tv CNN Newsroom with Poppy Harlow and Jim Sciutto CNN June 17, 2019 7:00am-8:00am PDT
good morning to you. >> president trump is set to officially launch his re-election effort tomorrow, but today that launch is getting a bit overshadowed by a purge of campaign pollsters after numbers leaked showing the president running behind democrats. that's multiple. in key battleground states. of course, it includes joe biden in michigan and wisconsin. sources tell cnn the president is frustrated at the attention those results have garnered. >> and now he's claiming they're fake. the president showing his frustration this morning in a tweet saying, only fake polls show him running behind democrats. of course, these were polls produced by his own campaign. sarah westwood joins us.
the president has taken aim at media organizations, media polls that don't make him look good. this is his own campaign. does he expect folks to believe these polls were face even though they were produced by people working for him? >> reporter: it's important to know the campaign is not denying these numbers are accurate. they disputed the context around them, saying it was a turnout model that was worst case scenario in some battlegrounds and we're not seeing the whole picture of what the internal surveys say. president trump is upset by how many internal polls generated. cnn reported on the existence of these polls weeks ago. these are actually three month old results. more specifics about the survey trickled out in leaks through the past couple of weeks, culminating on friday with hard numbers from the four of the 17 states surveyed by the campaign. the president's wrath combined
with aides' frustration this a snippet leaked to the press led them to sever ties with three of the groups over the weekend. one is not affiliated with trump anymore. the president is continuing to deny these numbers even as external polls sort of confirm the outlines of what those internal surveys suggested, which is that the president runs the furthest behind joe biden, that in some cases that could be a double digit lead that biden has. this is not the conversation that the campaign wants to be having. on the eve of the president's re-election launch tomorrow in orlando, that is supposed to be a massive event the president has been promoting on twitter, but really this controversy over his polls casting a shadow over that, poppy and jim. >> sarah westwood, thank you. let's take a deeper look with terry antonin is here. it's not just the internal polling that shows the double digit lead by biden in key
states. it's fox news' own national poll, i know it's national and early, but gives a ten-point lead to biden versus trump. >> we can take a look at public polling from michigan, from pennsylvania, we can take a look at it from texas, we could take a look nationally. it shows joe biden running ahead in all those places. keep in mind, those three states were states donald trump defeated hillary clinton. the idea you could fire kacampan pollsters and it makes it better for him, i don't buy it. you see biden running well ahead of trump in places he needs to win in order to win re-election and biden is well up. >> this is a long way away from the actual vote, about a year and a half. historically when you see margins like that at this point, are they indicative? >> look, this is the here and now. polls only tell us what's going on right now. i should point out if we go back to 2000, what we generally see is national polls at this point are not that predictive. we still have a year and a half
to go until the election. hillary clinton was up by 20 points at this point. you take a look at where george w. bush was in 2000. he was up double digits. of course, al gore won that popular vote. we see it on screen. the average difference, 11 points between where the national polls are at this particular point and where the popular vote ended up. it's still very early. the one thing i should point out here is donald trump, there's been over 50 national polls taken so far this campaign season dating back since 2017. donald trump has not led joe biden in a single one of those polls. it's been very, very consistent. >> now, i'm glad you put all those qualifiers on national polls, especially so early. joe biden, though, hasn't done many interviews at all. any? has he done any interviews? not many. >> he does a lot with local media. >> not a lot of national. >> not a lot of national. >> right. so, there's still a lot here that joe biden is going to say that is going to help him or
hurt him. >> absolutely. what the national polls are indicative of is donald trump is not particularly popular. donald trump wants to turn this into a choice election between him and what he hopes is an unpopular democrat. when you take the difference between the favorable ratings of the incumbent president and the opposition party candidate, that's more telling than the president's own approval rating. i think the question going forward is, will the democratic nominee be as unpopular as hillary clinton was. she was the second most unpopular, donald trump is the most unpopular. or will it be a referendum on donald trump? if that's the case, it will be a repeat. >> repeat that. what is the number historically indicative about a president's chances of re-election? >> normally what we want to keep an eye on is the president's approval rating and the popularity of his opponent. the difference between those two? >> what does that look like? >> joe boyden has a net positivity rating. double digits.
hillary clinton's net favorability rating was minus double digits. that's the difference. >> those numbers can change. >> right now the president's in major trouble. >> harry enten, thanks much. always breaks it down. >> i try my best. we have some news just now into cnn. gloria vanderbilt, legendary fashion idol has just passed away. we're just getting in. have a look at her life. she died at the age of 95. >> gloria vanderbilt, my mom, lived her entire life in the public eye. born in 1924, her father reginald vanderbilt was heir to the vanderbilt fortune but gambled away his inheritance and died when my mom was just a baby. her mother wasn't ready to be a mom or a widow. my mom grew up in france not knowing anything about the
vanderbilt family or the money that she would inherit when she turned 21. she had no idea the trouble that money would create. >> here's the first movie of little gloria herself. frightened by the curious crowd, she flees. money isn't everything. >> reporter: when she was 10, her father's sister, gertrude vanderbilt whitney, sued to have my mom taken away from her own mother. it was a custody battle the likes of which the world had never seen. it was called the trial of the century and took place during the height of the depression, making headlines every da more months. the court awarded custody of my mom to her aunt gertrude, whom she barely knew. and the judge fired the one person she needed and loved, her nanny. >> she was my life line. >> reporter: as a teenager she tried to avoid the spotlight but reporters and cameramen would follow her everywhere. she was determined to make something of her life.
determined to make a name for herself and find the love and family that she so desperately craved. at 17 against her aunt's wishes she got married. she knew it was a mistake from the get go. >> he's 32. >> reporter: he was described as a hollywood agent. was he an agent? >> maybe at one point he was. he had been married to a well-known actress and she was -- died under mysterious circumstances. there were sort of rumors around maybe he had killed her, you know. >> reporter: wait a minute. wait a minute. so, you got married to a guy there were rumors he killed his former wife? >> yes, yes. >> reporter: did that not seem to give you pause? >> well, i thought all he needs is me, you know, to -- >> reporter: oh, god. >> sweetheart, i was only 17. >> reporter: i know. at 21 she married again and had two sons with the legendary
conductor. this is what he looked like when you first met him? >> well, it's a terrible photograph of him but he was 63 when i first met him and married him. >> reporter: as soon as you saw him you thought -- >> instant. knew him a week and married him three weeks later. >> reporter: really? i didn't know that. he was 63? >> yeah. >> reporter: wow. did any of your friends think it was weird? >> i don't know. >> reporter: they didn't say anything? >> didn't matter to me. >> reporter: the marriage lasted more than a decade and then she married sidney lumet and then my father. over the course of her life, my mom was photographed by all the great photographers and she worked as a painter, a writer, an actress and designer.
if you were around in the early 1980s it was hard to miss the jeans she helped create, but that was her public face, the one she learned to hide behind as a child. her private self, her real self was more fascinating and lovely than anything she showed the public. i always thought of her as a visitor from another world. a traveler stranded here who had come from a distant star that burned out long ago. i always felt it was my job to try to protect her. she was the strongest person i've ever met but she wasn't tough. she never developed a thick skin to protect herself from hurt. she wanted to feel it all. she wanted to feel life's pleasures, its pains as well. she trusted too freely, too completely and suffered tremendous losses, but she always pressed on, always worked hard, always believed the best was yet to come. you think the next great love is right around the corner? >> absolutely. absolutely.
>> reporter: is there anyone i should know about right now? >> no. >> reporter: i think he said he's never met somebody over the age of 16 who loves being in love as much as you? >> that's true. i think we should always be in love. >> reporter: and she was always in love. in love with men or friends or books and art. in love with her children and her grandchildren and then her great grandchildren. love is what she believed in more than anything. earlier this month we had to take her to the hospital. that's where she learned she had very advanced cancers in her stomach and that it had spread. when the doctor told her she had cancer, she was silent for a while and then she said, well, it's like that old song, show me the way to get out of this world because that's where everything is. later she made a joke and we started giggling. i never knew we had the exact same giggle. i recorded it and it makes me giggle every time i watch it.
[ laughing ] >> reporter: joseph conrad wrote that we live as we die alone. he was wrong in my mom's case. gloria vanderbilt died as she lived, on her own terms. i know she hoped for a little more time, a few days or weeks at least. there were paintings she wanted to make, more books she wanted to read, more dreams to dream, but she was ready. she was ready to go. >> once upon a time -- >> reporter: she spent a lot of time alone in her head during her life, but when the end came, she was not alone. she was surrounded by beauty and by family and by friends. the last few weeks every time i kissed her good-bye, i'd say, i
love you, mom. she would look at me and say, i love you, too. you know that. and she was right. i did know that. i knew it from the moment i was born and i'll know it for the rest of my life. and in the end, what greater gift can a mother give to her son. gloria vanderbilt was 95 years old when she died. what an extraordinary life. what an extraordinary mom. and what an incredible woman. >> goodness. she was, of course, the mother of our colleague, anderson keeper. that was anderson's voice telling the most personal story possible, the story of losing your mother. >> now you know where anderson got that laugh, from his mom. we have a statement from anderson about his mother we would like to read it to you. gloria vanderbilt was an extraordinary woman who loved life and lived it on her own terms. she was a painter, a writer, a designer, but also a remarkable
mother, wife and friend. >> she was 95 years old but ask anyone close to her and they'd tell you, she was the youngest person they knew. the coolest and most modern. she died this more than the way she wanted to, at home surrounded by family and friends. those are words of our colleague, anderson cooper, on the loss of his mother. a remarkable life. gloria vanderbilt passed away at 95. here are even more reasons to join t-mobile.
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relates to nuclear -- production of nuclear materials and low grade uranium. >> iran says it will quadruple uranium for nuclear reactors, not bombs. the nuclear deal had restricted this. this is a nuclear deal negotiated not just with the u.s.'s participation but allies. trump administration pulled out of that nuclear deal. this is part of iran's response. our own fred pleitgen has been on the ground from iran. this is iran pushing back, right, in the midst of a major standoff with the u.s. over a nuclear deal.
are they perceiving they might have some european support for this? >> reporter: oh, i think absolutely. that's one of the things they're banking on. they're calling on the europeans to do. the announcement the iranians made today. they stayed they were going to quadruple their output of low-grade enriched uranium. they say they're going to reach the ceiling level in about ten days. ten days is also exactly the time their ultimatum runs out for when they want the europeans to have investment vehicles together for companies from europe to invest in iran getting around american sanctions. essentially what they're telling the europeans is what you need to do is you need to try to circumvent these sanctions from the united states to keep the nuclear agreement alive. one of the things we know is america's european allies as well as iranians are very much in agreement they want to keep the agreement. they disagree with the trump administration that the nuclear agreement needs to go away completely.
obviously, the europeans very much want to keep it alive. it was very interesting to see, guys, at the press conference we saw today by the iranians, they kept saying again and again, these measures are going to go into place. the uranium enrichment is going to increase but the europeans can make this all go away if they go against what the united states is doing, which is obviously trying to kill the nuclear agreement all together. certainly the iranians seeing there is space between the u.s. and its europeans allies on this matter and obviously also trying to get in between them and try to keep the nuclear agreement alive that way and keep the europeans away from the u.s. to a certain extent. >> fred flik pleitgen, thank yo being with us from iran. let's speak with john kirby. go big picture. the trump administration pulled out of the iran nuclear deal. said it wasn't tough enough.
now iran partly in response to the trump administration is pulling out, no longer in effect with a deal they were abidie ii by. where does this leave us? should we expect an escalation from the trump side? >> reporter: that's the question, how will the trump administration react to this? iranians are technically violating the deal. there's no question about that mathematically speaking but they're trying to not break it all up in pieces. they want the deal to pursue. they just want to reap the economic benefits they haven't been able to get. thif been under a lot of pressure, the rouhani government, about the benefits that were supposed to come, the sanctions relief. they're trying to stay in it the deal, preserve it, without utterly breaking it. that's why they're doing a technical violation with low-grade enriched uranium. our european allies, no
question, they want to find a way around those sanctions. it's also a message to the trump administration that we're serious about wanting to preserve the deal. we're also serious that you have caused all -- you've provoked us to do this. you've made this a reality. >> let's talk about the military side here. you have these attacks on tankers when the u.s. administration says iran is behind. you have american lawmakers openly calling for a military strike on iran in response to that. iran is talking about sending more soldiers to the region. you also served in the pentagon. tell our viewers what's happening here and is there a danger of military conflict? >> i don't think we're at the point of open military conflict right now. this is brinksmanship. you know this well. i believe the rigc did this, clearly they did this, but it's possible they did it in an unkoou uncoordinated fashion. they have done rogue operations
in the past. i think they've put the civil state government of a flan a difficult place. but now, you know, the deed is done and the rhetoric is flying back and forth and the u.s. side is considering military options. the military options being weighed are a full spectrum. lie low intensity stuff. maybe additional isr to keep an eye on iran to the deployment of conventional forces, although it's unclear what they would be doing. you could escort tankers, which you could could do in a nonprovocative way but in a military visible way. there's a whole lot being teed up to the national security council. it will be interesting what options they choose. pompeo was out this weekend saying the effort is diplomatic but we have to watch these military options as well. >> he said the president doesn't want war. the danger is the war you don't want, right? escalation can be dangerous.
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against the president. the nation is divided. let's explain these numbers. this is an nbc/"wall street journal" poll. 48% of registered voters say congress should not hold impeachment proceedings. >> but you have the support going from 17 to 27%. that's a minority but it's growing. a lot among democrats. a lot of questions whether filing impeachment papers could hurt them. here is freshman representative. >> i think this is about us doing our jobs. if we're talking about what's going to be a victory for trump or not a victory for trump, we're politicizing and tainting this process which should be removed from politics. >> joining us, joe lockhart, former white house press secretary for the clinton administration. the numbers are conflicting. overall you have 17% to 27%, so
a slightly larger minority of americans want to begin with impeachment proceedings and another nbc/"wall street journal" figure that only 20% of registered voters believe congress should continue investigating the president. what's happening here? you've covered politics for a long time. are people growing weary? >> no. i think trump supporters, republicans, are by and large against impeachment and investigating. democratic support is growing. it was politic. i think democrats are moving much more towards. the key group is the i independents. you see inkcremental growth in support for. the extent pelosi is looking at the polls, that's what she's looking for. there's lots of democrats jumping up and down, we should
impeach. most all are in safe seats. >> but congresswoman acasio cortez knows who her constituents are. >> but it's really the freshmen democrats won in seats trump won. that's why the democrats took over the house that pelosi is concerned about. right now i think she's pursuing a strategy to let this thing build. when the public moves with them, and they'll be doing things to help them, there's a time impeachment is right. >> nancy pelosi will talk about her experience during the clinton impeachment hearings. you were much involved at that time. the consensus is it hurt republicans coming out of there. do you believe that's a correct reading of that history? >> it hurt republicans in the short term. it didn't hurt republicans too much in the long term because
2000 was a good year for republicans. it went away and different issues took over. there isn't a lot of comparison. there is one point of comparison which is the public doesn't like to have without their input what they voted for overturned. the republicans in 1998 jammed this impeachment through. they took the starr report and within two months voted on impeachment and within another month had a trial. so i think pelosi is saying let's build this slowly, let's get all the people to testify, which will take time and we'll see where we are by the fall. >> joe lockhart, thank you very much. let's go outside the supreme court, jessica snihave snyder i there on this case about racial gerrymandering. >> reporter: the justices handing a win to democrats in virginia all over this dispute of some of these district maps
in the state of virginia. the supreme court here not we h weighing in on the constitutionality of these maps, not saying whether they constituted an improper racial gerrymandering. they said republicans challenging these maps, they said the republicans from house of delegates in virginia did not have standing to actually bring this case. i'll take you back, give you a bit of the facts here. african-american voters in virginia initially challenged these 11 district maps in the state of virginia back in 2011. a lower court had said that, yes, these maps were improperly racially gerrymandered. meaning they put too much racial consideration into the maps when they drew them. then the case moved forward and republicans from the house of delegates in virginia tried to challenge the lower court saying this was improper racial gerrymandering. the problem here is in the state of virginia, the attorney general and the governor both
democrats and they say, we don't authorize you bringing this lawsuit. the republicans try to push ahead anyway, bringing their challenge to the supreme court and the supreme court today saying republicans, you cannot challenge these maps. you don't have the authority. it's it is attorney general of the state of democrat who would have authority to challenge these maps. the practical effect of this is that the court-ordered maps that were put into place by this lower court will stand. those have already been used in past elections. they'll continue to be used. it's essentially a victory for these african-american voters who challenge these statewide maps but the supreme court here not ruling directly on this issue as to whether or not there's racial gerrymandering here. >> thanks much. we have gleer brown marshall. you've been sitting here as we watch this news come in. so folks at home can understand this. in effect the court strikes down
or upholds, rather, a challenge to a map, a congressional map that was -- that was the argument racially motivated? >> this case has been up to the supreme court before. it's gone back down. it's up again. the core issue is whether or not republicans had the standing, the ability to bring the case in the first place. so this standing issue is what the court ruled on today and did not go to this issue of whether or not there was racial gerrymandering. the reason why you pointed out correctly, racial gerrymandering is one for the democrats because the initial federal courts somewhere in the process say there was racial gerrymandering. that issue then went before the sdou supreme court said, we're not going to talk about that. we're going to -- >> we're going to let that judgment stand. >> for now. we're just going to point out the fact we can't get to that issue unless you're here by right in the first place.
since you republicans in the virginia house of delegates are not here by right in the first place, we can't reach the issues -- >> is that precedent if they're not deciding the merits of the case? >> it's going to let the lower court decision stand but it's not an actual ruling because they never got to the substance of the case. there is a procedural issue of whether or not this party should be in court in the first place. >> so, what stands is the lower court's decision deciding in favor of these african-american democratic voters who had that lower court believed through telling and circumstantial evidence that race freedom natured over traditional districting factors. that is what stands now. i'm interested in why you think this court didn't take on racial gerrymandering? is this because chief justice john roberts wants to do everything he can to make sure the court isn't seen as racial?
>> i think the justice wants to keep the supreme court out of politics as much as possible. if he and the rest of the court, a majority, allowed this case to proceed and actually decided it on the merits, then they would be opening the door for any disgruntled political party to challenge a lower court decision even if that legislature or the state itself decided, we don't want to pursue this. i think this is an attempt, lower the application of what the court will consider which will make it less likely that the supreme court has to step in and make political decisions. >> it's a race question here, right? >> not really because if -- for him to go to that merit, he would have to have firm ability to reach it. that question was before the court during the oral argument. when you go back and listen to the oral argument, attorney clement was arguing these republicans should be able to bring this case. the court said then they saw a
problem. even the conservatives on the court said there was a problem with standing of these republicans. because once democrats took over the governorship and the attorney general, there was a switch on what and who should be able to bring cases regarding this issue. the standing issue is the crux of it for right now. i'm sure they're going to figure out a way to get back to the same question again when they have the parties involved. >> stick around. we're watching the court. there's a lot to die gugest. we'll take a short break now. welcome to our lounge. enjoy your stay. thanks very much. ♪ ♪ find calm in over 1,000 airport lounges worldwide. it's another way we've got your back. the business platinum card from american express. don't do business without it.
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an incredible story out of north carolina. an 11-year-old boy fighting off a home invader with a machete. >> the boy and his home safe this morning. natasha chen joins us with this remarkable story. unbelievable bravery in this little boy. >> absolutely, poppy and jim. the sheriff wants to say the boy is also incredibly lucky. you can imagine if an intruder had been armed with something more serious. everyone is lucky that no one was more seriously injured. now, the boy says that he was on the phone home alone, on the phone with his mom when he heard a knock at the door. a woman was knocking at the door and called to two other people saying, no one is home. the boy saw a man waiting by a car. another man breaking in through the window. and that's when that man picked up a pellet gun in the home.
the boy said he knew that pellet gun was not loaded and so he did what the intruder asked. he went into the closet as asked. and then he picked up a machete off the wall and hit the intruder in the back of the head. sort of at the back of the neck. he said this machete is a gift he usually uses to cut down trees. years ago his family had been robbed. the house had been ransacked before. years ago his dad had told him to defend himself, to fight back. that's what the boy was thinking at the time, to fight back. now, the story only gets crazier from there because then this intruder runs to the hospital with that machete. the sheriff's office is looking for him. they locate him at one of the hospitals but he's transferred to another hospital where he escaped. we have a sound bite here for you to listen to here. >> he pointed a pellet gun at me
that was floekt our house. and i knew that it wasn't loaded so i just sat down and got in my closet like he told me to. and then he went into the living room and grabbed the phone to make sure i didn't call 911 or anything. when i saw him put it in his pocket, i grabbed my machete off my wall and went to hit him. i hit him in the back of the head, like right here. >> that boy said that he thinks it's probably a better idea to get a job rather than to steal from someone's home. the boy seems to be okay, though. as we discuss, this intruder eventually escaped the hospital on friday night. now there's discussion from the sheriff's office about changing their policy and protocols with how they work with hospitals so this doesn't happen again, poppy and jim. >> wow. what a story. n thank you for the story. we have more out of the supreme court. we'll have that right after
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it could have provided an opening for paul manafort. you'll remember within minutes of paul manafort being sentenced in washington, d.c., for the federal crimes, the manhattan district attorney brought charges against manafort in new york state for mortgage fraud crimes. paul manafort could have potentially argued he couldn't be brought in federal court and state court. the supreme court essentially putting that to rest, putting those chances that paul manafort could challenge this on a little bit lower of a level here because it does stand this separate sovereigns exception will stand that state and federal prosecutors can, in fact, bring charges that result from the same underlying offense without violating the double jeopardy clause. again, it was a long shot it would have been overturned because this has been such a long standing exception. >> just quickly, this was not about paul manafort but bigger
picture practical impact? >> the practical impact is we have courts already overworked. federal and state courts. we have over 2 million people who are in our jails and prisons. and so this is not going to help the situation but it's dispiriting for that criminal who's been convicted in one court who now doesn't know if that person will be convicted in another court. >> those who brought the case were critical of the fact they think it punishes poor people essentially, right? >> and it does. when you look at your jails and prisons, that's where you find poor people, people without an education, across racial bounds. my other concern is now that we have this punishment mentality in our prisons, in our criminal justice system, where are we going with this? why was it necessary for the federal government then to take a state conviction and then add more time and more punishment? possession of a weapon and, yes, this person had a nasty
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