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ba baclava and armed with a knife. 30 minutes later, police found the body of an identified 21-year-old woman who had been fatally stabbed. they said all available information links the two stabbings together. the suspect had a usb drive that contained terrorism-related materials, but the incident is not being treated as such because police said the suspect had no apparent ties to terrorist organizations. back to you, brianna. >> thank you so much, bianca. that is it for me. newsroom with brooke baldwin starts right now. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> you are watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being with me. breaking news on this massive anti-government protest in hong kong sparking chaos in one of the world's busiest airports. president trump now responding, warning that chinese troops are heading to the border with hong kong. moments ago, president trump tweeted this. our intelligence has informed us that the chinese government is
moving troops to the border with hong kong. everyone should be calm and safe. this is coming as thousands of anti-government protesters took over the airport's massive departure and arrival halls, grounding flights now for the second-straight day with riot police literally at the front door. paramedics tried to push their way through to get to one man who protesters accused of being an undercover police officer. some people reportedly hitting him as he just sat there lying on the ground. he lost consciousness and he was eventually evacuated. right at the airport entrance, there were police in full riot gear. protesters used luggage carts to try to keep them out. and at one point, full-blown clashes broke out. some demonstrators and police fought each other, hand-to-hand, protesters hitting an officer with his own baton. all of this as passengers have been arriving at the airport for their flights. there have been scenes of angry
passengers confronting demonstrators furious, because they can't get on their planes. president trump speaking out on these protests there in hong kong just a little while ago. >> well, the hong kong thing is a very tough situation, very tough. we'll see what happens, but i'm sure it will work out. i hope it works out for everybody, including china, by the way. i hope it works out for everybody. it's a very tricky situation. i think it will work out and i hope it works out for liberty. i hope it works out for everybody, including china. i hope it works out peacefully. i hope nobody gets hurt. i hope nobody gets killed. >> cnn's will ripley is with me now. actually based in hong kong. hoping to get a flight back into hong kong tomorrow so you can be there tomorrow to cover this for us. but first of all, who are these protesters? what do they want? >> these are young people primarily who feel that they're
fighting for their future, the future of hong kong. they know that 2047 is the year that china takes back full control. because one country, two systems was guaranteed from the handover from british rule in '97 to 2047. but the fear in hong kong amongst some is that china's moving that deadline up and they've built a bridge that connects hong kong literally to the mainland. there's a high-speed rail line. and you have an increasing feeling that china is becoming more heavy-handed. and what triggered these protests was an extradition bill proposed by carrie lam that would have allowed china to extradite suspects back to the mainland, accused of crimes by beijing. the concern amongst people in hong kong that those crimes could include speaking out against the communist party, effectively stifling freedom of speech and freedom of expression in hong kong. that's what started all of this, but it has now devolved into something much darker and much more violent. >> so is china stepping in and is what the president tweeted about the military on the border, is that what's happening? >> i'm not sure what
intelligence he's referring to, but what we have seen in recent days are a number of videos posted by some chinese state media showing military armed police assembling in shenzhen, which if they drive on that bridge that was just completed within the last year, they can get to hong kong, military vehicles, chinese authorities in a very short period of time. a lot of analysts at this stage believe it's still beijing trying to send a message, almost of intimidation, of wharng what could happen. but i think the chinese government is slowly building the case. and there might be people in hong kong that would support some kind of intervention, because they fel like the hong kong police have been overwhelmed. but beijing has to be very careful. once they make that decision, they're not going to go in halfway. but these are optics. some are already calling it tiananmen square 2.0. we're not there yet, but getting you closer and closer. >> we wish you safe travels and will be talking to you from hong kong hopefully within the next 24 to 48 hours. back here at home, wall street's
recent wild ride continues today, but this time it is to the upside. stocks rebounding shortly from monday's triple-digit decline after president trump backed off a trade threat against china, at least for now. the white house announcing that a new wave of tariffs on items like iphones, tvs, video game consoles. it's an estimated $300 billion in chinese-made consumer goods will now go into effect in december instead of two weeks from now. >> the stock market is way up today for various reasons, including tariffs. just in case they might have an impact on people, what we've done is we've delayed it so that they won't be relevant for the christmas shopping season. >> and here's some live pictures. the president there now in pittsburgh, where he'll be giving a speech touting his policies and their impact on the economy. but a good day for the dow. that's not the whole story here. economists at several top firms
now increasing the odds of a recession. and some of them appointing to trump's trade battle with china and the uncertainty that comes right along with that. there's also the deficit, which grew to $876 billion through the month of july. that is a 27% jump from the same time last year. and the white house says the deficit will exceed $1 trillion this year. that is the first time that's happened since the years following the great recession. cnn's jeremy diamond is traveling with the president. so jeremy, we saw the president there up on the stage. what's his message today? >> reporter: well, brooke, you can see the president has just arrived on stage. we're at shell's petrochemical complex. and here you have several thousand workers who are working to build this plant out. once it goes into effect, this plant will convert natural gas into one of the precursors for plastics. so what you're going to hear the president here talking about is his policies on the economy, his
policies in terms of natural gas and energy independence. that's something that he touts very frequently. obviously, many of those policies are at the expense of environmental regulations. but make no mistake, brooke, a big message here for the president is going to be about politics. this may be an official white house event, but we are here in beaver county, which is one of the key counties in western pennsylvania that was crucial to the president's victory in 2016, turning pennsylvania from blue to red. and he is also pinning many of his hopes for 2020 in western pennsylvania this time around as well. however, he won't be able to take credit for this plant in particular. shell announced plans to build this back in 2012. but perhaps what we'll hear from the president is that if they do re-elect him to a second term, there will be many more plants like this. certainly, the president standing behind the natural gas industry in the united states. brooke? >> jeremy, thank you there in pennsylvania. we'll listen in. catherine rampell is an opinion
columnist for "the washington post" and a cnn political commentator. so why do you think the president delayed the tariffs until december? >> i think there were two core reasons. one is that he was really worried about consumer blowback. he actually even said today that he decided to delay these tariffs because he didn't want them to effect the christmas holiday shopping season, which is a little bit at odds with his claim that consumers are not paying the tariffs, you know, he's trying to save china money for the u.s. holiday shopping season? but the other issue, of course, is the risk of recession, right? that economists, politicians, business leaders, business industry groups have been warning that the introduction of this latest round of tariffs is introducing more uncertainty and more costs. and that that could tip the balance here. >> do you think it's a coincidence that he delayed the tariffs and then, boom, he's speaking in western pennsylvania on the economy? >> it's hard to say. it certainly seems likely that if he were thinking ahead, that
he could have timed this announcement -- >> look at the markets. >> right, so he could say, look, the markets are rising. we had a great day with the dow today. however, of course, the reason why markets are rising is that they had fallen before in response to the threat of tariffs. so again, it's -- trump is sort of committing arson and taking credit for putting out the fire. >> is there any incentive for china to back down from this, now that trump walked back his tougher talk? >> it certainly doesn't seem that way. look, if anything, he has discredited his own argument that there's no pain for the united states, as a result of this trade war, which again, he has been saying pretty consistently until today. and china has now realized that there's a pain threshold that they can take advantage of and of course, we have an election next year, they do not. so if anything, it looks like -- that trump has basically been caught in a lie, he's been bluffing all along, which arguably china already knew, but this reinforced that.
and beyond that, you know, it sort of makes him look weak. if china was going to cry uncle, they would have cried uncle already. it's not clear how announcing the tariffs and delaying the tariffs and announcing the tariffs and delaying them again -- >> because he's running on the strong economy, why gamble like that? >> i think he's genuinely confused about the wisdom of his trade wars. i think he really doesn't understand what accounts for the trade deficit. the fact that these tariffs do hurt u.s. consumers, u.s. businesses. sometimes that message seems to get through. again, he seems to have been responding to market declines recently that were reinforcing that response. but, you know, i think he's genuinely confused. and again, the economy is the only good thing he has going for him right now. arguably, it was the right thing to do by pulling back, on at least some of these tariffs. some of them still will go into effect on september 1st, by the way. most of them have been delayed
or canceled, but some of the damage has already been done here. why would you hire investing a new factory given the uncertainty of the trade environment, given the uncertainty of the business environment. you need to know the rules of the road and it's impossible to know that under this investigation. >> catherine rampell, thank you very much. we have new details this afternoon. the case of jeffrey epstein. what we have learned about fbi raids of his property and how one of the most high-profile prisoners in the country was left unmonitored. plus, a michigan police officer is under investigation today. how the discovery of kkk documents hanging up in a frame in his home opens up new questions about the officer's fatal shooting of a black man? and the sacred words on the statue of liberty. how trump's top immigration official is twisting them to defend the president's new rule. you are watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. hi, i'm joan lunden. when my mother began forgetting things,
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and we are learning just who was watching the 66-year-old when he apparently hanged himself in his jail cell on saturday. a source says at least one of the employees assigned to monitor him was essentially a fill-in guard. not even someone part of the regular detention workforce. epstein's suicide inside the mcc, the metropolitan correctional center in new york city has robbed his victims of seeing justice against the man who violated them, so say their lawyers. and the detail here adds to this mosaic of regularity surrounding his death. the source adds that epstein's cell mate was moved out the day before epstein took his own life, that that went against protocol. that he was supposed to have a cell mate. the rules state an inmate just removed from suicide watch, as epstein had been, must have a roommate. plus, the source says it was hours before anyone realized that epstein had actually killed himself, also against protocol, which mandates a check on him every half an hour. michael daly is a special
correspondent for the daily beast. he wrote this piece about epstein's prison, mcc, where he died, is a place that time forgot. so hello, friend. you've been in there, you've been in the mcc more times than you care to recount. so you know this place. you know how claustrophobic it was. you said it was the first high rise jail ever. >> as far as i know, yeah. >> so how the heck could this have happened? was it just seriously the lack of guards? >> well, it's not just the lack -- i mean, there were two officers there, but it's a question of who were the officers and what kinds of lives had they been leading? more than a year ago, the officer's union came forward and said, listen, there's a real problem at the mcc. we don't have enough officers. the officers we do have are being forced to work overtime, sometimes 16, 17 hours a day. and then when they get off of that, there's no one to relieve them, they've got to work a couple of hours, they can't afford to live in manhattan, they've got to commute, and some
of them say, by the time i get home, i'll have to turn around, so i'll sleep in my car. >> they sleep in their cars. >> so then they go back to a place, and to be a corrections officer is a very tough job in any circumstances. i mean, you're basically doing time with people. and it's a dangerous job, it's emotionally draining, it's depressing. and to add all of that on top of it, then you have -- that was one of the officers on duty. the other officer on duty was -- had been what they called augmented. that means that you received a little bit of training at the beginning of your career, but since then, you've either been a clerk, an engineer or you've done maintenance or kept the ventilation going. >> your job is not to be a security guard. >> all of a sudden, you get told, hey, you're coming in and you're going to be a corrections officer. not only a corrections officer, but the special housing unit, which is the unit for disciplined and protected people, right? so you're given the toughest assignment in the place, right?
and on top of that, you're probably also working overtime. and then you've got to figure that that's been going on for a long, long time, which degrades the whole morale of the place, because there aren't maintenance people, enough maintenance people, the place starts falling apart physically. and when you're in a place that falls apart physically, you start getting a little frayed mentally. >> i mean, falling apart physically, you describe it in your piece. >> you go in, there's mold, water leaks, roaches, rats. the ventilation doesn't really work. the cells are either broiling hot or freezing cold. it's a mess. and the one -- you know, there's always little telling details in -- you know, the lawyers are not allowed to bring in watches or phones. so they go up to meet with their clients -- first of all, it takes forever to meet their clients, because a lot of times there aren't enough officers to get at the door and get them up. but then, there are wall clocks,
right? so they look at the wall clocks, that's fine, but there's no batteries in any of the wall clocks. so it literally is a place that time forgot, because the wall clocks don't even work. i mean -- and then you say it's a conspiracy. it's a conspiracy that people, like most things that happen like that, it's a conspiracy of dunces, is what it is. >> a conspiracy of dunces. you open and you close your whole piece about attorney general bill barr and how he is calling and demanding like every three hours, how this man could have taken his life, given the fact that he was supposed to be monitored. and so it sounds to me that this is bill barr, but this is trump's jpd. therefore, this situation falls under bill barr. >> it does! he knew in april, he testified, that he knew about augmentation pb and there had been a hiring freeze before he got there. and to give him a little bit of credit, he ended that hiring freeze in april. but if you've got a long-term hiring freeze, you don't just
all of a sudden get corrections officers the next day. but it's been going on for years and it's gotten worse and worse and worse. and that union more than a year ago, there's a magnificent woman who runs the officer's union named serene greg. and she more than a year ago said this is a serious situation. and when i talked to her yesterday, she said, you know, it was inevitable what was going to question. it was just a question of who. >> a matter of who was going to be able to do what he did over the weekend. michael daly, your reporting is excellent. thank you very much. >> thank you. coming up next, a police officer on leave after this kkk document is found hanging on a wall in his home. hear from the african-american man who actually found it and why it's raising new questions about an old case. and no more huddled masses yearning to breathe free. trump's top immigration official is rewriting the words of the statue of liberty poem.
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a man who was just looking to purchase a new home in michigan says he found racist material inside this police officer's home in muskegon, which is about three hours outside of detroit. he said while checking out the home of officer charles anderson that he spotted confederate flags and then it was this, this kkk application inside of a plaque that was hang ongt wall when he said, let's get out of here. our cnn's nick valencia is following this one for us. so you talked to one of the -- one of the home buyers who's now facing threats. what's the story? >> it's been a few days, brooke, since robert mathis and his family toured this home, but says he's still disgusted and
debated on whether or not he should go public with what he saw, but ultimately he felt that not only the public should be made aware, but really the township patrolled by officer anderson, this officer in question, that they should be made aware of what he has hanging in his home. as a result of going public, it was earlier this week that police arrived at home to notify him of a credible threat made against him. they were both scared by what they saw. going into this home, they were looking for a home with a bigger acreage and they saw a whole wing of the house dedicated to confederate flags, even the place mats has a confederate flag theme. but what really shocked him was what he saw hanging on the wall, which was a blank kkk application. and he says everyone has a right to hang whatever they want in their home, but what makes this significant, according to robert mathis, is that this was in the home of a police officer. somebody who has authority over the community. this is what he told me in our
conversation earlier. >> he is displaying the number one hate organization in america. how can you an officer of the law uphold everyone person's right and protect the public, have those type of views and make justifiable decisions and do your job at 100% capacity for blind justice? how can you do that? >> leaving the home, he felt like he says that he needed to be dipped in sanitizer afterwards. and there's no doubt in his mind. he said he doesn't need to meet officer anderson, by seeing what he saw in his home, brooke, he feels as though this officer is a racist. we want to be clear. we did reach out to officer anderson. he declined to comment. his wife did give an interview to a local affiliate. they asked her point-blank, is your husband a member of the
klan. she laughed, she said "no." we should also say that a formal investigation has been launched into this officer who's now been put on administrative leave. brooke? >> so off of that last point, if they're launching an investigation, are they looking at past cases? how will they approach cases going forward? >> according to our local affiliate, this same officer shot and killed a man in 2009, a shooting that was found to be justified. that man was a black man said to be running away from an officer after they got into a scuffle in an alleyway. according to robert mathis, who is the man who toured this home, his family wanted to buy this home, he says it raises a lot of questions as to what kind of encounters this officer had, particularly with people of color and whether or not they were treated fairly, according to mathis, this raises all sorts of questions and i'm sure a lot of people have questions as well. brooke. >> what a story. let us know what they find. nuk valencia, thank you very much. it is being called possibly one of the worst nuclear accidents since chernobyl and
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president took office, but today his chief immigration officer suggested that this precious piece of american history be rewritten. in an interview with npr, ken cuccinelli was asked about the administration's new rule for those seeking legal status and a possibility penalty for using public benefits like food stamps and welfare, even if they are employed. >> many people in those jobs don't make enough money to make ends meet. are they less qualified to become american because they earn less? >> if they don't have future prospects of being legal permanent residents without welfare, that will be counted against them, yes. and that is the point of the rule. >> would you also agree that emma lazarus' words etched on the statue of liberty, give me your tired, your poor, are also part of the american ethos? >> they certainly are, give me your tired, your poor who can stand on their own two feet and
who will not become a public charge. >> you just heard npr's rachel martin's voice there. she is the reporter who conducted that interview. rachel, thank you so much for joining me today. >> you bet, brooke. >> so your reaction when he said that back to you? >> well, you know, it was a little surprising to hear mr. cuccinelli actually revise emma lazarus' poem on the spot in realtime. but obviously, president trump has made illegal immigration a key part of his platform and his time in the white house. i think what's notable here is this is about legal immigration. this is about people who came to this country, did everything right. crossed their ts, dotted their is. they're working in some cases. as was illustrated in that clip and can't make ends meet for whatever reason for a couple of months a year, perhaps, need to get on public assistance. that's now going to be a major ding against them. their application for a green card can either be delay ordinary outright revoked. and that is a substantial change in how the u.s. government has
determined who gets to be an american citizen. >> well, there is now more to this conversation you had with ken cuccinelli, because the president of the united states was just asked about his comments to you. here he was. >> i am tired of seeing our taxpayers paying for people to come into the country and immediately go on to welfare and various other things. >> so do you think the president just took this a step further? >> well, you know, what the administration is going to have to grapple with, and this is the complicated part of this rule change, this is about looking into a crystal ball and trying to predict the future for people. because, yes, this is going to affect people who are already on public assistance, right? that's going to be a red flag on their applications. but this is also about people who the administration is going to try to determine whether or not they could go on public assistance. so that's a whole different game. looking at a life and trying to measure, is this person going to be a successful american?
and how do you determine that? >> how do you figure that out? >> the entire american dream is built on the idea of defying the odds. and this seems to run counter to that. >> and again, the rule change goes into effect october 15th. i want to play one more clip. i remember this happened during our show just a couple of years ago, because this isn't the first time the administration has disregarded that famous inscription on lady liberty. this was stephen miller speaking to our own jim acosta. this was two years ago. >> the statue of liberty says give me your tired, quyour poor your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. it doesn't say anything about speaking english or being a computer programmer. >> the statue of liberty is a symbol of liberty of american liberty lighting the world. the poem that you're referring to was added later and is not part of the actual statue of liberty. >> rachel, why does this administration not seem to understand the significance, the
symbolism behind this poem and this monument? >> because they'll say it's not the law. that emma lazarus' poem is a poem. but i think what people are having such a hard time with is those words have bearing on how we see ourselves. it is part of the american story. if america is a country about ideas, which it is, this runs counter to that idea that you can come to this country with nothing. how many stories have you heard? i came to this country with nothing. my father came with nothing. my father came with nothing. >> so many. >> and we made a life here. and they became successful americans. and that is is core of what this is about. trying to decide, who gets to come in, who's worth the risk? >> npr host, rachel martin. and i should also point out, ken cuccinelli will be on erin tonight at 7:00 eastern here on cnn. rachel, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. the president just claimed the top republican in the senate now supports background checks.
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a comedian is taking on social media trolls who tried to extort her by beating them to the punch. stand-up comic whitney cummings says she accidentally posted a partially topless photo on instagram and before she could delete it, some people screen grabbed the image and demanded money to keep it private. her response, she tweeted the original photo for the entire world to see. and we've censored the photo, because we're on television, but cummings says, quote, when a woman in the public eye is extorted, we have to spend time, money, and energy dealing with it, hiring lawyers and security experts and living with a pit in our stomach about when and how we will be humiliated. y'all can have my nipple, but not my time or money anymore. areva martin is a civil rights
attorney and cnn analyst. good for you, whitney cummings. what do you make of the way she's publicly fighting this? >> hashtag girl power is all i could say. when i saw her response, i was like, yes, go, whitney. reclaiming her power and her image! and what a way to say to would-be, you know, people who would try to extort others and use their image in this way, what a way to say to them, i will not be bullied. i will not be intimidated, and i'm not going to pay you any money! that's what i love about her response. it was so powerful and so forceful. and i think it sends a strong message, for those who would try to extort others, not this woman. not on her watch. >> don't mess with whitney cummings. now, she also said that she is not going to post the names of some of these extortionists, because she said, to quote her, some of them just might be dumb kids. but if she chose, areva, if she chose to hand over some of those threats to police, what kind of legal trouble could they actually be in?
>> well, significant. because about 30 states now, brooke, have these revenge porn laws, which essentially make it a crime for someone to use an image, an illicit image of you and try to extort money from you, you know, threaten you. if that you don't pay me "x" amount, i'll publish this photograph, this new photograph to the world. that's a crime in about 30 stays. there's not only the criminal aspect, but also civil penalties. he could also, you know, find out who these people are that sent her these messages and file civil lawsuits and seek civil damages from these individuals. but i also love that, you know, she's not going to do that. you know, i'm a lawyer, so i love when lawyers get hired. that's what we do to make a living. but she said, no lawyers, no investigators, because this just might be some dumb kid that's trying to, you know, get some publicity for himself. and she says rather than do this, i'm going to just publish this image. anybody that wants to see it, look. here it is. have at it! not only is she making a
powerful statement, but perhaps saving someone that might find themselves in a lot of trouble. >> i hear you on the message about her. like, people shouldn't be messing with her because of how she's responding the way she is. but do you think, overall, as you point out, revenge porn is a thing, do you think this will send a broader message to people, just don't do this? >> yeah, i hope so. we've seen a lot of high-profile cases where celebrities have had their social media accounts hacked and people have gotten access to their nude photographs and they've had to go to the police and had to launch investigations and they've had to even file civil lawsuits as well as go to prosecutors' offices file claims. so there is recourse if this does happen to you. and i encourage anyone that finds themselves in this position, because you might not have the platform that whitney has. she's a stand-up comic. she's on netflix. she has this huge platform, so she's able to do this and gain media attention. someone who doesn't have her platform may not find themselves
in that same situation. and they may have no recourse, with other than going to the authorities. and i think, and i encourage those people to do so. because you should not be extorted. you should not be bullied. you should not be intimidated. and you should not be publicly ashamed for pictures that you take of yourself or you have others take that belong to you. because you control your own image and you should be the one to decide whether it's published to the world or not. >> yes. yes!martin, thank you very much. >> thanks, brooke. moments from now, a new development into the investigation in that mass shooting in dayton, ohio. we're standing by for news there. al also, the president blinks in his trade war with china. the big move he just made as more warnings come from wall street. ♪ ♪ ♪ applebee's handcrafted burgers now starting at $7.99 now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.
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breaking news now in the case of jeffrey epstein. the justice department has now temporarily reassigned the ward at the metropolitan correctional center in new york. let's get right to justice correspondent jessica schneider. jessica, what's the story here? >> reporter: brooke, the justice department just now announcing these significant changes at the metropolitan correctional center. of course, all in the wake of jeffrey epstein's apparent suicide over the weekend. so what the attorney general has just announced is that they are temporarily reassigning the ward of mcc. he will be moved to the bureau of prisons northeast regional office. this is all while the fbi and the inspector general, their investigations play out. in addition, the bureau of prisons has also placed the two staff members who were assigned to epstein's cell, they are now being placed on administrative
leave. of course, again, all while these investigations play out. and we heard from the attorney general yesterday and over the weekend. he did not hold back, brooke, in his emotions. he talked about how appalled and angered he was by epstein's apparent suicide. and then he mentioned yesterday at a talk down in new orleans, he talked about the apparent irregularities at mcc, the correctional center where this apparent suicide happened over the weekend. and you know, now, the doj through the bureau of prisons, they are taking swift action here. a new acting ward has been named to fill that slot from the ward that has now been moved. that new ward will be taking over from otisville prison, just north of new york city, where michael cohen is actually serving his sentence. that ward will now move to mcc to oversee it. and then, of course, you have these two staff members who are being put on administrative leave. and brooke, we reported last night that on the night of epstein's suicide, at least one of those two employees on duty was just filling in as a guard.
you know, it wasn't part of the regular detention workforce. it's unknown really what that person's regular position was. so now a lot of changes at this correctional facility, all as these investigations from the fbi and the inspector general are ongoing here. brooke? >> jessica schneider, thank you for the update. ward reassigned. we got it! we're also learning that another officer with the new york police department has died by suicide. his death marks the eighth nypd officer to take his life this year. six have happened since june, already double their yearly average. cnn national correspondent brynn gingras is with me now. and i know you talked to the commissioner about this recently, but what's going on! >> i mean, that's the question, right? >> so tragic. >> this is so tragic and these are not the records they want to be setting at this point. we know that. let's talk about this officer. what we know about him, he was 35 years old, he was on the force for just seven years. there were officers who were texting me today saying, he wasn't even on that long.
he was assigned to do detail around yankee stadium and he took his own life not while on duty. he was off-duty. there -- you know, he left a suicide note. that hasn't happened yet, at least as far as we know, with other suicides that have happened. so maybe that will give us some insight, some answers, or at least the department some answers to try to help figure this out. because they're doing steps, they're making moves, they're evolving as the commissioner told me. but there's still work that needs to be done, clearly. >> what did commissioner o'neil say? >> he's always said he's a cop's cop. so he takes these personally. and i sat down with him after seventh suicide. and he had just gotten back after consoling that family. he was quite emotional. one of the questions, aside from talking about the protocols that they are putting in place, which is peer-to-peer counseling and getting the chiefs some training, he talked about his fears and one of those questions i asked him is, are you scared
this is going to happen again, remember, before today? take a listen. >> are you scared it's going to happen again? when you -- >> am i scared? uh, i got to be honest with you, yeah, i am. you know, maybe there's somebody out there right now that's in crisis or approaching crisis and is just unable or unwilling to come forward. this is a job that's difficult, but it's necessary. and when we do it effectively, we save lives. >> you know, and the commissioner admits, brooke, that there's not all good cops. there are some bad cops, right? but he says if the community could somewhat just help ease the burden on how much cops have to go through, that might also help, aside from all the changes that they're making in the department. they said, they don't live separate lives. it's not like when we go home from work, we can put work aside maybe and spend time with our
family. they see murders and they see people in the worst conditions possible. and then they go home and he said, you know, who are you going to talk to about that? you can't talk to your wife or your kids about that. you have to internalize all of that and they think that's a big problem, along with the stigma with coming forward. so there's a lot of issues that they're tackling right now. nypd, but this certainly did not help. i don't think he expected this. i think he expected the changes they were making were going to prevent a suicide, but here we are again. >> eight. and you feel for their families, you feel for the families in blue. britain, thank you so much for calling that to our attention and talking to the commissioner. thank you. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> here we go. hour two. you are watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. any minute now, we will hear from investigators with an update on that mass shooting in downtown dayton, ohio, that killed nine and wounded more than two dozen others. as soon as the news conference begins, we'll bring that to