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pilots, they're saying what would be retraining for? it is stuff we already do. >> drew griffin. thank you. it is it for me. "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. hi, there. it is friday. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. just an hour to go in the trading day, stocks are falling after president trump upped the ante on threatening tariffs with one of the biggest -- trading partners with the united states, mexico. he said if mexico doesn't stop the flow of migrants the u.s. will slap a 5% tariff on all imports next month. and that number will increase 5% every month until it hits a maximum tariff at 25% in october. top mexican officials swiftly condemned the move. the foreign minister who is on his way to washington said it makes zero economic sense.
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while adding that stopping central american migrants is not mexico's job. and mexico president wrote an open letter to president trump and i'll read part of it. quote, social problems are not resolved with tariffs or coercive measures. the statute of liberty is not an empty symbol. and with all due respect and you have the sovereign right to express it, your slogan america first is a fallacy. on capitol hill republican lawmakers are voicing concern about the action and the president's ability to exercise it. at the white house press secretary sarah sanders pushed back on all of this criticism. >> congress should actually fix the laws and we wouldn't have this problem. mexico should engage with us and we wouldn't have to take any additional steps. but at the same time, the number one duty that the president of the united states has it national security and to protect americans. it is a humanitarian and national security crisis and it has to be dealt with. unfortunately the president is the only one that is actually stepping up and putting forward
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things to stop it. >> that is the white house in a blunt statement, volkswagen, the world's largest carmaker is leaving no doubt about the impact. telling cnn, quote, we believe that tariffs of this kind are attacks on the u.s. consumer and will result in higher prices and also threaten job growth. so let's start with alison kosik, our cnn business correspondent at the new york stock ex change and how are they faring. >> the automakers down from 3% to 5% and as far as the overall market, two hours before the closing dow and the dow is on track to close below 25,000 for the first time in four months. one trader telling me he thinks it is a drafter, president trump's threat to impose a 5% tariff on all goods coming from mexico. why? because it introduces yet another layer of uncertainty in the financial markets and it messes with the overall economy.
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it creates an even bigger downward pressure. as i said, the automaker getting hit head on because all of our auto manufacturers here in the u.s. depend on mexican auto parts to build trucks and cars. deutsche bank thinks if the tariffs go into effect it could add $10 billion in costs just to the auto industry. and guess who will wind up paying all of that? the consumer looking to buy those cars and trucks. and an estimated $1,300 per vehicle and that is not it. consumers would wind up paying more in vehicles. electrical and machinery. did you know mexico is one of the biggest -- we import the most agricultural product from mexico. so get ready, brook, your avocados and mangos could go up in price as well. >> when you said $1,300, that is a massive advantage for everyone else. and appreciate it. two hours in the trading day. how about this, this
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announcement as cnn is learning stunning new details about what is actually happening in the facility as long the border. a new government report shares story as they refer to a dangerous overcrowding and unsanitary conditions at an el paso, texas, border patrol facility after a surprisin -- inspection. i'm talking about 900 people at a facility that should only hold 125. and reports of detainees standing on toilets in the cells to make room so they can breathe. pablo sandoval is in el paso. i don't even have words. 900 in a facility that should hold 125? how? >> reporter: you said it. brooke, you said it best. stunning is the word to describe that. however, it shouldn't be that surprising when you really look back at what we've heard from various not only administration officials but also mainly members of the department of homeland security including the secretary himself who testified before congress only about a
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week ago. speaking to lawmakers and really sharing the story of these men and women in green who are basically processing the families and that are overwhelmed with the numbers. however, what is important about this report, coming from the oig's office, this is an independent view of what is happening inside. you mentioned one facility, ome a short drive from where we are, the el paso north processing center meant to house about 125 detainees at one point in early may housing up to 900. it is unclear if the numbers are still looking like that. but there was one cell there that was meant to house about 35 people and investigators found it was housing up to 155 individuals, investigators saying that corrective action needs to be taken. and look, what we're hearing from dhs at the end of the report is saying it is what they had been saying especially the last several months, the dhs specifically said at the end the report the speed in which the illegal migrants are transiting through mexico to reach the
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southern border in their own words is frustrating the efforts to respond quickly. that being said, brooke, do not be surprised if this oig report is cited by administration officials mainly the white house here as they continue to claim that officials just south of the border in mexico are just not doing enough to stem the flow. brooke? >> we'll come back to that. pablo sandoval. thank you, in el paso. and rebecca lindland is an auto industry expert with 20 years of experience and a former executive analyst for blue book and founder of rebecca and great to have you on. this is all about perspective, right? so one analyst said that the fallout from the tariffs could be, quote, the greatest blow to the u.s. auto industry since the great recession. >> right. >> how -- you say nobody wins in the u.s. explain why mexico in particular
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is so important to the u.s. auto industry. >> because we have a free trade agreement with them right now. and the entire industry, automotive industry is founded on the parameters of that free trade, that tariff-free exchange ever parts and services. so they make really high labor intensive parts in mexico and south of mexico and then they import them into the u.s. and these products then go into an automobile and an automobile has 30,000 parts and if you are missing something as int regal as a wire harness which today carries all of your electronics and connects your phones and everything, to your vehicle, you can't build the vehicle with that. and you won't be able to employ people. >> but you know people will say, i'll get the auto parts somewhere else. you say what? >> you can't. you can't. we are not a flexible industry. we are not an industry that can just go to a different supplier here or grab a part here.
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everything is designated for that particular vehicle. and, you know, this is about jobs and it is about jobs in mexico as much as in the u.s. and so if we give mexico more jobs and better jobs, the idea of immigration goes away. because they don't need to move. they don't need to immigrate. we've given them good jobs. so it is a real benefit to everybody if we utilize mexico in the best possible way. which is what is happening now. that is how we're utilizing them. >> our reporter off the top went through how this would affect the u.s. consumer. we know volkswagen calls the tariffs attacks on u.s. consumers and a job threat and gm and ford said they're costs increased because of trumps 2018 tariffs on steel and aluminum. so now he's adding mexico to the mix. what does that do for -- what do the companies do because of this? >> it is going to make a vehicle more expensive. and we're already looking at a vehicle average new vehicle
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costs of over $35,000 a year. and what that is creating is a longer loan term. so people are borrowing for a longer period of time. which is keeping money out of the economy for them to spend on something else. so if you raise the price of a car, they're not going to be able to spend it at a restaurant, or at -- or other retail locations. because more of their money is toward getting their car. so this really will have a very negative ripple effect throughout the economy with the increase in prices. >> rebecca lindland, thank you so much. >> thank you. well move away from this for now. how about this big question today, did kim jong-un execute his top negotiator and imprison another after the failed summit with president trump? we have reaction from secretary of state mike pompeo. and bill barr speaking out for the first time since robert mueller broke his silence on the russia investigation. why barr said he and mueller sparred. and the state of missouri was set to be the first state
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breaking news. a judge just issued a ruling to keep the last missouri abortion clinic from closing. it was hours away from being closed. let's go straight to alexander field who is live. tell me more about the decision and is it permanent or no. >> reporter: i just got off the phone with planned parenthood and they are calling this a temporary victory because the license was set to expire tonight and that meant women across the state had no access to abortion whatsoever. they have been spared. that clock was running out. at this point they could continue to operate until june 4th and that is when the next court hearing has been scheduled for. today is the big day because this was the day when that license was set to expire. they went and argued in court just a day ago against the state to talk about the injury this could cause to women across the state if they were not able to continue to operate and a judge heard them and they were arguing for a temporary restraining order and they have a few more days to continue their
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operations. to walk this back a little built for our viewers, this is a regulatory fight. a licensing fight happened over the sole remaining abortion clinic in the state. planned parenthood went to court because they were arguing there is a war on abortion in this state and saying the state is trying to regulate abortion out of existence. they are license to operate was not being renew and that meant there are no abortion clinics left and the state said there were health violations and there was an ongoing investigation into medical records. that is why the license had not been remove -- renewed but for now a judge is giving planned parenthood a couple more days before it is heard again in this courtroom. >> alex field, thank you very much. in a new interview, attorney general bill barr lays bear how much he disagreed with special counsel robert mueller in -- critical parts of the mueller report. when mueller asserted there were
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ten cases of obstruction of justice against the president the mueller analysis went against that of the department of justice. >> we analyzed the law and the facts and a group of us spent a lot of time doing that. and determined that both as a matter of law, many of the instances would not amount to obstruction. we didn't agree with the legal analysis. a lot of the legal analysis in the report. it did not reflect the views of the department. it was the views of a particular lawyer or lawyers. and so we applied what we thought was the right law. >> julian epstein was the chief counsel for the house judiciary committee and you heard barr, based on everything you read, whose analysis do you think is correct?
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>> well, nice to be with you as well, brooke. mueller in the report lays out about a dozen instances in which the president could have obstructed justice. he keys in on four or five areas where he said there is substantial evidence that the president obstructed justice. and that really -- those are involving the effort to either fire mueller or limit the investigation to future interference. as well as the dangling of the pardon to manafort. i think there is a rather compelling case. and i think most legal experts look at it think there is a rather compelling case that there was obstruction of justice, at least in the four or five areas. mueller was quite specific that he didn't reach a determination one way or the other. you can have substantial evidence of obstruction and a prosecutor could decide not to prosecute for a whole bunch of reasons. but i think the weight of opinion in the -- at least in the independent legal community tends to think that at least in four or five areas it would be a pretty juicy case for a
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prosecutor if they could proceed with a prosecution. >> got it. let me play one more clip. this is bill barr saying this -- >> i think one of the ironies today is that people are saying that it's president trump that is shredding our institutions. i really see no evidence of that. from my perspective, the idea of resisting a democratically elected president and basically throwing everything at him and, you know, really changing the norms on the grounds that we have to stop this president, that is where the shredding of our norms and our institutions is occurring. >> julian, no evidence of shredding our institutions. i see your smile. how can he say that with a straight face? >> i find it hard. i did a little bit of work with -- when barr was attorney general in the '90s and worked with him and found him to be a stand-up guy. i think it is hard for him to say it with a straight face.
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there are not only a dozen examples of potential obstruction that the mueller report in the russia investigation but this president has relentlessly gone after the fbi, the justice department, the intelligence professionals. he even when he was abroad he even questioned the intelligence community finding that russia had interfered. if he done so much with just reading the indictment of the -- the mueller indictment of the russian intelligence, he would know that the indictment spells out in the intelligence community spelled out exactly who in -- who in russia was infiltrating and hacking computers and what servers. there wasn't a question. it was proof 100% certain but he attacked every major institution of law and it is a typical behavior that you see of autocrats, you see that happening in hungary and venezuela and poland and in the philippines. >> and not in the united states.
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>> it is a very typical thing you see in autocrats so it is something that should be of concern to the american people. >> you mentioned the either i-word and that is indict. so we've heard from senator elizabeth warren, one of the democratic presidential candidates. she's made news. she's joined congressman eric swalwell in saying they want to eliminate that department of justice policy that a president, a sitting president cannot be indicted. this is what senator warren tweeted. quote, i pledge to nominate on office of legal counsel, this is the olc head who will reverse the watergate era rule that a president cannot be indicted for criminal behavior. the olc purpose is to conduct -- the conduct of the executive branch not act as the president's get out of jail free card. explain to me why -- there must be a reason that this olc policy is there in the first place and can it or should it not be undone? >> i think it will be undone. i think it should be undone. there are two olc policies. office of legal counsel policies
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one in the '70s and then another one in 2000 that said you cannot indict a sitting president because you effectively decapitate the executive branch. if the president is having to defend himself in a criminal court, he can't conduct the business of the united states. and that is a constitutional argument that some make. i think it is the wrong argument. >> interesting. >> to elizabeth warren's point about a statute, that wouldn't undo that but the practical matter is the next democrat president will allow an indictment to go forward. look, it is the only way that i think we ensure the president is not above the law. when i worked on the clinton impeachment in the 1990s, it was very clear at that point that impeachment was becoming a political tool, a highly politicized and that the opposite party, the party defending the president and the white house saw it as basically a political tool. so i think it is very unlikely we'll see bipartisan cooperation on any kind of impeachment going
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forward so the president isn't held accountability in terms of removal. and others who make the argument about what about prosecuting the president after he leaves office. that is a fairy tale. there is no incoming president that will prosecute a president who is leaving office because it is just too politically divisive -- >> they'll let it lie? >> i'm sorry. >> they'll just let it lie? >> well, incoming president is not going to want to deal with that political baggage. it is very divisive for an incoming president and then the president who is -- the outgoing president who was the subject of the potential prosecution, all of his or her supporters, the entire party, is going to basically go to war with that existing administration. it is not really a practical thing to think that a subsequent administration will prosecute a president from a previous administration. so changing the policy, i think, is the only way to hold the president accountable to make sure he is not above the law. for those that argue you can't
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decapitate the executive branch. there is an an easy solution. you could indict a sitting president and hold that indictment under seal and then continue with the prosecution subsequently. and i think that is -- that is the best balance of kind of relative interests here. >> there is one suggestion and i'm sure you are not alone. julian epstein, good to see you. >> thanks, brooke. the summit with president trump failed regarding north korea's kim jong-un and talks have hit a standstill and because of it did kim execute his top negotiator and put another in a labor camp? who the u.s. said has disappeared. thanks for the ride-along, captain! i've never been in one of these before, even though geico has been-
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secretary of state mike pompeo said he is checking reports that north korea executed its top envoy to the u.s. in the aftermath of the failed hanoi summit. a south korea newspaper is reported that the tom negotiator kim yong chol was killed and then there is another man kim yong chol who is the counter part of secretary mike pompeo and sourced to -- sent to forced labor and he handed the letter from his leader to trump last year. we should point out cnn has not been able to independently verify any of this. this is secretary pom ao responding to this news when asked about it just this morning. >> do you have any confirmation of comment about that? are you concerned about those reports?
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>> we've seen the reporting to which you're referring. we're doing our best to check it out. i don't have anything else to add to that today. >> bob baer is a former cia operative and security analyst. so, bob, executing top officials because of a failed summit. is this seriously in the realm of possibility? >> oh, absolutely, brooke. it is par for the course for kim jong-un. he killed his uncle. strapped him to an anti-aircraft gun and blew him apart. he killed his half brother with a weapon of mass destruction in an international airport. this guy is perfectly capable of doing this. and what worries me, brooke, is this the president's -- he likes the guy. what does that say about trump? >> how do you -- if these reports are true, how should trump respond to this? and how do you think he will?
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>> well, i mean, the way to do is to simply back off from the north koreans. at this point they're clearly not reliable partners and very dangerous and they need to go back to the old way of dealing with north korea and not pretending of going to the summit, these summits and pretending that something happened. it is just encouraging him and kim jong-un is, like i said, is not a reliable partner. and that country is very dangerous. and we have to do a re-set on this. no doubt about it. >> if you are an american negotiator with this country, what is going to happen, presumably there will be another round because of how president trump views this dictator, when there is another round of talks and if you are sitting there thinking as an american diplomat these are new people to deal with and depending on how it goes, they might not be there
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for the next round. >> no. they're afraid to say anything. not a word. they're not going to turn out to be well at the next negotiations because these people know what is in store for them. i would go back to the chinese and the last thing we should be doing now is annoying them but the only country with any influence over north korea is china and a little bit russia. and at this point, we need an alliance against north korea. we can't pretend it is not the art of the deal. that is not the way it works. >> bob baer, thank you. breaking news. in a search for a 4-year-old girl in texas. we are getting word of a jailhouse confession. plus she was the key figure in the supreme court confirmation hearings for clarence thomas and of course she recently spoke about joe biden's roll there as chairman of the committee, but today hear what professor anita hill told graduates.
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so much so it has garnered the nickname yolly-wood. >> from the eldridge atl, rich, good to see you my friend. let's begin with how much this is helped georgia. the motion picture association said georgia provided 92,000 local jobs and $2.7 billion in direct spending. so with these companies pulling out, how much will that hurt georgia? >> it is huge. i mean, so think about it this way. georgia's top three industries are film and television, convention and agriculture. and so this is the top. we're talking about over $10 billion a year. the last time i checked. and so i think the folks who are supporting this bill, who are mad at, quote/unquote hollywood liberals, who cares if robert
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downey jr. doesn't make movies here, but what they fail to think about are the friends and neighbors who live here and work here and as gaffers and as camera people and as makeup artists. >> what about the screenwriter that you were in touch with. what did he say to you? >> i got a text back from a screenwriter since his first plays were produced in atlanta and he is a screenwriter for hallmark and i said what do you want people to know about this and i'll read this to you. he said that we get it. we understand why our colleagues who are not based in the southeast would be disinclined to pursue projects here but there is a moment when southern progressives are up against the folks and if y'all walk away right now you're leaving us to fight alone. we need back-up. >> why do these production companies and these actors think that their threats will lead to change in this law? >> it's a big question. because brian kemp, our current governor, he ran on this issue.
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and so that is why -- that momentum helped get this legislation across the finish line at the gold dome. i think you're seeing a lot of conversations happening behind the scenes. disney is one of the most recent studios to say they're now re-evaluating their options in this state. and so think about what is going on behind the scenes. brie larson who was captain marvel for disney, one of the most -- one of the biggest box office successes, if people like brie larson are saying to disney i won't work on the sequel in georgia, if taraji p. hen son and tiffany haddish say to tyler perry we won't go to your studios in georgia to make the next production, that will have significant impact. think about stranger things, ozark, all of shows, the walking dead -- >> so much shows shot in georgia. i don't think people fully appreciate that and just as a fellow georgian, it is just
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boosted the state, the economy, people's opportunities so much. it's tough and you understand why some people are doing what they're doing. but i feel you listening to the screenwriters quote. and it is like -- it is just -- and what kemp ran on. so what do you do? >> yeah. >> so we'll see if the companies who are re-evaluating make good on promises to pull out. we'll continue the conversation. rich eldridge, it is wonderful to see you. thank you. just into cnn, a devastating confession, the stepfather of the missing 4-year-old maleah davis just confessed to where he dumped her body. darrenan vance was caring for her while her mother was out of town. he initially told police that three men knocked him unconscious and abducted this little girl but surveillance footage shows she never left the apartment. and he was arrested as a suspect. and now community activists quonel ex said he said this
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>> l-a-u-t. >> you are correct. >> e-l-a-s -- >> oh, my goodness. incredible ending to this year's scripps national spelling bee. not one or two, but eight winners for the first time ever. and get this. after round 17, the competition had to make the decision to call it quits after 20 rounds because there weren't enough challenging words. and for this group of elite eight, after 3 1/2 hours of grueling competition sharing the
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victory even sweeter. >> as a speller, you know how hard everyone else has worked and how much they deserve to win because you're here with everyone else. you're all finalists in the national spelling bee. >> sam raggah is the director of the 2018 documentary breaking the bee. exploring the 20 year trend of the indian american students dominating the spelling bee and scott isaacs is a current coach so welcome to both of you. okay. so exciting. if your a linguist or enjoy the spoken word or the root of words and sam, you called them the slayers of the dictionary but an eight-way tie. should they have kept going? >> yes. i ultimately, i would love to see them go for hours and hours and hours and you just crown one winner after, two or three or four in the morning but that is not what we're here to do or see. and i think to see eight kids
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win and holding that trophy altogether with the hands up like that -- >> phenomenal. >> it was phenomenal. it is a magical moment and something that the scripps bee you never know what could happen and that is what we saw last night. >> unexpected. scott, you were once in the kids shoes. we'll throw words on the screen and -- these are the words that the kids aced. i'm not even going to begin to try to say these words. >> sure. >> what do you think that the decision was like with this level of difficulty to call it after 20 rounds? >> i think basically what this came down to was the fact that the knowledge of the spellers was absolutely brilliant. but having said that, the bee can only go on so long before endurance starts to become to be a factor. even more than book knowledge. and tv time. and i think it basically came down to --
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>> and lives -- they can't stand up there forever, right. >> they can't. and we saw that. one of the spellers said, do you know what time it is? and it was basically because -- we can't go on much longer. they're knowledge is unimpeachable. it has to be time. >> do you think, for the two of you, but scott, staying with you, do you think the words should be harder. sam told me there is spelling bee shade going around today like the words should have been harder and more words with unknown origin roots. what say you? >> i believe that the words were as difficult as i've sfr seen -- i have ever seen at scripps. and i have seen some bees where the words were more difficult but having said that, think it comes down to are these words appropriate for learning. they become so specialized and so arcaying and you wonder what
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are they learning and is it worth it to be able to learn the words that you'll never see, never use, never be exposed to for the rest of your life. so then you start to wonder, is it just a memorization contest? >> yeah. and then to you, sam, on a lot of your film about celebrating indian-american kids who sort of smoke everyone else. why? >> there are a lot of different factors. and in our film, we start in the 1960s. 1965 there is a change of immigration laws. that was allowing highly-educated migrants into the country and eliminated racist quota and that got things started and in 1985 john is the first indian-american to win. the headlines, they were son of migrants wins the scripps national spelling bee from that moment on that told everyone that this community can do it. and then it just continued to
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perpetuate with espn hosting it every single year. that is the biggest sports stage. indian-americans dominate the geography bee but that is not on espn. so these kids are on tv with lebron, with serena williams, when you're next to them, you say i want to do that and it just continues. and then you also get into the fact that this is a very tight-knit family community and they know multiple languages. they're with parents and studying and also very academically driven group because that is how their parents came to this country. that is how the parents succeeded and so they want to impart that and all of that comes together as a perfect storm of the last decades with the 12 consecutive years of winners. >> the hours and hours of preparation. i know both of you know all about that. but scott, especially you. i wish i had more time. i have to go. but again, sam's film is "breaking the bee". >> and bee was broken last night. >> it was. >> sam regia and scott isaacs,
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relationship between law enforcement and community to host talks at local barbershops and we look at how detective tyrone dennis went beyond the call of duty. >> the bar per shop packed them in. but when atlanta police department investigator detective tyrone dennis shows up, it is no longer about a shave and a hair cut. >> do i look like i have a gun on? >> no. >> i have a gun on. could i put a gun in here? >> yes. >> do i know him? >> no. >> this is clippers and cops a program started by the detective one year ago in atlanta. >> i reached out to other people i know with former felons and gang members and different things like that and we basically came up with the concept to -- let's talk. >> we're trying to get them a cut. >> this 15-year detective with the gang unit partnered with other police officers to mend gaps between citizen and police and the open conversation and
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interaction. they cover a wide variety of topics from politics to sports to current events but the main objective is to create trust and empathy between law enforcement and the community. >> the younger generation of police need to be involved to the extent that the older generation of police is involved. >> that is the goal. the goal is to try to get the officers to let down the window. >> and if he has those twists, he'll have to face what comes at him. >> don't judge me by how i look, judge me by my character. >> that is right. >> as part of today's lesson, the detective explains what to do and not do when stopped by police. >> let your hands be visible. show your fingers. where we could see them. if you can't get to know weapon if i see your weapons. >> the program happens on the third thursday of every month at a different barbershop in the city. >> a barbershop in a black community is a sanctuary that any type of dialogue goes. so we're just trying to piggy
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back off of that and have these same open discussions. >> dealing with people and relationships, it is about communication. you know what i'm saying? straight up. >> the conversation is raw and realistic to what some experience when stopped by police. >> you say you saw this when? >> last year. >> last year. >> last month. >> was this after we saw kids get gunned down? >> that is why i started it. >> but what i'm saying was, how long did it take? it was last year. >> i'm going to cut you off. >> it was last year. >> the whole goal of this is trying to do something different. i want to change policing as we know it. >> detective hopes to take his community policing tactic of clippers and cops nationwide. >> i want to take this model from atlanta but across the country and basically implement it for all police departments. >> nick valencia, cnn, atlanta. you're watching cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being here. wall street is taking a nosedive after