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. and it makes the moment... primo. every day at marco's, get two medium, one-topping pizzas for just $6.99 each. hello to the italian way. hello primo. this is cnn breaking news. >> you're live in the cnn newsroom, i'm ana cabrera in new york. breaking news, an active shooter, in east texas, one person, possibly more than one are shooting at people from a moving vehicle, and we are being told there are casualties, many people shot. a lot of information coming in to cnn. polo sa po polo sandoval is with us now. >> this is happening in texas, the odessa area, the police department taking to their facebook page to send out a wide warning to everybody in and
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around the that interstate region to basically seek shelter according to this post that was published about maybe 38 minutes ago, the odessa police department confirms that at least one suspect, possibly two were driving around the renal there randomly shooting at individuals. they are reporting multiple victims. our colleague hearing ten confirmed injuries that number could potentially make it to at least 20, based on what we're hearing from authorities there on the ground. and among the injured, one dead. we also understand a state trooper is among the injured, however we're not sure if that is possibly the fatality, and according to authorities, investigators say that a suspect basically was driving a united states postal service vehicle, possibly taken without authorization, and then the other vehicle that authorities are looking for right now is a gold and white small toyota truck as well as that usps van, and authorities are asking people simply stay in doors,
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still don't know about a possible motive. this is extremely preliminary, that includes the numbers and the scenario we're hearing, as it gets those accounts from the ground, and see those photos also being published on social media as well. showing a very active scene right now, they're in the midland, odessa area with police on the side of the road, trying to track down the suspect and/or suspects, but again, these are fresh images that have been published on social media right now, and we expect, obviously, to get more details. that includes when the city of odessa will be holding a press conference to bring us up to speed on what happened today four weeks after the el paso walmart shooting. >> and we have ongoing images that are coming in to cnn through social media that we're vetting and verifying before bringing them to you. we can say this is happening right now there in west texas, again, the odessa/midland area where police are on the hunt for an active shooter who they say is driving around shooting at
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people. officials say they believe at this point that they're shooting at random people and not yet known if there are more than one shooter. polo, please stay with me. we are also getting the first pictures, again, from the ground of the active shooting situation. here's another one for you, where you can see some of the damage that was done to a vehicle. denise perez tells cnn her boss a truck driver with odessa furniture exchange had his truck shot at while doing a delivery. she says everyone with her is okay, with him, he was doing a delivery with a delivery truck when someone in a truck drove past him and shot his truck and another person's car. that's a quote based on her post. let's bring in james gagliano, a cnn analyst, and retired fbi supervisory agent. and julie ann cayenne, former assistance director for the homeland security. midland and odessa, not large
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cities. does that mean the fbi could be called in faster to assist or does this have to meet a certain criteria before the feds come in. >> no i think, ana, back in the 90s and julia can speak to this, there was a presidential decision directive that gave the fbi oversight anytime there's presumed to be terrorism, and look, we have to operate from that until it is disproven. something like this, we have one, possibly two shooters, this is the worst possible situation for law enforcement where you have a mobile crisis site, meaning you have somebody in a vehicle that is moving throughout counties, possibly crossing state lines, those type of things. it requires a lot of coordination between law enforcement. the fbi certainly would be called in. obviously the understanding here is the first responder or the brave local cops in odessa, they are going to be there the quickest, they can neatly get there and potentially interdict
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people that in these situations, generally speaking, they are not looking to negotiate, they're not looking to have political prisoners released, they're looking to ratchet up body counts and in this instance, the police have to get to them quickly. they have done a great job doing that, and the other incidents we have talked about in the last couple of weeks, hopefully they can bring this to bed pretty soon. last thing, we got to remind people, run, hide, fight, tell. in that order. that's what you've got to do in this situation, and we're doing our job right now to put the word out on social media, put the word out on cnn. make sure people understand if you're anywhere in the vicinity of this place, avoid it, and obviously you cannot walk around in an oblivious condition, you have to be in a heightened state of alert. we know the president has been briefed, juliette, safe to say the fbi director, christopher wray, other members of homeland security have been
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as well. >> that's right. looking at three things, method, possibly two shooters from cars, you know, that could be anything. it also as we often know may be one shooter. sometimes people, you know, separate eyewitnesss think it's two separate people. then you have the means, of course we get back to the gun issue. i'm curious what kind of gun it is, and how the shooting is occurring by drivers, passengers, we don't know this yet, and the reason why you bring up the fbi and it is the motivation, we can't be in 2019 without first concluding or at least first suspecting that this may have a racial animus of some sort of some sort of animus. look, this can range from anything like terrorism to a hate crime, which we're seeing a lot more of, white supremacy and those issues.
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it could also be two guys on drugs, so we have to remember that this happens, you know, unfortunately as well. and so we'll just wait, but those are the three buckets that we'll probably hear a lot about in the next half hour. >> james, if there are, in fact, multiple shooters, how would law enforcement on the ground be handling that? >> first of all, i mean, juliette nailed it here. the issue for law enforcement with this essentially moving crisis site is to try to do the calculus in realtime in a vacuum to figure out what the motivations and causes are. as you pointed out, it could be a whole host of things. that obviously is going to have a huge impact on the response. police have to assume that this active shooter or active shooters are looking just to harm as many people as possible, until proven differently. and in this instance, again, we don't know if this is a domestic dispute, if it's workplace violence, if it's a bias crime, if it's an active of terrorism,
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domestic terrorism, we don't know those things, and that's why it is so difficult for law enforcement in these situations. they've got to get on these guys as quickly as possible, stop them from hurting other people, and then sort out whether or not this is a single incident, meaning these are one or two people and that's it or whether or not they are part of a broader conspiracy, ana. >> and juliette, it's a grim question, but has law enforcement as a whole learned anything from the recent mass shootings, like in el paso and dayton, which again, were just four weeks ago? >> absolutely. so the first thing is i want to applaud, and then there's lots of questions, too, as james is saying, it's clearly about communication to the public. the goal at this stage, and this is going to sound really morose is you want fewer people dead, and the only way you can do this at this stage given what we're seeing in america is get them out of public, notify them, so the tweets we're seeing, the communications, getting on cnn, and just saying, you know,
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essentially shelter in place, do whatever you need to do. i think the second thing, though, that is unique here is we tend to leave most of these incidents, whether it's a florida school shooting or el paso and a walmart or even a street in ohio, you do have a stationary site. the moving shooter in realtime, as compared to say the washington sniper, what, over 15 years ago, is unique because you have a chase, if they know where they are, combined with the capacity of the guy to get away, plus he's armed, and we just don't know now whether there's passengers or anything else, so that is just so, you know, this is so fluid, and dangerous because, you know, the guy or guys can get off the highway, you know, exit 4, whatever it is, and start shooting on a street that doesn't seem like they might be on five minutes ago. the public information, everyone
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get off the streets, you want to keep the body count lower at this stage. that is success in this sort of horrible, you know, situation we find ourselves in in the united states, and then try to catch these guys. >> okay. juliette and james, please stand by, a quick break, we're continuing to watch this breaking news out of west texas. don't go anywhere. you're live in the cnn newsroom. ♪ ♪ love them, hate their laundry, protection. detergent alone doesn't kill bacteria but adding lysol laundry sanitizer kills 99.9% with 0% bleach. lysol. what it takes to protect. ® so that early retirement we planned. it's going ok? great. now i'm spending more time with the kids. i'm introducing them to crab.
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welcome back, we're following breaking news. police say there is an active shooter situation in west texas near midland and odessa, they believe there are potentially two shootings in two separate vehicles. one suspect is believed to be in a gold toyota. the other is believed to have hi jacked a mail truck. there are reports of an active shooter at a home depot in odessa, texas, we are told there are casualties, many people shot, at least one person dead according to odessa officials. joining us know, shimon prokupecz. >> based on everything we are hearing and people we're talking to, and things we're just sort of hearing basically, it does sound like things are still a little chaotic. police are not running around
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like they were before in the same manner. we had what appears to be a state trooper was shot, chasing looking for this suspect, they may have encountered one of the suspects. and that's how the trooper was shot. it's unclear what the situation is, and where that suspect is that state trooper encountered really now, i think it's a process as we have seen time and time again in these shootings. they're going through different areas, neighborhood stores, there's a movie theater. it's called synergy, there's an entertainment complex where there apparently took place near the shooting scene. police have been going through there making sure no one inside is the shooter. we're seeing what we see in the lot of these situations. what makes this different than what we are used to seeing is in fact, if there are two shooters. we have seen a lot of shootings in initial reports you get one shooter, two shooters and usually those turn out to be not the case. and in this case, it seems
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police at least at this point believe there are two shooters. makes this a very dynamic, different situation than we normally see in these kinds of shootings, and we also don't have a clear number yet on how many people have been injured. one thing is very clear is there are seven people shot, at least one state trooper has been injured, possibly shot, they believe, and now the hunt, it appears, is still on for suspects for shooters, out there. and keep in mind, this is in texas. obviously this is coming just within a month after the el paso shooting. it's going to be the same investigators, the texas rangers that have been out there investigating that case. they're going to be back here investigating and assisting in this investigation along with the fbi obviously and the atf. a lot of resources but i think right now, it's very clear that between the midland police department, the odessa police department, and the other local authorities there that it's a pretty chaotic situation that is still very much ongoing and things are still at play, and quite frankly, it doesn't appear
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that things are fully safe yet. it seems that police have some control of the situation, but things are still very fluid, and it doesn't appear that things are safe out there. >> we know home depot in odessa is a location where they believe at least one of the shooters if there are more than one has now gone, and is shooting. i want to bring in jonathan wacrow, a former secret service agent. jonathan from the latest information we have, this is still an active situation. can you take us inside how law enforcement would be navigating this situation right now. >> well, to shimon's point just a moment ago, this is a chaotic situation, and, you know, part of the reasoning around the chaos in the early moments and early reporting of the active shooter situation is we're now dealing with a new dynamic in the totality of active shooters is this mobile active shooter utilizing vehicles. this is the second time this year that we have seen a change or an increase in tactics around
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active shooters. earlier this year, we saw the utilization of a silencer. the new dynamics are a challenge of law enforcement they have to address on the fly. right now, what law enforcement is, one of the big challenges that they have is containment. they have to try to contain this mobile shooting situation and put that threat down and stomp it as fast as possible. but they also have to, you know, contain and preserve all of the various crime scenes for evidentiary value going forward. >> shimon, is there any concrete information that these shooters are connected in some way. >> there's no concrete information that they're connected. i think law enforcement is working under the theory that they are. i think in a lot of these situations early on, there are all sorts of different reports that come into 911. people call 911, they're hearing gunshots, reporting i hear gunshots here, i think i'm hearing gunshots here. there have been some false reports and that is normal in
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these kinds of situations. the fact that you have the police and also the local authorities there saying they do believe there's more than one shooter here, possibly two or even more in some cases is very troubling and concerning but, you know, people as they're running from scenes or as they're hearing things are dialing 911, reporting different things and sometimes it's just, you know, people's instincts and they are reporting what they're hearing, and it could be erroneous information. it does seem in this case, that police are treating it more seriously, they believe there's more than one shooter. the description of the white mail truck, that is really interesting that someone may have hi jacked this mail truck and was using it on the shooting spree. there's another car that they were looking for, so that is -- it's a very interesting situation. we don't know how this person came into contact with this postal truck, how they got their hands on it. all of that is very much unknown. there's so much we don't know.
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it's definitely a very type of situation, i think, than what we normally see because of the multiple shooters, the vehicles, the number of cars that police are looking for in this situation. >> and again, we have evidence the shots that were fired, hitting vehicles that are out and about. i want to reiterate what they're looking for, a golden white toyota truck and a usps post van where they believe there are active shooters driving and shooting at people. they have also identified one location. it's a home depot in odessa where they believe an active shooter situation may be underway. we are continuing to gather information. we are expecting a news conference with officials there locally here in the next 10 to 15 minutes. we'll be monitoring that, and bringing new information we learned from that. in the meantime, let me take a quick break as we continue to watch in breaking news out of texas. don't go anywhere. you're live in the "cnn newsroom." en wake up with chest congestion? or suffer excess mucus? try mucinex 12 hour. the bio layer tablet immediately releases
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multiple shooting locations but we are hoping to get some answers when this presser begins. again, expect it in the next few minutes. right now, we hope to hear these shooters have been arrested but we don't know just yet what the status is. we're also learning that atf is responding to these shootings, according to a tweet by atf dallas. we're getting reaction now coming from former texas congressman and 2020 candidate beto o'rourke whose community of el paso just experienced a mass shooting earlier this month. here's what he tweeted our hearts with midland odessa and everyone in west texas who has to endure this again. more information is forthcoming but here's what we know. we need to end this epidemic. another 2020 candidate and fellow texan, julian castro tweeting heartbreaking news out of odessa and midland, texas, as police search for an active shooter at large. stay indoors and monitor news alerts and safety protocol. a lot of information coming into cnn. i want to go back to cnn's
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shimon prokupecz with me. what have you learned since we last spoke? >> i think it's best to describe it's still very fluid and it's what you would imagine in this kind of situation, things very much still ongoing and i think authorities are still trying to get a handle on exactly what they're dealing with, who they're dealing with, why this happened and like you said, they are looking for this other vehicle, this toyota, this vehicle that we have been describing as a second vehicle. they have identified one of the vehicles they were looking for, which was a white postal van they believe was stolen and was used by the shooter and we're seeing all sorts of photos posted on twitter of cars just with bullet holes all over them, all along this stretch of road, cars turned sideways almost, as you probably, drivers trying to escape the gunfire, and just couldn't escape it. there are bullet holes through many of these vehicles, and it appears the shooters in this
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case were just firing at ram nd as cars were driving along the road, just firing at them. and you can tell the way some of the vehicles were positioned, people were trying to escape the gunfire. people were running from an entertainment center, where folks may have been injured trying to flee the gunfire. we see with these situations, very chaotic in the beginning and on the police department side, very chaotic, midland, and odessa both dealing with active shooters through their cities, through their towns, trying to find these people, chasing them in some cases, thinking they have leads, while they're getting more reports of gunfire, and we saw there's police with hey heavily armed weapons, rifles, as they search, helmets, vests, heavy duty vests to try and protect themselves. when you see these situations,
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even for the police, it's very chaotic and you can hear that going on as this was unfolding. the police trying to communicate with each other. you have two different police departments here trying to community about what's going on, relaying information in different towns. that always creates chaos because they're not all on the same frequency, so you have to find a way to communicate with them. that creates chaos. a lot of information right now out there. what we don't yet know for certain is how many people have been injured. we know several people have been shot. we know a state trooper we believe has been injured, who may have intercepted the shooter, at least one of the shooters in this case. we don't have information on the second shooter yet, and really, again, just the very chaotic and fluid situation. it does appear by the sound of things that things have calmed down a little bit there for the police department, but still very much an ongoing process as they continue to search, going through various locations to try and find out exactly who they're
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looking for and to make sure there are no other people that have been injured. >> according to local law enforcement, both what we're hearing from odessa as well as midland officials, they say at least ten people have been shot, possibly more injured and again, at least one person confirmed dead. that's the latest as far as the numbers go. again, it's still a fluid situation, and again, the two vehicles that now have been identified as a white or gold toyota as well as a usps postal van that they believe are involved in these active shooter situations and we are seeing more and more from social media, people sending in pictures showing bullet holes in vehicles and describing it as somebody driving around actively shooting at moving vehicles. i want to bring in juliette kayyem, a cnn national security analyst, and a former assistant secretary for the department of homeland security. juliette, we know midland and odessa are small communities, they aren't large cities. t does that mean the fbi would be called in faster to assist or
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does this have to meet a certain criteria before the feds come in. how do you think the federal officials who are involved are handling this. >> part of it is based off need at this stage. can the locals assist in whatever is going on right now, as shimon just said, we're just not sure what stage we're at, did they catch the guy or did one or both of them stop shooting. the federal presence will be immediate because it will always be pulled back. in other words, we're going to make an saumassumption that an active shooter case like this, could be terrorism, a hate crime, and that is not some workplace violence issue. and those assumptions are probably right. i think a rational person can make that assumption today. now the motive issue will get to whether there's a federal nexus, if there's terrorism, white supremacy, islamic terrorism, or if it's a hate crime, we don't know yet, so that's the range of
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possibilities, the fact that i'm saying them does not mean any of them are true. it's just this is how rational investigators would approach a situation like this, but right now, this is a local, is it going to be run by the locals until they know what they have and they stop, essentially what we think is still an active shooting case, we'll learn a little bit more and as long as the local capacity is not stretched to the limit. what we don't know is we have been in situations in which cars are used as weapons of mass destruction. we saw that a lot with isis attacks. we have also been in situations where you have mass shootings at a physical site. we have a combination of that now. you have the moving vehicl with the guns and what we think is two, and that's just, that is so much harder to stop because one, they are mobile, the villains, the culprits are mobile, but two, you can't communicate to the public that easily, i'm in a
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car right now, trying to get to the studio, how would you communicate to me right now that i might be under threat. it's much harder than if i were in a building. >> juliette, stand by, and shimon, i know you're still working on getting details. we have to squeeze in a quick break as we await the press conference and hope to get more information from officials in west texas. don't go anywhere, you're live in the cnn newsroom. come on yeah, yeah! when accidents happen, resolve them. resolve urine destroyer removes urine stains and neutralizes odors on contact. resolve. stains are temporary. love is forever.
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welcome back, we are awaiting a press conference right now concerning an active shooter situation in midland and odessa, texas. at least one person is dead and more than ten are injured. let me get right to cnn's crime and justice correspondent shimon prokupecz with some new information. >> significant information coming out of the midland police department. they say that the active shooter was shot and killed in odessa, texas -- this is according to the midland applipolice departm. the suspect they were looking for that engaged with the trooper, they believe that's how the shooper is shot. he is dead -- trooper was shot. the suspect is dead. it's confirmed the active shooter is shot and killed at the synergy in odessa. this appears to be an entertainment complex. i'm not familiar with the area but from some of the research i have done, there's a movie theater there, some stores there. this was at the complex, police
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engaged the shooter. he was killed. it's not clear if he shot himself or if they actually shot him but we do know there was an exchange of gunshots between the police and sheetooter, very significantly, they say there is no active shooter at this time and that agencies are investigating reports of possible suspects. so what does this all mean? obviously, well, it sounds like police are not sure that they're looking for anyone else. now, initial reports as we were saying always say there's more than one shooter. people calling 911 concerned that they're hearing gunshots, seeing cars, seeing people run, sometimes are mistaken, and that's when we get reports of more than one shooter. police right now saying very significant piece of information, yes, the shooter is dead, but also there is no active shooter or active shooting situation that they're dealing with, so right now, it seems at least that the police are saying that they have this under control. they're going to keep searching, they're going to try to find
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these other cars, description of other people, that witnesses may have provided certainly that's going to keep going. significant, we have a shooter dead, and right now, no active shooter. >> right, let me just read the specific tweet here from the midland police department, it has been confirmed that the active shooter was shot and killed at the synergy in odessa. there is no active shooter at this time write midland police. all agencies are investigating reports of possible suspects, so as we continue to follow this situation, let me bring in james gagliano, retired special supervisory agent. james, your thoughts on this new information? >> hugely consequential news and the police department was right to get out in front of this. the most important piece of information for the public is there an ongoing threat and obviously in this situation, it appears that the shooter has been neutralized or interdicted by the police. i think i have heard a couple
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other analysts say the same thing, and i echo this. while we are through this first phase and we can take a deep breath, the work is not done yet. spoke about preservation of crime scenes and juliette talked about initial reports are often inaccurate, and we have to follow every lead, we have to follow the evidence where it goes, and we have to make certain there were no coconspirators heres and that's difficult when the primary suspect, the shooter has been interdicted. you cannot question that person. i guarantee, the fbi, state police, department of public safety in texas, the local police officers they are going through the subject's vehicle right now. they are running background checks or indices checks as we call it in the industry, going back to see if there's a criminal record, a social media imprint, while we are pressing ourselves out of the woods, the job is not done yet. i'm going to be interested to hear what the public officials in texas say about this to find out whether or not they are a
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hundred percent certain that this was a lone wolf or single shooter or whether this person was inspired, directed or had coconspirators, ana. and i have new information that also is just being confirmed by our team here. one person dead, 21 injured. now is what the word is from the mayor of midland, texas, confirming, again, 21 people injured with one person dead, and what we know is at least one person, the active shooter has also been killed. don't know if he shot and killed himself or if it was in the exchange of gunfire with police but midland police saying that an active shooter has been killed and they do not believe there's an active shooter at this time. we also have some new information coming in, again, from the local medical center there, and it looks like at least one of the victims who was shot is a 17-month-old child. we're working to get more information about those injured. the mayor of midland, texas, in fact, is joining us right now, jerry morales, thank you so much
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for being here with us. what is the latest information you can tell us? >> yes, good afternoon, so yes, we have confirmed that the active shooter, we have one confirmed active shooter that has been killed. and the midland police department did kill that shooter. we have at least 20 citizens who have been injured, not necessarily from the shooter but from the shooter being active, and then we have one police, midland police officer who was shot and is in surgery. it's nonlife threatening and one department of public safety injury from the shooter, nonlife threatening. so we are hoping that this was just one shooter and that we have contained him. >> and so you said you're hoping that it's just one shooter. at this time, it's unclear to you, at least, that if there are multiple shooters? >> that is correct. >> okay.
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and as far as the shooter that has been killed, do you know anything about this person? >> we do not know -- i do not know anything about the person or what the motive was, so this has all been happening very fast. it was all very -- it was all in movement and between midland and odessa, there's about 20 miles difference. the shooter was pulled over on the interstate by a dps officer. that's when he shot the officer and then took off. he started shooting randomly, and then everything happened after that. >> and where was it that the shooter ultimately died? >> at a theater, a movie theater called synergy in between midland and odessa. >> and what was the circumstance in which the police encountered that person there? >> so again, it just pursued into a chase, and between all of the law enforcement, they trapped him in the parking lot of the synergy theater and then that's when they were able to engage the shooter.
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>> and do you know anything about the people who have been shot or injured beyond who you described for us being a police officer and another official who also sustained an injury? we know you said the police officer is in surgery. obviously hope and pray that everything ends up okay there. one person was killed. who was that? >> again, do not know anything about that fatality, and do not know anything about the injuries, and we do not know, i do not know anything about the shooter at this time. all of this has just transpired in the last few minutes, and we are just hoping that this has come to an end, and just asking everybody for their prayers. >> okay. well, mayor, thank you very much for your time. we know you're working to find out more information as well, and we appreciate you bringing us what you know at this time. let me just reiterate what we just learned from mayor morales. he says at least one person is dead, 20 plus injured, some may not be gunshot wounds, obviously
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it's been a cat otic situation -- chaotic situation, people fleeing, there may be various injuries. one police officer undergoing surgery. another police official also taken to the hospital, and at this time, it's unclear exactly whether this situation is contained but we know one person who they were calling the active shooter has been killed. midland police tweeting out that they believe there is no active shooter at this time. but we're still working to get more information to confirm that there is not an ongoing situation. please stay with us. you're watching cnn. another quick break, and we'll come back. continuing to monitor the press conference set to get underway any moment. stay with us. ...fragrance shouldn't either. air wick's new technology releases fragrance upwards and outwards, unlike glade. so now you can fill every corner with fragrance. upgrade to air wick. only marco's can deliver. america's most loved pizza. hot and fresh, and right to your door.
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the most personal technology is technology with the power to change your life. we are back with the breaking news of a shooting in odessa, texas, the suspect we are told has been killed, and there are several victims, at least one person is dead, another 21 injured. we know of at least two officials from the city of midland who were among those injured. one of them a police officer, currently in surgery. president trump has just tweeted on the situation. here's what he says, just briefed by attorney general barr about the shootings in texas.
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fbi and law enforcement is fully engaged. more to follow. so as we continue to monitor the situation in this area between odessa, and midland, texas, 20 miles or so, i want to show you an incredible moment from a local news station there, kosa. watch this. >> there's people running through the mall. we're not sure why. we need to see what this is. are we going to go back to programming. ? we're going to slip away just for a minute. we don't know what is going on. people running through the mall, and so we need to see what this is. >> okay. so obviously they were caught
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off guard, things happening live on air with them. let me bring in jonathan wackrow, a cnn analyst, and former secret agent. from the mayor of midland, it's still unclear an active shooter is dead backup but earlier we were reporting there may be more than one shooter. take us inside how law enforcement would be handling this right now. >> well, law enforcement, you know, they -- of this they have addressed one threat and put that down with the reports that the one active shooter was killed. but, you know, we have to ascertain is there an ongoing threat, a secondary threat that we don't know about. that's a pretrial and return concern right now for law enforcement. and then broadly, there is the threat of a copycat attack not just in odessa but around the nation. there is the heightened sense of whereness from law enforcement agencies around the united states, fearful of a copycat
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welcome back as we continue to follow the breaking news out of west texas, an active shooter situation. and officials confirming at least one shooter is dez. shimon prokupecz here with the latest. we heard from the mayor your interview there with him.
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a couple of good pieces of detail significant information. he said that the police it appears encountered the shooter and pulled him over. and then he shot one of the police. there was a chase ensued. somewhere along the chase as the suspect was running there were more people shot. and that's perhaps when he was firing at these vehicles and where people were shot and injured. 21 people injured. a lot of people in the panic as you would imagine running, trying to flee the scene of gunshots. they get injured. two officers injured. one is now in surgery. but the good news they are expected to survive. they are non-life threatening injuries. but a lot of panic out there for folks out today driving on the road. and then the people in and around the entertainment center there. >> this ending at an entertainment center, the mayor described a theater complex where officials engaged with this suspect and ultimately the suspect this active shooter they called him is dead. right now we don't kn
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other victims after that. the victim then went eastbound back on 42nd towards synergy a local movie theater and at that point was contacted by law enforcement by officers from the odessa police department, the midland police department, the texas department of public safety and then i'm sure others. again, this is a very fluid, changing situation. so please understand that what i'm telling su not written in stone. these facts -- these -- this knowledge can change. okay? at that point in subject was
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contacted by law enforcement. and he -- an exchange of gunfire happened. and that subject is deceased at that location. we have law enforcement injured. we have the dps trooper in midland county. we have one mm p. d. on and one o p. d. officer struck. as far as civilian casualties we have at least 21 victims. 21 shooting victims. and at least 5 deceased at this point in time. please understand that this is not just an o p. d. and midland police department and dps thing. both sheriff's office midland county sheriffs department and another sheriff's office was involved in the hunt for the guy. our local school district department. our university of texas and permian basin school -- excuse me police department was involved. this was a joint


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