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the screen? >> the presidential bug continued its trek across the commander in chief's forehead and reseeded into the hairline, the kind of buzz no politician wants, but even president trump can't accuse anyone of planting this bug. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> thank you for joining us. anderson starts now. good evening. if you feel like you've been drying to drink from a fire hose with the news lately, you're not alone. peter baker is also feeling it quoting from his tweet this afternoon, just a day in the trump white house, reagan treaty terminated, spy chief nominee polled, north korea given pass for illegal missile launches, rapper freed in sweden, trump signs deficit spending bill and top deficit fired and it's not even 3:00 p.m. yet.
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be we begin keeping them honest, a very important job beiing pulle from consideration, john ratcliff nomination for intelligence and the acts fell on twitter that's fitting because that's where president trump named him as the pick. our great republican congressman john ratcliff is being treated very unfairly by the lame stream media rather than going through months of slander, i explained to john how miserable it would be for him and his family to deal with these people. john is therefore decided to stay in congress where he's done an outstanding job representing the people of texas, and our country. i will be announcing my nomination for dni shortly. the president wants you to believe his candidate is perfect for the job, totally qualified. it's just the awful mean reporters will be tough on him and they will slander and liable him and he repeated that argument on his way to his country club in new jersey.
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>> i felt that congressman ratcliff was being treated very unfairly. i was reading the press, and i think i am a student of the press, and i could see that the press was treating him i thought very unfairly. he's an outstanding man. i asked him, do you want to go through this for two or three months or maybe do something else? and he thought about it. i said it's going to be rough. i could see exactly where the press is going, and fake news. he's a fine man. he's a fine man, and so we hadn't started the process. i thought it's easier before we start but i read things that were just unfair, and he's just too good. he doesn't deserve it. >> he's just making it up as he goes along and when he pauses, he throws in the fake news because he needed a second thoing aboto
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think about what else to say. this is the old blame the media game. the oldest, blalamest game in t book. he's so good he can't stand up to reporters looking in the background and claims he made which okay, seem to be false. by the way, cnn sources who have spoken with the president say he has in recent days actually privately voiced concern about congressman ratcliff's confirm account. the congressman has limited intelligence in the field, that was well-known. six months on the committee has no experience whatsoever at any of the agaencies he would be overseeing. he did serve 14 months as a u.s. attorney back in texas but what may have been an even bigger factor in the pull back or as we mentioned, serious doubts surrounding claims that congress himself has made about his own past. he says he put terrorists in prison, a cnn search of terror-related cases fails to show any the congressman himself actually prosecuted.
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obviously, one goes to his office and says okay, can you give us examples? his office failed to offer any examples of evidence. he also claims on his congressional biography and you can see it there that he quote arrested 300 illegal aliens, his words in a single day. in fact, the what he's referring to but doesn't mention, he's referring to is a multi state operation not the work of some lone u.s. attorney on the boarder arresting folks, a multi state operation that resulted in 45 undocumented workers being charged by his office, six of whom had their cases dismissed. quoting now from a vereseventh washington post investigation. a spokeswoman in an el paso office that participated in the operation questioned ratcliff's operation in the role of the arrest quoting that spokesperson from i.c.e., no, that doesn't sound factual. that sounds incorrect she told "the washington post." in fact, she said she doesn't even remember the congressman
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saying quote, name doesn't ring a bell. clearly, fine man as the president describes him or not, this was a nominee with problems for one of the most important joh jobs to the safety and security of the country. they were all notable problems, the kind that usually come out during a thorough vetting that a position like this demands. you vet the candidate. according to cnn's jim acosta that is what congress mman ratcliff did not get, a vetting. some kind of vetting was done when he was previously considered for attorney general but not enough. the president was asked about vetting today on the south lawn and you got to listen to his answer. i mean, as you listen to it, think about the president's prior remarks about how unfair he thinks the press is for investigating this and revealing those unsettling facts about his now former nominee. >> well now you vet for me. i like when you vet. no, no, you vet.
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i think the white house has a great vetting process. you vet for me. when i give a name, i give it out to the press and you vet for me. a lot of times you do a very good job, not always. i think the white -- well, if you look at it, i mean, if you take a look at it, the vetting process for the white house is very good but you're part of the vetting process, you know? i give out a name to the press and they vet for me. we save a lot of money that way. >> and there it is, there it is, folks. one minute reporters, fake news, slandering a darn good man. the next, we're have very good part in fact saving the country money. they don't have to do their jobs vetting, we do it. we are now so through the looking glass, ladies and gentlemen, it's amazing because without even realizing it, if the president is given the chance to speak long enough, he often lets slip how he really thinks about stuff and he reveals that what he has just said previously sometimes just
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seconds before is just complete b.s. i know it's not like many of you don't already know this, but there are just so many examples of him saying one thing over and over and over again that are then revealed to be just wishful thinking or just made up. remember the best people pledge? >> we're going to make america great again. we're going to use our best people. i'm going to get the best people. we're going to deliver. we're going to get the best people in the world. we don't want people that are b level, c level, d level. we're going to get the absolute best. we're going to use the smartest and best. we're not using political hacks. it's a sophisticated chess match. i have people lined up. you need people that are truly, truly capable. we have to get the best people. >> the best people, folks that don't lie about their resume and stuff like that. patrick shanahan might have been the defense secretary. two failed picks for the federal
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reserve. steven moore and hermann cane are named in an unnamed for u.n. ambassador and ronny jackson, the would be v.a. secretary who went down in flames labor secretary pick and two would be i.c.e. directors, two picks for secretary of the army. the list as you see goes on and on. there are so many people who are just in acting roles because they don't actually have full-time people who have actually been confirmed, which is not to say the prior administrations haven't had vetting failures and failed nominations before. they certainly have. not everyone close to this many. never happened before what is new unprecedented in the case of top national security officials frank frankly dangerous is for a president to pay little attention to vetting his nominee or toss it off with a flip remark. >> you're part of the vetting prs soe process, you know. i give a name to the press and they vet for me. we save a lot of money that way. >> you're welcome. more on all this now from abby
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phillip who joins us from the white house. i understand, abby, the president was surprised when ratcliff started facing growing concerns from democrats but from those within his own party. >> reporter: yeah, and the change for the president was only five days in the making, but over the last several days according to people who have spoken with him, he was surprised to find that republicans didn't really have a lot of great things to say about ratcliff. he had been assured by his allies ratcliff would have support he would be an easy confirmation process, and that just turned out to not be very true and the days after he was named, many republicans could only simply say they didn't know anything about him and the president became a little concerned that this confirmation was not going to be what he had been told it would be by his friends and allies. >> i mean, during the mueller hearings, ratcliff clearly didn't even ask mueller a question, he used his five minutes to make a very passiona resume reel for the president of
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just defending the president. it's certainly the kind of thing the president likes and shortly after that that he was, you know, raised up to be nominated for this position. what kind of vetting, if any, do we know did the white house do before the president's announcement? >> well, that audition of sorts ingratuated himself in the president's eyes but for democrats, it became evidence how he couldn't actually do the job in an impartial way. the president was interested in ratcliff for a long time considering him to be the attorney general for example. but they apparently did not spend very much time looking at the basic information that was available on the internet. for example, on ratcliff's own campaign website, a lot of claims that were then fact checked by media outlets were on that very website. they are on there today, and the white house apparently didn't even look at them. so the vetting process here has never been particularly great, but everyone that basic step apparently wasn't taken, anderson, and president trump
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seems to be content with relying on the media to do the job of the white house for him. >> abby phillip, thank you very much. appreciate it. joining us is senior fbi intelligence advisor phil mud. i don't know what to ask you. when you looked at ratcliff doing that audition tape, his five-minute addition tape during the mueller hearings, i thought this is clearly somebody who, you know, is just sending a message to the president. does it surprise you that they wouldn't even in whatever vetting they did and i don't think they did any they would have figured out that the resume online is not accurate? >> boy, i mean, you remember ronny jackson, he gives the president the bill of health and don't do a vetting process and it turns out to be a disaster. let me be serious. you can joke all day. it does because some of the pieces are basic. i went through a vetting process once at the white house. it's very difficult.
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the hard part is you got to go in financial records. the media can't deny financial records from someone who is a nominee. you can have person conversations about things like nanny taxes and order the fbi to get a records check. that's not the media's responsibility. further more, you media doing that. you have a liaison office that deals with the congress. all the president has to do before he says anything is ask them to go over the congress and say what is this guy's reputation? ki find enemies. will we have a problem before we go down the road. it wasn't hard. all he had to do is pick up the phone. >> that's the other thing. if the idea that the president was surprised to hear from people on capitol hill that they didn't know anything about this guy, you know, that's the kind of thing, again, with a few phone calls before you second o a tweet nominating somebody, you think there must be somebody in the white house that can call
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around to their allies on capitol hill. >> sure th, the president sort suggested that did that too late in the game. after the white house did a head count on capitol hill and capitol hill said mr. mudd has a problem. the president indicated that he didn't do the vetting process because clearly what happened is people on the hill after the process, after the person was announced came to the president and said, not so much. the way this game works is the president any president typically doesn't tell a nominee to withdraw because it's embarrassing. what the president said today is what every president does, wink, wink, this will be really tough. if you want, i'll allow you to withdraw the nomination saying get out. this will be ugly. >> it is how the presidencys the sees the position of reporters and national intelligence. he's not hiding the fact he wants people devoted and you
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seem to be depending the above and beyond around and. a guy in this incredibly important position. >> the president's playing checkers. he's not playing chess. he set up the next nominee. what's the first question for anybody on the committee, for whoever shows up john doe, jane doe, the president said this in front of reporters about his belief director mueller was appropriately cau lly cautionin about russian interference and the intelligence committee or decide with the president publicly. the president gave the democrats a gift because they force him to go with them. >> next, the departure of the one of the republican party's
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young hopefuls and the only african american in the house. we'll talk about the role trump fatigue played with another republican who also chose to leave congress and later, in light of our conversation with mary williamson, we're putting more of her past statements to the test. we'll be right back. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase relieves your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances. most pills only block one.
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exclamation mark. the baltimore house of elijah cummings was robbed. other attacks on the congressman and city he represents the message would read different they than many today. i would seem as taunting, thuggish and if anything should happen to it. when the president was asked about it today, here is how he explained it. >> the tweet itself was just really a repeat of what i heard over the news. i know his house was robbed and i thought that was too bad. that was really just -- that was really not meant as a wise guy tweet. his house was robbed and it came over the news at a certain moment last night and i had just -- >> he's suggesting there is no other way to see it than him showing compassion and sympathy for the congressman. this tweet came after a dozen others calling the congressman corrupt, inept and a bully
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saying no human being would want to live in the parts of baltimore he represents and came after preetrepeated attacks on congressmen of color. do you think president trump was wishing the congressman well, the man he poured hate on for days. the only african american in the house will heard announced he's leaving congress, it was considered one of the rising stars so certainly came as a blow. he spoke about it with the washington post and during the interview, he took issue with the president's attacks and cnn jim accoosta said a huge loss a the fundraiser putting it bluntly to jim, they are all tired of trying to defend the s-show. using a word i'm not going to use right now. joining us now another former republican congressman charlie dent of pennsylvania cnn political commentator joins us. congressman dent, this can't be welcome news for republicans give than heard's district is a target for democrats.
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>> yeah, will heard, the loss of will heard is devastating to republicans. not only does he represent a swing or marginal district but this seat is gone for the republicans:it's really a shame. what's worse is that will of course, is the future of the republican party. so it's in that respect you have to multiply this thing. it's that bad. and if republican haves any hope at all of trying to pick up seats in the midterm, they have to hold seats like this one. but will heard is a good froeie. he's clearly frustrated and tired of explaining the inexplicable and indefensible and won't do it. he's the only republican member of the house and had enough of it. it's clear to me, he's a bright guy. he can do other things and why deal with this for the next 15 months answering these types of crazy issues that the president raises on a daily basis. >> it's interesting because john, we had congressman heard on the program many times
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particularly on boarder and he's a very fashirational voice on br security and border issues and, you know, certainly more i guess would categorize himself as a more moderate wing of the republican party but certainly not somebody who, you know, is a flame thrower and not open to compromise and actually working across the isle. >> well, i'll tell you what, will heard was the best most rational voice on boarder issues for republicans. there is a border issue and immigration, as well as anybody. he was someone members listen to. cybersecurity, artificial intelligence on a policy level this is an enormous loss for the republican party and i'm so disappointed. in fact, will heard is one of three house republicans who represents a district that hillary clinton won in 2020, brian fitzpatrick and john catco
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being the other two. environments and texas by the way is not going well for president trump. he's significantly under performing in the polls and there are at least three other seats in that state that republicans hold which are very vulnerable. >> we mentioned the house fundraiser put the blame on president trump saying they are tired of trying to defend the s-show. as someone like yourself that did retire partly due to the president's rhetoric, can you relate to the decision he's made? >> absolutely. i mean, i felt the same way in 2018. i really didn't want to have to spend all of 2018 like i spent in 2016 just talking about president trump and his conduct in office. i mean, poor will heard, i got to tell you people ask me all the time do i miss it? my answer is i do not miss the circus, but i do miss the clowns and i'll tell ya, anderson, it's -- you make a lot of really good friends but at some point when you're not getting anything done, the most basic tasks of
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governing become nearly impossible at times and it hard to focus on the policy and will hurd is a policy guy. he likes diving into -- security and dreamers. he fell a little short. he got a little frustrated when you can't address the policy issues you're elected to fight for as a congressman. >> congressman, appreciate your time. coming up, a democrat who wasn't on the debate stage this week but hoping to be on it the next month. my conversation with tom steyer, the impeachment focused candidate next. i've been diagnosed with age-related macular degeneration, which could lead to vision loss. so today i made a plan with my doctor,
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to get on the next democratic debate stage new houston, fundraisers have to meet polling thresholds, certainly wants to be next in california is billionaire tom steyer. he declared his presidential candidacy after months of television campaigning to impeach president trump and saying initially he wouldn't be running himself. i spoke with mr. steyer before air time. mr. steyer, you saw the democratic debates this week i
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assume. the candidates on the stage did spend a lot of time going after each other instead of taking on president trump. i'm wondering does that strategy weaken the eventual nominee and lead to president trump winning? did you make of it? >> well, anderson, my argument all along has been that we have a broken government and that we need to return that government from the corporations who bought it to the american people. so when i listened to those debates, what i'm listening for is somebody that will practically tell me how we're going to do that so we'll be able to deliver those promises people are making about health care and green new deal and education and i didn't hear that vision of how we're going to deliver for the american people in reality during those debates. i did hear a lot of criticism on each other and of president obama. >> when you hear candidates talk about taking away private insurance from 160 million
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americans, is that something you think democrats can win on? >> anderson, i do believe that health care is a right for every american and that we should have a public option that is available to every american citizen. but the idea of telling 150 million americans who get their health care through their employment that they don't have a choice but to do what the government tells them about their health and life, doesn't seem to make any sense to me. i mean, this is still a free country. what we should do is make the public option so attractive and so relatively inexpensive that people petition their employers that go on the public option and get a big raise as a result of the public employer no longer paying for health care. >> will you be on the stage at the next debate? will you be able to get there? >> yes, yes, i am. >> what is the at the tstatus o? >> i'm not following it day to day but i know there are two requirement, anderson.
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one is to have four polls at a certain level and within two weeks, we had two of those four and we'll see some more polls come out this week. but so far, my message seems to beceived better than i hoped so we'll see how the polls go but better than expected and if we keep going at the level in terms of donations that we're at, we'll make it there, as well. we have to do work. we're not going to stop working but we're on track to make it. >> would you -- obviously, you thought about i assume when you watch the debate, you imagine yourself on them and think what would my strategy be here? where would you -- where do you see yourself in this field? i mean, if you believe in a spectrum of a left progressives and scentrists, where do you se yourself? >> anderson, my basic thesis here is that we need to retake government for the people of the united states, return government of by and for the people.
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i see myself for what i am, which is for the last ten years, i'm the outsider whose been organizing collisions of ordinary american citizens to power and winning and that's exactly how i see myself in this field. i'm the guy whose done direct democracy for ten years and beaten the oil companies and the drug companies and tobacco companies and did the longest youth voter mobilization, the largest grass roots organization in the united states. >> just lastly, impeaching president trump obviously was your signature issue. it's what brought you to a lot of people's attention running. there is a majority of democrats in the house that favor impeachment. speaker pelosi doesn't seem to be on board saying in a statement today, putting in a statement that highlighted the on going litigation against the president declaring he will be held accountable. if she isn't on board after reaching that critical benchmark, do you think she ever will be?
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>> i don't know. what i do know, anderson, is this, almost two years ago, i said this is the most corrupt president in american history. we need to stand up for what is right. we need to stand up for the contusion and the rule of law and we need to protect the american people. i started to push on a grass roots level to get americans to sign a petition. we have over 8 million who have to say the american people know what is right. what the difference between right and wrong. i've been saying the government is broken for two years as an outsider, i've been trying to organize a grass roots effort u right in america. i'm still pushing for it. we haven't gotten it done because washington refuses to bring the american people into this. we've televised hearings. i asked peaker speaker pelosi l the vacation and get it done on tv and i don't think that's going to happen. >> tom steyer, appreciate your
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on the program last night my
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interview with marianne williamson became contentious when it came to her views of people taking antidepressant medication. you say feds say one in ten americans on antidepressants, not a good sign, not a time for any of us to be numbing pain. if you're on an antidepressant, you're not numbing your pain but trying to feel again, no? >> some people would argue that, some people not. the issue is the difference between normal human despair and if you're going through something like grief for instance. >> that's normal. you write eloquently about normal universal sadness. >> when people are taking an antidepressants who have had serious, serious pain and serious depression in their lives and they are helped by them, i'm happy for them. >> yes, i believe that. >> i'm happy for them. when i meet young people and i meet them all the time, once
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again, i'm the one here who has had a lot of experience with people in pain. >> sure. >> when i meet -- >> i just don't think telling people it will numb them is a good idea. >> oh, well, that's your belief. >> tonight, williamson's campaign released a statement which reads in part williamson is speaking as a concerned citizen and presidential candidate, she stays in her lane and does not weigh in on the dig notice of any individual regarding medical or health condition. randi kaye is looking at williamson's past statements on depression and vaccines. here is randi's report. >> i've lived through periods of time by any means today would be called clinical depression but even that's a scam. all it means somebody in a clinic said it. there is no blood test. >> reporter: marianne williamson last year suggesting clinical depression isn't a real thing. she verecently told "the new yo times" she regretted saying that
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suggesting her issue is not the use of anti-depressants but the over prescribing of them. last night on this program she again tried the explain. >> we have over the last few years taken this kind of cheap yellow smiley face, put it over emotion like happy, happy, happy. we have lost our sense there are times when sadness is part of life. >> reporter: in public posts, williamson suggested without evidence that antidepressants may be harmful and lead to suicide. the day designer kate spade took her life, williamson blamed antidepressants and after actor robin williams' death, the truth about antidepressions, helpful for some, hurtful for others suggesting they played a role in his suicide. >> it was written by the church of scientology that doesn't belief in medicine even for serious mental illness.
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>> anderson, if somebody is helped by antidepression sanlt, i'm happy for them. >> it worries me you seem to be sending a message raising such concerns in such a blanket way or critic kri clinical depressi saying you're happy for somebody if it helps them. i don't hear you saying i encourage everybody to talk with a medical provider and see if this is just a regular sadness that's understandable or -- >> well, but i -- what i would say, i'm sorry. someone who is a spiritual person is just as qualified an expert to talk about issues of deep sadness even depression. it is only been in the last few years that this idea of the medicalization of depression has come up. >> williamson is under fire for her comments about vaccines, too. at an event in new hampshire, she called mandatory vaccinations names and likened it to the abortion debate saying
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the u.s. government doesn't tell any citizen what they have to do with their body or their child. later she apologized telling the "l.a. times" i understand many vaccines are important and save lives and i understand some of the skepticism that abounds today about drugs rushed to market by big pharma. she told "the view" she does not consider herself an anti vaccer. >> do you support mandatory vaccinations? >> i understand that public safety coals first but we must have a balance between public safety and individual freedom. i do not trust the propaganda. >> in the end, williamson didn't directly answer the question about supporting hamandatory vaccinations only saying she supported vaccinations. randi kaye, cnn, new york. i want to check in with chris and see what he's working
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on for cuomo prime time. >> i gave this a lot of thought last night, coop. i was watching the whole spectrum of reactions to your interview with her, which by the way, i have to say. i've done a lot of those interviews. you care so much about this issue for all the right reasons and forget about our personal connections to it. you were respectful but you can't let it go when somebody is confusing emotion and illness. let's be careful about the facts. you can't equivocate. it's one of the biggest die noses of the country depression and you mess with people taking medication and stigmatize it, the rate goes up, the suicide rate goes up. you have to take it seriously. vaccinations is an entirely different issue and different than talking about mental health. you did the right thing. it's right to do the piece. >> i was sorry she felt i was disrespectful and didn't have enough time. we went on for 14 minutes because i think it's an important issue and i wanted to give her time to clarify everything but i certainly hope to have her back. i also think, you know, she talks about over prescription
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being an issue and i totally agree with that and people especially young people aware of possibly very dangerous deadly side effects of some medications and all that is valid, but i just -- >> no question. >> the word she used could have been -- >> you're 100% right on that and i think marry ann knows that. she's in a different position than she's familiar with where there is an accountability for what she says, people aren't as open minded of things because the social direction from our leaders matters differently than someone who is a provaccer of thought. when it comes to anti-depressants, if anything, that drug is under prescribed and if you talk to experts about this, they are worried when people push back on medications, it makes people who need helpless likely to get it and increases sigma. >> with depression, it makes you not want to reach and feels like reaching out to a medical provider and self-help guru or priest, it feels overwhelming
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and the problem is more people not reaching out. anyway, got to leave it there. we'll have a lot more with you chris, in 15 minutes of your show. we'll see you then. another of those headlines peter baker tweeted about the white house pulling out of a nuclear treaty. fareed zakaria will join us with the significant context. about 50% of people with severe asthma have too many cells called eosinophils in their lungs. eosinophils are a key cause of severe asthma. fasenra is designed to target and remove these cells. fasenra is an add-on injection for people 12 and up with asthma driven by eosinophils. fasenra is not a rescue medicine or for other eosinophilic conditions. fasenra is proven to help prevent severe asthma attacks, improve breathing, and can lower oral steroid use. fasenra may cause allergic reactions. get help right away if you have swelling of your face, mouth, and tongue, or trouble breathing.
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president trump has pulled the united states out of a treaty on nuclear weapons with russia. this brings an end to the intermediate range forces treaty signed by president ronald reagan in 1997 as they worked to end the cold war between the two nuclear powers. secretary of state mike pompeo is putting the blame on the russians. and a senior u.s. official says the trump administration has
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plans to test a missile banned under the treaty within the next few weeks. here's what president trump had to say that afternoon. >> they're not going to live up to their commitment, then we have to -- we always have to be in the lead. i've redone our nuclear, we have new nuclear coming. i hate to tell that to people. i hate to say it, because it's devastating. but we've always got to be in the lead. hopefully and -- and hope to god you never have to use it. >> joining me now is fareed zakaria. is the president right. he says the president is pulling out of the inf agreement. is he right? >> the president is right. russia has been violating the agreement for a long time. there have been repeated efforts to reengage with them under the
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last administration. it's certainly fair to say that the russians have been violating it. why should the u.s. be bound by those limits. but the real story, anderson, might be this is more about china than russia. china is developing the world's most sophisticated set of missiles. they are not covered by the treaty. they do not seem to want to be covered by a treaty. part of what's going on here is the united states doesn't want to be bound by a treaty that russia is not adhering to and china is not party to. >> what do you make of the president's hope for a pact between both russia and china? >> that is the ideal situation going forward. china is going to be building up its arsenal not just of nuclear weapons but of missiles. russia has a huge one. and ideally you would want some kind of treaty that would lock
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both countries in. certainly the russians and the chinese. right now the president is focused on trade, has a very hostile relationship with china. it doesn't seem likely. with russia right now, congress is unlikely to do much. so the prospects for some kind of big arms control treaty in the trump administration may seem low, but it's important to realize, these are the weapons that can destroy all the countries we're talking about. these are the existential weapons that threaten, you know, the survival of mankind. >> a russian politician cautioned that if the u.s. deploys short-term missiles, moscow would have to adopt a doctrine of preemptive strikes which would increase the risk for sparking a nuclear exchange. >> this takes us back to the days of the cold war. this is exactly why these weapons were so destabilizing
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because they had short ranges, they moved fast. there wasn't enough time to verify. the logic had to be the minute you saw them launch or you detected a launch, you launched yours and that's the kind of thing that accidents are made of. that's the kind of thing miscalculations are made of and the problem here of course is that the stakes are very high. if a nuclear accident goes off by accident or miscalculation, the damage is all too real. >> the other concern about nuclear weapons is north korea. they've tested short-range missiles again this week. president trump tweeting in part, quote, i may be wrong, but i believe that chairman kim has a great and beautiful vision for his country and only the united states with me as president can make that vision come true. he will do the right thing because he is far too smart not to and he does not want to disappoint his friend, president trump. sort of interesting or odd.
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>> it's very strange. i've always thought with kim jong-un president trump believes this is his path to a nobel peace prize. that's why he scared the daylights out of everyone over end to that threat. the north koreans are not accommodating. they're not playing to the script. they are not, you know, negotiating inn earnest. but trump doesn't give up. he still -- he sends the love letters. the girl has said no three times and he's still asking. >> fareed zakaria, thanks very much. >> don't miss the special, state of hate, the explosion of white supremacy. up next another heartbreak for the kennedy family. what authorities are saying
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beloved saoirse. authorities have not announced a cause of death. we do know that she struggled with depression. in 2016 she wrote about it bravely. she said my depression took root in my middle school years and will be with me for the rest of my life. i suffered bouts of deep sadness that felt like a heavy boulder on my chest. it's not clear what caused her death. our condolences to the kennedy family. saoirse kennedy was just 22 years old. i want to hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time.." >> welcome to "prime time." a majority of house democrats now support an impeachment inquiry. some of the biggest voices in that party are not on board and we have one here tonight, congressman gregory meeks, still
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