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help and feel better. so he went to his room and about 30 minutes later he came with his notebook where he had written el paso challenge on top. >> that challenge, do 22 good deeds to honor the people killed. >> i posted it online. >> it started going viral. everybody wanted to do it. >> thousands were touched and joined in. >> australia, we got a radio station in london. >> including these two el paso teachers. >> we were the one that started the el paso challenge. as of yesterday the hashtag had gotten over $10,000 donated, so i got a lot of books donated. >> we took on this challenge and we had over 550 stuffed animals donated. >> ruben hasn't stopped either. >> today i'm spreading kindness. >> from giving gift cards away at starbucks to making cookies for firefighters. this 6th grader wants to show
the ripple effect that even one good deed can have. >> everybody from all over the world should be kind. >> such an inspiring group. there you have them. if you want to learn more about the amazing kids you met tonight go to cnnheroes.com. we're thrilled this years young wonders will be joining us at the 13th annual heroes tribute this saeunday night. co-hosting with my friend kelly ripa, and it's going to be a very fun night and very inspiring. i hope you join us. thanks for watching. good night. this is scene of the crime. i'm don lemon. we have to give the trump white house an "a" for consistency. once again refusing to cooperate with the house impeachment investigation. tonight was the deadline for president trump to decide if he and his aids would play a role in the proceedings.
specifically the next house judiciary committee hearing. which is set for monday morning. in a sharply worded two paragraph letter sent this afternoon to judiciary chairman jerry nadler the white house counsel pat cipollone blasting the whole process saying your impeachment inquiry is completely baseless and has violated basic principles of due process and fundamental fairness. he went onto claim that adopting articles of impeachment would be a reckless abuse of power by house democrats and would constitute the most unjust highly partisan and unconstitutional attempt at impeachment. well, congressman jerry nadler responded immediately in a statement. and i quote here. "if the president has no good response to the allegations, then he would not want to appear before the committee. having declined this opportunity, he cannot claim that the process is unfair." and house intel chairman adam schiff saying, the white house
said they wanted open hearings, not closed, and then they didn't want those either. then they said they wanted to participate in the proceedings, and now they say they don't. all they really want is to hide the president's serious misconduct. it's not working. the house speaker nancy pelosi undaunted by the house said this. >> the facts are clear, the president violated the constitution. >> trump's legal team has an official chance to defend the president in the impeachment inquiry, and they're declining. yet the president says over and over -- >> they don't give us any -- any fair play. it's the most unfair situation people have seen. no lawyers, you can't have
lawyers. you can't speak. you can't do anything. the way they're doing it, they're taking away our rights. we literally have no rights on the other side. we have no right, we have no anything. and it's a very unfair situation. >> so refuse, stall, refuse, dodge, deny, confuse. it's not only the strategy of the white house, it's what republicans on capitol hill have been doing all along. so let's review the facts, okay? remember facts first because facts do matter. i know in this time it doesn't seem like they do, but they do. the rough transcript of president trump's now infamous july 25th phone call with ukraine's president shows trump clearly asking him to investigate joe biden and his son, hunter. yesterday my capitol hill colleague manu raju asked the house republican leader if it's ever appropriate for a president to ask a foreign country to investigate a political rival. that's a clear question.
the answer? not so much. >> and every single time of every witness that the democrats got to select and control, they were asked a question. the two best witnesses that they had that they started this all with, can you name one article that she should be impeached upon? no one could say a word. so why are we going through this nightmare? >> okay. that's both a dodge and it's confusing. manu tried it again. the best way to dodge a question is to just walk away. then there's republican jim jordan. you know the congressman who doesn't wear a jacket to hearings? well, doesn't wear a jacket pretty much most of the time. loves to shout at and berate witnesses. he asked him directly was it
proper to use rudy giuliani his personal attorney to pressure ukraine to investigate the bidens. here's jordan's answer. >> look, there was a new guy elected. the president has for the longest time talked about his concern about foreign aid, his concern about corruption in ukraine. >> president trump should be concerned about distributing u.s. foreign aid money. it is part of his job. and he should be childrened if there's corruption in ukraine. but jordan didn't answer the question. if it was right for the president to use giuliani in a grand scheme to get a domestic political rival. he dodged it although he didn't yell out his answer that time. so let's move on now to a congressman who's a nevada republican and tried to turn the tables on manu's question. take a look at this one. >> the white house transcript that was released had president trump asking president zelensky to open investigations into
biden. >> do you know if they even got calls to call the whistle-blower because i heard they didn't. >> you're not answering my question. >> i disagree with your conclusion. it's a conclusion, not a question. my english teacher says you've got to conclude, so if you want to interview yourself, go ahead. >> why don't you want to answer the question? is it okay for the president to ask a foreign country to investigate the bidens? >> why are we doing an interview -- >> on the south lawn of the white house the president asked china to investigate the bidens. is that okay? >> you know what, if you don't want to interview me, interview yourself. >> i'm asking you a question. >> i don't understand. >> you don't understand? >> yeah. >> okay. >> thanks for doing the best you can. >> clearly you don't have an answer but you do. dodge, reflect, dodge, ask a question, walk away. by the way, bringing in the whistle-blower is a non-issue. calling manu raju's question a conclusion, that's absurd and
it's insulting. his non-answer answer was embarrassing to him and a disservice to the american public. not only did he dodge a legitimate question and refuse to answer it, he deliberately confused and misled on a very serious issue that may constitute president trump abusing his power. one of the probable articles of impeachment congress is likely to vote on in the next two weeks. and we know the president is preoccupied with the impeachment proceedings, and he should be. maybe that's why he went off on a tangent today at the white house with small business leaders about deregulation, acting more like the plumber in chief. >> we have a situation where we're looking very strongly at sinks and showers and other elements of bathrooms where you turn the faucet on and areas where there's tremendous amounts
of water, where the water rushes out to sea because you could never handle it and you turn on the faucet and you don't get any water. they take a shower and the water comes dripping out. it's dripping out, very quietly dripping out. people are flushing toilets 10 times, 15 times as opposed to once. they end up using more water. so epa is looking at that very strongly at my suggestion. you go into a new house or new home and you can't get water. you can't wash your hands practically so little water comes out of the faucet. and the end result you leave the faucet on and you end up using the same amount of water. we're looking very seriously at opening up the standard and there may be some areas we'll go the other route, desert areas. but for the most part you have
many states that has so much water. it's called rain and they don't know what to do with it. we're looking at changing the standards very soon. >> do you know what he's talking about? do you? do you have any idea? whoo! we needed that but we didn't need that after this week, right? not clear what standards he's talking about or when they might be changing. didn't stop at water, though. >> the light bulb, they got rid of the light bulb that people got used to. the new bulb is many times more expensive. and i hate to say it, it doesn't make you look as good or as -- being a vain person, that's very important to me. it gives you an orange look. i don't want an orange look.
has anyone noticed? >> you should watch anderson's ridiculist tonight. he explains the whole orange look. probably not the light bulb. maybe it's the bronzer. i'm just saying. his make-up, could be a tanning booth. i don't know it's something. anderson explains it. go check it out. i'm sure it's online. or the rebroadcast will be on there. it's probably good the president is having a few laughs. it's nice to see a little self-dep self-depicating humor. but the truth is what the nation is facing no laughing matter. and there is some breaking news tonight we have to report as the white house firmly refuses to have any part in the proceedings. lots to discuss. people here i'm talking to earlier asking them if they had any idea what the president was
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this holiday season, help your family discover theirs. here the breaking news tonight as the impeachment investigation draws ever closer to probable articles of impeachment against president trump. the trump ukraine impeachment inquiry report as it is known has been officially sent to the house judiciary committee. it's official now. sent to the committee. i want to bring in now my panel. good evening, everyone, on this friday evening. katherine, i'll start with you. the white house is not going to participate in this impeachment proceedings. despite the complaining that this is hasn't been fair. looking at the letter sent to pat cipollone. the counsel to the president. game plan all along, anybody shocked? >> obviously not. >> first the white house said
they demanded the transcripts be released and it was released. >> they demanded there be open hearings. they demanded there was an impeachment vote, then there was an impeachment vote. and they demanded trump and his lawyers get to participate in this impeachment process and then can't take yes for an answer as one of my colleagues put it. in case you were wondering whether any of this was conducted in good faith, obviously the answer is no. >> i'm wondering is this what you do when you don't have a good defense and you call the whole thing illegitimate. it says as you know the impeachment inquiry is completely baseless and violated the basic principles of due process, fundamental fairness. it says house democrats have wasted enough of america's time with this charade. i'm sure they said charade. but basically that's what they're saying, guy. the president's counsel on monday could have asked questions, raised objections,
raised a witness. >> that is exactly what you do when you don't have a good defense. and they don't have a good dchs because the president himself in the transcript from the 25th showed that bribery was right there. but what's going to happen, this is part of the distortion and the distraction that has been there all along. you ran the tapes a little while ago of the republican house members not answering the questions. well, that's exactly what's going to happen until it gets to the senate. and the second ranking republican senator of texas said just yesterday we don't want a three-ring circus in the senate. and on a calm day the senate looks down on the house anyway. with all these antics that are going on in the senate, in the house when it gets to the senate
it's going to be solemn, written for the history books and the whole dynamic is going to change. and all this business, we're going to invite all these thugs from ukraine to be witnesses. it's not going to happen. >> so why do you think -- why doesn't it explicitly say they're not going to participate? it just says it should be called off, it's a charade, it's a sham. those are the buzz words they're using. >> because they want to leave it open and fox news won't make the distinction you just did. >> i'm sorry? that's a good point. listen, the president tweeted this out. it says nadler hasn't had a single fact witness testify, zero substance. judiciary has only had one hearing, and is the president forgetting that he blocked his closest aides from testifying? you're saying he hasn't had one fact witness. he blocked everybody.
>> look, this is strategy. you say, okay, you're not doing this fairly, people aren't testifying and let these people testify. no, no, we can't have that. as everyone here has noted this is about obstruction. this is about muddying the waters and confusing people, because there isn't a great defense. the facts really aren't in dispute at this point. and what they're doing here is distracting. and they're doing it pretty well. the numbers are going not in a great direction. the support for this isn't high in some areas, so it does seem to be working to a degree. >> because, listen, in those hearings and on television, right, republicans are on point. they're on message. they're not fighting the substance. they're not even going anywhere near the substance. they're just saying this is sham, whatever. they're attacking the witnesses. they're staying on message. it appears to be working. >> and today you see in the
senate, senator grassly, senator graham, and ron johnson of wisconsin raising again this idea of ukrainian meddling. so they want to hear from this democratic consulted alexander who was looking into the manafort stuff. that's an effort to further muddy the waters and confuse. >> it's a conspiracy theory. and speaking of conspiracy theories, katherine, the judiciary committee hearing, the doj's inspector general report, it's expected that the fbi is going to say -- and again if the reporting is correct -- that the origins of the russia investigation, right, that it was launched properly. >> correct. >> there may have been some mistakes, right, human errors which shouldn't have happened but it was launched properly. if the reporting is correct, it's not going to be a good day for the president and for the conspiracy theorists who were hoping. >> no, i mean this ig was hand picked to basically promote the
conspiracy theory and it was in an effort essentially to distract from the very bad evidence that we've been talking about that the president was extorting a foreign ally into inventing a fake investigation into a domestic political rival. the problem is that the distraction doesn't hold up either. so i do wonder what are we going to see on monday, if in fact this reporting is correct? what are they going to do to distract us from the distraction? that's always the trump question. when it turns out that whatever it is he's ginned up to try to deflect and get the conversation going onto a subject matter that he thinks is not as damning for him but this one turns out to be damning for him, how is he going to up the ante? >> and you brought up the distraction is going to be what you just said.
they're still going to say -- >> ukraine meddled. it was the ukrainians, the democrats. it wasn't the russians. and why are we focusing on that? >> the senate looked into it and there was no evidence they did meddle but they're still saying that. guys, why is rudy giuliani in kiev? why is he in ukraine even as this is going on with photographs of him popping up of him trying to dig up dirt while articles of impeachment are being drawn up? >> i'm going to answer your question in russia. rudy giuliani is a -- that means a russian asset. or more charitably he's a -- which means a useful idiot. either way they're doing russia's bidding, and it's more a distraction as matt was saying. the distraction is going to just continue until we get to the
senate trial. then there will be real witnesses like bolton and pompeo and mulvaney, fact witnesses. and then there's going to be a real problem. >> this isn't really about rudy giuliani. this is about president trump. he's doing president trump's dirty work on the conspiracy theories and trying to come up with some excuse for him other than what's really happening right in the face of everyone as the impeachment is going on. he's doing exactly what nancy pelosi and the democrats are saying. >> i'm coming to the conclusion that trump may not be hiring the best people, you know? if this is his attorney, his other attorney is apparently signing legal documents with a sharpie and this guy is returning to the scene of the crime like a perp on law and order. >> got to run. >> even when andrew johnson -- his lawyers didn't do this or one of his articles impeachment was saying bad things about the congress. nikki haley under fire for
saying the battle flag came down from the south carolina statehouse because it was hijacked from the charleston church shooter. now some are accusing her of hijacking history. check your free credit scores at creditkarma. here's to progress. (danny)'s voice) of course you don'te because you didn't!? your job isn't doing hard work... ...it's making them do hard work...
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different pins to symbolize each of the victims. that's why haley's comments about the shooting have so many people upset. >> south carolina fell to her knees when this happened. this is one of the oldest african-american churches. these 12 people were amazing people. they loved their church, they loved their family, they loved their community. and here is this guy that comes out with this manifesto holding the confederate flag and had just hijacked everything that people thought of -- and we don't have hateful people in south carolina. there's always the small minority that's always going to be there, but people saw it as service and sacrifice and heritage. but once he did that, there was no way to overcome it. >> let's discuss now. abbey philip is here, carol finny, matt lewis as well. okay, abbey, nikki haley got
lots of praise -- i was there when this happened. she got lots of praise for her decision to take down that flag in 2015. now she says it represented sacrifice and heritage. what happened? >> yeah, i mean, don, i was there, too. i went down to south carolina after that massacre and interviewed nikki haley and did a profile about her and this decision. and i'll tell you, she understands what this issue is really about. she told me when we sat down that her -- her son had actually raised the issue of the confederate flag and its awful history to her. and asked her if it had ever been discussed this point to take it down. and she reminded him of back in 2000 when south carolina moved the confederate flag from atop the capitol dome in the south carolina statehouse to the place it eventually was in 2015 on the
statehouse grounds -- and that decision 15 years before dylan ruth was incredibly controversial. so listening to this what is surprising about this is not that nikki haley is repeating the viewpoint of white south carolinians some of whom may believe this is about heritage, but it's the complete absence of the viewpoint of black south carolinians who she knows views this flag as a flag of hate. it's the absence of what she did not say so striking and frankly to a lot of people disappointing to what she had to say. at one point nikki haley was viewed as the future of maybe of the republican party in the south and now it seems a lot different. >> it's a 180 what she had to say. and when you -- all you had to -- it just sounds like she wants to be president and she's trying to appeal to the trump base. that's exactly what it sounds like. you had a chance to interview
her. karen, i had to chance to speak to haley after the 2015 shooting. we spoke to her growing up in south carolina as the daughter of indian immigrants. watch this. >> does it mean more to you? does it make you more connected to this issue? >> we grew up an indian family in south carolina. my father wears a turbine, my father at the time wore a sari. what i worked towards is to make sure today is better than yesterday and that my kids don't go through what we went through. and now i feel good because now i know my kids can look up and there won't be a flag. and it'll be one less reason to divide. and it'll be more reasons for us to come together. >> okay. so she clearly knows the confederate symbolizes to what
n non-white southern communities today that is not service or sacrifice -- what she stated today in that interview, what is going on? is this invasion of the body snatchers? what happened? >> it is. what she just said on glen beck is shameful. and said that a as african-american and b as someone as a kessadescendant of robert e. lee. what she represents though is the full 1al 0 of the republican party who just decided and we saw it perfectly well on display during the impeachment hearings. they have taken leave of their senses. they have taken leefave of fact and truth and decided you know what we're all into trump, we are the party of trump. facts don't matter, truth doesn't matter. and what's so shameful about this, though, is there will be a
day when there's not a donald trump as president. the thing for nikki haley and a lot of these young members who will likely be around in let's say ten years we now have video of her saying one thing and then the other. and i promise you should she try to run for president, there will be plenty of people there to remind her she decided to fall in with a racist false narrative for i think in part one because she's trying to sell a book, and number two, she's decided to be a defender of the president because she thinks like many others that's the way to go now. >> okay, so matt, i want to bring you in here. listen, let me play another clip because i want to get your reaction. this is from the interview with beck about the media's role in the shooting. >> the national media came in droves. they wanted to define what happened. they wanted to make this about racism. they wanted to make it about gun control. they wanted to make it about the death penalty. and i really pushed off the national media and said there
will be a time and place where we talk about this, but it is not now. >> the media made his attack racist? >> i don't know why she went there other than it's fun and easy to attack the media. i mean, the media made dillan -- a white supremacist goes in and murders of concern americans at a church -- we got comments she made in 2015, right, in 2015 she talked about my father wore a turbin, my mother wore a sari, i can't look at my kids if we don't take the flag down. >> and they don't have to look at that flag, a symbol of hate -- >> and what does she say today? she basically says that the flag wasn't about hate until dylan ruth hijacked it, so what
changed between 2015 and 2019, obviously it's donald trump. and i think karen, you know, is pretty much right on in terms of where this goes. and i have to say there was a time in 2015 when i think nikki haley believed that you could get ahead in the republican party by being a compassionate conservative, that maybe she could win the presidency by bringing together diverse american said and soccer moms and everybody else behind her. and now i don't think she believes that anymore. i think she believes you have to be trumpy -- >> she was one of the few members of the trump administration to make it back out with her reputation intact. is she trying to get back in? >> except she's the one running back. it's a burning house and she's running into it. it's stunning. so she makes it through this amazing event in south carolina, this tragedy, this horrific shooting, actually comes out of
that looking great, looking like a leader, a unifier. survives that, and then she goes into the trump administration. you know, rick wilson says everything trump touches dies. i mean, the first two people who endorsed trump i believe were indicted or have left congress or are leaving congress. and yet nikki haley serves as ambassador to the u.n., gets out unscathed and keeps coming back in i guess as karen said a book and she wants to be president. >> yeah, don, just to -- you know, one of the interesting things also about nikki haley is that she when shifcharlottesvil happened, she made it a point to make it clear to the public she disagreed with the president and how he handled charlottesville. but what charlottesville was about was about the normalization of a false narrative that confederate symbols are about anything other than racism and slavery.
and essentially what she's doing in this interview is pandering to those very same people who have got into that false narrative. >> abbey, i want to get this -- i want to get this on before we run out of time. another clip with haley after the shooting and she sounded very different. watch this. >> a flag is living and breathing, and so it represents something. i think it should be in any museum setting. i think it should be at ft. sumter, in those places of historical settings. not those places that represents all people. if someone wants to travel to see it, that's one thing. but it shouldn't be in someone's face where they have to feel it. at museums if they want to have it, absolutely. that's where historical things should be. but present things, going in the future, that's different. >> i'm pressed for time, but to abbey's point, that was the point she was making.
what a difference 4 years makes. >> the confederate flag and symbols of confederacy were also symbols of oppression. those were symbols erected when white america was trying to say to black america we're going to get you. for her to be so disingenuous and that 180 is really an example of what has happened to the republican party. >> so many people in the republican party. it is really unbelievable to watch. investigators digging into the motive of a deadly shooting at a naval air station in pensacola carried out by a saudi military pilot in training. why it's putting the president's relationship with saudi arabia in the spotlight. that's next. won't. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair's derm-proven retinol works so fast, it takes only one week to reveal younger looking skin. neutrogena®
breaking news in the shooting attack at the naval air station in pensacola, florida. the fbi says there's an active and ongoing investigation to determine why a saudi military trainee opened fire at the base killing three people, wounding at least eight others. let's discuss now. thank you so much for joining us. terrible story. james, the fbi has agents working on this in the u.s. and saudi arabia as well. what are they doing to determine whether this is terror related because we don't know at this point. >> don, i watched the press conference earlier this evening, the fbi press conference and i was struck by a couple of things. number one i know rachel rojas, the special agent in charge of the jackson office covering this. she gave the press conference. yes, she was visibly distraught, so i imagine being in the crime scene and seeing the carnage
this morning visibly affected her. what i was also struck by was really the close hold information the fbi is holding on a couple of things. they're not willing to release the name yet. i know the name is out in the public sphere. and they're not ready to call this an act of terror yet. you assume taylorer in instances like this and you work backwards but it has to meet the threshold. it has to be an act of violence and intimidation in furtherance of some political goal. they're not prepared yet to say that's what it is. >> the biggest question you have about the shooting tonight. >> where james is which is motivation. so he enters the country two years ago, and basically the way it works is when these military officials are invited in they are vetted by the department of defense for drug use, criminal behavior or any nexus to terrorism. once in, however, they are
considered fine. and then you have him here for two years. on and off he probably went back to saudi arabia for some periods. two years is a long for lots of things to happen. he may have known people, he wanted to go after people. so the fbi's caution in this case makes a lot of sense to me because, you know, it wasn't like he just came over, maybe had been doing something with saudi arabia to plan something. two years is a long time. so i'm also waiting to determine sort of where the fbi is going to go with this. the investigation will take place likely in two different countries, but we may found out it ends up having to do a lot with his experience here rather than something we might relate to back to saudi arabia. >> james, how closely do they follow them? do they track and check up on them while they're here? >> not really. don, i went to west point with saudi exchange cadets. i went through the basic course with saudi officers. i attended a number of different
military training exercises with saudi sailors and folks from their naval brigade. when you say check up on, they're treated the same way. these are fraternal exchanges between countries that are either allies of ours or we have a friendly relationship. i don't know how much continued background checks. >> they don't check in on folks and say how are you doing, are you acclimating? >> once they're cleared and it's determined they can safely a be in the country and "b" you're going to be in training scenarios where you're using weapons and live munitions. if you're going to trust someone to do that i don't know if they continue to run background checks on them where they maintain contact with -- you're hosting them with the country of origin. i don't know. >> the president spoke to king solomon of saudi arabia today
about the shooting. this is how he described their conversation. >> the king said that the saudi people are greatly angered by the barbaric actions of the shooter, and that this person in no way, shape or form reps the feelings of the saudi people who loves this government so much. >> if he was from any other country do you think the president would have the same tone? >> no, just think about an undocumented immigrant that killed someone here. so it was a very complementary phone call or description of the phone call. the guy who killed at the base today doesn't represent the saudis anymore than a mexican who represents who might have done something similar would represent mexico. why does this matter is a couple of issues. why is the president so ready to compliment saudi arabia before there's an investigation? we don't know yet.
he was a government official. he was paid for by the government. secondly, we have a number cases here in saudi arabia -- people are forgetting this -- in which the saudis have basically taken people accused of rape and other things. >> thank you both. i appreciate it. we'll be right back. - 10 years ago, we started legacybox. if you're like us, you have a box of old video tapes, film reels, and photos, just degrading away in your closet. - [nick] legacybox saves these memories by professionally digitizing them on dvd, thumb drive, or the cloud.
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