tv CNN Newsroom With Victor Blackwell and Christi Paul CNN August 31, 2019 7:00am-8:00am PDT
good morning to you, it is saturday, august 31st. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell, you are in the "cnn newsroom". >> hurricane dorian continues to intensify, yes, it is still getting stronger as it hetds towar heads towards the east coast. >> parts of the bahamas are bracing for a direct hit with predictions of extreme flooding and potentially deadly storm surges. >> the latest track shows the hurricane climbing up the east coast, not just florida now but georgia and south carolina all set to feel the impact here.
>> any moment now miami-dade's mayor is set to update us on their preparations for the storm. you're seeing a live picture on the right of your screen. we will bring that to you as soon as it starts. and we are on the scene covering dorian from every angle, you see our cnn crew spread out along the eastern coast. >> we want to get straight to cnn meteorologist allison ch chinchar with thee latest. >> the sustained winds are 145 miles per hour gusting to 165. the movement of the storm is still west at about 12 miles per hour, but the fascinating part comes from not one but two different hurricane hunter missions that are ongoing right now within dorian. this first one, this is the noaa mission picking up a wind speed of 157 miles per hour. this is important because that is technically a category 5 strength wind. sometimes you get these random ones so you always want to double check and get more data.
now we switch over to the air force reconnaissance flight that out there at the moment. they are also picking up category 5 strength winds at this point reaching up around the 160 miles per hour range. so let's get some more information on this. we want to bring in major chris dike, an aerial reconnaissance officer with the u.s. air force reserve. we've talked about this. when you look at the new numbers coming in, what sort of factors impact this data and information coming in? >> hey, allison, good morning. so we're looking at this data. there's a variety of different things that can be impacting, especially as the storm is strengthening or on the upswing, so a lot of times when we're going through storms like this, we'll experience significant updrafts and downdrafts and the thunderstorms as we're going through the feeder bands and into the eye wall, so this -- you know, some of these readings, you know, in and of themselves could be things like bursts of thunderstorm activity
as they're intensifying, but what we really try to key in on, especially as the meteorologists on board, we're trying to look at the overall flow. i'm trying to eliminate any of the smaller scale factors and trying to look at the larger flow of what's happening with the storm. so you know, it certainly is strong evidence if you've got two different aircraft that are kind of reading in that range, it certainly would not surprise me. what's more of what i'm picking up on with the current recon advan -- recon seasons flights going on is from center fix to center fix we're seeing a lowering of the pressure with each run through, which to me is more of a strength of the health and development of the storm than anything else. certainly it's still intensifying for sure. >> let's say you're the national hurricane center, you're looking at the same data because they have access to all of these numbers like we to. are they going to want more than one reason or are these readings
likely going to be enough for them to make some changes in the forecast? >> so whether -- so aerial weather reconnaissance is one piece of a larger picture, so the folks at the national hurricane center, they're really looking at the larger and the bigger picture of things. our aircraft reconnaissance could be coming in with one wind speed and they could be getting different day from other sources and places saying well, yeah, there's this, that, and the other. another thing to pick up on is where those wind speeds are occurring, right? if we're picking up on those winds at flight level, they may have surface readings that are saying something completely different. they're looking at the much broader and bigger picture of things. certainly it is a contributing factor in the decision-making process. >> okay. perfect, thank you so much. thank you again for joining us, that's major chris dyke. back to you. thank you so much. that is an ominous piece of video behind her. >> especially those numbers they
reported. >> the numbers and everything else. let's bring in cnn's rosa flores in miami. i'm sure you just heard what they were saying there. i know that miami technically out of the cone that they talk about, but it's really on the edge of it, so what are people doing? >> reporter: you know, people are still preparing. officials here are still asking people to be vigilant because of that factor, so let me give you a quick run through. the facts first here from the cnn weather center, miami is indeed outside of the cone of uncertainty. that is the good news. however, we are still expecting high category 1, low category 2 strength winds. that could cause power outages. we're also expecting heavy rain. that will cause flooding. here's the other good news. no storm surge is expected here, but take a look around me. i'm in a sandbagging station. you can see the crews here are working because officials are
still asking people to be vigilant. people here in miami beach have been in line getting these sandbags. there is seasonal king tide going on right now. so you don't even have to have rain in miami for water to start bubbling up and flooding some of these neighborhoods, so people here take this very seriously. they have been getting sandbags all morning, taking them to their homes, preparing, even though like i said according to our cnn weather center miami is outside of that cone of uncertainty. but i think the word for this hurricane is uncertainty, at least it has been so far. chr christi and victor. >> we are waiting for a news conference to start. carlos jimenez, the mayor of miami-dade scheduled to start here in a few moments.
t we will bring that to you. you see that podium there on the right of your screen. now, as we have said that dorian may have veered away from florida, still not clear of trouble. >> yeah, and governor ron desantis very well aware of that. listen to what he's saying. >> there is still significant chance of a strike on the state of florida. if you look at that cone, anyone inside that cone needs to be prepared. i think people are going to probably still understand, you know, that preparations need to be made and understand, even if it doesn't directly strike florida, you know, this is a big powerful storm, you're still looking at really significant storm surge on the east coast of florida. you're looking at major flooding events. >> now, listen, there are millions of senior citizens in florida, and gathering necessary food and water and medicine to try to ride out a storm, that alone can be difficult.
>> wendy lane from cnn affiliate wfts caught up with one woman in rural highlands county raising -- racing to prepare for hurricane dorian. >> in an hours long line of people desperately waiting for generators they're remembering hurricane irma. >> it was vur scary. >> hurricane force winds caused areas of highlands county to lose power for days, even weeks. now dorian is posing the same threat. >> and we pray to the lord that he keeps us safe and everybody else. >> 78-year-old paula cheney suffers from numerous health problems but not as many as her 82-year-old husband who she cares for. >> i'm giving him iv antibiotics at night, he's on an oxygen cons trait cons traitor. she explained how hard it's been to prepare. >> i'm not even thinking about it.
my mind is somewhere else right now. it has to be because i can't -- i can't wrap my mind around the whole thing, you know, so all i can do is just keep praying to the lord. >> he'll help you. god is good. >> and he was listening sending some hope in the form of 79-year-old june who was also listening. >> i'll call you. >> and offered to help paula and her husband with anything they need. >> give me a hug. >> i've needed help a lot of times. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> a community in rural florida embracing each other as they brace for the storm. >> we'll continue to follow that, but there is some breaking news we want to get to in hong kong. all morning protesters have been out there, take a look at this. they've withbeen setting fires. they've been setting up barricades, throwing petrol bombs, using lasers to try to disorient and confuse the police, and on the opposite end
of that, police are trying to control those crowds. you can hear this. you hear all the noise that's going on there? tear gas and water cannons with blue dye have been used by police, the blue dye, the reasoning for that is so they can later identify those protesters who they may want to arrest. >> now, you saw -- you can see the blue dye there. there's the video of them spraying the blue dye there. the time now 10:10 p.m. there in hong kong, and it's usually when the sun goes down late into the evening that any permitted protests turn into those more dangerous protests. that's what we're seeing here. the 13th weekend of this started with wanting an extradition bill. people who are charged in hong kong being extradited potentially to beijing for prosecution. protesters wanting that bill pulled. it was tabled. they also want the resignation of the chief executive of hong
kong, carrie lam. that has not happened. they want an ends to what they describe as police brutality. they want accountability for those officers. let's go now to our paula hancocks who's been on the scene for several hours now. what are the protests looking like now is this i see you've had the opportunity to take off the gas mask. that suggests that no tear gas in the air? >> reporter: well, that's right, yes. the air has cleared i'm happy to say, and you can see that the police are now starting to retreat. they've just all gone into their advanc vans. they're moving on to another area. there are some pockets of violence elsewhere in the city. here in causeway bay which is one of the high end areas, the shopping districts in hong kong, they have moved out. now, there were a number of passers by, people in nearby shops that came out to see their retreat, and they were being jeered and cheered as they were leaving, so it just shows that
passions are still very high here. i just want to show you over here to give you an idea of what some of these protesters have been doing, these are the bricks that they have pulled up from the streets here. i mean, this is the paving stones -- this was the pavement, the sidewalk at one point. that has all been pulled up, and these were what was being thrown at the police, which they then responded to with tear gas and also with the water cannon. and just over here, this is the area where a couple of hours ago we saw fires being burned. you can see that the protesters are trying to blockade some of these roads to make sure that police couldn't get through. now, they did manage to get through. the last hour we have seen a number of people being arrested. police systematically working their way down each street one by juone and making sure that whoever they believed was one of the ring leaders of this or one of the real hardcore troublemakers that they then have them in custody.
but it just shows 13 weekends this is now, the 13th consecutive weekend. this is showing no signs of letting up. >> not only that, i'm wondering it almost seems like it's getting worse week by week. paula hancocks, we appreciate it so much. thank you. listen to this, an arkansas woman, she was drowning in her car. she called 911 desperate for help. the newly released audio reveals that she spent the final minutes of her life being scolded by the 911 dispatcher. "cnn newsroom" brought to you by fasenra. for more information visit fasenra.com. called eosinophils in their lungs. eosinophils are a key cause of severe asthma. fasenra is designed to target and remove these cells.
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22 minutes, that's how long a newspaper delivery woman in arkansas pleaded for help. this was happening as flood waters started swallowing her suv. >> and now we have new audio of her 911 call that reveals a really disturbing reaction from the 911 dispatcher. cnn's polo sandoval following this from new york, and this is hard to listen to. >> you listened to that call yourselves. it is clearly upsetting to hear the desperation, to hear the panic in the voice of debra stevens. she's a 47-year-old whose final words were recorded a week ago during a 911 call that she made into the fort smith arkansas police. a back story, rising flood waters had started to overtake her suv as she was out on her
normal newspaper delivery route. then you listen to the audio released by police. it reveals the tone of a dispatcher that the police themselves are calling both callous and uncaring at times. i want to play you a portion of that 911 call, and again, a warning, the audio itself is extremely upsetting to hear. >> i don't want to die. >> you're not going to die. hold on for a minute. >> well, i need an officer, i'm sorry -- >> i understand that you're scared, but there's nothing i can do sitting in a chair. you're going to have to hold on, and i'm going to send you somebody. you're not going to die. i don't know why you're freaking out. >> i'm scared. >> i understand that. you're freaking out doing nothing but losing your oxygen up in there. so just calm down. >> when are they going to be here? >> as soon as they get there. >> i listened to the rest of the call, it does get even more disturbing as it goes on. debra stevens says quote, i'm scared. i've never had anything like this happen to me before. the dispatcher responds, this will teach you next time don't drive in the water. debra stevens says i'm going to
die. the dispatcher then responds, ms. debbie, you're breathing just fine because you're screaming at me, so calm down. i know you're scared. hold on for me. stevens is not heard again, and not long after that, rescuers did finally reach the suv about 58 minutes after the end of the call. sadly, they could not revive her. the interim police chief had this reaction to what you just heard. >> i completely understand the disgust and the concern that we all have. i understand that listening to a person going through the panic that ms. stevens was in those final moments of her life, and we would all hope that we would get a little bit better response than perhaps what she was given. i don't want us interacting with anybody in that way, whether it's a life and death situatio or not. absolutely no criminal, we've looked at that, and there's -- she did nothing criminally wrong. i'm not even going to go so far
as to say she violated policy. >> police say the dispatcher had turned in her two weeks notice before the call had come in, so she was, victor and christi working her last shift when she received a call from ms. stevens. just heard from the police chief, no criminal charges expected here, possibly no policy violations. it does beg a closer look at some of the tones used by dispatchers at that department. >> all right, polo sandoval, thank you for walking us through it. all right, coming up, hurricane dorian, the projection as of 10:20 eastern is that it won't have a florida landfall but a lot of people are getting out of town anyway, and there are long lines at the gas stations. we'll have a live report next. and senator bernie sanders says he's coming up with a plan to wipe out billions of dollars of medical debt. when you read the plan, you think, wait a minute, is he telling voters what they want to hear or is there some way to
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10:24, and here's what we know right now. hurricane dorian is already a major category 4 storm, and it is intensifying by the hour still as it turns towards the east coast. >> now, parts of the bahamas are bracing for a direct hit with predictions of extreme flooding and potentially deadly storm surges. >> the latest track shows the hurricane ending up or heading up the east coast. there is still question about exactly where it will make landfall, but anywhere from florida to georgia and into the carolinas is vulnerable here. >> so florida, you see the storm behind us, it's headed due west here. it may not get a direct hit from
the eye wall of dorian, but it's still going to get a lot of that rain and wind. florida's space coast is preparing for whatever the hurricane may bring. >> nasa is not taking chance. there's a space center spokesperson who said nasa's mobile launch platform is being moved inside. this is their only platform available for the space launch system, so they have to make sure it doesn't get any damage. nick valencia is in florida's space coast on cocoa beach. i know it looks beautiful right now, nick but with the way this storm is intensifying, i have to assume that the people down there are anxious really because they just don't know what's coming. >> reporter: it appears as though from the latest weather model florida will be spared a direct hit from hurricane dorian. that doesn't mean it's stopped preparations here. it was late last night that the brevard county sheriff's office issued mandatory evacuation
orders. they want residents to start evacuating about 8:00 a.m. this is a holiday weekend. we want to show you drone video of what the beach looks like now. this is drone video shot by jerry simonson. it gives you a look at what the beach looks like right now. it's virtually empty. not a lot of people out here. you saw behind me the red flag warning going up a little while ago, hazardous conditions in the water. we've heard of countless cancellations, hotel cancellations up and down the eastern coast of florida because up until just yesterday it was predicted that florida was going to take a direct hit. it looks like that is going to go a little bit north. the brevard county sheriff's office stressing to residents here that you need to prepare for the worst. just a short time ago we were driving around this community. we saw businesses taking those warnings, fplywood going up, residences yesterday, some of them around the area had already been boarded up. not quite the sense of panic that there was a few days ago, but people still very much still
guarded. >> nick valencia there on cocoa beach, an empty cocoa beach. thanks so much. florida's billion dollar tourism industry is bracing for any damage that hurricane dorian might bring to the sunshine state. >> might have already brought it if people are changing their plans. sarah hallenbeck from cnn affiliate wfts has more. >> the mcgaul family has a little extra room to enjoy the sun and surf this weekend. >> there's definitely a little more elbow room this time around. >> they visit the trade winds island grand resort every year. even hurricane dorian not reason enough to break tradition. >> instead of going away from the bad weather, we're going towards the bad weather. >> reporter: not many families are following their lead. two weeks ago the trade winds was booked solid for the holiday weekend. now they're down to 30% occupancy, and that's including several new bookings from duke energy linemen. >> the timing is pretty bad on this one.
this is our last big holiday weekend of the year. >> reporter: beach businesses count on a busy labor day weekend to carry them through september. the slowest month of the year. >> mother nature doesn't plan things accordingly does she. you know, it is a little economically stressful for all of our businesses. >> reporter: tourism leaders also worry about the bigger picture. if hurricane dorian causes se are veer damage, it could throw a wrench in the entire tourism industry. >> our insurance premiums go up. the cost of construction goes up. supplies go up. so nobody really wants to see a storm hit florida in any capacity. >> and thanks to our affiliate wfts for the report. we do want to check in with brian todd. he's live along the florida turnpike in west palm beach. >> we know that the fuel has been a concern, but also people getting out of town. now that the track is changing, are we seeing that rush out of
the area? >> reporter: victor, christi, we're not really seeing that at the moment because the evacuation dynamic is in flux. as you mentioned, we're here by the northbound lanes of the florida turnpike. this is the main evacuation route out of south florida, and to points north for people trying to get away from these storms. what we're told by palm beach county officials is that because the storm track has changed, they are going to reassess. they're holding a meeting shortly. they were going to issue mandatory evacuations for some areas of palm beach county tomorrow, but now they're kind of reassessing it. do they really need to do that. do they want to get people out in the northbound lanes all at once? do they want to get hundreds of thousands of people northbound all at once, even when it seemed like this storm was going to maybe take a direct hit right here. they didn't necessarily want to get everybody out northbound at once because they know, and they know even more now that this storm is going to probably track north. they didn't want to get all these people on the highway, maybe millions of them at a time, moving north to possibly get stuck in the storm if they maybe got on the road a little
too late. i think i heard you mention another issue was fuel, this is the west palm beach service plaza. this is not one of the areas that's run out of fuel. pretty well-organized operation over here. they want to get the word out they've got thousands of glol gallons of fuel left. they're not the case for places in town that we were at earlier. there have been fuel shortages, but there is still fuel available in some of these evacuation routes, guys. >> brian todd for us there, thank you very much. so let's talk about georgia because the governor has declared a state of emergency for 12 counties, actually did that on thursday, but it's not residents of the coastal counties who just need to prepare. on the phone with us now, lisa rodriguez presley, the external affairs supervisor. thank you so much for being with us. first and foremost, i want to get your reaction to the news this morning that the track seems to be shifting, and georgia's coast is more vulnerable now to this
hurricane. what's your reaction to that? >> so we saw the projected -- excuse me, the projected trajectory and overall strength had changed overnight, and although we don't know what the track is going to be, we're preparing for all contingencies. >> it's interesting because the -- an engineering professor at georgia tech said forecasting mode are most reliable three days out. that's where we are right now. i don't know if it makes anybody feel better. what about you? >> well, you know, the thing that people just need to make sure that they're prepared the best way that they can be. we don't have any idea of where exactly this storm is going to be in three days. i mean, we have models seen so much variance in those projections over the past couple of days, things could still change, but we encourage people to make sure they are prepared now. go ahead and start taking those steps to make sure that you're ready regardless of what's happening. if we have some sort of, you know, intense coastal impacts, if it bypasses to go now.
>> lisa, i know that people on georgia's coast are still recovering from hurricane michael last year. there were crops, specifically pecan and cotton crops that suffered $2.5 billion in damages, farmers are anxious. there was one man in the area telling the atlanta journal constitution, he said, quote, i don't know if we can stand another one referring to this hurricane. do you have that same fear? >> at this point, again, it's too early to tell exactly what those impacts are going to be, and i'm not going to speculate in regard to that, but the main thing that we want to stress to people is that, you know, we are here. we are getting georgia ready. we are prepared for whatever contingencies there are. we're working with our state and with our federal partners. we're in constant communication with all of them. we just want to make sure that people -- the priority is always going to be the lives of georgians, and that's our biggest concern right now. >> sure. okay. lisa rodriguez presley, we
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. former vice president joe biden is standing by a moving war story he told on the campaign trail this week, despite "washington post" report that says it didn't happen the way he explained it. in the space of three minutes, biden got the time period, the location, the heroic act, the type of medal, the military branch and the rank of the recipient wrong as well as his own role in the ceremony. let's discuss with cnn reporter daniel dale. we've described what he got wrong here. the question is there is this primary issue of getting it wrong. we'll talk about it in comparison or by comparison to president trump in a moment, but just getting it wrong, and then saying i don't see the problem here, that may be a problem for him or no? >> yeah it may or may not be. one of the things we've learned from trump is that there can be a political advantage to never
apologizing. to just plowing ahead, saying i was right and showing voters that you're defiant in the face of kris schicriticism from a ma media that a lot of voters on both sides don't really like. on the other hand i know from my twitter mentions, there are people who are bothered by this digging in who said look, we understand that you're going to make mistakes. at least own up to them. that's something for a lot of democratic voters they don't like in trump and they want to see from their democratic candidates. >> there is this recent history that's continuing now of the former vice president either refusing to apologize or acknowledge or delaying acknowledging his role when democrats, we're talking about democrats specifyingly waicallyt acknowledgment. i wrote down a list, it took him decades to reach out to anita hill, and she was not satisfied with that call. he denies that his 1994 crime bill had any impact on mass incarceration, although president clinton who signed it admitted they were wrong. it took him weeks to apologize
for comments about segregati segregationist senators. his interactions with women that made some uncomfortable, he said he's not apologizing for anything he's ever done. does this trend appear to hinder him politically? >> again, i think it's hard to say. i know there are people who love him for it. they say he is who he is. he's authentic. you know, he says what he means. he's heartfelt, and then there are other people who say, look, you know, other people have evolved. barack obama evolved, you know, why can't you admit quicker? why does it take so much prodding for you to acknowledge errors? i think you have people on both sides of this. >> so "the washington post" has counted more than 12,000 times that president trump has made false or misleading claims, and he's not apologized for any of those. as a fact checker, how do you approach the question of comparison? scale and scope, when you're looking at this specific or even trend with former vice president biden and what we're seeing from president trump? >> it's a great question.
i think you have to do two things. one, i think you have to fact check biden and the other democrats. you can't ignore when they get things wrong. this is important, and i know it's important to many democratic voters. at the same time, i think we have to be very clear about the comparative scale here. specifically, there is no comparison between biden or any other candidate in that democratic field and president trump. trump is on a whole other plain. so when we do point out biden's false claims, and i think we have to, i think we should also note trump is very different. >> thanks so much. thank you. senator bernie sanders says he's coming one a plan that would erase billions of dollars in medical debt. he's making a direct play maybe for elizabeth warren's supporters some might say. we're going to discuss with our political reporters. rate-to-sev, or atopic dermatitis, you feel like you're itching all the time.
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hurricane force winds, major flooding, severe storm surges and that as fema does not have a permanent director confirmed by the senate to coordinate relief efforts. president trump says he's okay with that. should everyone else be okay with it too? i'm joined by cnn political commentator and republican strategist. karen, let me start with you. we've got the acting administrator peter gaber at fema under the acting secretary mack lee nan. is there an impact of these temporary hits? >> absolutely. there are a couple of different things. on the basic level, just the experience and institutional knowledge you tend to have when you have acting people, then you tend to have someone maybe who hasn't been through these kind of disasters or experiences, maybe hasn't had to coordinate and work with the local resources and is sort of learning on the job. but that being said, it does seem like from what i heard
yesterday that they are coordinating fairly well. what i will say, though, is problematic is these tend to be people who are easily hired and fired with no real accountability. so hopefully this person, it sounds like they do, understands that there will be a lot of accountability, you know, if -- we all certainly hope that the storm does not hit and that there is not great damage, but you know, we don't want to see another brownie situation, heck of a job brownie that we saw in new orleans. >> brian, what do you think? >> i don't know that there's anything a -- if we have something of that size, they don't get to determine what infrastructure has been put in for decades before. what matters here is having that institutional knowledge and is the preparation being done, and by all accounts it is, that this is under control as much as it can be. look, no fema director is going
to stop a hurricane from hitting, and none is going to stop the destruction that's going to come if it hits at the force that it looks like right now. the preparations are being done. we have the institutional knowledge in place. whether or not they have an acting title or not is really irrelevant. we have a large bureaucracy of people who have been there for many years, and you also have the state officials being deployed in georgia and in florida, and they're going to be working hand in hand. whether or not they have a title doesn't matter. >> let's talk now -- go ahead, karen, you want to wrap this up? >> i was going to say, it's not just the preplanning. part of the problem in katrina, and part of the problem when you have someone who doesn't have experience is also the response, right? how quickly you get resources in place. how quickly the person understands and knows what kind of resources need to get where. so sure, we can't control the storm, but we can certainly control what we do before and how we respond after. >> so the president has canceled this trip to poland he said to stay and monitor and prepare for the storm. we've got reports from our pool
that he is at trump national playing golf right now. your thoughts, karen? >> not a good look, although, thankfully it appears that the storm is still offshore, and look, i think the week after we heard about the president complaining about going to the g-7 it was pretty clear the real reason why this president decided he didn't want to go to poland. i had heard from reporters who were supposed to go with him on that trip that it was over the course of the week getting shorter and shorter and shorter. i think, you know, this kind of gave him a bit of an excuse to not have to go, and not surprised that he's out golfing today. >> brian. >> that may be true as far as him not wanting to go to poland. there is a big difference between being on the other side of the potomac and the other side of the atlantic, and so i don't think there's any preparation that's not being done because he's out golfing today. and look, it's in the 70s and sunny outside, we're two to
three days away from this possibly making landfall. forgive me if i'm not outraged. before he may have a really busy workweek he goes and gets a little bit of exercise out in the sunshine. good for him. i think it's good for all of us. >> yeah. >> let's see where the governors of florida and georgia are right now. i'm sure they're not out playing golf right now. we saw desantis at a news conference this morning. bernie sanders released an outline of a plan to cancel $81 billion of medical debt. according to the proposal the federal government will negotiate and pay off past due medical bills in collection that have been reported to credit agencies. no explanation yet of how they're going to pay for this. the campaign says that could come within the next month. karen, is this something the federal government should do, pay the individual bills to health care companies and to hospitals and collection agencies of americans? >> this is going to be one where the devil's in the details, where the details are really going to matter. obviously we know medical debt in this country is a huge problem, and it stifles families
across this country. so it's certainly a problem that the -- if the federal government, if there's a way to help deal with it, that's probably something worth looking at. >> but just pay them off? pay the hospitals? >> paying it off i think is probably a little bit too far, but just politically speaking can i just say, let's remember the race is tightening. you know, senator sanders and senator warren have a lot of similarities. this has a feel to me of you know, something that you kind of throw it out there for people to talk about and hope that it helps hold onto your supporters. >> brian, i see you nodding there. >> she's absolutely right. it's not a serious policy solution, and i appreciate her even saying paying off all debt goes too far. it would create a tremendous moral hazard. people would pay off other debts and keep the medical debt knowing they'd get a bailout. that's not to diminish the pain and the suffering of those who get sick and go bankrupt. that's a serious problem in this country, and i hope that republicans have a serious solution for it moving forward,
too. more people -- it is a serious problem, but paying off debt, it that's already been accrued is very dangerous and creates bigger problems. >> the answer, the suggestion that a policy was coming was kind of dropped into an answer of a town hall on friday, and today this kind of outline comes with no explanation of who's de -- whose debt fits into that and how they're going to pay for it. hopefully we get some clarity on that coming up. >> and it won't be $81 billion. >> well, it depends on who fits into that category. all right, brian, karen, thank you both. >> thank you. >> thanks. quick break, we'll be back. wow! that's ensure max protein, with high protein and 1 gram sugar. it's a sit-up, banana! bend at the waist! i'm tryin'! keep it up. you'll get there.
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