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you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. let's get right into it. the breaking news in this controversial police brutality case. a new york police judge today recommending police officer should be fired for his role in the 2014 death of eric garner. nyp commissioner james o'neill must make the final decision but is expected to follow the recommendation. garner died five years ago when being pulled to the ground during an arrest. disturbing video capturing that arrest went viral and when you watch it, garner can be heard pleading with the arresting officers repeatedly saying "i
can't breathe." that phrase became a national rallying cry for activists battling police brutality. his daughter reacting to the judge's recommendation just a few moments ago. >> this has been a long battle, five years too long. and finally somebody has said that there's some information that this cop has done something wrong. we've waited five years. ccrb has made the recommendation. commissioner o'neill, fire pa pantleo. that's all we're asking. >> joey jackson and shimon perez. shimon, first to you. before we get into what de blasio could or could not have done, will this officer be fired? >> i think it's highly expected he will get fired. most folks that i've been talking to don't see how the
police commissioner wouldn't recommend it. anything can happen. the union, the lawyers for the police officer obviously are going to fight like hell to make sure he doesn't get fired. they've already done that. they're going to make their final appeal to the police commissioner eventually and then he's going to have to make the decision. it's interesting the nypd judge, she had a specific part of the video where the officer puts his arm around garner but then he collapsed into like a choke hold and that's where he violated the procedures and protocols of the nypd. it's not so much in the beginning -- >> it was that moment for her. >> it was that moment that brought her to her thinking. >> all along the new york mayor said, no, i'm precluded to acting by the department of justice. he reiterated that on the debate
stage in detroit thele oth othe night. did he basically admit that isn't the case in. >> i can tell you this is justice delayed but finally justice has arrived. this family has suffered through a lot. there are many believing, including myself, that there should have been an initial indime. i can tell you grand jurors are instructed by what you tell them and the information they lay out. we say a grand jury could indict a ham sandwich. that's why the grand jury didn't get an indictment, he didn't want one. why do i mention that? that was a measure of justice the family thought was a missed opportunity. i would hasten to add that many in the community believes he believes to be in jail. now we have the opportunity of the federal government as it relates to there department of justice investigation. i'm one that believes that's an outrage. the department of justice certainly -- >> they declined to prosecute. >> yes, they did. i believe that was a choice they
made that was not proper founded upon adequate facts. there was dissent in the justice department. you don't make a decision based on whether we're going to win. let the jury decide. if you believe there's enough evidence to move forward, let them do that. it was an straightiadministrati hearing, the judge made her conclusion. she needs to make the determination to terminate him and lose his pension. he could be and should be in jail. >> the whole delay in a lot of this was because there was disagreement in the department of justice how to proceed on this. there were fbi agents investigating this in new york who felt they could improve. there was a different standard from the administrative hearing to obviously the criminal case. they felt they couldn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this violated eric garner's civil rights. there were attorneys, prosecutors at the department of justice for years who said he needed to be prosecuted. and really the delay and this
disagreement that i think kind of helpedd loretta lynch when s the attorney general to the enough administration helped that and so there was a lot disagreement. there's disagreement within the police department on how to proceed. the rank and file don't think this officer should be fired. >> i just know that -- hang on one second. i had amaril garner sitting here and she said every taxpayer has been paying to keep this police officer employed. she said i have been paying for my father's murderer for five years. >> i cannot disagree with that. that's an accurate statement. and going back to what accurately shimon is mentioning, which is a disagreement, there's disagreements every day. when you stand up before a jury,
the jurors disagree. i don't think the standard needs to be, well, we disagree, should. we get a conviction? is there sufficient evidence? could we prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt not are we going to win? federal government has over 95% conviction rate. are you worried about that record or doing justice for the community? let a jury decide, put the facts before them, they can agree or disagree. >> a quick point here. the mayor said this, i think there has been a lot of change, certainly at the nypd as a result of the eric garner death. pe people should remember that. his death did deal with a lot of change, interaction with the community change. the nypd as a result did change their training and how they interacted with the community.
there is some good that did come of this. it's of tough for the family and for the community. there has been some change and the nypd has done retraining, they've done certain things to try to make things better. >> we have an nypd that protects and serves us every day. i respect what they do, they keep us safe at cnn and hln and all over. when someone does wrong, they need to be held accountable. the fact he was not held criminally accountable was problem problematic to me and so many others. the trump administration making it official, the united states is pulling out of a decades-long nuclear treaty with russia by backing out of the inf. this latest move is now sparking renewed fears of a new arms race. secretary of state mike pompeo
putting the blame squarely on the russians. here's part of his tweet, "russia bares solzhenitsyn responsibili -- sole responsibility." my first question is how concerned are u.s. allies that this decision to pull out of the treaty will spark a new arms race and how much this much really is actually about china? >> well, there are two really interesting questions, brook. i think the europeans are concerned. we're talking about europe, we're talking about the deployment of missiles in europe to be used potentially against russia or to act as a deterrent or defense against russia and so the real concern becomes europe then is sort of i said, the u.ko ave both come out in strong
to leave this treaty, for the exact same reason that you heard or treaty is already redundant because for years the russians have not been acting in compliance with it. if it is already redundant, despite the best effort of allied leaders to try to get the russians to cooperate and hold up their end of the bargain, then what is the point continuing it? the back story, which you just alluded to, brooke, is indeed china in all this. china is not a member of the treaty. they have been building up over the years amassing intermediate range missiles. so essentially a lot of analysts are saying the real reason the u.s. wants to pull out of this treaty, while russia is the official reason, the real reason is the u.s. wants to be able to start testing their own intermediate range missiles and in order to do that, they need to leave the treaty.
the bottom line is, there are fierce this could reignite the sort of arms race that a lot of people thought was consigned to the history books. >> on russia we know president trump calls vladimir putin this past wednesday, obviously they have a lot to talk about but specifically obviously election meddling and that kind of thing, the inf treaty. they didn't talk about any of at that and instead they're on the phone apparently talking about fires in siberia caused by a climate crisis that this u.s. president doesn't even believe in. >> yes. it's hard to know exactly what the reason behind the call was. it's possible that president trump was trying to kind of reach across the aisle, if you will, in a gesture of goodwill. these forest fires inside siberia have been horrendous and
there are real concerns they're going to contribute even more to climate change. it's an odd choice, perhaps, for the president to reach out on this specific issue. but i think what we've often seen with the trump administration, brooke, is this kind of simultaneous good cop/bad cop. on the one hand i'm pulling out of this imf missile treaty, and on the other hand i'm calling about the fires to see if i can help up out at lot. some people call it mixed messages, others call it chaos. some sap it's a clever tactic designed to keep your add ver sayery off guard and prevent your own moves from being seen as predictable. >> okay. clarissa, thank you very much. independent going to finish there because i want to pivot to breaking news out of washington involving president trump's pick for the head of intelligence.
he wanted brad ratcliffe. >> the president had made this announcement last via tweet. the president announcing he is recalling that in essence saying that john ratcliffe, congressman of texas, will no longer be named. director the national intelligence. let me read tough the series of two tweets from the president he writes "our great republican congressman is being treated very unfairly by the lame stream media. rather than going through months of slander and libel, i
explained to john how miserable it would be for him and his family to deal with these people. john has therefore decided to stay in congress where he has done such an outstanding job representing the people of texas and our country. more than that, when you started digging into his bio, into his past, what he claimed as national security expertise was his time as a u.s. attorney in the eastern district of texas, right on his congressional page. he writes in his buy ie biothat bio that he put terrorists in prison. his office couldn't give us any examples of him being a prosecutor. on top of all that, he has spent years behind closed doors and congressional interviews with intelligence officials, as well
as repeated appearances on fox news blasting the intelligence community that he intended to lead. so for all sorts of reasons, it was a high lily questionable che not only being slammed by democrats on capitol hill but met with very tepid response as well by republicans as well. clearly the president saw that, heard that and knew he was going to have a real uphill battle in getting ratcliffe confirmed. >> thin resumé is one way to put it, alex. thank you so much. we're working on some of our sources to understand a little bit more to the context of all of this. pamela brown is also joining us. what are you hearing more about why he it this and why now? >> i think that the bigger story here is once again the president pulls a nomination for an official. this is coming after he has pulled the nominations for several other figurofficials, r
jackson, stephen moore, herman cain and now john ratcliffe of texas. and we're hearing that people were reaching out and letting them know about the concerns that he simply wasn't confirmable. normally before you nominate someone, that work would be done on the front end, making sure that you lay the groundwork and make sure that your allies, those on capitol hill -- >> vetting, homework. >> exactly. would be in line and that they would be receptive to a nominee. many republican senators were not happy with the pick. i was told for a time the white house had brushed off radclif e
ae clearly there was a m miscalculation made because both sides of the aisle shortly after he announced the nomination came out and expressed their concerns and now we have seen headline after headline of ratcliffe exaggerating his bio of prosecuting terrorism suspects, what alex pointed out. that should have been done before any announcement had been made and this raises more questions about the white house's vetting process. >> it's like the question we've been asking over and over, is there even a vetting process. let's just back up three steps. if you're not as familiar with the congressman's name, apparently president trump was looking according to our reporting was looking at him potentially as dni, pre-mueller
testimony. it was that moment when the congressman was really trying to take the former special counsel to task, alex and pamela, when he thought, huh, this could be my guy. >> i don't want to interrupt alex but i was told that basically ratcliffe was already the front-runner, was already being discussed even before the mueller hearing and i was told it was his to lose at that point. but clearly the congressman knew that the president was watching and he wanted to impress the president. so we are told that even though his name had been floated out there before for attorney general, some of his allies had been pushing for him, he wasn't really taking seriously as someone who would have a position in the administration until more recently when it was clear the president wanted to replace dan coats. and then of course the mueller
hearing came along and that sealed the deal for ratcliff, brooke. >> and can you just underscore how significant a role this is, how sensitive in terms of intelligence it is, you know, in the government and how it requires a thick resumé. >> yeah, to say the least. this is an incredibly important role. this is the senior most position in the government when it comes to intelligence. this was a position that was created after 9/11 because of this horrific terror attack, the likes of which of we had never seen in this country. so the five men who have held this position since then have had lengthy military experience, lengthy ambassadorial and diplomatic experience, a guy like dan coats, he had been ambassador of germany, a senator from indiana. he was a republican, he's close
to the vice president mike pence, but he knew this this job that he had to be apolitical. that the job of the intelligence community is to give unvarnished truth and speak that truth to power. you have gina haspel, they know they give that information so that the president can make his determination. it's clear ratcliffe has not been behaving in an apolitical way and there were questions whether he would be able to. when you look at that audition, when he was grilling mueller, that was kind of like the cherry on top because we know that --
>> solidified. >> he's been out there on fox news blasting the mueller probe, raising questionsthe intelligence community and their role in vetting that possible link between russia and the trump campaign. he was in lock step with the president every step of the way when it came to the russia probe. that's clearly something that the president liked both on fox news and during the mueller hearing so that's why we keep saying that this was an audition. but that very, very political stance that he took for so long was something that rubbed a lot of people in the intelligence community the wrong way. >> i appreciate both of you, if you can make it really quickly, pamela, go ahead. >> i was going to say now you have a situation where we don't know who is going to be the nominee to replace dan coats and they haven't announced the acting position and there are now two important positions open. >> let's move on.
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more breaking news this afternoon. american rapper a$ap rocky will soon be released from custody and is free to come home as he waits for the verdict in his assault case from a swedish judge. that ruling is expected to happen in the next couple of weeks. nina dos santos is reporting for us. what do we know about the latest development? >> reporter: all of this dates back to a street brawl that took brace plate on june the 30th. a$ap rocky was on the same street, passing by a burger joint with about five other members of his entourage and three of them appeared to get involved in an altercation with this 19-year-old individual after they claim they wereidual
and bruises. at one poi had seen a$ap rocky with a glass bottle and plenty of witness who claimed she'd seen this man being attacked with glass bottle dramatically withdrew that evidence and a$ap rocky and two members of his group have pled not guilty. the prosecutor has asked for six months in jail. the man who claimed he was attacked has asked for about $14,500 of compensation to compensate him for injuries he's claimed he sustained. this is a case that has captured the interest of the u.s. president donald trump, he's tweeted about it on various occasions and lobbied the swedish prime minister on the subject and he sent his own
hostage negotiator. now about ten minutes after the latest decision pending the verdict on august the 14th, donald trump tweeted this, as you can see there, a$ap rocky released from prison and on his way home from sweden. it was a rocky week. a$ap. we don't know whether or not a$ap rocky will be returning to the united states. you you'd. he hasn't been found guilty or not guilty but the verdicts will come on august the 14thle but he can go for now. >> nina, thank you for the breaking update. more on our two other stories he here. the president's choice for national director of intelligence has just withdrawn his name or the president has recalled it as scrutiny has piled on. plus a majority of house
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"while i am and will remain very grateful to the president for his intention to nominate me as director of information intelligence, i am withdrawing from consideration. i was humbled and honored that the president put his trust in me to lead our nation's intelligence operations and remain convinced that when confirmed i would have done owe with the objectivity, fairness and integrity that our intelligence agencies need and deserve. accordingly, he write, i have asked the president to nominate someone other than me." let's go to josh campbell. josh, this choice, congressman ratcliffe has been blasted for being too politicized. >> a lot of criticism there, brooke. we know the president is a fighter. whenever we see him backing down, it's usually a signal that
there's more of a story here. the two issues apply both to his experience and the politics of the issue. there are questions about his resumé we had reported on. he talked about his terrorism experience as a u.s. attorney and sending people to prison. when we asked his office for the names of people he sent to prison, he couldn't give them to us. this isn't a job you can learn on the job. this is a very powerful person that sits atop the 17 u.s. intelligence agencies so you need someone with that kind of experience. i think a little bit of vetting on the part of the white house probably could have unearthed all this but the work of good journalism. and the second is we know putting a politician in there of a particular party itself sends a signal. this is someone historically who has been critical of robert mueller and also when you go
back and look at the record, this is someone who was on the record talking about this fbi "deep state," this secret society of people working to undermine trump. when you look at theapolitical on anyone's side, itow when you someone so very powerful agency. >> so now here goes another acting position until they figure out who they want to fill as dni. josh campbell, thank you for your analysis on that. also today, another traj dim ge the kennedy family. it opens up a new discussion on all the public pain and tragedy they have experienced through the years. it's tough to quit smoking cold turkey.
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brutal and public heart break. saoirse kennedy hill is the granddaughter of robert f. kennedy. in statement, they say their hearts are shattered by the loss. >> reporter: we have gotten information that the jurisdiction of this case is resting with the chief medical examiner, that he has performed app autopsy, found no trauma to her body other than life-saving measures. now they're awaiting toxicology results. that will determine they say the cause and manner of their death. their family said not only their hearts are shattered but the love and joy and hope that she had within her is what made her. ethel kennedy say the world is not as beautiful today,
yesterday she said that on the afternoon of h we also know that she was a volunteer. she loved to help others, service was something that she was all about. she actually was helping to build schools for the indigenous populations in mexico. >> mm. so this is what you're learning. i cannot even imagine what this family is going trhrough. i want to big picture all of this. this summer already brings two somber anniversaries for the kennedy family. first, it's been 20 years sense john kennedy junior, his wife carolyn businessissette and her died in a plan crash and 50 years since mary jo died at
chappaquiddick. thank you so much for being with me. everyone is thinking you grieve with this family but tlouf throe years, this family and as a result the nation has grieved far too many times. >> it's so true, brooke. it's hard to believe. every time you think let's hope this is the last tragedy this family has to go through, there inevitably seems to be another. a young woman at 22 filled with so much promise lost. >> what did you learn about how the family copes not only with personal grief about with the inescapable public reaction? >> rose kennedy would have been the great grandmother of saoirse and she and i would say ethel
are among the strongest as far as their religious beliefs. they believe there's a life after this. they believe when life passes on they firmly believe they will see them. i went through rose's papers and when two of her grandsons were arrested for marijuana, she wrote to all the grandchildren, almost 30 of them, couldn't you lead a kennedy directive that would be an anti-drug campaign and her hopes were dashed when she realized this wasn't going to be the case. she tried as a woman born in 189 o, she tried to lead a good example. the family has had its problems with april diddiction sadly. >> they have. we'll talk more about this next hour. the majority of house democrats now supporting an impeachment inquiry. look at them all.
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we are back with breaking news. the president's pick for director of national intelligence has just withdrawn his name from consideration as questions of his experience piled up. with me former director of national intelligence james clapper. director clapper, thank you for calling in. this is your old job. your reaction? is this the right move? >> well, i think in the good news department, i'm sure that
there's, you know, sighs of relief around the intelligence community with the revelations about embellishments of his background and his resumé, which was thin groulx for the job to start with. i think that's a good thing. i think a couple of things are kind of hanging out there. one is the president's earlier comment about an announcement on appointing an acting director, which bothered a lot of people in the intelligence community because the law stipulates that the principal deputy, sue gordon, a career law enforcement officers who is now the principal deputy would be freed up so that's a concern. and the president has
telegraphed the kind of person he wants to find to corral the, quote, run amuck intelligence community and replace the confused dan coats and neither of those conditions, by the way, are true. >> well, i think to your second point, can you just remind people why this position, this nomination, is so incredibly crucial, especially right now, especially given that we listened to the robert mueller testimony that said russia is meddling as we sit here and we know how the president seems to think about russian election interference. >> there are two factors i would mention briefly as the importance of the job. one is the plethora of threats that we confront today, not the least of which is russia and their continued interference and attempts to undermine our political processes, which of course the president is very
skeptical about and doesn't really take seriously. the other thing is it's a pretty complex job. you got tens of thousands of people and the components of intelligence community spread all over the planet in very hazardous, risky conditions. just the process of running the enterprise of the intelligence community is quite formidable. i spent about 50 years in the intel profession and serving for dni for almost six and a half years is the hardest thing i ever tried do. it's very difficult if you know something about intelligence. if you don't, it's virtually impossible. >> james clapper, thank you very much, former dni. pleasure to have you on and pick your brain given your expertise. >> as a new york police department judge has recommended a new punishment for the officer involved in the death of eric garner.
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this week's series "the movies" that features classic films from the 1960s. >> in "cool hand luke" newman is a figure of the counterculture movement, rebelling against the authorities. >> he's just going to knock you down again, buddy. >> circumstance hasn't made luke a criminal. it's almost his choice. >> stay down. you're going to have to kill me. >> or his refusal to do what's expected of him.
>> don't you ever talk that way to me. >> the warden is played by struter martin. it's one of the great ten lines in movies. >> what we've got here is failure to communicate. >> and it really feels like a 60s line, where in one moment kids and adults could see the generation gap and see each other on the other side. >> sorry, luke. just doing my job. got to appreciate that. >> calling it a job don't make it rice, boss. >> the "movies" airs sunday night at 9:00 from "psycho" to "dr. strange love." get the stories behind the scen scenes. i'm brooke baldwin, thank you for being here. the man chosen by president
trump chosen to be the next director has withdrawn his name. the president claims ratcliffe wasn't given a fair shake by the media. the truth, congressman ratcliffe was probably headed for a rocky nomination. alex mar alex marquardt is with me. why did he withdraw his name? >> his name came to surface last sunday when president trump said he would be nominating the three-term texas congressman to the post of director of national intelligence. at the time a lot of people say who? the men who have held this role since 9/11 when the position was created are people who have had deep foreign policy and