear president trump of obstructing justice. >> if we had confidence the president did not commit a crime, we would have said so. >> reporter: mueller did not declare the president was innocen innocent, in the more than 400 page report or in front of cameras. >> we would not reach a determination one way or the other about whether the president committed a crime. >> reporter: mueller explained he never had the power to make that decision due to department of justice regulations. >> a president cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office. that is unconstitutional. charging the president with crime was therefore not an option we could consider. >> reporter: mueller's own words a sharp contrast to william barr's earlier suggestion that the justice department office of legal counsel or olc guidelines did not weigh heavily on mueller's decision. >> we specifically asked him
about the olc opinion and whether or not he was taking the position that he would have found a crime but for the existence of the olc opinion and he made it very clear, several time, that was not his position. >> reporter: today mueller appeared to point the obstruction issue to congress. ramping up the pressure on capitol hill for impeachment. >> the opinion says the constitution requires a process other than the criminal justice system to formally accuse a sitting president of wrong doing. >> reporter: still mueller made clear he did not want to be part of that process by testifying before congress. >> i hope and expect this to be the only time that i will speak to you in this manner. we chose those words carefully and the work speaks for itself. the report is my testimony. >> reporter: after two years of attacks from president trump. >> i knew how illegal this whole thing was. it was a scam. >> reporter: mueller defended his investigation and team
saying the obstruction probe was paramount. >> when a subject of an investigation obstructs that investigation or lying to investigators, at strikes at the core of the government's effort to find the truth and hold wrongdoers accountable. >> reporter: despite trump's constant refrain. >> i call it the russian hoax. >> it's a total witch hunt. >> reporter: they found evidence that russia did influence the election to try to benefit trump and hurt hillary clinton. >> there were multiple efforts to interfere in our election. that allegation deserves the attention of every american. >> reporter: while mueller did not charge the trump coampaign for conspireing with russians, he did not say there was no evidence. only. >> there was insuffer evidence -- insufficient evidence to charge a broader conspiracy. >> reporter: he thanked the members of his team, for their hard work, fairness.
they have all been under plenty of attacks from the president over the last two yoeears. >> they have. i want to talk about mueller citing the justice department opinion that says this. the constitution requires a process other than the criminl justice system to formally accusing the sitting president of wrongdoing. that's the opinion of the justice department office of legal counsel. is that a clear signal that mueller is now leaving the ball in congress' court? >> i think today he made clear that's exactly what he was doing. i think a lot of us were left searching when we read the mueller report, as to what exactly was his intent. that's a reason why members of congress have been asking for him to come and do a public system. today it made clear that, looking this is something that i can't do. i'm guided by the office of legal counsel legal opinion which i'm bound by as a prosecutor but i can't even con
template this because can't accuse the president of anything when we can't charge him with a crime. he can't defend himself. i think what he's sighing you could read what he said today as a sign he's saying congress. you guy vs the power to do this if you choose to. >> jim, he couldn't bring charges against the sitting president of the united states, mueller did talk about obtaining documents and preserving evidence while it's fresh in people's minds. could the president find himself in legal trouble after he leaves office? >> absolutely. there's no question. i think as evan said, mueller leading the conversation in the direction of congress handling this before then or at least making it clear there's a process under the constitution for addressing this in way that the special counsel could not. we should emphasize that here is a special counsel who has not
spoken and using his first public comments to make one point very clear. one, the attorney general is not correct when he says that obstruction of justice was not justified or there's no evidence but the special counsel made the decision based on the basis of department of justice policy not to indict a sitting president. that's one thing. i think, it's not a constitutional crisis but this is third time now the special counsel, twice by letter, which we already reported on but now in public comments has contradicted the sitting attorney general on the findings of the report to make clear, also contradicting the president to make it was not a no obstruction conclusion but a conclusion he would not pursue an indictment on obstruction of justice because of the policy. it's not the evidence that led him to that direction but the policy that led him in that direction. he uses those rare public comments to make it clear that barr was not right when he p
portrayed the findings. mueller said this. >> the first volume details numerous efforts numerating from russia to influence the election. this volume including a discussion of the trump campaigns response to this activity as well as our conclusion that there was insufficient evidence to charge a broader conspiracy. s >> he uses the phrase insufficient evidence as opposed to no evidence. >> that's right. if you read volume one, there's a reason for that. there's a number of instances where members of trump's orbit are approached with offers of information and help and don't say no. they don't turn around and call the fbi and say there's something weird going on. they appear open to accepting it. there's a difference between a willingness to except the case and a prosecution that would hold up in court.
there wasn't enough evidence to make a case. i think he sort of laying out, there were reasons that this investigation started. there were legitimate contacts that we needed to look into. russia was trying to interfere in our election. that's important when bill barr is deciding the look back at the origins to make sure it was done by the book. >> jim, new and very important book, the shadow work. you take readers inside russia's election interference here in the united states and you heard mueller today make that point over and over and over again that the russians conspired to try to influence the 2016 presidential election. he said it should be of great concern to all americans. do you think president trump will now fully except that conclusion? >> no. clearly the president feels that accepting that conclusion undermines his victory in 2016. here is a special counsel who has not spoken for two years and using a big portion of his comments to make this point. russia interfered. he makes it clear that russia
interfered to damage the chances of one political candidate. that being hillary clinton. that this kind of interference continues. that americans, all americans should be aware of it. i think in those comments it's not just that you and i should be aware of it as americans and american voters but that american leaders have to acknowledge that this is a genuine threat. here is a special counsel who delved into this for two years and found enormous efforts of russian interference. there's no question what russia did here. listen, i write a lot about this in the book. the evidence is deep and far and wide and it is also deep and far and wide clear that russia continue this in 2018 and will continue again in 2020. robert mueller sounding the clarion call. will the president listen?
no. >> he makes that point very clear. everybody stand by. the white house press secretary is insisting that the president has been exonerated even after robert mueller made it very clear that he wasn't exonerating. let's go to our chief white house correspondent jim accoost. why is the take away sort of confusing the way it is? >> reporter: i think they are sticking to those talking points about the white house is back on its heels after the comments from the russia investigation. one source expressed frustration that mueller seemed to leave the door open that perhaps the president did commit crimes. the source said that was a quote gratuitous remark in mueller. the white house press secretary say they are prepared for house democrats if they begin impeachment proceedings. with special counsel robert mueller's stunning comments on the russia investigation sparking new calls for
impeachment, the white house message of the day was bring it on. >> i'm saying we're always prepared and we're going to move forward doing what we think is important and focus on things that help people. >> reporter: president pickup truck h-- put his own spin sayig there was insufficient evidence. in our country the person is innocent. the case is closed. his use of insufficient evidence prompted questions about whether the president was doing legal hair splitting. >> we have been saying the same thing for two years before the mueller investigation had to start. >> reporter: aides are declaring he's been exonerated but that's not what mueller said. he pointed to justice department policy laid out in an office of legal counsel memo that bars the indictment of a sitting president. >> it does beg the question if donald trump were not the president, could he be charged with crime. what do you say? >> i say what we have said is that they were looking at whether or not there was
collusion. that would be tcrime committed. all of those things have been determined to not have taken place. collusion, conspiracy, obstruction and again we consider this very much to be case closed. >> reporter: democrats are crying foul. >> but for that memo, i believe a fair inference from what we heard is there would have been indictments returns. >> reporter: the president's legal team says it's clear mueller wants to move on as well. >> it appears the special counsel doesn't want to testify. i can imagine why he doesn't. the irregularities from this investigation are numerous. >> reporter: press secretary sarah sanders is snapping back at any notion mr. trump hasn't done enough to speak out. >> he isn't reluctant to say it. he said there was interference and now we are taking steps. you constantly want to attack this president. >> reporter: the kremlin need only consider mr. trump's performance at a summit in
helsinki. >> they said they think it's russia. i have president putin. he just said it's not russia. i will say this, i don't see any reason why it would be. >> reporter: a senior republican official said most in the party are satisfied with mueller's comments but noted the increase speaker on nancy pelosi from inside her own party to begin an impeachment process. one house democrat confided earlier the pressure is building inside pelosi's caucus to get moving on impeachment as this house democrat put it, the party is growing more restless for impeachment. >> certainly is. all right jim acosta. many democrats still want to hear from robert mueller. let's go to our congressional correspondent. despite what mueller said today about not testifying, the house speaker nancy pelosi tonight says she should. >> reporter: that's right she did. she said she thinks it could still be yuuseful and there are
many areas are robert mueller needs to clarify things and following his public comments she is finding herself in this position that she's been in before facing an increasing and growing amount of pressure from members of her own caucus to open up impeachment proceedings. today she seemed to be speaking to this group of people. a group that's small of only about 38 democrats. a group that's vocal and has a very large megaphone including those calls for impeachment from 2020 candidates today. speaker pelosi making it clear she will not be swayed by this group of people. she will continue on her strategy for impeachment. that being very deliberate. staying the course and to focus on investigations. >> nothing is off the table. we do want to make sure a compelling case, such an ironclad case that even the
republicans senate which at the time seems to be not an objective jury will be convinced of the path that we have to take as a country. >> all options are on the table and nothing should be ruled out. >> reporter: there jerry nadler made clear yet again he's in line with house leadership and strategy for impeachment in line with what pelosi said earlier today. nadler sidestepped the question if he would subpoena robert mueller to testify. he previously said he would do so. today he said mueller has told us a lot of what we need to hear today. >> all right. thank you. >> after two years we heard from
robert mueller. do you believe mueller would have charged president trump with obstruction of justice, if not for the current guidelines over at the department of justice against indicting a sitting president? >> only mueller believes there was significant misconduct. he don't considering the legal issue because the constitution is clear you can't indict a sitting president. he didn't want to have that judgment. he exercised great restraint. what was clear for mueller's remarks is the extraordinary misconduct this president has engaged in and the need for congress to do something to hold him accountable. >> do you believe the attorney general, william barr, misrepresented all of this to the american people when he made his public statements a bt tbou mueller report? >> i do. if he wanted to be honest, he would have given the exact statement that bob mueller made. simple. to the point saying this is for congress to decide and there was no conclusion reached.
the fact that bill barr had to write a long memo showed the misrepresentation in his presentation was very, very different than what mueller's presentation was. >> you heard mueller say today he doesn't want to testify before congress. if he does, he won't go beyond what's written in his 448-page report. should house democrats issue a subpoena for his testimony? >> yes they should. i have great respect for bob mueller, but he needs to testify in front of congress for two reasons. one, we have to understand more the counter intelligence operation if he needs to do that behind closed doors so we can deal with the threat he's alerting the american people of. the russians may interfere again in our 2020 election. we really need to understand that and explore that. second, i think the country needs to tune in to what he found and if he testifies and even if he reads parts of the report to a committee that will get the attention of the american people and help us
build the case. i'm for subpoenaing him. >> mueller moted that investigations of sitting presidents are permitted to preserve evidence while memories are fresh and documents available. do you believe he was preserving that evidence of those documents for congress to open formally an impeachment inquiry? >> i believe he was preserving it to open up any inquiry when the president leaves office. the constitution says you can't go after the president when he's in office because the president has many duties. there's nothing to say the president may not face consequences when he leaves office. that's my sense of what mueller meant. i also think he wants congress to do something. one thing we can do decisively is have a censure resolution that could get the votes in the house and the senate and could pass. there's only one president, andrew jackson that's ever been censured. that will be a big statement that what the president did was
wrong. >> what would that achieve? i know you're on the same page in terms of continuing to investigate the president. this censure motion that you would like to see instead of opening formal impeachment proceedings, explain why that would be a better option when impeachment would give congress more power to investigate and call witnesses? >> i think we have to continue to investigate but the challenge of launching an impeachment inquiry now is if the house did go down the road and impeach, it may send the wrong precedent and wrong message the president would go around saying he's been acquitted. if they say the president committed acts that violated the law and he has to be held accountable, that would set a precedent that future presidents wouldn't engage in that kind of conduct again and only one president has ever had a censure resolution. when he won re-election he
worked to try to get it reversed. it's a big stain on the president. >> all right. thanks so much for joining us. just ahead, former u.s. attorney standing by live. there you see him. he will help us break down what robert mueller said today. we're also going to have a full team of legal and political expe exper experts. get ready. r? aww, this is dope. this thing is beautiful. i love the lights. oh man, it's got a mean face on it. it looks like a piece of candy. look at the interior. this is nice. this is my sexy mom car. i would feel like a cool dad. it's just really chic. i love this thing. it's gorgeous. i would pull up in this in a heartbeat. i want one of these. that is sharp. the all-new chevy blazer. speaks for itself. i don't know who they got to design this but give them a cookie and a star. you get more than yourfree shipping.ir, you get everything you need for your home at a great price,
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even if the charge is kept under seal and hidden from public view, that too is prohibited. the special counsel's office is part of the department of justice and by regulation it was bound by that department policy. charging the president with a crime was therefore not an option we could consider. after that investigation, if we had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so. we did not however make a determination as to whether the president did commit a crime. >> mueller ruled out criminal charges or even a sealed indictment right off the bat. what does that tell you? >> actually, i don't know if that's so. i've been thinking about this for a while now. i don't know that the office of special counsel made the determination on day one that given the olc legal opinion and interpretation of the constitution that you can't
charge a sitting president. it seems like it would be likely. it seems like based on the report and the statement he made today about mueller to be sort of minimalist about these things as i've been saying on your program and everywhere else for the last long time. what's interesting is he did decide right of the bat part of the mandate was to investigate obstruction and bring a charge against the president. a lot of experts came on your show and other places, i didn't agree with them. bob mueller may well indict the president. it would have been arguably better than if you made that determination early on for people to understand that their expectations it might have been
better know the answer to that. obviously if he did make -- i think part of the reason you do that is to provide evidence for other people for not bound by that opinion. >> other people meaning the congress, right? >> a lot of other people. potentially other people who might be able to bring a prosecution after the president leaves office. >> the attorney general bill barr testified that mueller quote emphatically was not saying that but for the olc office of legal counsel opinion, he would have filed obstruction. did the attorney general misrepresent the special counsel? >> i don't know if that's the right verb. clearly the attorney general in various statements, including that one. sought to leave some impression that wasn't what bob mueller thought. we know that from the back and forth letters from bob mueller and the attorney general. why it's technically maybe not a
full on misrepresentation is that bob mueller has been so careful on this idea that he can't say if the president committed a crime or not whether there was an olc opinion that said he could be charged or not. bob mueller does not want to say whatever he thinks and whatever evidence is laid out. he doesn't want to say the president could be charged. he just won't say that. there's some technical way in which i guess bill barr is not in a full on lie but the impression he was giving was one different than bob mueller intended be. >> mueller said he hopes this will be the only time he speaks publicly on his report. that if he has to testify before congress, he won't go beyond what's written in his 448-page report. are there more questions he should address? >> yeah. i don't blame him for hoping that. god forbid anyone should hope to testify in front of congress especially given some of the circus like speiatmosphere when
people come to testify. bob mueller has been mute for the last two years except for today. he was the fbi director for 12 years. he spoke. he would have work that he put forward that speaks for itself. i've stood with him at press conferences and not withstanding the work speaks for itself. he understood in cases of high consequence and where people cared, there was some value in explaining things to the public and answering questions from the press. not everything can be fully explanatory based on words alone. he's testified in front of congress. he's pretty good at it. he may not like it. he may not like to be in a position to look like he's politicizing it. there's lots of things including how to protect ourself from attack in the future and how he thought the special counsel process worked. congress has a role to figure
out if this process was good. it's in the heart land of their duty and obligation to figure out how it is. you go forward in the future, how you investigate the president and what the special counsel's powers should be. i would like to hear the special counsel not just in a formal remark at the end of his statement defending his team and the integrity of the people who worked in the special counsel's office but i'd like to see him in reaction to people making accusations that have flown from the president's mouth and other people. bob mueller with his integrity and track record and with his gravitas and explain why he thinks his team did the right thing. a lot of people hear an accusation and because there's a broad statement defending the office, there's value having him say those things in congress to an audience of millions. >> he did say his team acted with the highest integrity. thank you very, very much.
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correspondents and analysts. mueller today as opposed to what we heard from the attorney general bill barr a few weeks ago. listen to this. >> we specifically asked him about the olc opinion and whether or not he was taking the position that he would have found a crime but for the existence of the olc opinion. he made it very clear several times that was not his position. >> under long standing department policy, a president cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office. charging the president with a crime was therefore not an option we could consider. >> what do you think of that jeffrey? >> well, there are two possibilities. they were talking about the investigation. mueller just sort of made up a story about why he didn't charge him and now he's telling truth
about his reasons for not going forward with an indictment. the other possibility is that barr is misleading the country and there's a lot to support that hypothesis because barr has misled the country repeatedly about mueller's report. at each stage in the process wh when barr had the opportunity to speak publicly about a subject the country doesn't know about, he's been refuted by facts that came out later. i think this is another example. >> it's very interesting. sus susan, mueller made clieear he couldn't consider criminal charges. he couldn't consider a sealed indictment. how much did the office of legal counsel opinion over at the justice department guide him in making these conclusions? >> his decisions were entirely based on this olc memo. that from the out set they couldn't indict the president and by his interpretation they couldn't accuse the president of
a crime. very difficult to square that with bill barr's statement on the subject. that said, the report itself is relatively clear about whether robert mueller would have ended up had he decided to render that traditional prosecutorial judgment. he said if he could have exonerated the president, he would have and he didn't do so. he lays out multiple elements in which everything is met. one thing he kept saying over and over was read the report. the report is my testimony. it's all there. there's another part of that olc memo that robert mueller made a point of pointing to and saying it governed his thinking. that's the line in the olc opinion that says there's an alt terntive constitutional remedy. that's the remedy of impeachment. >> the reality we didn't have the internet the last time during nixon.
people could read some things during the clinton years. it's completely accessible. all 448 pages, is that right? >> people will not going to read it. i read it. you read it. we all read it. when i say people, i mean public opinion which is what nancy pelosi clearly feels that she needs more of to move forward and what she can get if you can't get people to actually read the entire report is a headline through testimony which is why jerry nadler had tried to get mueller to testify. he made very clear today he didn't want to do that and i thought it was fascinating that the judiciasew disjudiciary cha bite at all on the notion of a subpoena. to me it sounded more like he is siding with mueller on the notion he doesn't want to push him.
>> robert de niro has written as opinion piece. in your news conference you said your investigation works speaks for itself. it may speak to lawyers and lawmakers who have the patience to read through the more than 400 pages of carefully chosen words and conclusions. with all due respect as good a read as it is, you're no stephen king. does he have a point? >> he definitely has a point. i think he's looking at what special counsel mueller said this morning and saying, look, yes, what you presented to the american public is a very full and detailed report, minus redactions but that to dana's point, the average american who is busy taking kids to soccer practice, going to work, doing other things, doesn't have time to sit down and savor the report like some of us do, for us it's our job. what's less important is whether you provide new information but
you underscore and underline different things in the report for the american people which is that i think democrats in the house are going to drill down on obstruction now for the reason that in weeks with congressman amash and now with mueller today, amash basically said that attorney general barr deliberately misled the american people and today mueller all but said his findings were mischaracterized. >> listen to this, i want to play a clip for you. president kept calling it a witch hunt, hoax, 18 angry democrats. listen to what mueller said today because i think he was talking to the president. >> i want to thank the attorneys, the fbi agents, the analysts, the professional staff who helped us conduct this investigation in fair and independent manner.
these individuals who spent nearly two years with the special counsel's office were of the highest integrity. >> that's a strong statement. >> the power of today wasn't about any revelations. there wasn't anything new he said that wasn't in the report. the power was hearing him saying and retaking the narrative away from the attorney general, away from the president saying read the report. read the report, read the report. we have been waiting for this from two years. it didn't satisfy a lot of people but it did have an impact because you hear him say it and that has a certain weight. >> can i just add one point. this notion that mueller doesn't want to testify, you know what, too bad. most witnesses don't want to testify in front of congress. it's a generally unpleasant experience, but the point is congress needs the information and it's different when you hear
a person to say something that to invite the public the read 448 single space pages. i don't think congress has anything to apologize for from wanting to hear from him and why jerry nadler appears to be throwing in the town seems business v bizarre to me. >> i think congress does need to hear from robert mueller. the robert doesn't fully speak to it. it would be oo mistaa mistake t him as he's the only person to tell the story. the witness, you want the people who were -- >> they've all said no. >> that's the way you will tell the story. they will have to fight the subpoena fights. that is why having an impeachment inquiry which will strengthen the house's legal case in compelling people to testify, that will be the criminal element. >> we'll have a lot more. there's more breaking news. we're following tornadoes and flooding threatening millions of americans right now. fit me foundation from maybelline new york.
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there's more breaking news this hour. millions of americans facing more tornadoes and historic flooding as an extraordinary bout of severe weather across the united states begins a third week. cnn is near tulsa, oklahoma. i understand the mayor there is warning residents to prepare for a worst case scenario.
>> reporter: that is the warning that has gone out. it all really focuses on the keystone dam that you see behind me. take a closer look at the flood gates there. coming out of that dam is three olympic size pools of water every second. that's what is causing much of the flooding in eastern oklahoma and arkansas. >> oh, my god. >> reporter: tonight nearly 40 million people are at risk for more severe weather after two straight weeks of tornadoes and damaging storms have hammered the united states midwest and as far east as pennsylvania and new jersey. in the last 30 day, more than 500 tornadoes have been reported across the country. in kansas, residents are cleaning up after tornadoes struck the town of linwood late tuesday destroying dozens of homes on the outskirts of town. the city's mayor tells us the homes are all gone.
a resident described to knbc, the terrifying scene as he rode >> i could hear it was over us. and i saw my bedroom just leave. it was gone. we were underneath the one part of the house that didn't get taken. we knew it was coming. i just didn't -- i just hoped it wouldn't come right me. it did. i feel lucky i'm alive. >> a tornado in lawrence, kansas, injured at least 15 in according to the douglas county health dew point even in the northeast an area not acustomed to tornadoed were hit tuesday. the national weather service confirmed a tornado in burke's county, in eastern pennsylvania. nobody injured. >> we've been so blessed. it's -- when you drive around and see the destruction, you really realize how lucky we are that nobody was hurt. >> a band of severe weather
damaged a new jersey high school while an event was going on in the gym nays yum. nobody injured. one local resident said it was over in a a flash. >> it looked like something out of a movie. i looked out the back of the house. and trees coming down. i must have seen three fall within five seconds. it happened within 30 seconds to a minute. >> here in oklahoma, historic flooding. more rain lass fallen on parts of the stap already overwhelmed it the flood flood waters and the arkansas river is cresting. >> and wolf it has been raining much of the day in oklahoma. but the good news is the national weather service reports that in most areas they got about 1 to 3 inches of rain. low enough to give the army corps of engineers a chance to close the flood gates over the next 24 hours and the flood waters a chance it to recede down dra draem. >> let's hope. thank you very much. we have more on the breaking news right after this.
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security prochgsle concerned about what could happen if someone plans an attack at mar-a-lago. a intrusion so simple that it raises questions about how safe president trump is at his winter white house. mark lind blob 18 years old a college freshman pleaded guilty tuesday to illegally sneaking into trump's mar-a-lago estate in florida, the day after thanksgiving last year. >> in 18-year-old has done us a big service. he shows how easy to get into the mar-a-lago and show what is a lousy job the secret service is doing. they had plenty of warnings and did nothing. >> the details from court filings are stunning. while the president and first lady were at the estate lind blom entered through a tunnel which allowed club guests to go from the beach to the restricted club grounds by walking under the main road a 1 a. the prosecutors say he was screened for weapons at some point but not stopped from entering the property even know
not allowed to be there. more lawrence lamer wrote a new book on mar-a-lago. he lived in palm beach more than 20 years and says he has been on the estate several times while trump is there. he is not surprised lind blom got in. >> you come to the front gate, turn left. the tunnel entrance is here. takes you under a 1 a and get out here. there you are inside mar-a-lago. >> lind blom staying with family nearby reportedly walked around the estate for bo 20 minutes before secret service agents noticed him acting strangely. it's not the oem time someone got into the club without authorization. just a few months after lind blom's breach a chinese citizen named yu, xinyue jang entered a restricted zone while the president was not there. prosecutors say she lied her way security and kaupt with a thumb drive, laptop, external hard drive and cell phones. experts say these cases illustrate the vulnerabilities
in the properties trump visits. golf clubs. trump tower, hotels and mar-a-lago. all of which also indicator to the residents and guests. >> a lot of people refer to mar-a-lago as the winter white house. it's not the white house. it's not a government facility. it's a private commercial entity just like any other place the president goes, you know, on a temporary basis. >> right. >> that's different from other presidential retreats like camp david or the summer cottages the obamas, bushes and clintons would visit when only the president and his family were there. mark lind blom reportedly told the judge he wanted to see if he could get into marshaling and he meant no harm. lamer believes the president should stay away from mar-a-lago while in office. >> look, it's a disaster waiting to happen. the family quarters are just off a corridor that's all. people are walking around there. it's crazy. >> the secret service stresses the teenager did not come into contact with the president because of the leader security system. but has or will security be
tightened around that gate to the beach or that tunnel to the estate? the secret service did not get back to us on that. a u.s. attorney in palm beach was quoted as saying of the breach, it wouldn't happen today. wolf. >> brian nangs very much today. brian todd reporting to viewers. thanks for watching. erin burnett outfront starts right now. outfront next robert mueller breaks his silence saying president trump has not been cleared of committing a crime. the next move is up to congress. plus robert mueller says he will not testify. so what will democrats do? and growing pressure on nancy pelosi to move forward toward impeachment. can she stop the momentum? let's go outfront. >> and good evening. i'm erin burnett. outfront mueller speaks out for the first time on his last day as special counsel. and here is what bob mueller wanted every single american to know. >> if we had had confidence that the president clearly d