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adjustment to the bedrock of the nation's economy. the labor department is now saying, between april of 2018 and march of this year, there were half a million fewer jobs created than they actually originally thought. it's all adding to the worries of a slowdown, it comes as we're getting word of a more worrisome speed up. the deficit ballooning much faster than expected. you can see this orange line on your screen, the deficit now on track to hit $1 trillion in fiscal year 2020, which starts in september. that is several years earlier than the cbo first projected. maya mcginnis is head of the organization. why is the deficit growing faster than initially thought? >> it's all self-imposed. in many ways, the economy is helping us, interest rates are stunningly low. so we have savings there, much
more than compensating for that, is the fact that we have passed unpaid for tax cuts, unpaid for spending increases. congress is fast passing deficit finance legislation so quickly, i believe the president has signed in over $4 trillion of debt increases into law. and no surprise -- >> is that what you mean by self-imposed? >> this is coming from legislation that congress is passing. and the president is signing, so this in many ways is reflective not of a weak fiscal situation that comes from the economy, but it comes from our politicians, and that's the problem. >> what does this mean for families? how does it impact them on an every day level? >> families are struggling in so many ways in terms of wage growth, jobs, economic security. uncertainty that's there, and there's a huge looming national debt that nobody really sees affecting them directly. in many ways, it's the underpinnings of the overall
economy. with debt too high, it means wages could slow, there could be fewer jobs. 23 and when you do go into a recession, not only could that high debt in some ways bring about slower economic growth, it makes it harder to fight. last time we had a recession, the debt relative to the economy was half the level that it is today. if we need to do large amounts of fiscal stimulus, we emptied that toolbox ahead of time, and it leaves us less prepared to fight a recession. >> a worse situation for us going into it. what about back to those jobs numbers. there are other signs of a contracting manufacturing index. jobs number revised by 500,000. i know the job market is tight, there are more jobs than people to fill them. what do you make of that. >> there are mixed signals right now, all around the economy, i would add additional ones on the negative side. which is the level of uncertainty. our policy making is like -- gives you whiplash day by day,
if not hour by hour. that kind of uncertainty is never good for markets, never good for the underlying economy, it's never good for consumers. the level of uncertainty is huge. on the longer term, we have big challenges that actually mean growth will be much slower going-forward from huge shifts in demographics, to the fact that we have this big debt load that we haven't addressed and we have earn titlement programs that are unprepared to deal with these things. we have immediate questions, given how long the expansion has been, near record levels, it's another warning that it's probably time for the business cycle to start to tip, we have an on going struggle to help get economic growth going in a longer term. and coming back full circle to those dealt numbers, having a larger debt means fighting any and all of these short and long term problems much more difficult. >> i hear you loud and clear, i'm hoping others do as well. when it comes to the economy the stakes are high, and that then provides the backdrop to the president unleashing that 6,000
word rant before reporters, this is all part of the day in which the president retweeted himself as the king of israel. hailed himself the chosen one, flip-flopped on gun background checks. blamed the fed and the media, for creating the recession put even more rules on migrants. and that's far from all. take note of this detail from the new york times. some former trump administration officials in recent days said they were increasingly worried about the president's behavior, suggesting it stems from rising pressure on mr. trump as the economy seems more worrisome and next year's election approaches. with that in mind, evan macmullan, i'm talking to you now, he's a former cia official and developed house republican f. there are people who watched president trump in front of reporters yesterday and they
would cast it off as trump being trump. yesterday evan was a lot. what do you think it was about? >> i think it's largely about the economy, the president has a super high approval rating within the republican party, 10 to 15% of republicans are strongly opposed to the president, there's another 25% of republicans who are supportive of the president, but with a lot of reservations. and a lot of them have made that decision to support the president. the economy has been doing well for them. and so as long as that's the case, and that trade -- they're willing to make that trade, the president's approval rating within the party remains strong. but we are in the year 10 of the longest economic expansion in our country's history. and there are signs of a recession in the equity markets, we're seeing labor numbers
revised down from the past year, as maya said, it's difficult now because of some of the president's own decisions, if there is a severe economic downturn for him to respond to that, in a real way, and so i think he's seeing those two things and he's worried, he's heading into a primary season, he's in a primary season now, where more and more republicans are talking about challenging him. and he doesn't -- i think he's worried about that 25% that support him now, but that might not if the economy turns south. >> using maybe today or right now as the goal post into november of 2020, when you look at just as a snapshot of the last week, let's say, flip-flopping on background checks and the king of israel retweet, and i'm the chosen one when it comes to taking on china, wanting to buy greenland. this is also self-impose d of al of that. what concerns you the most?
>> "think what concerns me, we should all be concerned about the prospects for an economic downturn. perhaps overdue we are for that. i'm worried about that. as that happened, and as he's unable to respond to it, he's going to work extra hard to divide us. he's going to talk about ending birth right citizenship. he's going to put in new policies, so he can keep immigrant children in detention in cages, indefinitely. >> as a distraction? >> as a distraction, but more than that. part of the republican party is supporting the president, not because of the economic benefits as others see it, because they like this culture war that he fights. i think what he's going to do, his re-election strategy is about the economy, if it's there for him, and about this culture
war that he fights. i think we can expect more erratic divisive policy making going-forward. i think that's where he's headed. >> what about all the republican voters. we know that former republican joe walsh is flirting with challenging president trump. something you know quite a bit about from 2016 run. what's your advice to him or anyone who wants to take him on. >> they need my advice, i'll tell you that i certainly do appreciate those who are about thing into the race. 10 to 15% of the republican party doesn't feel represented by president trump or by the current direction of the party, they feel like they have no voice, no representation in all of this.
>> it's more than that. the additional 25% of republicans. they have strong concerns still about him and the direction of the party. and these candidates, joe walsh, mark sanford potentially as well. governor weld, of course. they are giving voice to republicans who are opposed to the president, but also those who have concerns, and we'll see what happens in the next 14 months. even six months in these economic conditions and this political environment isn't -- is an eternity, and anything can happen. if so there are others who are looking at jumping in the race. whether it's governor kasich or hogan in maryland. >> evan macmullan, thank you very much. jeffrey epstein's subpoenas,
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breaking news this afternoon in the death of financier, jeffrey epstein, multiple correctional officers who work at that new york city presidentpresidenison where epstein committed suicide have subpoenaed a grand jury. shimon prokupez is the one breaking this story. talk to me about these subpoenas? >> significant move here by federal investigators. how did jeffrey epstein wind up dead inside his jail sell.
everyone knows now from the medical examiner and believes this was a suicide. but what led up to this, and that is what federal investigators have tried to find out. they is a peened in a two guards in trying to get to the bottom of what happened here, one of the things that i think this reveals is that many of the guards have not been cooperating with the fbi, with federal investigators as they started this investigation. and so as a result federal investigators felt the need and it being necessary to subpoena these folks, just so they can get answers as to what led up to his death. one of the things they're looking at is what kind of irregularities have we heard. they want to get a better idea, they're looking at things like paperwork, records, indicating that prison guards were checking in as they were supposed to
every 30 minutes on epstein, on jeffrey epstein, were they doing it, and if they weren't were they falsifying records to indicate that they were? that's the big question, what was going on here, and were folks lying at the jail about what they were doing, whether or not they were keeping an eye on jeffrey epstein, brooke. >> you know they're trying to get to the bottom of that, thank you for breaking the story for us. since the shooting in dayton, a disgruntled hotel employee has been arrested with a detailed plan and arsenal of guns. dad, we need to talk about something important. you don't need to go anywhere dad, this is your home. the best home to be in is your own. home instead offers personalized in-home services
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we seem to be talking about this every day now, police spoiling plots to inflict violence in death with mass shootings. in the days since dayton and el paso, there have been now at least 29 arrests, that means 29 people arrested across the country for threats to commit mass shootings, kill innocent people at schools, stores, health clubs and places of worship. the latest was tuesday in california. a disgruntled marriott hotel cook told a hotel worker he was going to shoot and kill everyone inside the hotel. once police arrested the cook, they found an arsonenal of firepower within this man's home. >> we are waiting for a long beach police department. we're waiting for the first appearance of this suspect in court. we know monday evening this cook at that marriott in long beach
apparently told a co-worker that he was annoyed about something that had happened at work, it was something to do with the human resources department, and that he was planning a mass casualty attack. according to the police chief, he said anybody else who came into the hotel. that police chief has said if that co-worker had not passed this tip on he is sure that lives would have been lost. take a listen to a little more of what the chief had to say. >> the suspect had clear plans intent and the means to carry out an act of violence that may have resulted in a mass casually incident. >> now, you mentioned that cash of weapons that was found in that man's home. now, in it that cash, there were assault rifles that were not legal in california, high capacity magazines, also illegal
here in california, that was tactical gear, as the chief said, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, enough to carry out a huge mass casualty event. now, this man did not have a previous criminal record that would have been flagged on any background checks. and the chief stressing time and time again how important this tip was. in this day and age, we are obliged to act, to pass on these tips, to pass on anything we think is suspicious. >> if you say something, see something, which we were all taught in the days after 9/11. then we were being told to look outwards now this chief is saying we should be looking inwards, into our own communities, looking for those killers within our own communities. >> have to say something, if you do see something. thank goodness for this tip.
nick watts appreciate you bringing us this story from california. while authorities have been busy preventing gun violence, federal lawmakers are still on vacation. president trump who is not on vacation, has offered zero solutions in the almost three weeks since the shootings in el paso and dayton. fred guttenberg lost his daughter jamie in the parkland school shooting. he met with president trump after the fact. he feels betrayed, he feels angry, and now this. mr. president he's basically saying, put up or shut up. >> my daughter died in parkland. i live with that every second of every day. he lied to me and all the other victims that day. and he's done it again since the other mass shootings. when he talks about doing the right thing for a brief second, then he says, but i spoke to the nra and he walks away from it.
so mr. president, let me tell you something, i don't care about you. i don't care about you, i care about what you do. and i hate what you are doing, you are using the pain of the victims of gun violence to speak in a way that allows you to look like you're going to do something, but only to play games with their emotions and not do it in the end. i don't care about you, mr. president, but i hate what you do. it is time for you to stop talking on this topic and until you are ready to give mitch mcconnell the go ahead to open up the senate and take on legislation. enough, stay out of this, keep your mouth quiet unless you're ready to actually be a serious participant in this conversation, just stop. >> fred guttenberg's daughter jamie, would have turned 16 last month. and as the president is taking heat on a number of fronts including that anti-semitic trope.
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doubled down on an anti-semitic trope. helped advance russian foreign policy, joked that he would like to award himself a medal of honor, endorsed a comparison of him to a king, and defied himself -- defined himself as the chosen one. his actions may not be a surprise to some of his political rivals, especially when you remember what they said about him during the campaign. hindsight is 2016, meaning some of them predicted what the nation is witnessing now. for that, let's go to chris cillizza, talk to me. >> we can't say we weren't warned. there's a bunch of them. we have a lot of sound that donald trump told us about him back then. let's start, ted cruise out of all things, denmark. >> we need someone with judgment and the temperament to keep this
country safe. i don't know anyone who would be comfortable who behaves this way having his finger on the button. we would wake up one morning and donald if he were president he would have nuked denmark. that's not the temperament of a leader to keep this country safe. >> nuking denmark. okay, led's move on, ted cruz again on how donald trump attacks people. >> you know, donald can't defend his own records, whenever you point out what he's actually said, he just screams liar, he insults you, attacks you and makes it personal. he gets very rattled. he doesn't like anyone pointing to his substantive records. >> there's lots of examples of ted cruise being right about this. someone asked him whether the whole dual loyalty thing,
whether that was anti-semitic. it's only anti-semitic in your head. moving on, jeb bush on what donald trump's presidency would look like. >> he's a chaos candidate. and he'd be a chaos president. he would not be the commander in chief we need to keep our country safe. >> i mean, look at this week alone. jeb bush was right, people may have wanted more chaos than they thought they were getting. trump's former rivals are now his buddies and in the administration, one is rick perry. here's what he said about donald trump back during the campaign. >> he offers a barking carnival act that can best be described as trumpism. a toxic mix of demagoguery and mean spiritedness and nonsense that will lead the republican
party to perdition if pursued. >> that's a remarkable thing. one last one, don't worry about that, one last one, hillary clinton, remember her? she ran against donald trump in the general election. she made some predictions about his presidency too. let's play that. >> i don't want to rip families apart, i don't want to be sending parents away from chern, i don't want to see the deportation force that donald has talked about in action in our country. >> i mean, talk about predicting donald trump's child separation zero tolerance policy, continuing to be a massive humanitarian and political problem. so we knew and his opponents knew, a lot of the american public knew what they were getting with donald trump, all of their concerns were overwhelmed by the fact that they wanted radical change and he was the only candidate who
represented him. what 2020 is about is this kind of change they want. >> stunning listening to the sound bytes now. how they're all supporters now. >> some even in his cabinet. >> yes. >> thanks for that blast from the past. those former rivals may have predicted those decisions, two of his advisers are absent. ivanka trump and jared kushner. we know they've been on vacation, it's the summer, but what are your sources telling you? >> this is a pattern that has emerged throughout this administration. when there are particularly controversial weeks in the white house, his top two advisers are usually out of the public eye. this has been one of those weeks where the president has been rotating between these controversies, what he's going
to do if he's going to do anything, pushing for background checks, gun control over all. and various other things, retweeting conspiracy theorists. you've seen ivanka and jared kushner remain under the radar. they went to wyoming over the weekend for a family vacation. they went to a trump fund-raiser on monday night, other than that, they really had this limited presence here back at the white house, even as the president and his aids have been dealing with the firestorms, some of his own making. including the feud he's had with the danish prime minister over the last several days. it's adding to this pattern you've seen, where even the white house has insisted they've been involved in certain talks. certain discussions. you saw them leave town, when the government was shut down. you've seen them conveniently be out of the loop when the president is facing controversy or backlash over certain topis.s
>> jews who don't support are disloyal. we know jared and ivanka are modern orthodox jews. have they spoke tonight president? >> that was another thing that highlighted their absence. the president dents fight with the four democratic congress women was a good idea. he took it too far when he made this remark. typically in events like this, there will be people who advise the president, we've asked the white house if jared kushner and ivanka trump have spoken with the president about this remark he's made, they did not get back to us. typically ivanka trump doesn't weigh-in on the advice publicly she gives her father. there will be instances of what she's said to her father privately.
something typically about background checks, family separation. this has not been one of those instances where it's leaked out about the advice that ivanka trump has given her father about the comments he's making about jewish people that support democrats. >> kaitlyn, thank you. a disturbing concern for women across the country, doctors accused of using their own sperm for artificial insemination. why horrifying new cases of fertility fraud are just now coming to light. the stunning discovery that divers found on their first trip to the titanic in 14 years. they give us excellent customer otservice, every time.e. our 18 year old was in an accident. usaa took care of her car rental, and getting her car towed. all i had to take care of was making sure
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private jet that crashed in california walked away uninjured. the pilot had to abort takeoff because of complications causing this plane to slide off the runway. graphic packaging international is a paper products company. confirm that eight of its employees were on that plane. this is the same type of aircraft that crashed last week. of course both crashes are being investigated. also brand new today, stunning video revealing the titanic's shocking state of decay on the floor of the atlantic ocean. look at these pictures with me, as we look at this dramatic video of this manned dive. the first dive in 14 years, divers discovering the titanic's remains are being devoured by the ocean itself, by metal eating bacteria. the wreckage disintegrating into powder form and on track to fully disappear wrn two decades. with me now, tim taylor, who
knows the diving team that shot this new titanic video, you have some pretty stunning explorations and stories you can tell, looking at that video and seeing the decay, does it surprise you? >> it doesn't surprise me. the submarines have the same type of decay. mother nature claims things back, and that's what happens. this just happens to be a unique bacteria that eats metal or iron. >> should they take it back up to the surface or can they? what are the challenges of going that deep? >> the challenges are pressure. you're dealing with large -- tremendous amounts of pressure, typically, in today's submarine and exploration world, there's very few submersibles that can do that. the new one these guys are using was built by patrick leahy and his team. it goes full ocean depth.
it doesn't just do it once like past expeditions have done it. it's repeated it 30 plus times now. it's a real tool to get down to ocean depths. it's expensive, it takes time. this risk, i use robotics mostly in my work. when you put a person in there, there's a whole other element of safety and things you want to consider. because of the consequences. >> when you look at the remainders of this precious ship an the story and the history. how do they bring it back up or preserve it? >> it's an archeological site. if it's terrestrial or archaeology is a destructive force just as grave robbing is a destructive force. it brings back knowledge and baseline data for people to see what was there for years. so it's a big debate in the world, do you leave it? >> some people see it as grave
robbing. you would argue archaeology is all about protecting it, preserving it. >> telling the story, posteritp, the future. >> there's two camps to that. some families want to see the remains up, some don't. as time wears on and less direct decendents are involved, it tends to be more of an archeological -- swings that way. >> is it possible that one could eventually see the titanic above ground somewhere? >> i don't think it will ever be raised. but i think i see some importance of bringing back properly artifacts and having them available. that costs. companies that go out to do this kind of work, they have to fund it somehow. usually it's in museums or presentations, things of that nature. >> thank you. a manhunt is underway for a sniper who shot a sheriff's deputy from the building of a mental institution. we have those breaking details.
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the sperm to the patient and if all goes well, a baby results. by now, thanks to widely vabl dna testing. the children have discovered their biological fathers are actually their mother's fertility doctors. in the netherlands, one fertility specialist fathered 56 children who went to his clinic. dr. donald klein of indianapolis is 61 people's biological father. jacqueline morose is here with me now to talk about this. you start your piece and i want you to begin by telling the story of eve wiley. how did she discover her father was her mother's fertility doctor? >> so eve thought she knew her donor, he was donor 106 from california cryobank. and they had developed a
relationship. her kids called him papa and he had been to her wedding, when her son was 4 years old, he had celiac disease, which is her ed terry. she did a dna test and found that donor was not her father. she found a couple cousins and one of them told her that her uncle lived in the same town as her. its was her mother's fertility doctor. >> it seems like a profound violation in so many ways for a family. you quote a bioethicist who says, gross. the number of doctors sound like a few bad apples and a generalized process of
deception. >> why would doctors want to do this. >> in the '70s and early '80s there, wasn't very much frozen sperm available. so they had to use fresh. and fresh works a lot better than frozen in getting somebody pregnant if you think about sperm moving around. everyone so for some of them, i think it was easier, they had the supply right there. some of them it might have been a god complex. some of them were known to be very religious, may have wanted more children. it's not clear. >> i want to talk about the law. >> three states have passed law criminalizing this. if the health care provider uses human sperm, eggs or embryos from an unauthorized donor the law identifies the crime as a sexual assault. can you just talk to me about the importance of stat toot of
limitations in these cases. >> indiana is the only one who lifted the statute of limitations or sidestepped it. there you can still sue up to five years after you discover the deception not after it happened. most people find out when they're adults, that way they're able to sue the doctors. >> just thinking about all the people who do this. freezing eggs is one thing, embryos, and you think you know who your donor is, you have written quite a bit about this, so i found this quote from the reproductive law attorney. who told you, donor anonymity will suffer the same fate as the cassette tape. in other words, it doesn't exist any more. if anonymity is gone, what will that mean for donors? for all the people out there who need a donor to have a baby? >> i think donors need to know there is no more anonymity.
even though some of the fertility banks will still guarantee it. they really can't. somebody will find you eventually. it could go the way of england which does have limits of ten families per donor, and there is a little bit of a shortage there of sperm donors. the flip side is that people will actually know who their biological father is. >> especially with all these commercial dna tests. it's fascinating. thank you for coming on and sharing. the white house has dropped its attempt to eliminate up to $4 billion in foreign aid. a source tells cnn it was president trump's decision to abandon the plan in the face of opposition from lawmakers. the administration had hoped to make foreign aid more conditional. a similar plan was scrapped last
year as well as bipartisan backlash. brooke baldwin, top of the hour here, we begin with troubling new signs that the economy may be weakening. for one, america's manufacturing sector shrank for the first time in a decade. that index hasn't contracted since 2009. we're also learning about a major adjustment to the bedrock of the nation's economy. the strong jobs numbers. the labor department is now saying between april of 2018 and march of this year. there were half a million fewer jobs created than we originally thought. and it's all adding to the worries of a slowdown. just as new government deficits show the balloon is moving faster than expected. when you look at this screen, you see that orange line. that's now on track to hit $1 trillion in the fiscal year
2020. that's several years earlier than the cbo first projected the economy has been president trump's strongest bragging point as he tries to win re-election, his recent erratic behavior in which he retweeted himself as the concerning of israel and flip-flopped on gun background checks. snubbed denmark and even more led us to this quote from the new york times. some former administration officials said they were increasingly worried about the president's behavior. suggesting it stems from rising pressure on mr. trump as the economy seems more worrisome and next year's election approaches. gloria borger is with me. she's our chief political analyst, gloria, what we all witnessed yesterday on the north lawn, whether it's -- whether you want to call it a meltdown, mania or trump being trump. >> or all of the above. >> all of the above. >> yeah.