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blunt sharpie is terrible. not this kind, either. too pointy. watch any time, ""ac 360"" starts right now. good evening. president trump tonight acco according to the washington post after repeatingly telling crowds of voters how not racist he is and how much he's done for minorities across the country including taking credit for lowering the unemployment rate for black and ashace asian americans. trump has a problem, people think he's racist and this angers the president. according to the washington post quote president trump considers himself a branding wizard but vexed by a crisis of his own how to shed the label of racist. majority of reasons as we point out the second anniversary, white nationalist and white s
supremacist violence and the president declared there were very fine people on both sides the night of a torch-lit march chanting jews will not replace us. let's remind us how the presidency sees himself on the issue of race. >> i'm the least racist person there is in the world as far as i'm concerned. >> before and since he's run for president and this is the reason according to a presidential advisor who spoke to the washington post and i'm quoting, the president views the characterization largely through the lens of politics.d a visor private conversations saying trump feels the charges are an attempt to discredit him not like more than a dozen women that accused him of sexual misconduct or the investigation into election interference. in other words, according to this unnamed aid. the president is just as innocent of race sism as sexual
misconduct. it's right on the money because it's something people on the left and right would completely agree with for totally opposite reasons. but it also fits the world view of this president when it comes to facts inconsistent with the image he wants you to see. >> just remember, what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening. >> that was the president a year ago on criticisms of his handling of the economy but it is a fair estimation of his attitude toward any criticism when it comes to actions and rhetoric involving people who aren't white. that's when he tells four congresswomen of color to quote go back to where they came from even though they are americans and three are from the united states. that he says isn't racist. call the black majority district of baltimore call it a disgusting rat and rodent infested mess isn't racist and attacks the judge for trump university over mexican heritage and says he can't be unbias or
takes out newspaper ads for five black youths wrongly convicted of rape and not apologize for doing so, none of that is racist according to the president or what about the invasion from mexico? >> this is an invasion. when you see these caravans starting out with 20,000 people, that's an invasion. we're on track for a million illegal aliens trying to rush our borders. it is an invasion. you know that. you look what is marching up, that's an invasion. >> a "usa today" reports of the 64 rallies trump held since 2017 when discussing immigration, the president said invasion at least 19 times. the far right loves that word, too, when talking about ingra immigration. "the new york times" says it's favorite word of a lot of media types on the right. the eloque paso shooter talked t
invasion. the far right and shooter had a shared vocabulary of intolerance that stokes fear on immigrants of color. this is not to say president trump or anyone on the far right is responsible for the el paso shooting. only to ensight danger in echoing this language because when you make it okay to talk about invasion or send people back to where they came from, people are bound to pick up that message. >> send her back! >> obviously and importantly, omar has a history of launching vicious, antis-semitic views. >> send her back! send her back! send her back! send her back! send her back! >> that was the president
immediately cutting off that chant as he said he did. as a result of all that went on for 13 seconds, as a result of this, at least one former top aid of the president had enough. anthony served 11 days as white house communications director and he and the president are facing off over twitter. he told my senior colleague john berman today i think you have to consider a change at the top of the ticket when someone is acting like this, in ref praner to president trump. the president tweeted he had nothing to did do with my election victory is upset he is not wanted back in my election administration which he desperately wanted to be. also, i seldom had time to return his many calls to me. he tweeted back mulbull bulge i most anti american thing in the u.s. time to call in a good relief pitcher. p po podus is lost. thank you for being with us.
i'm wondering just on the issue of racism, in the past you said you believe the president is not a white nationalist or white supremacist but you made the point he's making a play consciously using some words, is that right? he's playing to that audience for political reasons? >> yeah, he's trying to be too cute by half. he's luring that out there. he wants that out there. at the end of the day he treats everybody like objects. he doesn't see color but a potential transaction, opportunity or detriment. that's not racism. that might be narcotic sis sis m m. it's a worse level than racism. it's racist against everybody. he could careless. you're an object in his way for
or against and he's got a playbook. he's using it on me now. the playbook is let me intimidate. let me bully. let me say stuff. i mean, you got to think about this guy. he's using the american presidency and the twitter feed from the american presidency to go after his fellow citizens from the white house, from the presidency, right? so you guys just think about how disturbing that is and so for me, you know, he's talking about other people being unamerican and have to go back to places where they came from and stuff like that. hey, mr. president, you're being unamerican. bullying is unamerican and in the meantime, the first lady who is a very nice person, she's got this anti bullying campaign going on and he's lighting up and personalizing this. anderson, i have five children. this guy is trying to put me in harm's way on his twitter feed as he's done to other people. i'm not saying i'm being singled out. the reason he's doing it is not because of me but to scare those
people on the hill that hate his guts. they are up there looking at each other shaking their head. we got to wait him out. it's either 15 months or five years, they hate his guts. he knows it. they know it but they are afraid to speak up. what he does is uses the twitter feed -- >> they are not profiles -- >> as a speed bump to stop everybody. john kennedy wrote three books and said the smallest book was profiles and courage because it's hard to have it. it's not easy to be in the line of fire of the president of the united states. he knows that. but, you know, look, it's disgusting at this point. you brought up three or four things. what triggered me the most was the send them back nonsense that is literally a racist troeb for t two centuries. everyone's parents that have an ethic background, i said i'm still supporting you. you're doing a lot of good things. why do you want to go full on
race sism like that and divide country? the first thing the country is united, you're the president of the united states and leading the free world -- >> the thing -- >> and -- >> the thing about send them back, that is something used against irish immigrants when they came, against -- >> everybody. >> germans, everybody, japanese, i mean, it's -- it is the oldest racist trope there is and for the president of the united states to be saying that and encouraging the chant is stunning and people think it's become normal but it is not normal. >> but it's not normal and just speaking personally, my grandmother was told that, produced three children. one was my mom. two served in world war ii. one was on the normandy beaches and one fought at the battle of the bulge. did you want her to go back? these are american heroes, okay? she worked very hard as a made
and in the hostess laundry to help me get the lifestyle i have now. anderson, it's ridiculous. here is the thing. my fellow republicans have to wake up out of their slumber, a true demagogue doesn't want one si si out of line. >> that's not -- >> the ice king or whatever the guy was. >> sorry to interrupt, we're on a satellite so it's hard with the technology. >> go ahead. >> there is a lot of people listening tonight that say -- >> i was going to promote one of your hbo properties again. >> there is a lot of people watching tonight that will say i agree with what you're saying, but they would say to you where have you been? you're just coming to this realization now. he's been bullying people for a long time -- >> very -- >> and he's had the cabinet -- >> absolutely fair. >> he had the cabinet sit around and praise literally have them go around praising loyalty.
all the trump sure ra gets on, if they say one thing, he gets upset with them. >> that's a fair criticism of me. i have to own that. i won't deflect that or make up excuses but what i would say to your viewers, i grew up in a neighborhood in a blue collar family and the president's promise on the campaign was related to helping to provided a va kas -- advocacy for those people. i should have been more attuned to that. people want to criticize me for speaking out now. that's legitimate, but there is others that feel that way and they don't have the courage to speak out, so what i'm asking them to do is think about it. when you go to bed tonight and you're thinking about your country, don't focus on your wallet or your pocketbook. focus on what's right for america and say is this guy normal? is this the right way to handle
things in america? i think when you do that, you'll get to the place where i'm at and by the way, it will take awhile for a lot of these people that like the president. i understand that. but this is not the right guy for america. i believe in the republican party and republican values, and we got to fix the party. so we need a new leader at the top of the ticket that can bring people together, that can speak with the right rhetoric to people and also explain to people that we're going to do this together. all of our problems in the country, we're going to fix and solve together. but i mean, i know the policies are better on the republican side for the most part. i'm socially progressive but i'm saying, we can do this, anderson. i want to bring up the ice king. remember the scene in "the game of thrones." all the dead zombies evaporate. that's where we are now. we have to have an aria stark come into the room. let's knock this guy off, okay? i mean politicallpolitically, o.
let's move him to the side. had a good six innings. he's throwing stuff to the backstop. he can't hit the strike zone and he's doing things that are classically unamerican like bullying his fellow citizens from the oval office on his phone. >> so let me ask you -- >> enough is enough. let's move on from this now. >> do you think this is -- i think you've used the word deterioration, i don't want to put words in your mouth. you talk about he's not, you know, i don't know the sports analogy because i'm terrible at sports, he's not doing as well. the fastball slowed down. do you believe -- >> glasses fall down -- >> do you believe that is a degeneration of something in him or just politically he's mi misreading stuff? >> it's a combination of things. okay? it's drunk on power as we know absolute power corrupts absolutely. everyone is scared of him. there is nobody inside the white
house giving him the right advice. you know i had my issues with general kelly. let me tell you, this went way downhill after general kelly left. i subsequently made peace with general kelly, invited him to my conference and we did a 45-minute interview and had dinner together and lunch and he's an american patriot. we buried differences but i'm just saying, after general kelly left, this thing is on a descending slope because at the end of the day, no one will -- he won't take anybody's advice and if you're a good journalist or great journalist, go ask people in washington who does the president listen to? and the truth, the honest people say nobody. he listens to nobody. >> but isn't this republican party now his? isn't this republican party now his? it's not the party regan anymore. >> no, no, no, it's like i told john berman, it's like the green witch. once you throw the water on the green witch and she starts melting, those soldiers can't hate dorothy, i'm sorry about
this. we were behind the green witch because of her perception of power. okay? if they come to him in a unit, they know i'm right. okay? trust me. they know i'm right. they are just afraid to say it. because they don't want to get primaried and don't want to get trump twitter lit up like the big cyber bully he is. they don't want that stuff but they have to dig deep now and think about the country. think about america. >> everyone, every republican who has done that has left. >> grandparents. >> i mean, every republican who has spoken out, decided they have to leave. >> okay. okay, so let's bring those people back and have another conversation with the people that are still in the party and say okay, come on, guys, you know this isn't right. we can come up with the right policies that can help the most americans live most people out of poverty. we can fix these asetrade dealsd reignite the great alliances around the world. we won't do it with this guy.
>> let me just -- >> i just got to ask -- go ahead. >> he's getting worse. >> let me ask you, i got a bunch of tvs in my office. >> it's your show, brother. >> i saw folks on fox talking about you. i clicked on the sound to hear it and they said something like basically, you're putting your finger in the air sensing which way -- >> attention seeker. >> which way the wind is blowing and want to be able to go to cocktail parties in new york and that's why you're speaking out. i want you to be able to respond. >> it's super important to me. i'm a blue collar kid that lives two miles from my parents. i don't go to cocktail parties in new york. i don't know how to find them. i live two miles from my parents and mother-in-law and take care of them every day. it's just that non-sense. they want trump to see them on television and say, hoh, that's good and he'll say something nice about them and they will puff up their chest with this falseness. so that's a bunch -- trust me. do you think i want to be doing
this? i got a great family and a great business and i reconnected with my wife after the fiasco two years ago. do you think i need to be doing this? i'm worried about the country. if you're worried about the country and thinking about your ancestors that helped to build the country to get it to where it is now, you don't want it like this with this non-sense and this division. >> no. >> the president is giving people a license to hate, anderson, and a license to be angry about things when he should be uniting people. they can say whatever they want about me. i get that. trust me, do you think i want to be doing this? it's not about getting attention but hey, guys, we got to wake up because we're in a dangerous situation. the yellow light is on. it will go red. if he wins the next presidential election, look out. he hasn't listened to anybody in the first four years, what do you think will happen in the next four years? >> to me, i know they are with me. i just would like a few more phone calls.
i got a tremendous number of phone calls today from people in washington outside of washington, there is tons of business cards in my hand here. let's go. let's break the fever that's going on in the republican party. >> anthony scaramucci thank you. the president is raising attention on conspiracy theories including jeffrey epstein. apparently he has time to do that and andrew yang on the campaign trail. he became emotional talking about gun control this weekend. we'll talk to him in a moment. this summer at panera, we're going all in on strawberries. at their reddest, ripest, they make everything better. like our strawberry poppyseed salad and new strawberry summer caprese salad. order online for delivery. panera. food as it should be ♪
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do this. this is the president of the united states and, you know, taking this in context, this would be like barack obama accusing george bush of murdering someone and that would never happen. it's startling. with trump it's not so startling because, you know, he's a little bit nuts when it comes to these conspiracy theories but it's done for a reason. it's done to do like the sound you played in the first block talking about don't believe what you see. don't believe what people say, just believe me. and what it does is reduces overall trust in the government where people then start believing the conspiracy theories. so it's, you know, he's taking something that's been in the playbook of the right wing for quite sometime and ex increased frequency and power. >> james, obviously, this is nothing new for the president to push conspiracy theories regularly. it's new for a president to do it but not this president.
his politics started with birtherism. but do you think he -- to me what is interesting about this is that he basically as joe said, it makes people kind of doubt everything. it's sort of along the lines of everything is rigged, there is something going on here. something is not right and yet, he's the president arguably it's his department of justice. he oversees this stuff. he's ultimately responsible and yet sort of almost like a strange by stander watching and tweeting about stuff. >> what i don't buy is that he's getting worse. i mean, it started with the central park five and went to birtherism and senator cruz' daddy assassinating president kennedy and every other stupid thing he says. the truth of the matter is we have to accept the fact 35% of people in this country would rather be told racist lies. the good news is 65% are
thinking not like that but he's been doing this forever since i can ever remember before he even ran for office. i don't think he's one bit worse today than before. he's the same person that keep the count alive. 10,000 now. cnn does it -- >> "the washington post." >> it's all documented. nothing, you know, nothing new here. >> joe, yesterday kellyanne conway of course nothing new defended the president promoting the clinton epstein conspiracy theory saying i think the president wants everything to be investigated. i don't even know really there is no question there. i just -- what the -- yeah. >> i'm not sure i have an answer. it's mutual. >> you have no answer for my non-question. >> on its face, it's ridiculous because, you know, she, if someone followed up with a real follow up and said do you think
the president's family should be investigated? do you think the president should be investigated? she would have said of course not. that's a political hit job. it's really sad seeing people who had, you know, a descent reputation, get destroyed by the cancer of donald trump. but it's just outrageous that she would stand out there and say that sort of thing. but there is no real answer to it. >> you know, there is -- i think one of our guests wrote the book everything trump touches dies, and i am blanking on who it was. >> rick wilson. >> rick wilson, sorry. republican strategist. it does seem, james, no one survives a close proximity to president trump like survives in the sense of reputation or ultimately he turns on everybody just as you know now with
scaramucc sglir scaramucci. >> who has been hurt the most of this administration, who came out with the least amount of damage. i think it's generally acknowledged general mattis got out there with the least amount of damage. think of the people that's been disgraced, embarrassed, you name it. you know, but my point is, they knew this going in. he's not one bit worse today than he was the day he was elected. i mean, you can't be a birther, there is no explanation for birtherism that doesn't -- that does not willing to exploit racism. i'd be careful calling someone a racist but clearly, he doesn't mind exploiting it. there is no other explanation for being a birther. you knew that coming out of the chut. i don't buy this he's getting any worse. he's always been horrific. i don't think he can go any lower than the place he's starting. >> james -- >> i really don't. you know, investigate -- why
don't we investigate whether the world is round or flat. every side needs to be heard in this debate for sure that makes as much sense and the point now. >> but to james' point, i think it's getting worse in one sense. not necessarily on the racism. if you look in the first year there were people like gary who could stop him from doing things. he is walking us into a trade war that could per sper sip tat international crisis. there is nobody around telling him not to do it. that has gotten worse. >> gary would take stuff off his desk. >> yeah, the concept -- >> i got to go. >> the consequences are getting worse, i think. >> james, joe lockhart, good to have you. >> you bet. we have a news on an arrest following the massacre in dayton, ohio. police have taken into custody and why and the presidential candidate who was broke down into tears over the gun deaths
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there has been an arrest in dayton, ohio. a friend was taken into custody on weapons charges. the 24-year-old allegedly bought the body armor and double drum magazine used in the attack. investigators he stored them in his residence to hide them from the shooter's parents. over the weekend a slew of democratic candidates addressed the epidemic at a forum in iowa. one of them, andrew yang was brought to tears about what he heard from a mom in the crowd. >> my beautiful 4-year-old daughter dayla was struck by a stray bullet march 2011. my son, my daughter's twin brother witnessed what happened that day. >> i have a 6 and 3-year-old boy, just imagining. [crying]
>> i was imaging it was one of them that got shot and the other saw it. [crying] >> i'm so sorry. >> i spoke to andrew yang just before air. we just play that emotional moment from this weekend in iowa. are you surprised given all the attention right now on the issue of background checks and guns that mitch mcconnell is not i mean willing to bring folks back to actually address this or even clear on what moves he would support, if any? >> i mean, at this point the will of the american people is very clear and hopefully he'll see reason and reconvene the senate so we can get this legislation passed. when you say am i surprised, unfortunately, it's not as surprising as i wish it were. >> it seems like you can make the argument he's trying to slow this and attention dies down on
it. >> yeah, it's been the playbook certainly. they hope that country turns its attention to something else but i have a feelg the doing the co won't let this go. >> the president talks about wanting meaningful background checks in the past after park land he talked about raising the age for buying a long rifle and background checks, as well and then nothing happens and he seems to walk away from it as soon as people who support those ideas leave the room and the nra or somebody else comes in and has a different opinion. >> we're kind of accustomed to an erratic level of commitment out of the white house unfortunately. we have a historic opportunity not only because the american people are outraged and eager for real action but the nra is a mess right now. the nra is in disarray and i think that their ability to counter the will of the american people somewhat diminished now as we take advantage of this opportunity. >> there is still, it's easy to
over state the problems with the nra and the power. >> of course. but do you worry about that influence in politics? do you think they still carry tremendous weight? >> well, the times are changing but the strangle hold the nra had on gun legislation is a sign of a larger problem which is politics are over run but corporate money and other funders so one of my flag ship propels is to give every amer a american $100 that we can only give to candidates and campaigns to washout lobbyist cash 8-1. >> that would be you would give every american $100 every year to donate to a campaign. >> democracy dollars. use it or lose it. if you don't use them, they disappear. >> would there still be lobbyist money? you can't stop that. >> that's the trick.
the nra has tens of millions of dollars. they have legislators locked up so the legislators feel like it's in self-preservation to listen to the nra and not the will of the american person. money talks and it's hard to push it out of politics. what we do is wash it out with a flood of people powered money where if you're a legislator and the nra says hey, i got $500,000 to run against you and your people say look, who cares about that 500,000? i got $5 million because there are 50,000 of us giving you $100 each. then we can actually turn and align the legislators self-interest with the will of the people. >> what do you support in terms of change on laws regarding firear firearms? >> i'm aligned with most of the democratic candidates where we need universal background checks and red flag laws and military style assault weapons. the question is why are we not getting this done and then the
answer is the nra and lobbyist cash and the fact that the legislative process is now disconnected with the will of the people. you have to address that and get the again manufactures interest aligned with the american people. we need to have a perpetual buy back because there are over 300 million firearms out there in private hands. >> if there is an assault weapons ban, that's one of the conclusions that they reach in 2004 i think the final report on the assault weapons ban wasn't long enough to actually have an effect on gun deaths because there were so many -- >> so many out there. >> so many weapons still out there. >> no matter the laws, it doesn't diminish the supply out there because it's not like the guns disappear. a lot are in private homes a. perpetual buy back where any owner could trade in their gun, this is not the gun, this is not
my favorite gun and we can decrease the supply and we can make the gun safer to be personalized to a particular owner's hand print. it's not fingerprint but can be personalized on your grip and where the weight is coming from so if that again gets into a child's hands or someone else's hands, it's useless and many gun owners or parents would be excited about personalizing their weapon if the government were to subsidize that or pay for it. >> elon musk tweeted out support for you. >> yes. e lo elon is part of the yang gang. >> it was a three-word tweet? >> it was, i support yang. that's all. his team is in touch with my team. elon is ahead of the curve in terms of the future and what's coming. >> really and clearly. >> so we couldn't be more thrilled with his endorsement. >> vice presidential candidate perhaps?
>> i don't think he wants that job, anderson. i think he'll be like spacex, tesla, vp, i have a feeling vp might lose in that horse race. >> andrew yang, great talking to you. >> thank you. there is breaking news in the jeffrey epstein suicide investigation. he was in a jail known to be the best of its kind so how was he able to die by suicide. that's coming up. let's be honest, you need insurance.
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there is breaking news in the investigation of jeffrey epstein's apparent suicide. "the new york times" says one of the guards supposed to be watching epstein wasn't a regular guard in the first place. that person was filling in and not a full fledged correction office. a source with knowledge of his time said his cell was not regularly monitored the night he's believed to have killed himself and the two guards monitoring the unit were both on over time. many accusers wonder if they will ever get justice. julie kate brown is the reporter with breaking and leading the reporting on the epstein story from the start and for years. first of all, when you heard, i mean, this news, this is something you've been working on for years. whatmind. >> i was just stunned just like
everybody else. the first thought isn't he on suicide watch and how does someone commit suicide when on suicide watch. i thought the same thing everybody else did, and my first thought actually after that was to call the common, call the victims. i called them immediately, and they were very distraught. >> because they felt that they weren't going to get answers? and that anybody else who was involved might not be brought to justice? >> i don't know if it was that as much as they had been wanting, you know, their whole golfs to hold him accountable. >> right. >> and to see that he finally would go to prison because he got such a sweet heart deal back in 2008 and he mercilessly treated them terribly. >> he had detectives following them. >> yeah, yeah. >> threatening them. >> and his lawyers were submitting, you know, their facebook page at the time it was my space, that's how long ago it was but, you know, because one of them was drinking a beer or
one of them was smoking marijuana or they did all they could to dig into the deepest darkest part of their lives and remember, these were girls who came from vulnerable environments and broken families. >> right. there is a reason he picked people in that situation. >> yeah. >> just in terms of possible co-conspirato co-conspirators, do all the answers die with him? or obviously he knew a lot of stuff that he could have revealed had he been alive if he was so inclined or wanted to, you know, lesson a deal. are there other ways to get at justice for the victims? >> he had a lot of people helping him. he did not do this on his own. you don't marshall hundreds of girls to molest three times a day as we saw in the documents that were released the other day. he had to have it at least three times a day and he wanted different girls all the time. it wasn't even enough to have a hand full that came all the
time. he wanted tons of them. and so in order to do that and recruit these girls from various places, he had some women that helped him do this and kept his schedule and would call and go to these schools and go to other places where teenage girls congregate and try to lure them into giving him a massage. that was the code word for what he was doing. you know, you'll get $200 and give an old man a massage and, you know, these girls, you know, didn't have any money, some of them were pretty much homeless. >> just in terms of questions you have about his death, you know, you had pointed out his treatment when he was in jail i think in florida. he was able to basically get this special treatment. you are curious if there was
some level of that in facilit facility. >> he was a mast erma ner manip and he had a jail sentence in florida like no other. he was allowed to leave 12 hours a day every day to go to a very nice office in palm beach and greeting visitors and greeting women and hired his own private security detail. it was unbelievable the privileges he had when he was jailed in florida for, you know, a brief period of time. so it wouldn't surprise me at all that he somehow managed to convince, you know, a commander or i don't know who in the jail to say well, i don't want to have -- and i've seen it in the documents for the jail term in florida where he didn't like to have lights on for example in his cell. so, you know, so he would convince somebody to let him turn the lights off, which is a security issue because you don't see what the inmate is doing if
you don't have a night light on. he managed to do that in florida. i'm sure he persuaded them to not have a cell mate. he probably didn't want a cell mate. >> thank you for your incredible work on this. much tougher regulations that could make it easier to reject green cards and visas, next. they make everything better. like our strawberry poppyseed salad and new strawberry summer caprese salad. order online for delivery. panera. food as it should be why accept it frompt an incompyour allergy pills?e else. flonase sensimist. nothing stronger. nothing gentler. nothing lasts longer. flonase sensimist. 24 hour non-drowsy allergy relief tailored recommendations, tax-efficient investing strategies, and a dedicated advisor
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they're able to really get in touch with who they are. rosanne: my favorite part of teaching has always been this opportunity to make a difference. ever: every student has the right to quality education. no matter what neighborhood you live in. rosanne: we are cta. ever: we are cta. marisa: we are cta. narrator: because we know quality public schools make a better california for all of us. the trump administration today announced new standards for legal immigrants to obtain green cards or qualify for citizenship. applicants could be denied full-time status. in effect, the financial status of those seeking permanent status here would be scrutinized. the rule which covers 837 pages
won't go into effect for a couple of months. they would apply to those wanting to remain in the country and those seeking to enter. i want to get perspective from the arthur of "stranger." i spoke with him before air t e time. that's a whole new level for this administration. >> you know. donald trump is the most ain't immigrant president in the last -- almost 70 years. so this is just another different step that he's taking. this is a president who separated babies from their mothers, who's putting children in cages, who's not allowing people who are applying for asylum to stay here. >> you look at the statue of liberty, the idea that only
wealthy, you know, people coming from countries that this administration seems to want to attract can contribute to america is -- it's a ridiculous notion. >> and donald trump is not very good at being sensitive and shehe's not very good at math. they're trying to give you the idea that immigrants are criminals or that they're too expensive and that is not true. of course at the beginning, immigrants, we have to pay for education and health care and for public services, but at the end, it's just a great business to have immigrants in this country. i was reading a study and at the end, all immigrants contribute more than $2 billion a year to the economy of this country. that's what we call the immigrants surplus. and the trump administration is not telling you that. >> it also just -- it is a fundamental view of the united states of what this administration clearly wants the united states to look like down the road. the idea that, you know, whites
will not be the majority i mean, that's -- it's an exciting transformation of the country, it's an exciting evolution and progress of our country in many different ways. clearly there's -- among white supremacists, that is viewed as a horrific event. >> i do understand. there's nothing really they can do against this revolution. in 2024, anyone is going to be a minority. and those who are trying to revert that trend, president trump represents them, and he would like, that seems to me, that's his vision, to have america look like him again and that's going to be impossible. >> for those who support what the administration is doing, and say, look, america should have the best and the brightest and if that's if their opinion, people who are not taking public assistance early on, what's wrong with that?
>> they're here. the best and the brightest are already here. immigrants, both legal and undocumented, they harvest the food that we eat, they take care of your children. the country is great thanks to its diversity and immigration and because we continue with the tradition. >> i want to play something that the acting commissioner of u.s. customs and border protection said in reaction to the video of a young girl crying that got a lot of attention after that i.c.e. raid on 700 undocumented workers. let's play what he said. >> i understand that the girl's upset and i get that, but her father committed a crime and just so the american people know also, is that girl, her mother was home and she was reunited within her mother within a few hours that night. >> her father committed a crime by crossing into the united states, apparently -- >> that's another 10 or 11
million. so officially we are in the business of separating children from their parents. we know that for sure. when i hear things like that, are we talking about also all the americans, millions of americans who benefit from the work of undocumented immigrants? undocumented immigrants, that father didn't come to this father to go to see a movie, he came to work and we benefit from their work and that's why not -- whenever we go to a restaurant or hotel, just do the experiment, go to the kitchen, the lower floor, and you'll see the people who are doing the job. >> go to a trump resort, you go to a trump golf course, you will find that -- at least in the past, up until it was exposed, you will find undocumented immigrants. the hypocrisy is realliesy astounding.
even polish workers who were doing the foundation for trump tower, his crown jewel. >> what's important just to see the alternative, we've been discussing for 20 years now the possibility of legalizing immigrants. there's nothing wrong with that idea. but he's giving you the only option which is to deport someone who came here to work for the american people. >> thank you. up next on the arrest made following the shooting arrest in dayton, ohio, plus i'll speak with chris murphy. president trump has talked about meaningful background checks. most people think a button is just a button. ♪ that a speaker is just a speaker. ♪ or - that the journey can't be the destination.