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>> yep. >> he had gone to the fair grounds to have a good time. i should mention this also. the attorney for brockway, the suspec suspect, said his client has problems with brain injury and maintaining self control. get this, he says brockway takes the rhetoric of president trump literally and dislikes people d disrespecting the flag. >> words matter, sara sidner, thank you. you're watching cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. new reporting about the suspect in this weekend's mass shooting in el paso. we'll get to those details in a second. first a glimpse into what the president said to first responders behind closed doors
during his visit to a hospital. while 22 families were planning funera funerals, the president of the united states said this to a room of emergency workers. >> i was here three months ago, we made a speech. what was the name of the arena? >> the coliseum. >> packed. the judge is a respected guy and what was the name? that was some crowd. >> thank you for all you're doing. >> we had twice the number outside. and then you had crazy beto, beto had 400 people in a parking lot. they said his crowd was wonderful. >> you heard him, just think young men, women, children trying to heal in hospital beds feet away from him. and he wanted to talk about himself and the crowd size at a rally. monday when the president addressed the nation in a prepared teleprompter speech he called for political unity, but
in the past four days the president has attacked or insulted at least a dozen people or groups using twitter or a microphone. and he couldn't stop himself from launching an insult at 35,000 feet using twitter against the former vice president, ripping media coverage and turning the attention back to himself. let's start with kaitlan collins. you have some information on how the trump aides are viewing the visit. >> a couple of trump aides were coming out defending him saying local officials were mischaracterizing what happened behind closed doors when cameras were not in there, because the white house said they would not let reporters into the hospital while the president was visiting
with patients and their medical staff. now we're learning that behind the scenes not everyone back here at the white house thinks that visit was as successful as they were claiming publicly that it was. they are conceding the president's behavior was not what they were hoping for when the president was trying to strike this tone of being consoler in chief. they thought he spent too much time lashing out at local officials after he left ohio and was on his way to texas. and the president was fuming not just about the coverage of that trip but at his own aides because they didn't let the cameras into the hospitals where the president was visiting with those patients and medical staff. we saw a bit of that on the video where he's talking about crowd sizes. officials defended not letting them come in because it's out of respect for the patients in the hospital. but the president was saying he didn't feel like he was getting enough coverage or credit for his trip there and for his response. so what we're being told is that the president spent that plane ride back from el paso, texas
fuming about the response to that trip. but behind the scenes his aides do not think from the administration's viewpoint that it was a successful trip at all. >> ed lavandera is in el paso again today. you were there yesterday, you were in the thick of it as the president was there, visiting with victims and first responders. what's your response to hearing now that trump aides maybe think the visit wasn't so well received? >> we had a sense it would be an awkwa awkward, tense visit on some levels. we heard a mixed back from victims and family members that we've been speaking with. remember, all of these patients are being cared for at two different hospitals. the president only visited one of the hospitals. there was kind of a mixed bag. i spoke with two men who were survivors, they rushed to the scene to help rescue members of that youth soccer team, those
children hiding under a car in the parking lot. they told me they welcomed the president's visit, and they hoped that by speaking to them there would be a message of unity for the president and for people seeing that. we also heard from a number of others who say they refused to meet with the president. the family of michelle grady, the woman who was shot and wounded three times outside the entrance to the walmart. she is undergoing a three or four-hour surgery today. her family said they had no interest in meeting with the president. we heard that from several other people as well. clearly not everybody inside that hospital was anxious to get facetime with the president yesterday. >> i want to -- back to his behavior, kaitlan, it's just wrong. if don't call it out his behavior is normalized. in addition to an insult-filed week after calling for unity, that was monday afternoon, he
brings up crowd size at the hospital. >> yeah. something that wasn't much of a surprise to people who know the president well or pay attention to his past remarks. that's often something the president talks about. when he thinks of el paso, he associates it with that february rally that i was at where the big story of that day was the showdown between the president and beto o'rourke. that is on his mind when going to el paso. that's what he associates el paso with, along with that argument for the border wall. it's something he brought up. in that video you can't tell what the response is. then the president starts talking about taking videos and photos with the people he's speaking with at that hospital. this is a question about why the president is mentioning crowd sizes while visiting with these two cities, these two cities still in mourning. certainly as ed noted, there were people there happy to see the president. as we saw in dayton, ohio, just in front of that bar where the nine people were gunned down over the weekend, there were people who did not want the president there, in addition to his supporters going back and forth. that was a big takeaway for the
day. typically after a mass shooting you're not seeing this controversy over the president's visit. that's something you saw on the streets of date e dayton and el where some people did not want the president there and others thought it was fine for the commander in chief to come. >> i was talking to tara last hour, and she was talking about the wars overseas with president bush, ed, that president george w. bush was at walter reid, he was speaking with a soldier who was, you know, pretty badly injured. there was a mother who was really angry at the president, right? according to the story, president bush stood there and took it. he let this mother -- she litd into him. when they were boarding -- it was dana perino's story, when
they were boarding air force one, she said wow, that mama was mad at me, right? the point of the story was that was a president -- you can think of several on both sides of the aisle, who knew something god awful had happened to -- whether it's a soldier or a child in el paso, and he took it. he took it. he didn't insult others or brag about crowd size, ed. >> you know, really when you consider the scene inside of that hospital, this is just four days after this massacre where you have had emergency teams working around-the-clock, people literally hanging on and fighting for their lives. there is one man who is going through extensive surgeries, still in critical condition. the family of michelle grady that i told you about, she's undergoing a four to five-hour surgery today. these are doctors and medical professionals who are taking this personally.
they say, you know, they don't want to lose anymore. so they're in the care of these hospital professionals. they're doing what they can. that is first and foremost on their minds and you're dealing with a situation that's raw. these people have extensive, gruesome wounds. in some cases they're see dated. they are in medically induced comas. whatever the case might be. these are people and families that are watching their loved ones hang on for their dear lives. >> yeah. ed, thank you very much for covering these men and women and shining a light on el paso and kaitlan, i'm glad we were there in dayton this week. thank you very much. some calls for gun reform are growing louder after the shootings in both of those cities. tim ryan and moms demand action are leading a caravan of protests today. their destination is the kentucky office of mitch mcconnell.
so they hit the road in ohio early this morning. they stopped off in cincinnati. christine woodward is joining me now, the ohio chapter leader of moms demand action. christine, thank you very much for coming on. i said a quick hello to you in dayton yesterday. it's my honor to have you on. this weekend's shootings became the 15th and 16th shootings in 2019 involving the deaths of four or more people. why do you think these events -- why this time might this muput more pressure on leader mcconnell to do something? >> i just think, brooke, it's an accumulation of these events on top of one another and people have had it. moms demand action has been on the ground working on this issue for five years. we built an infrastructure and the tools that people can use. so this time when these events
happened, there's something for people to reach out to. there's somewhere for them to go. we can bring them into our organization and put them to work tomorrow, today on gun violence prevention. i think that amplifies all of our voices. >> it seems that in the aftermath of any of these tragedies, you know, the calls to write elected officials grows louder. what do you say to someone who made the phone calls, written all the letters, and feels hopeless? >> i have been that person from time to time. it's easy to feel hopeless. we don't see things changing, changes ing as fast as we would like hem to. things are moving. there's a ground swell of voices calling for things to change. we've had a lot of successes with moms demand action at the state level the past few years. when we turned the house of representatives in 2018, we were able to get a background check bill passed at the federal level
for the first time since the manchin/toomey bill. that bill is sitting on mcconnell's desk waiting for a vote. >> you mentioned background checks. the "washington post" reported after president trump publicly expressed for book ground chiefs that wayne lapierre called the president to tell him it would not be popular among trump supporters. i'm curious if you think in your five years with moms, do you think the nra has been weakened? do you think wayne lapierre has the president's ear the same way as in the past? >> honestly, i think we have the nra on the run a little bit. the vast majority of people stand with us on background checks. wayne lapierre may not agree, but most of his members do. we need the senate ma krjority
leader and we need president trump to listen to us. >> thank you. >> you got it. sources telling us the white house pushed back on efforts by homeland security officials to make threats from white supremacists and domestic terrorists a greater priority. first heart wrenching videos of children crying for their parents after the largest i.c.e. raid in history in a single state. immigration officials say more than 300 people have since been released. cnn just spoke with some of them today. stand by for that. you're watching cn nshgs nshgs shn, i'm brooke baldwin. but allstate actually helps you drive safely... with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast... ...and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer. giving you the power to actually lower your cost. unfortunately, it can't do anything about that.
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we're back, you're watching cnn. federal prosecutors call it record setting. it's the largest immigration raid in one state ever with 680 people arrested. the 2020 democratic presidential candidates call it something else entirely, evil says bernie sanders. inhumane says elizabeth warren. pete buttigieg calls it a policy disaster. cory booker calls it moral vandalism. no doubt they are all thinking about these precious children.
they were the ones left behind after homeland security arrested undocumented workers at seven sites and six cities in mississippi. i.c.e. says the operation was a year in the making after a major investigation that used informants at food processing plants. but this 11-year-old girl, all she knows is that her dad was taken away from her. >> government, please let my parents be with me and everybody else, please. don't leave the children with crying and everything. i need my dad with me. my dad didn't do nothing. he's not a criminal. >> listen to another child, a 12-year-old as she asks for her mother. you can hear her weeping in this clip recorded bay womy a woman n the scene. [ speaking foreign language ]
>> please, can i see my mother, please? >> please. >> diane gallagher is in mississippi there covering the aftermath of this raid. the girl you can hear pleading for her mother. were they reunited? >> yeah. i just got done speaking with her mother about an hour and a half ago at their home. her mother was released last night. it turned out they put her on a bus that released her at a different plant in the middle of the night about an hour away from her home. a family friend was able to take her daughter with her to pick her up. they're together, but they're scared. they're reconsidering their options. that little girl is a u.s. citizen, that's in part why they let her go. she was one of roughly 270 people, according to i.c.e., that were let go once they were processed after being detained. she was from this particular
site right here behind me. she is scared. she doesn't know what this means for her next. she says she knows she can't go back to her job at the chicken plant. someplace she's been working to support her family and her daughter is frightened for her to leave the house. it's truly affected them in a way she said she didn't expect would be. she had a bad feeling for a writer, but she didn't think it would be like this with all of these people from this community being rounded up together. she talked about being in that processing center. everybody pushing them into different areas. she and the people they were divided off with got to go home. she doesn't know what happened to the other people. we know roughly 30 individuals were released for humanitarian reasons. that could be both they and their spouse were detained there may have had a child at home, or they may have been pregnant or nursing. that's not even half of the people detained yesterday.
>> glad you're there and talking to these families. thank you very much. i want to turn to someone who used to work for i.c.e., elliott williams served as director for i.c.e. nice to have you back. on the point of these kids, that's what i keep coming back to, do you think the administration calculated, thought about the fact that these kids would be left alone? >> doni don't know. we know they dreliberately separated kids from their parents earlier in the administration. i don't think that was a factor. i think a big issue here with this entire enforcement operation, they identified or said it was building support for a big criminal case they were working on. they could have done that without arresting 600 people. what they could have done, if
they wanted to truly target these employers is audit their recordkeeping. look at the documentation they have, if that's what they wanted to do. it seems this wasn't to keep building a criminal case, but to frighten people. if that was their goal, they succeeded. >> a bit more on what we know. actually do you -- a bit more on what we know. cnn learned that i.c.e. will release a number of detainees from the raids because of child care issues. we don't know the number of children without their parents. but what happens to the kids? where do they go? >> kids separated? >> kids who have been separated. where do they go? >> perhaps if they have another individual who can care for them in the family, they would go to them. they might go into the custody of the department of health and human services. the problem is that we know from the past couple of years,
department of health and human services doesn't have a spectacular record of keeping track of children in its custody. this is the face of all of this. they have a flen douse amount f tremendous amount of discretion on how they carry out their authority. the obama administration put in some guardrails. the goal here seems to be done with a hatchet, not a scalpel. >> elliott, thank you. coming up next, the billionaire owner of the miami dolphins and the fitness chain soul cycle getting major backlash after he agreed to host a high-dollar fund-raiser for donald trump. how he's responding as people threaten to boycott his companies. (in dutch)
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the democratic process. while some to sit outside and criticize, i choose to support the things i deeply care about. i've known donald trump for 40 years, while we agree on some issues, we strongly disagree on others. i have never been bashful about expressing my opinions. i have been and will continue to be an outspoken champion of racial equality, inclusion, diversity, public education and environmental sustainability and i have and will continue to support leaders on both sides of the aisle to address these challenges. what's the bottom line here? with me now, safa dean, a sports reporter, and efa salam. this owner seems to want it both ways. he says he doesn't agree with trump on everything. yet he is still going to endorse him and have this fund-raiser. how does he square this?
>> quite frankly i'm not sure how stephen ross knows how to square this because of this reaction its had the last two days. stephen ross has been one of the most outspoken nfl flairs, supportive of players like kenny stills who called him out on this, championing social equality, racial equality, inclusion. but having this fund-raiser is a direct contradiction to those things. he is supporting president trump's re-election campaign. it's not a good look. it's not a strong stance he took by saying he agrees on some views and disagrees with others. >> back to the football side, this is a guy who actually says if players want to take a knee, take a knee. it's good for it. he funds r.i.s.e..
is this about business? >> it is. like he said, you can't have it both ways. you can't tell me we'll create these programs for inclusion, equality, and galvanize us, bring us together and you go and throw this type of fund-raiser and you support -- look, you can support whoever you want. this is america. you can -- whatever candidate you want, you can -- if he wants to support trump, that's fine. a lot of nfl owners support trump. the problem is you can't spit in our face and tell us it's raining. that's the problem. that's what we're doing right now. you can't say look, i'll have this high-dollar fund-raiser for mr. trump. we've been friends for years and years and years. all of the rhetoric coming from the white house has been about divisiveness, unequality. you cannot support both sides of this issue. on other issues, taxes, some of
those things, that's fine. when it comes to racial equality and benefits for those who have been impoverished, trying to help communities, you can't play both sides of the fence. it won't happen. >> you had me at you can't spit in our faces and tell me it's raining. you are both saying how can you have it both ways? also the people who work at these places. soul cycle, it's an lbgtq friendly business. they sent out a statement saying they believe in equality, inclusion, and they call ross a passive investor. so what about long-time employees at soul cycle and equinox. might these boycotts affect the employees more than mr. ross? >> this affects employees, patrons, and competitors who are trying to score new customers
because of this fallout. the companies have distanced themselves from this fund-raiser, distanced themselves from one of their biggest investors, and they still have to continue to do their crisis management to hope to smooth things over. >> a lot of people are saying nope, my money is not going to donald trump. i know you say it's a free country, but it's not okay to talk out of both sides of your mouth. what happens now? >> there's consequences to your action. it is a free country. you can support whoever you want. but if people, patrons who -- if you own businesses, they don't share the same views you share, of course it's going to hurt financially and though soul cycle and equinox came out making statements saying he's not a part of this, we'll see how passive he is. >> do you think -- does ross pull out of this, ephraim? >> don't think he pulls out of the fund-raiser.
it's hard to make billionaires not do something they want to do. but the problem is does soul cycle, does equinox, does that management group, does that ownship group, if he's just a piece of that, do they take him out of it? look what happened to uber and the ceo there. look at papa john's, they kicked papa john out of papa john's pizza. there's consequences. i couldn't believe it. okay. maybe it's johnny john's now. i don't know. >> i needed a laugh, thank you, ephraim. >> with what's going on in the media today and in this country, we all do need to laugh. but i tell you this billionaires are not going to be able to allow to be getting away with the things they're doing now. >> ephraim, thank you for that. i appreciate both of you gentlemen very much. now to this as we learn that white house aides actually don't think the president's trips to texas and ohio went well
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president says and done encourages white supremacist. i don't know there's a distinction. if you're trying to curry the favor of white supremacists or any group that is counter to everything we believe. he encourages them. everything he does he speaks to them. he's afraid to take them on. the one time he used the word white supremacy, it was not -- he talked about sleepy. he was awful sleepy and the way in which he talked about it. >> the white house has been wearing what one source called ideological blinders for more than a year about the rise of domestic terrorism and white supremacy. current and former administration officials say the white house continually rebuffed efforts by homeland security to make domestic terror threats a higher priority in the country. that goes hand in hand with the "time" magazine cover story.
you can see the cover there. the one poignant word enough, surrounded by the names of 253 -- let me say that again, 253 cities impacted by shootings this year. the cover article cites one former supremacy is a greater threat than international terrorism right now. we're being eaten within. and this quote, since 9/11 white supremacists and other far right extremists have been responsible for almost three times as many attacks on the u.s. soil as islamic terrorists. the writer of that cover piece joins us. in reading your piece, you got a lot of -- a lot to of interviews, more than a dozen with former and current federal law enforcement, national security folks, they tell you they're watching domestic terror warnings get ignored and defunded. tell me how and why.
>> there's been a flood of stories in the wake of these shootings specifically about why law enforcement, the fbi, why dhs is not going more. we hear it's not just these reports we've been hearing for the last two years that the trump administration has de-funded one office at dhs, it's an ongoing problem for the last decade. they've been warning about this since 2008/2009. they have these offices within dhs, and offices with domestic i treatme extremism. these offices just keep being defunded. the staffing gets cut. they say, you know, their frustrations speaking to us is palatable. they see these shootings happen, all of this gets ignored within. they are saying we were warning about this a decade ago. we could have set up an infrastructure that would have
kept pace with the growth of the threat. now they're pessimistic if they can catch up to it. >> let me come back to that. one other point you make, when you look at the tools, the weapons that law enforcement has to fight isis or al qaeda versus domestic terrorism, it's night and day. you add to that the politics. so you point out this does not have a veptive areceptive audiee white house. can you tell me what you mean? >> we spoke to a senior official in these meetings, they're saying even if -- for example, we have 20% of fbi counterterroism agents focused on domestic probes if they're saying we need to expand that, islamic terrorism is not the threat it used to be, even those administrations want to refocus federal resources to that, they say it doesn't matter what they want to do. if their assessments go counter to what the president is saying, they say this falls on deaf ears. one official tells us that could
cost you your seat at the table. so they're saying no amount of facts or data will convince the white house and really going to drive these resources if what the president is publicly saying, which is, for example, in the wake of the new zealand shooting, saying that white supremacy across the world is a minor threat, they're not going to get these resources. it happened during the obama administration, there was that will, but they didn't want to go against the political pressure. now that they are going against the president themselveses. so there was some pessimism there, that this would find a receptive audience. >> the coat from jout fro quote about republicans throwing a hissy fit on some of this. i encourage folks to read the cover story of "time" magazine right now. thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you. breaking news on the impeach the fight against president trump. the house judiciary chairman is
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just into cnn, new reporting about how close house democrats may be to moving forward with impeachment proceedings. our senior washington correspondent is up on capitol hill, manu raju. this is escalating dramatically. what are you learning? >> reporter: they're now engaged in a full-blown investigation as to determine whether or not to move forward with articles of impeachment against the president of the united states before theant of the year. recent court filings maybe it clear of this dramatic escalation about the democrats' decision to move forward to decide whether or not to vote on these articles. every single day we're seeing more democrats come out and say they xworp impeachment inquiry, but now what i'm told from sources that is essential moot, because what the judiciary committee is doing is essential that, investigating whether or
not the president of the united states needs to be impeached, a decision they hope to be decided in the few weeks ago. jerry nadler is pushing healed. he hayes cited in their lawsuit that was filed just yesterday from the house trying to get the former white house counsel don mcgahn to testify before their committee. they need him to testify because they're trying to decide whether or not to impeach the president. also the speaker of the house nancy pelosi for months has put the brakes on, but increasingly leaving the door open pointing to the committee, blessing language in the lawsuit that said the committee is actively conferring articles of impeachment. her public rhetoric has shifted slightly, so her allying believe she's keeping the doors open. the question is ultimately if the democrats do decide to go
forward or simply taking a more aggressive posture to help their case in court to convince federal judges to side with them by saying they need this information from the trump administration in order to decide on whether to move forward, but today, brooke, we at cnn are adding jerry nadler the he chairman of the commit year to the list of the supporters, significant that his role of this chairman of this key committee. that puts it at 120 democrats supporting formal proceedings. we'll see where it ends up. >> that's a biggy. the pressure is mountings. ma manu, or senior congressional correspondent, thank you very much. former number two at the fbi, a frequent target of the president, is now suing the fbi and the department of justice. here why. [music playing]
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jewel. just into us as cnn, we have learned andrew mccabe is now suing the justice department and the fbi for wrongful termination. our justice correspondent jessica schneider is following this for us. what's in the lawsuit? >> this is a lengthy and scathing federal lawsuit from andrew mccabe. in it he asking the judge in the d.c. federal court to determine that his termination was unlawful, to reinstate him as deputy director of the fbi, and also in turn to then reinstate his early retirement benefits and full pension. brooke, really in this lawsuit, this is a direct attack on the president. this was something that was previewed by andrew mccabe in
that "60 minutes" interview when he put it this way -- i was fired because i opened an investigation against the president of the united states, and he doesn't hold back in this lawsuit. in the opening paragraph of this lawsuit, andrew mccabe put it this way. he says that he believes the united states remains a government of laws, not of men, and has brought this kay to remedy the defendant's unlawful retaliation for his refusal to pledge allegiance to a single man that man being, of course, the president. he has brought they lawsuit against attorney general barr, as well as christopher wray and the fbi itself. it seems to be the main target here is the president. for the first few pages of this lawsuit, he talks about the president's unconstitutional scheme, as he puts it, to target members of the fbi, agents, officials who didn't agree with
the president. that's what this lawsuit is about, brooke, andrew mccabe saying he was unlawfully terminated, because he didn't agree with the president. brooke? >> got if for the update, jessica. appreciate it. i'm brooke balance win. thanks for being here. "the lead" with jake tabor begins now. a massive i.c.e. raid. "the lead" tarts now. the president bragging about his crowd sizes to el paso medical staff who just respond to do a racist mass murder. how and why the white house is celebrating the trips today. >> he's not a criminal. families torn apart, children absolutely terrified, as hundreds of suspected undocumented immigrants are ripped out of their places of employment. with latinos already living in fear. plus