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this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. we're going answer five big questions in the hour ahead. was the democratic debate a battle between the moderates sp progressives who came out on top. what is the fall out from beto o'rourke saying we're going to take your ar 15. who does first daughter trump said gave her her moral compass? plus why is liberty university
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facing backlash from the students at the evangelical star. and will antonio brown play sunday as he faces allegations of sexual assault and rape? we'll begin with the democratic debate and the question of medicare for all. biden making this challenge to warren. >> the senator on my left is not indicate how she pays for it. direct question. families will pay less. will middle class taxes go up to pay for the program? >> what families have to deal with is cost. total cost. >> so let's get right to it now. the big picture. my panel is here. in this corner. you are all in the house. it's so good to have you. we'll make you a part of the -- >> i love it. >> welcome. one and all. we saw the top ten democrats on
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the stage. moderates and progressives. did voters gt a better idea of how the people in the field differ? >> they did. there was a forceful debate from biden and klobuchar. on the moderate center positions particularly healthcare. biden and klobuchar took on sanders and warren opt issue of the cost of the program. sp more importantly, the idea that private insurance will be taken away. that's unpopular. warren said people don't like hurrica health insurance companies. you got a better side of the divide in the democratic party. it was a healthy debate. >> did you find there were -- that far apart on any one policy? >> i think on this policy. there's a myth that bernie sanders and warren are more in touch and closer to the
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democratic lek tort than moderates. klobuchar and biden. and the polling shows it's opposite. the democratic party i would say it's about 30% of the democratic party is in the sanders and warren wing. >> say it again. >> about a third or less of the party is supportive of the policy warren and sanders. two-thirds is a much more moderate. the problem is that 60% of democrats say they like their healthcare coverage. and that 65% to -- 55 to 40 oppose any plan that took the choice of keeping their healthcare plan. the debate did is it exploited that myth. that sanders and warren were the ones that capture the party hearts. because really the strength in the party is with klobuchar.
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biden and the rest of the field. >> it was interesting there was no coordinated defense when people attack their plans. they're close on the plans. i'm sure you watched. who did you think was better equipped to take on the president in a debate. >> overall? >> in general. >> i honestly was really stunned by mayor buttigieg performance yesterday. he to be the youngest candidate on the field, he seemed like one of the most mature. on stage. and took a very serious and brought it back to what i think the american people actually care about who is democracy. how it's supposed to run and what government means. he respected the intelligence of the voter. when he came home and said i respect your choice. and i think that you have the best capability of deciding what the solutions are to the problems you face. and it's not going to be me telling you this is one way or this is the way you should
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proceed in fixing your problem. i also think that senator warren came out -- people under estimate her. she is just a quiet storm. it's a steady -- >> did it show last night on the stage? you didn't hear that much. >> it shows in her personal story resonates with voters that i think folks think she would normally not play well with. saying she paid $50 per semester or a year to go to university of houston and working a part-time job. that resonates with the american people. it was far more personal. that will play well on the general election stage. >> back to the mayor. you talk about -- he also jumped in when they were fighting. when secretary castro and biden former vice president were having a moment. and said this is why people hate
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politics and debates. talking about the people at home. he had an emotional moment. telling his coming out story. >> i came back from the deployment and realize that you only get to live one life. i was not interested in not knowing what it was like to be in love any longer. i came out. i had no idea what kind of professional set back it would be. especially inconveniently it was an election year in my socially conservative community. what happened was that when i trusted voters to judge me based on the job that i did for them, they decided to trust me and reelected me with 80%. >> he went onto say this is not about any one person. or president trump. but the collective trust about the voters.
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>> i'm always compelled when i hear buttigieg speak. he talks about the issues in a different way. it's so refreshing. it's never a talking point. it's never the same way twice. it's not a teleprompter. it's unique and fresh. issues and ideas in a way we haven't heard democratics talk about. it it's a compelling human story. he's exceeded expectation. more than anybody in the field. >> a guy nobody knew. couldn't pronounce. a place where nobody knew. a gay man. >> he's not as in -- >> probably nobody more different than donald trump than pete buttigieg. >> having said that. he speaks about thijs in different ways. i wonder if this race will be about whether the people want someone who is safe bet. or want someone who is ready for
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transformation. and push change. >> a combination, i have no idea. >> that's the right question. up until now i expect this to continue for the the steady hand. we have been through this period in politics where washington experience is something that people run away from. as fast as they can. you don't have insiders running for national office. in a successful way. in the cnn des moines register poll. what at tribute was moes important. d.c. experience. that's -- how it happened. trump didn't -- we want the opposite. >> if you're putting your finger on something. it's not just electability with biden. it's something people know. the calm and i remember that time. it was different it was
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predictable. >> here's what i thought all along. not just this season. always. it's interesting to see to compare and contrast candidates in the debate. being a president is not about making decisions and answering questions in 30 seconds. right? is it fair to put people on stage and say you have 30 seconds and a minute to answer the question. when you are president you have a minute. that doesn't happen. >> i think now the american people want their leaders to not have their reputation just rely on strong rhetoric. i think the american people want their politicians and leaders reputations to rely on actual results. >> let me ask this. today joe biden said, former vice president said that maybe the people on the debate stage should stop criticizing him. it doesn't end well. that's a little trumpen.
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does he have a point? you saw what happened with secretary castro and harris. she got a bump in the polls and went down. >> i can say what doesn't really work out on stage. we notice is when you criticize former president obama. in that regard i heard a will the of candidates who may have critiqued president obama in the past. who use that as a way to get to former vice president biden. and unfortunately that didn't work out well. you heard basically a passive apologies from candidates yesterday. who said they owed a lot to former president obama. but i think it is fair for the primary process to critique and be objective to every candidate on the stage. >> i love having you all here.
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thank you all. >> dramatic exchange on the campaign trail between sanders and a veteran battling serious illness. i want to bring in anny who is covering the campaign. appreciate you joining us. this is very emotional. emotions ran high at a sanders town hall in nevada. let's take a look and talk about it. >> now they're saying that i didn't resign or do something. >> i can't. i'm going kill myself. >> stop it. you're not going to kill yourself. >> i can't deal with it. i have hunting tons disease. do you know how hard it is? you don't, do you? i can't drive. i can barely take care of myself. >> all right. let's talk at the end of the meeting? >> okay. >> please, tell us mur about that moment.
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and what happened after. >> so that was in carson city, nevada. sanders first public event since the democratic debate last night houston. as you heard the end of the exchange he promised veteran he would follow up with him. and as promised as soon as it wrapped and sanders took photographs with whoever in the audience. he followed by his wife walked over to the veteran to continue the conversation. and this really just shows what's at stake with the healthcare debate. and what senator sanders who continues to hold smaller events more intimate town halls allowing people to share intimate stories they may not get the opportunity to share. >> thank you so much. i want to bring my political analyst back in. mark, what do you think. it shows the seriousens of healthcare. >> and super-emotional human moment out there that magnifies the issue and gave sanders an
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opportunity to show humanity. which he doesn't do very often. he's a policy driven guy that he handled that the right way. i got you. let's do it quietly and alone. he didn't try and take advantage of the moment. for himself publicly on tv. and took it away quietly. which is the right way. it was a great moment. >> you hear people talk about in polling. this is what the americans want and preexisting conditions and on and on. this is real life. and death. possibly death. an issue and how people feel about health care. >> it is. and i think the important point kamala harris made this, i give her credit. all of the democrats on that stage. they may have policy differences, they are committed to making sure this -- and what had they don't say enough is the republicans are in court now,
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donald trump justice department to take away preexisting conditions. to strip obamacare of the individual mandate. i think that is a much more powerful argument. people aren't going to sit at the table and talk about my plan vs. your plan. what the democrats should focus on is what sanders did today. and talk about how this right of healthcare is under attack. obamacare if republicans are elected in 2020 will go away. >> last word. >> i would say just from my own personal experience i was able to at 24 years old work for the federal government. and i had private student loans i had to pay back. i lived on a couch for two years and saved every piece of my paycheck from the white house. and stayed on my mothers healthcare. and pay on student loans. that shouldn't be the reality for most americans. that's to go away where folks can't stay on the family members
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healthcare until age 26, i think that could be destructive and you would not have me sitting here. >> thank you all. i appreciate it. beto o'rourke demanding a mandatory government buy back. that's frustrating lawmakers to find a way for republicans and democrats to agree on gun legislation. new features. greater details. richer stories. get your dna kit today at ancestry.com. we're oscar mayer deli fresh your very first sandwich,m... your mammoth masterpiece. and...whatever this was. because we make our meat with the good of the deli and no artificial preservatives. make every sandwich count with oscar mayer deli fresh.
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frustration over gun control measures tonight after beto o'rourke was asked about mandatory gun buy backs on the assault weapons during last nights debate. >> are you proposing taking away guns and how would this work? >> i am. if it's a weapon designed to kill people. on a benneattlefield. hell yes, we'll take your ar 15. >> some law make rs say that plays into the hands of republicans. and shortly after those comments, one republican state
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texas state lawmakers threatened o'rourke on twitter. he tweeted this. my ar is ready for you. twitter deleted that. after o'rourke called his words a death threat. he's accusing o'rourke of spinning the tweet into something it wasn't. >> it's been unofficial motto of the state of texas. come and take it. october 2, 1835. the anniversary is coming up. that's what it means. come and take it. >> okay, so joins me now. good evening. rick, i'll start with you. how is that spinning -- what's the spin? >> look, i think this was honestly -- i'm more cynical than most people on this. i think beto is looking for a way to breakthrough in a race he's already pretty much lost.
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he's in the lowest possible tier of the guys. he went out and waved his arms around and did something he knew would be inflammatory. and well out there. well beyond where the majority of americans are on the this matter. he's not talking about background checks or red flag laws. he's talking about a police driven gun seizure across the country. had knows this will never happen. he knows he'll never be the president of the united states at this point. he understands the race is done for him. he's out there doing something i thought was cynical. >> listen, i understand what you're saying. not saying i disagree. this representative saying somehow he is his tweet is being spun by beto. >> sorry. i understand. look, these guys are spritzing on twitter and the guy made a statement that was as much as he wants to ret con the statement.
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it probably was a little bit over the line. i have said things on twitter that are over the line. i have a good detecter. that was on border. >> thank you for answering that. >> juliette, even democrats are calling out the remarks. it was he's concerned that this is going to be used in years to come. and sound bites where by republicans saying look democrats want to take your guns away. this is what a recent "washington post" poll found. 52% of people are in favor of mandatory buy back programs for assault weapons. 44% oppose. is some democrats some may not like what he said, is he far off base? >> no, he's not. i'm glad you raised that pool. there's a feeling he's so crazy. the idea is crazy. put the numbers the majority of americans believe in a assault rifle ban. 70% in some polls. "washington post" poll had 31%
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of republicans support a mandatory buy back. and a similar poll that showed 20% of trump supporters support it. why is that? because since most americans support an assault rifle ban, you have a problem which is 5 million ar 15s for example on the street. how are you going to get them off the street? mandatory buy back. rolling amnesty. you let people come in and pay them back. ban things like magazines and things that that's my big concern. the reason why you want these assault rifle ban. put handguns aside is because of the capacity to kill a lot of people quickly. beto is clearly at the very least in a evenly divided american debate. this is not a fringe notion of a mandatory buy back. it worked in other countries.
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new zealand and australia were different. the idea we'll be threatened by fear of when are the gun people going to say. the gun people are actually many of them are for the policies. >> in that same "washington post" poll, rick, support for universal background checks. is huge. 89%. congress, though, has been unable to pass anything. does that show how far we are from any kind of mandatory gun buy back program? >> i thu one of the things as a guy who is experienced in polling and asking polling questions. if the second question in the poll was what is a mandatory gun buy back most americans couldn't tell you what it means. most don't understand the implications. when they do the answer changes. the phrase universal background check sound great. we have checks that cover roughly 95% of gun purchases. through the nix system.
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lt marginal areas where we see gun crimes emerging are mostly not from people who legitimately obtained guns. but criminal means. we have to tighten the system. work on that and focus on that. i don't think that the flush of polling that we have seen after all the events and they're tragic. i'm not minimizing them. we see polls they soar up with the numbers and drop back. a percentage of the problems in the polling that people look at. gun violence is very rarely in the top ten. it's things that are relevant to immediate lives. these are tragedies. but there tr bigger issues and bigger fish to fry for most voters when it comes to election day. we'll see what happens. and if congress feels motivated to tighten up. this will areas that have to be
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carefully balanced on red flag laws and what we should be doing in the federal government is encouraging more prosecution of gun trafficking crimes. which is very little attention. >> cnn the "new york times" will cohost the next democratic presidential debate. live from the battleground state of ohio. october 15. right here on cnn. ivanka trump telling donors sgh she gets her moral compass from her father. cologuard: colon cancer screening for people 50
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so when ivanka trump was asked what personality trait she got from her parents. she quote told the crowd of roughly 120 high end donors that her mother gave her an example of how to be a powerful successful woman. and her father passed onto her his moral compass. joining me now to discuss. new york magazine washington correspondent. and author of the wilderness and michael d'antonio joins us. good evening. here we go. what do you make of her remark. you say she hasn't always thought that way? >> it's the opposite of what she told me.
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her mother gave her moral grounding and her father taught her about business and achievement. this flip-flop actually is consistent with her dad. so maybe she's telling the truth this time. maybe he really is her moral guide. and we're witnessing it. >> that was audible. why do you say that? why are you laughing? >> it was a good joke. i think maybe it's probably true. she's been clear historically about her relationship with her father and what she's gotten from him. appealing to donors is different. and donald trump is not someone who people readily see empathy or traits like that from. he's her job to humanize him. and that's a difficult task. implying that she gets her moral compass from him, it seems like there's a lot to him that we don't know.
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maybe that's what she was going for. suggest there's a side of him that is good and not visible to the public. and that she is somehow evidence of that. she's a result of that. it's way to convince people that there's more there that we don't see. >> early on there was an idea ivanka and jared would be an influence on the president and administration. you said trump began to tire of their lobbying. every time he turned around they were nagging him about something. education the next. it never stopped. the efforts to change his mind about the paris climate accord. the president took to mocking their arguments when they weren't around. it seems to suggest their moral compass doesn't always point to in the same direction. >> that's right. the clear trajectory of the ivanka and the white house suggests her own political views
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her world view is not aligned with her father. her chief utility is as kind of a weapon that trump can wave to prove to people that he's more respectable than he might seem. this is the thing about her. she's polite. she's well manered and properly socialized to get along with fellow rich people. and maybe more centerist leaning rich people. when you have her in the room of donors she can speak the language and can say you like what you see? i got this from my dad. behind closed doors when you are in the white house together, trump is less inclined to listen to her on the political issues where he knows she's not aligned with his base. >> don jr. was asked today on fox and friend about investigations into whether the president is using his office to help his business. listen to this. >> it's ridiculous. first of all, he's not involved
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at all. they neglect to talk about the fact we voluntarily stopped doing any international deals. just think of the opportunity cost. the amount of deals i have done over the last ten years. over eight years of what will be the presidency. that's a lot of deals. someone bought a cheese burger at the trump hotel. >> he is saying it's ri duck louse but it's not? >> where he gets his ethical grounding as well. this is a fellow who has been over seas. scouring the landscape for business during his father's presidency. the idea that this president isn't taking foreign and dmesic is absurd. he can go on the propaganda net work and issue the family line. it's not true. >> he's down playing it. it's bigger than a cheese burger. >> it's massive. this is millions of dollars that
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have been paid to trump entities and now the president is soliciting the next gathering of the g7 for dorl. >> people believe that. >> i think they may. if you have eaten at a restaurant at trump facility. i wouldn't recommend the beef. >> is it from trump steaks? >> there's also the secretary pompeo making this joke today. at an event at trumps d.c. hotel. >> i look around this is such a beautiful hotel. the guy who owns it must be successful somewhere. that was for the "washington post." >> so he's trying to please the boss. is he also rubbing the allegations of corruption in everybody's face? >> yeah, i think so. this is been central to the trump family. modify everything.
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sell everything. press your advantage where ever you can. there's been a lot of reporting on the fact from the second he was elected the people in the trump family and the organization started looking for ways to take advantage. right? and so people like mike pompeo and the president orbit they go out of their way to tout the bosses success. and also know that the corruption allegations don't bother him that much because this is been so central to the way the trump operated for so long. it seems like he barely sees it as a something wrong. this is just what you. this is how you make money. this is how you build an empire. >> even the republican house minority leader was defending using a trump property. make a joke and rub it in peoples faces? >> it's not just he doesn't see anything wrong.
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it's a central part of the pitch. it has been since he started running for office. he knows the system so well because he's part of it and how to exploit it. he will exploit it for the benefit of his supporters. that is part of the pitch. he just is smarter than everybody else. >> that has to be the last word. thank you. wooe'll be right back. a line for 4 lines. all s and for a limited time, get free smartphones too! get 4 new lines of unlimited and 4 free phones for just 30 bucks a line! ♪ i like to make my life easy. ( ♪ ) romo mode. (beep) (bang) good luck with that one. yes! that's why i wear skechers slip-ons. they're effortless. just slip them right on and off. skechers slip-ons, with air-cooled memory foam.
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jerry jr. the president of liberty university under fire tonight by some students at the evangelical school in virginia. questioning his leadership and want answers about e-mails he wrote allegedly belittling students and staff at liberty. here's cnn martin savage. >> reporter: losing faith. uncommon sight. students protesting one of the largest christian schools in the world. protesting the president. founded in 1971 by his father. liberty university in virginia. today the student body of 110,000 students. the he's facing a backlash over the culture and business dealings at the school. just this week, the revelations from e-mails over the past decade in which he belittles
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students and staff. >> we want to know the truth. we want transparency through the process and accountability. we want to know what the president is doing. >> counter protestors were on hand supporting fall well. >> it's just been taken out of context to smear his name. personally. some might be true. a lot is probably is exaggerated. >> reporting on dozens of e-mails contains offensive language. in one from 2010, he reportedly called a then student emotionally imbalanced and physically retarded. in a 2015 e-mail, reported, lashing out about students parking and private lots instead of paying parking fees. quote these students need to learn to play by the rules or they can go to another college. i'm tired of this crap. in other e-mails reported he calls a university official, a bag of hot air.
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who couldn't spell the word profit. in another, he calls another official a half wit. and easy to manipulate. speaking to cnn he confirmed the e-mails. but said they lack context. saying quote, i would have to see the full thread to see what i was talking about. he told cnn that the e-mails had been stolen. and he's asked the fbi to investigate a criminal conspiracy. saying that former employees and board members leaked documents and e-mails in attempt to oust him. his demands for a federal probe follow a story based on e-mail and unnamed sources accusing him of providing over a culture of self-dealing. real estate transactions to benefit family and associates. >> when asked about the week, he replied i really don't care what they say. in the end, they are going to look like fools. i'm actually very much enjoying
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the new england patriots grappling with an important question tonight. should serious accusations against a player keep him off the field?
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star receiver antonio brown has been kuzzaccused of rape and se assault by his trainer and former bible study partner brittany taylor. brown and his representatives deny the allegations, but though he's eligible to make his season debut with the patriots sunday while the league investigates, the team has not said whether he will take the field. let's discuss now. donte stallworth is here who plays ten seasons in the nfl, as well as mina kiemz of espn. donte, i'm going to start with you. since there isn't a criminal investigation, brown can technically still play while the league investigates. do you agree with how the team is handling this? >> i know that i played for that organization for two years, and i understand how they operate. they try to do their best to put aside all distractions, any possible distractions. they try to focus on the game and focus on football, and anything else is pushed outside and left to the media to talk
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about and discuss but the players in the locker room and the head coach specifically bans the players from speaking about things that are not detailed towards the game and towards playing in the game. that's the typical way they handle it. i don't know if it's morally right or not, but that's the way that belichick has handled things for decades in that organization, and it's worked for him on the field. >> considering the allegations here or the accusations, mina, what does the nfl stand to lose if antonio brown plays this weekend? >> well, i think it's tricky from the nfl's perspective. there is something called the commissioner's exempt list. it's a status they can impose on players, putting them on paid leave while they're deciding whether or not to suspend him. i think the reason why antonio brown is not on the list is the league is afraid of setting a precedent, making that decision based on civil allegations before they've had a chance to talk to the accuser. that's supposed to take place next week. i get that from a labor perspective, but when he's out
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there in uniform, it does send a message about the league's priorities. they need to figure out very quickly if there's going to be more evidence surfacing here because if there does, it's going to be a bad look for the nfl. >> listen, the nfl has strugglestruggled in public to adequately address issues of domestic violence and violence against women. brown is the league's highest profile receiver on its marquee team. how crucial is it that the league get this right? >> it's absolutely crucial. as i said, i understand from a labor perspective why they don't want to set a precedent here in acting too quickly, but they need to gather information as quickly as possible and also convey, i think, to people that they're taking this very seriously. that's the nfl. i don't understand why the patriots would be rushing him out. football doesn't matter here, but it bears mentioning. they're playing the worst team in the nfl. they're one of the best teams. they absolutely do not need antonio brown. donte mentioned they don't like distractions. him being on the field is
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detroit's economic struggles are well known and it remains the poorest big city in america. the u.s. census bureau says more than one-third of detroit's residents and nearly half of the city's children live in poverty. this week's cnn hero is working to change that. she's a nurse who found her mission while making a house call more than 20 years ago. meet nuja bazi. >> working as a nurse, i went to visit this iraqi refugee family and an infant that was dying. and there at the house, they absolutely had nothing. there was no refrigerator. there was no stove. there was no crib. the baby was in a laundry basket. i decided that this wasn't going to happen on my watch. how's your apprenticeship going? >> pretty good. >> nurses are supposed to fix things. we are healers. and this is just a place that heals the world. >> to see how nuja is providing basic needs, education, and hope
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to thousands every year, go to cnnheroes.com. thanks for watching. our coverage continues. good evening. the reviews are in after last night's democratic presidential debate, which was watched by millions on television. vice president biden says it is fair game for opponents to bring up his age, but he's also pushing back. and beto o'rourke is receiving not so veiled threats after he said, quote, yes, we're going to take your ar-15, your ak-47. we'll get to all that in a moment. we begin tonight with the sentencing of one of the most public people wrapped up in the sprawling college admissions scandal. the actress felicity huffman, familiar to television audiences of course for her role in the popular series desperate housewives, late this afternoon was sentenced to 14 days in federal prison. she'll serve a year of probation, pay a $30,000 fine, and serve 250 hours of community service. all this after she pled guilty to paying a college consultant to inflate her daughter's s.a.t. scores. she's the first to be

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